TRX4M & SCX24 Broncos //Let's Compare, Complain & Compete with these two Titans of mini RC's//

[@Hutch_Davenport]

1/18 is just big enough to have fun outdoors. The 1/24 is just so small and cute... that's what she said 🤣🤣🤣

[@kylehawes4287]

Traxxas is dope mini way better than everyone i have both Trx4m mini so so good 👍👍👍👍👍

[@andrewrichey7374]

Love the little course you got going on super cool Dustin 👍👍😎

[@UpperLeftRC]

Thanks 👍

[@lgrc6120]

That's what she said...😎 You do care it's why you mentioned it Great comparison vid!

[@UpperLeftRC]

Thanks bud 😄👍🏻

[@jamesford6974]

Thanks for sharing. This video helped me decide on the Traxxas.

[@nhmtrhd]

I was made aware of the binding from another tuber. When I got mine I confirmed it did bind. Initially thought it was going to be an axle joint issue. I found that its only the tire rubbing on the tierod. I will change the wheels but for now a .40” to .50” spacer on the hex cures the binding in the front at full steering lock!

[@rcjoe406]

Got a blue bronco luv it sooo smooth and quite

[@UpperLeftRC]

Heck yeah!!

[@chadriddle3517]

Love this video! I’d say for the $ in both the way they are I choose the traxxas ! I just bought one today and they are great out of the box

[@UpperLeftRC]

Right on bud! You’ll have a ton of fun with it 😄👍🏻

[@lowlight8466]

I have always had good luck with traxxas products. I personally own, a summit, slash 2wd oba, slash 4x4, Teton, rally, trx4 bronco, T Maxx, sledge, and a trx4m bronco on order. I have had zero manufacturing issues with any of my traxxas. I can't say the same with my driving. LOL! GREAT VIDEO KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!

[@frankyboi45]

Ive had a similar experience, noticed your comment and instantly thought of ESC complains ive seen by bulk... not much of a basher but super pedal to the metal on all of them... NEVER had a problem with a traxxas ESC: mini slash brushed, mini slash brushless, mini e revo brushless, 4tec brushless, trx4, Slash Ultimate, UDR, maxx, Xmaxx and a spartan. NOT one single ESC issue... and I am not friendly at all on my poor spur gears and tires. identified a ton on your collection list and positive experience with traxxas... ive even come to sell my other brands bit by bit due to the ease of ID Lipos.

[@Iowaprod]

Thank you for putting some sense into everyone, people just need to find something to complain about

[@UpperLeftRC]

Any time 😄👍🏻

[@VS666]

7:05 LOL love the deadpan delivery of that one, gave me a good chuckle

[@UpperLeftRC]

😂👍🏻

[@V8chump]

I’d say it definitely outperforms a stock scx24 all day long. It’ll be interesting to see how good they feel after some weight and tires 😁 Can you fit the traxxas shocks on the scx24s? They’d probably need different springs or oil to compensate for the lighter body but could be cool

[@UpperLeftRC]

I don’t think you can put the TRX4M shocks on the scx24 they are too big

[@asuchemist3371]

Great review. Thanks for expanding on the wheels.

[@UpperLeftRC]

No problem, glad you enjoyed it

[@Guden79]

The circles get tighter on both because the pressure on the wheels on the inside of the curve decreases when driving faster, so the locked differentials have less of an effect on the curve radius. So this is due to the weight shift to the outside 🙂

[@UpperLeftRC]

Thanks! 😄👍🏻 I knew some of you out there would know why

[@andrewrichey7374]

Oh I watch the whole video, Yep I’m here watching

[@PSYCHO13GARAGE]

awesome comparison video. gives a great comparison between the SCX24 and the TRX4M. Nicely done my friend! Can't wait to see what you do with it!

[@rcjungle7645]

Good video 👍

[@UpperLeftRC]

Thanks 👍🏻

[@mikes062]

Traxxas did exactly what they wanted with this truck, it’s everything it needs to be for $150, out of the box it’s aimed at someone who just wants a basic and cheap truck or something for a kid. And if you want to dump a bunch of money into it you can go in any direction you want and not spend as much starting out. People complaining about it are just looking for something to complain about!

[@UpperLeftRC]

I agree lol

[@mikes062]

@@UpperLeftRC Traxxas is very calculated in their releases, they may not be first with something but there’s not much out there that’s better out of the box of anything they make right now

[@Hutch_Davenport]

I am waiting for the mini lockers and 2 speed transmissions for motors other than the 180s. Not sure if they can squeeze a locker in those pumpkins though.

[@BJnCars]

I don't know why people bad mouth Traxxas, I've only owned Traxxas and never had issues. I owned some rc trucks and cars for months and when I had a issue I contacted them and they sent me free parts like a arm bulk heads and stub axles

[@Hutch_Davenport]

Probably because they are a nasty, litigious company that strong arms people and threaten lawsuits over mentioning their name in utoob videos. That and they have Apple style rip off pricing for a non=premium product. Think you are spending $600 for it? Wrong $2000 with all the over-priced upgrades. What they make isn't the problem for the most part. Their business practices are their business, but that doesn't mean it won't turn some people off and it absolutely does. They are extremely predatory like most hated businesses.

[@rc360hobbies6]

This video was well done!

[@UpperLeftRC]

Thanks 😄👍🏻

[@superstatus2640]

I really hope the TRX4m opens the door to an explosion in popularity of 18th scale crawlers and trail trucks. I know there's already some around, but it seems like everyone's too obsessed with the 24th scale. I like them as well, but they're just too tiny for my liking.

[@andrewrichey7374]

Yes it was that was pretty awesome,

[@mikeward6021]

i love the trx4m bronco.. I have my own, only problem is the oil filled shocks. 2 or 3 days after driving the truck the shocks werent working to well and i realize the bottom seal of each shock was leaking. And only thing store shows or tells me is to pretty much buy new seals and oil.. im a little upset about this but i love playing with the truck. i put 22 sealed bearings throughout the whole truck And new aluminum wheels.. YAY lol

[@UpperLeftRC]

Sorry to hear about the shock seals but I’m glad your loving the truck 😄👍🏻

[@texomarc]

Cracked up when you shot the trx off the course. It’s definitely not setup for crawling out of the box.

[@texomarc]

Why does the truck turn better with a little speed? Maybe slight more roll to the outside causing less weight on the inside allowing it to slip a little more while the outside grips and pulls around? Do it in second with the fcx24 and it’s super tight, especially when the inside wheels come all the way off the ground. Also, maybe just having a little more speed allows the traction to break easier and it’s not pushing as bad. Having locked difs, it wants to go straight, hence two wheeling makes it turn way better. At the slow speed, the tires don’t seem to break traction as much, for whatever added reasons, and it’s going to push. The higher grip the surface, the worse it’ll get. Just a few stoned thoughts from ya boi Josh!

[@UpperLeftRC]

For sure, it needs that slower gearbox 👍🏻

[@UpperLeftRC]

Shit I think I’m stoned after reading it 🤣 but it sounds legit! 🤘🏼

[@texomarc]

Sweet vid bro! Going to pickup ours tomorrow afternoon and going trailing. My buddy bought the bronco for him and the defender for me, so that’s freakin rad! If the binding on turning is simply the tire hitting the link, could easily fix that with a shim/washer on the outside of the hex, much less hex extenders.

[@UpperLeftRC]

Yeah both would work for sure!

[@V8chump]

That would make the turning radius worse though and I’m not sure but it might start to look kinda goofy if you space it out enough to solve the issue

[@texomarc]

@@V8chump Hurt the turning radius? How? By widening it out, it actually turns better. Literally I was talking about a shim or washer and Dustin’s scx24 bronco was already running +4mm hex extensions. Did you think that looks bad? 4mm is only 1/5 of those tires. You’re welcome to your opinion on what looks cool but widening it out enough so it doesn’t rub shouldn’t make it look bad and should help the turning even more.

[@V8chump]

@@texomarcwidening my scx24 ruined the turning radius, can’t remember how many mm it was extended though, think +5 each corner. If your wheelbase is too square the truck will turn like shit no matter what, the back tires won’t pivot because the diffs are locked so no matter how much steering angle you get the width will ruin turning unless you have fully open diffs because the rear tires still need to rotate, fact (unless you got a DIG unit up your sleeve). The widened look is opinion sure, I’m js if you’re goin for a scale looking truck it’ll throw it off

[@V8chump]

@@texomarc I’m just more annoyed I’m gonna have to widen my trx4m to get rid of the binding on the linkage (if it really is as big of a problem as some say). Don’t know why they didn’t make an ever so slightly different design 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@gerards2221]

Nice video, cool comparison and content. Really like your videos. Good job! To me it feels so weird how the traxxas lifts its front left wheel on inclines.

[@VS666]

what part of WA are you in? i have a bunch of crawlers from 24 to 6 scale and noone to crawl with =( getting my trx4m once they arrive, bigfoot hobbies in lacey didn't get their full shipment unfortunately

[@jimbo4203]

Been running it a few days and really like it, the front bumper gets hung up a lot, I hope someone makes a higher clearance one

[@chriscasterbassmaster]

You can use the flat part of the calipers just so you know. The tip is for scribing... you're welcome. You seemed to be struggling.

[@bucktheminibronco]

Kinda wanting to buy the traxxas one but i love my scx bronco. Also where do you get those lifts? I think they are really cool

[@abhishek7dbecks]

Hi, I’m new to the hobby and recently got both the TRX4M Bronco and the SCX24 C10. I am looking to upgrade wheels& tires on both, my question is: Can I use the stock TRX4M wheels + tires on the SCX24? Size and weight wise, it’ll be an upgrade for SCX24. And I’ll only need to purchase upgrades for TRX4M. My noob question is, will they fit?

[@UpperLeftRC]

Yes the hub hex sizes are the same so the wheels from the trx4 will fit the c10 but they might be a little to big and the wheels will run on the body

[@TechWizMaster]

Expect price cuts on the scx24? Right now we're i am the price is the same for both broncos so yeah...I would go with traxxas.

[@UpperLeftRC]

I don’t know if axial will drop their prices, I don’t think they need too, both trucks are great and fill 2 different places in RC, but then again I dk lol maybe they will drop their prices 🙂

[@tristar3005]

I decided to spend $45 on a new ESC and receiver, let's me use my transmitter which has many more adjustments and I don't have to worry about proprietary connectors. Almost the same price as just buying a couple dedicated Traxxas batteries. The hobby wing 1080 ESC also has adjustable parameters so you can set it up how you like and is also waterproof. Pretty good upgrade if you're looking to ditch the Traxxas electronics.

[@UpperLeftRC]

Yeah a lot of people in the mini crawler community have been modding/replacing the electronics 👍🏻 I’m pretty happy with it stock for right now but I’m the future a Hobby Wing is probably the route I’ll go

[@Boondala]

The thing I find toy-like is the stupidly ginormous controller. I get it. It’s their style. It just looks silly and it’s gotta go.

[@RilumBertrum]

Why do I hear everyone say people in mass complain traxxas are junk? I have an old ass Axial scx10 RTR deadbolt, heavily updated over my runs. A Gmade Buffalo, newest toy and really enjoy it, needs adjustments and mods. Redcat gen7, my basher I'm heavily modifying, but barely have used. And a TRX4 sport kit. Absolutely loved the build of the trx4, the quality, durability and the performance is just outstanding. Minor mods have helped performanceeven more. My trx4 sport has become the one I play with the most, no breaks, no issues. Now I love the sxc10. Got me into the hobby and I've beat the tar out it as my oldest crawler. But I don't get the hate on Traxxas. But again, I've dove into four brands and have my own good and bad opinions of them all. Anyway, great vid man.

[@UpperLeftRC]

Yeah I don’t get it either bud lol glad you enjoyed the video :)

[@bladeaddison3189]

If you’ve spent time looking at an actual Bronco … the scale of the TRX4M is more accurate. The SCX is too skinny imo.

[@staccatoglock]

Omg where u get those lifts ?

[@UpperLeftRC]

eBay, some no brand Chinese model lifts 👍🏻

[@jeffreyscales7891]

Where did you get that lift for the cars?? That's awesome. Would like to get one of those.

[@JAWZphotography]

It is a 1/24 die cast battery operated car lift from Walmart currently unavailable and online only just look for a 1/24 power car lift for die cast cars and display

[@HilltopRCracing]

Why does the trx4m motor whine but the scx24 doesn't??

[@ezboyrc553]

I was thinking about getting a couple of the traxes trucks. Is great video like always. Do they make those lifts big enough for 1/10 scale?

[@UpperLeftRC]

Thanks bud, and as far as the big lifts go, not that I know of

[@the1988undertaker]

pre orde my blue bronco thx for the great video. looking forward to the 3d printing stuff are the stl shared for free?

[@UpperLeftRC]

Yes the STLs can be found for free on Thingiverse

[@the1988undertaker]

@@UpperLeftRC do you have a link?

[@CrankImmortals]

I believe the Traxxas TRX4M comes with CVDs stock.

[@UpperLeftRC]

It does lol I just didn’t do my research 😂

[@sugarpillkiller]

SCX24 is so much cooler. I like Traxxas but I hate this Nikko Air Hogs Twaxxas junk.

[@ramontorres5776]

Stock vs Stock please.

[@questendervids2090]

I can do 4ws with the scx24 without swapping out the electronics. Looks like the traxxas one would need the esc swapped out.

[@jeremycravens6973]

Good honest review, so glad you didn't try to tell us traxxas is greater than god!

[@UpperLeftRC]

Thanks bud 😄👍🏻

[@kurthitt2891]

If any one of those rc crawlers looks toyish it would be the scx because the tires looks kinda stupid. But thats just my thought. Dont take this coment the wrong way. 🙂🙂🙂

[@UpperLeftRC]

I agree with you that the stock scx24 tires look bad 👍🏻

[@covecityboys]

Francis said what he said because Axial pays him more for reviews than Traxxas.

[@gabrielsantistevan7188]

Where did you get those lifts you have them on

[@UpperLeftRC]

eBay or Amazon, I can’t remember at this point but they are a battery powered lift for models, no brand name or anything, just some Chinese toy I found

[@Iamfirebird360]

For the cost you can't beat the trx4m imo.

[@UpperLeftRC]

I am inclined to agree with you, it all depends on what kind of RC you want, but if you are looking for a small trail truck / moderate rock crawler then yeah the TRX4M is tough to beat at that price point for that kind of quality 👍🏻

[@SteveClayson]

I think full lock on turning was due to the tire hitting the steering link ..... my guess

[@SteveClayson]

should have watched till the end before commenting lol

[@UpperLeftRC]

🤷🏻‍♂️ your guess is as good as mine 🙂👍🏻

[@inneryard]

Nice. Just ordered the TR-X4M here in Germany. I saw this nice 3D printed obstacles. I already searched on thingiverse for it. But can't find it. Can you share the link to this Stl files?

[@UpperLeftRC]

I don’t have the links handy right now but if you Search “Kyosho 4x4” on Thingiverse or “XO-01” and you’ll find them 😎👍🏻

[@inneryard]

@@UpperLeftRC thank you very much. Iooking Forward for your upcoming videos

[@inneryard]

@@UpperLeftRC do you scaled the obstacles up? Because There are a bit to small.

[@Andre_M_3D]

Hey I like your channel. Just happened to find it I will admit I am not a Traxxas fan however I still ordered the trx-4m. To me they actually came out with a good product that is well priced. And this is a first..lol. I am excited to get mine. I was about to order some wheels but noticed the stock scx24 wheels seem smaller then the trx4m. Will the injora type cheap wheels fit well on the Traxxas? I also saw some 54mm tires so may get those as well. I assume they won't be as wide as the stock Traxxas tires but that may help the binding issues

[@UpperLeftRC]

Well I’m glad you stumbled upon my channel, as far as the wheels and tires go, yes INJORA 1.0 wheels will fit, any 1.0 size wheel should fit and the 54mm tires will be a good size, they won’t be as wide like the stock TRXM tire but they will work 👍🏻

[@jimbo4203]

55 mm tires on the bronco, I put 56mm injoras on and they are barely taller than stock but narrower

[@jaybird2750]

watching your video i noticed you had a driver in the scx24 where could i go to buy one for my trx 4m bronco

[@UpperLeftRC]

I don’t know where you could get one for the TRX4M, maybe look on Facebook groups 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@nielsjuhr594]

But I'm a hater, you should listen to me and nobody else, just shut your channel down, geesh, who compares apples and oranges?! 🤣🤣🤣 Only kidding!! For the TRX4M, if you want to get rid of some of the binding, get the slower gear set for your transmission. You can get the gears for about $5 and if you want to splurge, get the whole transmission setup for about $40, less work. The Mickie Thompson tires are also really good. Otherwise, good content! 👍

[@jayjayplays1296]

What lifts are these?

[@UpperLeftRC]

Some no brand Chinese battery powered lifts I found on Amazon

[@crawlerballer]

Did you say, CBD’s nuts? 😂

[@UpperLeftRC]

I don’t think so but who knows lol I don’t remember things after I say them when I’m filming lol just zone out and talk to my self 😂

[@Overclocked0101Gaming]

Where can I buy one of those 2 post auto lifts? Those are so cool!

[@UpperLeftRC]

I got mine on eBay, it was listed as a 1/24 scale model lift, no branding or anything on it though

[@robbinthehood94]

@@UpperLeftRC were they automated or you must have modded them right?

[@donaldsneffe]

Steering radius: Check my video "Axial SCX24 turning radius: Consider..." - strange as it is (no explanation).

[@trailcrawler2038]

I wonder if the FCX24 axles would swap to the TRX4m.

[@UpperLeftRC]

I’ve looked at them and with enough messing around they probably will but the servo mounts are so different on them that it wouldnt be fun

[@trailcrawler2038]

@@UpperLeftRC Being that the FCX24 is SOA, a bit of trimming here and there on the TRX4m chassis should solve all that I would think. I've been using FCX24 axles on my converted SCX24 builds and custom (Micro Capra) crawler and they are the best axles I've touched so far. Now off to the LHS to get me a TRX4m to mess with. 🙂

[@ironj100]

.the Panda Tetra 2 is such an awesome truck

[@n7sithis336]

Man what's with these companies and binding straight outta the box? My Axial base camp binds at full lock outta the box as well. Personally still drawn to the TRX4M over the axial. Just looks more scale to me, and I like the size, not too big, not too small. Plus the pretty nice performance straight outta the box vs the axial for sure needing tires and a few other mods eh, prefer to get some runtime before modding.

[@UpperLeftRC]

Yeah those are all fair points, whatever one you prefer is the right one 😄👍🏻

[@dottycfn]

Axial, Vaterra, Traxxas. always have problem with basic math. It's probably very difficult to divide original size by ten, or even move comma one position if they can't divide. For them 1/10th scale is in fact "random" scale somewhere between 1:11 and 1:7 according to body model and axis. Shame on

[@UpperLeftRC]

These days I think most RC manufacturers use 1/10, 1/18 and 1/24 “scale” as a classification for a vehicle rather than a true description for their RC’s. That’s why you done see every single option of “scale fractions”, these designated size indicators let the manufacturers broad audience know roughly the size to expect of an RC vehicle, not the mathematical exact dimensions or measurements of a shrunken 1:1 vehicle 👍🏻

[@dottycfn]

@@UpperLeftRC but at thr end of the day you have jeep xj on the garaz with 313 wheelbase against pajero from tamiya real 1:10scale) and on the picture your garage looks like a child's cheap chinese toy because of different, not real car sizes

[@mcbreezy1rc226]

Shaft to shaft lmao

[@TheDepep1]

This video only in 360p for anyone else?

[@UpperLeftRC]

It is for everyone right now, HD is still processing :/

[@billythekidrcs1769]

It looks good to mean great video bro very Nice breakdown of all of it very knowledgeable Great to know thanks for having this video man I get my defender tomorrow

[@TheDepep1]

@@UpperLeftRC I see. Didnt know youtube uploads diffrent qualities at diffrent times.

[@ezboyrc553]

When people upload their video it comes out 360P until it finishes uploading and then you will get the full effect he set it at. At least on my videos that's how it works. Usually takes about an hour for the best viewing picture to be ready.

[@dtlv-patrickreyes1472]

😂😂😂 shaft to shaft ...

[@DoubleADay]

As we all know, a bone stock scx24 is a turd so why would it be any different for the Traxxas. After some upgrades tweaks and whatever the Hell Voodoo bcochener can come up with, it should be a tried and true crawler

[@V8chump]

Yea I think it’ll perform circles around the upgraded scx24 once you throw some wheels tires and brass on

[@UpperLeftRC]

Stock for stock the Traxxas is a better truck in just about every way in my opinion but if both are fully modded I don’t know which one I would like better 😎👍🏻

[@TrillMurray]

Those aren't portals

[@UpperLeftRC]

Yeah, did I say they were portals? My bad, I was talking about portal axles on the panda Tetra24 and maybe messed up what I was saying lol

[@TrillMurray]

@@UpperLeftRC yeah, the verbiage was a bit confusing. I think I just misunderstood what you said. Anyway, thanks for the info!

[@kennethrobinson9008]

Not similar.

[@UpperLeftRC]

😂 there is always someone