Can Quest Druid Compete in the Value Game? | Saviors of Uldum | Hearthstone

Shaman might be the value king right now but Druid isn't far behind, right?
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[@yotamshitrit6820]

Glad Blizzard fixed Dr Boom's infinite value by *checks note* Making other classes having even more value

[@GhostOfAmsterdam69]

Yotam Shitrit i mean I think that’s a very good solution. Making more classes have viable control and midrange decks does make the meta a lot more varied

[@olivervarga4026]

Especially because they get value buy building their deck around a quest. Dr boom you just jam in any warrior deck

[@shards7992]

Infinite value is poor game design since it makes all limited value options worthless. Meaning rather than a healthy spectrum from full aggro on one end to full control (like a bell curve) you have 1-4ultra high control decks and 1-4 very agressive decks. Or worse still you have no aggro decks because the value is so cheap to add that it costs almost no tempo. In order to have a healthy range of decks value MUST be finite.

[@duelponzac]

@@shards7992 Also, you lose the value management game. Because you have no end to value generation, you dont need to think how to spend your finite resources, you just mindlessly generate X and consume X constantly.

[@FormerRuling]

In my limited maybe 12 games against Quest Druid as Control Warrior I've never even come close to losing - the druid just doesnt generate enough value. Trumps game 1 here not changing that since the opponent was running Bomb warrior and the bomb package takes warrior from top of tier1 to mid-tier3. That guy probably thought he'd see singleton decks all day.

[@DarkSnideoftheRainbow]

When you're playing any other class and you queue up against a shaman *_Now this is an Avengers level threat_*

[@stefanbroers8146]

but how about murloc paladin

[@feritperliare2890]

Allwn0 that movie was terrible and so are you

[@lambchop58]

@@feritperliare2890 No u

[@yaycob22]

Sees 'druid' and 'value' in the title. *_Ah shit here we go again_*

[@giuseppemessina7745]

Rogue:I want an aoe spell Blizzard:you already have an aoe spell at home Aoe spell at home:blade flurry

[@Mustard0981]

With the quest blade flurry is actually decent

[@thenamelessgod2308]

@@Mustard0981 ohhhh, I hadn't even thought of that, I'll definitly try that in my quest rogue (muggin' bitches). Thx ^^

[@oniuserjh]

@@Mustard0981 Are u saying this is the Fabled card that blade flurry died for ?:O

[@DfRaid]

Fan of Knives: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@willhunnisett6139]

@@DfRaid 1 damage aoe lel

[@firesoy]

I've never seen him having so much fun, he looks so happy

[@Crabgar]

he's so passive aggressive

[@liorcohen436]

Yes every expansion Trump is happy like a kid having his first Fortnite game.

[@brettpierce5225]

Edger Stomm That’s part of his charm, he’s snarky.

[@blasvillanueva7195]

“Now I’m the Druid so I think Druid is favored” lol

[@weebvile7965]

Here before someone makes a "Shaman's weakness is card generation" joke.

[@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN]

Weebvile ** what

[@takuseklive111]

@@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN shaman had problems with card generation. Now shaman still has card generation problem. Because you can't successfully generate 2 cards if you already have 10 cards in hand.

[@videogamer678]

I mean it is a weakness if you take just the Classic set into account. Most of the tools they got this expansion don't generate cards, they use quest to double up on neutral battlecries. So their cards don't generate a lot of cards, but abusing battlecries does.

[@Kirby950]

A Rock Formation *stares in coin evil totem on turn one*

[@derekdunbar4694]

@@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN Recently Blizzard made a big deal about cementing class identity and how important it is to the game. As part of that, they stated that Shaman's weaknesses were card draw and card generation. Then they turn around and give Shaman the most card generation Hearthstone has ever seen. Both Hagathas, the Quest, Lackeys, Menacing Nimbus, etc. It's become a meme to say that Shaman has "an issue with card generation" because their hand is too full of generated cards already.

[@defrte]

23:00 and here we see, the last gasp of this piano channel

[@Jebu911]

I just wanted him to get it right and stopped caring about the game

[@Horstiboy2000]

Jens, please make something out of the "oooh"!

[@ciao_shibe1517]

And I oooh

[@jimunderwood77]

Went 12-2 in the Tavern Brawl this week using this deck. Both losses were murloc paladin with strong early game

[@TheZackofSpades]

I’ve been keeping one Druid of the Claw in this package for the burst, it adds up with buffs to seal out games. I also don’t have Keeper and don’t want to craft it so...the spot was open.

[@stevesallai]

Seal out? Wut

[@ezatom7547]

Blitzapfel finish games

[@theprogressivecynic2407]

Add in vargoth. If you can stick him on turn 5 (which is easy if you run two Doomsayers to control the board early), you can play nourish after completing the quest on turn 6, drawing 6 cards, gaining 4 mana, and ramping to 10. Alternately, you can play him with your healing spell to gain two 6/6s or your swipe to AoE.

[@NewWesternFront]

^ you are assuming I'm not F2P and didn't dust vargoths crusty ass asap

[@lambchop58]

@@NewWesternFront that's sad and hilarious ...lol

[@Jukantos]

The solution to guaranteeing yourself a value game win with this deck is to add a three card package: Zephrys, Elise and Elysiana. The goal is to use these once your deck has been nearly burnt out to give yourself TWO zephryss, TWO floops and TWO elysianas for deck refills. I even chugged in a body wrapper for giggles to produce extra elises and the value is INSANE. Noone expects you to drop a Zephrys when your deck contained like 9 duplicates and the Elise -> Zephrys -> Frost Nova -> Zephrys -> Twisting Nether Combo is always satisfying as all heck to pull off.

[@will1603]

Someone did the Elise zephrys combo against me today. Tbf I think they'd have won regardless cus I couldnt keep up with the tempo anynore

[@tamerlane2951]

Or just cut zephrys and elysiana for Nomi. Has worked really well for me at 4+ rank. But losing to a warrior who managed to clear 4 chef Nomi boards tilted me pretty hard.

[@GeddysGaming]

*Sniff* I Smell Gross Amount of Value

[@leozaboudi8005]

Just otk them with pounce, floop's gloop, floop himself, elise and bees.

[@oniuserjh]

@@tamerlane2951 tilting players with ass pull levels of removal.... you know...just control warrior things

[@SacredBlazeXxX]

20:53 T H E S A R C A S M A N

[@i8dacookies890]

11:42 You make it sound like Yugio.

[@alvarolopez8514]

Blizzard: How much value druid should have? Also Blizzard: Yes

[@justinz9225]

Not sure you understand how that meme works. I'm gonna go ahead and take it from you if you can't learn to use it properly.

[@StraeuselbaerLP]

9:01 How can he has -5k Gold on his blizzard account?

[@Zero_Shift]

Hauptschul Englisch aside, if you buy packs with real money and refund the purchase blizzard will end up giving you the money back but since they can't fix the packs they opened they instead just charge you ingame gold for each packs. TLDR: He opened packs until he had 0 gold, bought 50 packs with real money, then took the money back. Hence -5k.

[@duelponzac]

"rogues doesnt have mass aoe" except when they steal from their friends from the other side XD.

[@alexhladio794]

I'm gonna leave a comment everytime I hear that beautiful Bughici. Currently on #2. Keep it up big man 😈😈😈

[@meh3277]

"will the world bow down to quest shaman" Me, who has been beaten by quest druid 4 times in a row (as quest shaman): No, I don't think I will

[@MrSabotax]

I play only quest shaman and it's same for me, quest druid is the only class that constantly beats me, it's too many waves of too big minions to efficiently clear

[@arthena2130]

@@MrSabotax Ithink it will be shaman vs aggro then druid vs shaman and aggro vs druid. Unless no top tier aggro decks comes, since then it's back to druid stone.

[@NoPickles312]

Wait, How did they defeat you? By throwing tokens (whispering woods etc) and infinite buffs? Asking for a friend

[@MrSabotax]

@@NoPickles312 quest druid doing druid things on curve has more tempo than quest shaman

[@NoPickles312]

@@MrSabotax yeah, but shaman has more comeback mechanic, more board clears, and hagatha alone can win the game easly, combine her with shudderwock, blooddyy helll,

[@NeahSheMaeve]

get pounce, elise, floop and the other floop and bees. go infinite pounce just for endgame purposes. allows u to add lots of card draw too. no need to be singleton since u draw out your deck in no time

[@Daniel-ex2qs]

9:01 why do you have negative gold?

[@theronerdithas2944]

Value?

[@billicatato-9441]

Debt from his cocaine addiction

[@Erasmus1980]

He pre ordered the 80 pack bundle. But he didn't know Blizzard gifted him a 80 pack bundle as well. So he wanted a refund for his own pre order. It took some time before his money was refunded by Blizzard and in that time he opened his bundles at a fireside gathering. So Blizzard took 8000 gold, obviously he didn't had 8000 gold and that's why he's in debt with Blizzard.

[@Noobie2k7]

@@Erasmus1980 So basically Trump got a refund on a product he then proceeded to cash out anyway. Oh dear, those Streamer problems eh, being able to get gifted the 80 bundle for free by Blizzard, getting a refund for his purchase then all Blizzard did was take 8000 gold out of his account. Which he didn't even have. Wish i was allowed to pay for an 80 card bundle with gold i don't have on my account too.

[@Elsier1]

He used one of those free gold hacks that require human verification

[@caio8470]

"oooh"- Merchant, Crystal, 2019

[@krauser3806]

24:56 what you came for.

[@partyxday]

Misplay at 6:58 because with Loti thered be nearly no way to kill a stealthed minion

[@varasatoshi3961]

BEES!!! is actually insanely OP. Imagine you have a high attack lifesteal minion. Hit the enemy first for say 6 damage, gain 6 health. Then hit it with bees and just gain 24 more health. Now you're up 30 health for 4 mana.

[@asasdsaasda]

got druid/warlock/rogue quest and 7k dust, I would like to invest in a deck for this expansion (rogue deck is already finished so I don't need to craft anything and I would like to use it as my 'alt') which quest you feel its a good investment while I grind my gold for next expansion?

[@Franziskaner11]

on 9:00 you can see that trump has a negative gold value in the menu (red number). can someone explain that to me?

[@lilcow8948]

So... when is the first quest warrior video coming out?

[@LaserfaceJones]

Nothing beats Khadgar's "MARVELOUS!".

[@ppppppqqqppp]

I think worthy expedition is a bit like bait in the early game. Yeah, it's a 1 drop that you can weave in while trying to float mana, but, you are far more likely to take a less impactful card if you play it in the early turns.

[@Solemhs]

here to make the "Shaman's weakness is card generation" joke.

[@simpletora7313]

Show I constantly read the quest as your next battle cry this turn is doubled so never got why it was considered good. Now I see why

[@lordvecna8837]

Hm. Seems like a good deck to try the quest that I opened in the 2nd pack I got. Feels good man.

[@zeelas02]

I got Octosari, Amet and the hunter quest...feelsbadman

[@lordvecna8837]

@@zeelas02 My free quest was hunter. I feel your pain.

[@renxiangyak]

How about colossus of the moon and hunter bran

[@danielsnodgrass1045]

Lord Vecna this deck is very good. The only time you lose really is against agro decks who get lucky card draw

[@jackkennedy1931]

I got a golden copy in my 10th pack I had pretty much my best pack opening ever had 70 packs got 6 legendaries

[@Mattaruu95]

If only Trump's piano skills could be used on the Toes

[@sirshysenpai4497]

How come at the right from of 9:01 you have negative 5,790 gold? Is that a bug?

[@enzimochi]

can you make a simpleton version? ive tried it and its not that bad got to 15 but priest demolishes the deck

[@ninehills42]

Piano Trump is back!

[@b-ri1338]

So glad I got that quest golden! It looks great with my golden Druid

[@NeroEB]

Run Mulchmuncher in this deck with splintergraft. Summoning 3 8/8 for 8-10 mana with 2 of them having rush. VALUE! I found doing this allowed me to also play some minions during my first 4-5 turns of the quest so I don't fall too far behind. This is done by adding 2 copies of landscaping into this deck. Thank me later :) Cards to add: 2 landscaping, splintergraft, 1 or 2 mulchmuncher. Find 4 cards you can live without and it makes quest druid 1000000x better.

[@Dynelegacy]

do you really need 2 nourish? i feel like you could play splinterbark to copy oasis surger or defender. both are excellent targets.

[@BK-ku1zt]

nourish is 4 mana draw 3 post quest, not even counting the mana ramp if you play it before turn 10. That card draw isn't tempo of course but it basically adds fuel for another turn by itself and is better for steamrolling people which is what this deck tends to do.

[@triceratops1260]

you can play the new 10 mana legendary 5/5 that summons a minion for each spell in your hand, and if you have floop in hand you can play it twice, its pretty good

[@mahdiishaque7845]

It's unnecessary in this deck and only made your match up against aggro even worst

[@shmillsyshmillsy6624]

Mahdi Ishaque but it’s funny

[@willsheridan270]

If I had the dust for one legendary besides the quest, do I craft loti, cenarius, or stalladris?

[@juniorfan7a]

Exactly the question im asking myself Bro maybe loti

[@josephward4918]

Wait a week or two and see which cards are still good. If you absolutely must craft something this instant, don't craft something for this decklist - craft Siamat instead, he fits into a wide variety of decks.

[@NoisyGaunt]

Yea wait a little while, but Cenarius is the best of the 3 for most games. Loti can be replaced by druid of the scythe and stalladris is on the greedier side of the deck

[@juniorfan7a]

@@josephward4918 craft only siamat and zephrys those are guaranteed play in any scenario

[@willsheridan270]

Joseph Ward Luckily I already opened siamat 👌

[@tankbuster1564]

Little does he know that murloc paladin is the real villain here. It is coming to rule us all

[@C1umsyJester]

I ran the quest in highlander Druid, and didn’t drop a game for 8 ranks

[@nickgrim916]

You should bring f2p back and try to hit legend

[@user-zy6gn8vz2x]

Sadly, but you cannot do this now

[@megalul4141]

Василий Драгунов no u can with murloc pally

[@erikkihlman7488]

Hearthstone circeljerk approves

[@MegaJojo512]

I agree, really enjoyed that f2p run

[@projectx5154]

@@user-zy6gn8vz2x you can hit legend with no legendaries murloc shaman easily

[@Wyr3d]

Not worth having Keeper Stallandris in as it won't stack with the quest ( It did in this video - dated 7th Aug - but it wasn't working earlier today - 17 Aug - so maybe this got nerfed?). I mean, sure you _could_ drop it first, and get some extra cards, but you'd just be limiting yourself with what you have left - and really you want the quest by turn 3 (yes, it's worth using the coin just to proc it) or 4.

[@handylper444]

9:01 why u have -5790 Gold?

[@Zomgnomnom1]

Trump-"Feast your eyes on 5 mana, 10/10" Hunters during Kobolds and Catacombs-"laughs in 5 mana 12/12"

[@teemothetroll9855]

At 9:00 you have negative gold, how did you manage that

[@danielhakimi]

I don't know if I'd actually call this a value deck. It's just a midrange deck with a crazy power spike. But if I can survive until turn... like, 18, this deck kind of just stops, right? As opposed to battlecry shamans and deathrattle rogues, which basically can't find an end to their card gen / similar shenanigans.

[@adrianling3524]

14:56 I would love to see something like this)

[@napho5451]

What decktracker is he using

[@Cookiedible]

Solid shame concede at 21:14

[@rolandbartok4564]

Btw when quest shaman used the Bl that was lethal... 5x4dmg+5 and u were on 24 hp

[@whiteman9513]

whem you put a video that focuses on only one deck have u tought of putting the deck code below in the videon information? just a small tidbit for those that dont have schedule to whatch u stream live.

[@dragonlogos1]

Fábio Garcia it is usually there on trumps videos. it’s there now as well (at least I assume that it is the right one)

[@crock_gfx8644]

9:01 why is his gold red?

[@Lightn0x]

Why the bees in this deck though? There is no synergy with it, so it's just a shadow bolt. Is shadow bolt really good enough in 2019?

[@idontknowlikemum2225]

It is very good at dealing with early pressure. Both board presence and removal

[@firstnamelastname3547]

That way he describes collider.

[@feelingveryattackedrn5750]

Trump saying "ooOOoh" alongside the merchants is making me weak

[@rwt5713]

Mr.Ropey strikes again

[@Tantemify]

this deck needs 1 savage roar

[@FrevTM]

In my opinion druids hero power should cost 2 and trigger only in exact turn like with shamans battecries, i never won with quest shaman against druid yet..

[@Julian-sz1vh]

MOMMY! Please help, my quest shaman actually loses against deck pls NERF NERF NERF!

[@FrevTM]

Face Artist ive got destroyed

[@JayJayK-zy6ct]

@@Julian-sz1vh I havent seen a quest druid lose though

[@danielsnodgrass1045]

JayJayK2000 I loose against Murloc decks turn 5 but other than that this deck is unstoppable

[@grantmiller7257]

@@JayJayK-zy6ct I've seen several. Payout isn't that great if you realize it's just token Druid that starts on turn 6.

[@miguelmartinvivar6489]

With the otk malygos u got a difference on quest shaman with still room 4 value, i think thats the point on quest druid u take it over shaman

[@yubee3882]

9:01 new mechanic to go in debt with ur gold or what?

[@CapitanBarbaschiuma]

if u really want a value druid i think its best to make it singleton and spam zephyrs with elize and floop

[@brettroper1031]

What hero is that?

[@demonkeyy]

isnt the perfect curve with this deck Turn 1: Worthy expeditions Turn 2: Quest Turn 3: Crystal Merchant Turn 4: ...something for 3 mana Turn 5: Garden gnome then quest is complete and you`ve possibly still got the coin for later plays?

[@joaquinelias7092]

Demonkey Playing expedition turn 1 gives you a card. Playing it turn 9 might give you the perfect play to a board. And empty coin turn one seems random, but completing the quest on turn 4 is quite strong if you have the broken 5 drop to recover half the tempo you lost. Turn 4 best play is probably bees. Still, time will tell.

[@joshreddy4359]

I played a variant of this deck last night and hit rank 15! Yeah i suck, but i’m sucking a bit less now

[@kenac88]

The shaman missed lethal on you.

[@Stryder467]

What is the outro song? I need it in my life.

[@ITSMANATIME]

Saviors of Uldum trailer.

[@blasvillanueva7195]

23:53 “wait really?!?”

[@signmeupplz]

"I think the answer is depends"

[@MadcookieBG]

When i saw -5790 gold at 09:00 I now consider myself rich with my 210 gold

[@lancelee338]

How did activated omega devastator look like a bad card

[@Sticklesticks]

Trump when you gonna do a piano performance again? 😁

[@longohoang1093]

Druid quest everywhere

[@Kicher1985]

You would've lost almost every occasion of speedchess :p

[@jodyrappin]

I got the hunter quest and the 10 mana reborn card as my legendaries, feels bad man.

[@0wll]

I've found the quest priest.....feels bad man

[@penguindp4379]

I got Pally quest and opened Warlock quest.

[@shmillsyshmillsy6624]

Penguin DP i got warlock quest and then opened golden warlock quest lol

[@penguindp4379]

@@shmillsyshmillsy6624 You can still open duplicate legendaries?

[@shmillsyshmillsy6624]

@@penguindp4379 yeah I did

[@ExFragMaster]

I see a lot of nerfs coming at us!

[@puue0280]

Nobody: Trump: Am I a raid boss?

[@NewWesternFront]

Stfu

[@swforel4607]

9:01 look at his gold its in the negative wtf

[@ITSMANATIME]

Small indie dev Blizzard

[@Junebug89]

Take a shot every time Trump says "value"

[@Torvar]

The Druid quest reward, at 10 mana, is basically: spend 2 mana, gain 8 mana, draw a card each time you play a battlecry minion.

[@thesporehero]

DRUIDSTONE: REVENGEANCE

[@Kingis_Fire]

Dr Boom n'est plus aussi imbattable, c'est sympa. ^^ (Ou la personne d'en face n'a pas eu de chance)

[@arifridwanabriyanto9286]

even I put baleful banker in my quest druid just to got more value. Any card is fiiine..

[@davidtrubka2279]

3:50 ? Why swipe? Why u didn't play that gardener? :D

[@jacobharris4207]

He didn't want to overextend against control warrior, which has a lot of AoE removal in the form of brawl and warpath. This is proven to be correct the next turn, in which the warrior removes the entirety of Trump's board. If he had played the gardener, he would have essentially burned a card and 4 mana. He played swipe because he didn't need the AoE against a control deck, making the single target damage of the card more important. Additionally, he did not want to waste any mana in a value matchup.

[@chrisw1672]

Singleton quest Druid.. the best

[@MissAshley42]

Trump sure knows his way around a set of toes.

[@BuzzaB77]

I don't think Oasis surger should have rush, then again most quest stuff in this expansion seems OP so we're basically back to deathknights era where if you're not playing quests you're dead. when your ruining a dr.boom pulled on 7 you know somethings wrong.

[@chrispedersen9955]

Wait how is it possible for him to have negative gold? 9:01

[@jackkennedy1931]

He got charged by blizzard when he got a refund since they couldn't take packs of his account

[@partyxday]

I'm dying I've never seen Trump shittalking ppl so bad it's savage

[@Benjiman20]

wait a minute this deck only contains druid cards??

[@dafire9634]

yes 30 druid card

[@matminecraft01]

ive been playing against quest druids all day and the real issue is that they seem to think that they need to get the quest out and do dumb shit like just using shapeshift and end up losing as i have a full deck as they lack decent removal try to save for 'big value' quest druid is okay but it needs to have a lot bigger of an early game and probably drop quest around turn 4 3 if it can be managed and keep plenty of removal and hope the oasis and other big cards will see a win.

[@charredsoul4383]

Replacement for Loti?

[@josephward4918]

Druid of the Scythe does some of the same things, like being good turn 4 removal.

[@tamroberts7303]

Wow quest druid is broken AF. Have to literally do nothing do get the quest and then it basically is adventure league end boss power.

[@afrobro1672]

Got from rank 15- rank 5 yesterday playing quest Druid. Your build isn’t very good but with mine I beat quest shaman like 80% of games. I do lose around 45% of my games against warrior. I win like. I win 70% of rogue games. I lose 70% hunters and 45% warlock. I win like 80% of mage games and 85% priest games. Haven’t faced enough paladins to say anything bout them.

[@GaminFlash]

What do you run instead of garden gnome and the likes? Trying to build a good quest Druid and just need some pointer

[@afrobro1672]

GaminFlash I run garden gnome it’s 2 good not 2 run

[@sora8711]

My freebie quest was the druid quest, how viable would making this deck be without Floop/Stelladris/Loti? Not very, I'd imagine?

[@themagicman120]

i run it without stelladris and loti, they're good but not necessary. floop is a bit more so, getting an extra surger or cenarius can win games.

[@danielgil3615]

Probably can't build the strongest possible version but I'd imagine you can get legend without them

[@Adelun]

First things first... don't craft Cards early on in an expansion if you're tight on dust/gold the meta shifts so much, it's hard to say what's good and what isn't. Besides that, the deck should still work even without the Legendaries. I've seen a lot of decks not running Stelladris and I even consider cutting him myself. You often don't need the extra value so playing something that could end the game faster would be better. Floop is great and worth crafting for pretty much every druid deck, but not needed to make this one work. And Loti is just very solid but again, not a must-have for the deck. Play druid of the scythe and a second swipe or maybe even a Sunreaver Warmage. Hope I could help! :)

[@sora8711]

Yeah, that's why I figured I'd ask if any are a "must have" before outright crafting right away, the only time I've actually crafted something after opening my packs was Dr Boom for warrior, because as soon as I saw him I knew he'd be an insane card.

[@danielsnodgrass1045]

I think stelladris doesn’t create enough value so I don’t run it. Lori does help with necessary board clear whether it be damage buff or singe removal; and it creates a priority target for the opponent so for 3 mana the value is amazing. Floop is a must

[@Dragonkai93]

Nerf incoming in 3, 2, 1,... now is 5 turns!!

[@andrew-f8x]

No vargoth?