Trying American N Scale | Kato Amtrak P42 Train Pack | Unboxing & Review

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0:00 Intro
3:36 Unboxing
7:02 Prototype info
7:56 Weight
9:08 Detail
14:57 Mechanism
18:01 Performance
24:55 Ratings
28:09 Final thoughts

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@aceadman
@aceadman 3 ай бұрын
I’m an American N Scale modeler. I absolutely testify that Kato products are utterly mechanically superior to virtually everything else I’ve tried. I’ve purchased heavily used locomotives that sat in dirty garages for years, and immediately ran well, and instantly speed match with brand new similar locos. Truly remarkable. Often less tiny detail, but always enough, and always rugged. I’ve never broken a Kato handrail (which is a miracle compared to other manufacturers). Even the wheel pickup is impeccable. So much better than other makers. I don’t really know how they do it, but they are a marvel as a manufacturer. And the price has always been reasonable compared to poorer offering from other makers. Oh, and I love your channel. 😊👍👍
@JimmyProductions
@JimmyProductions 3 ай бұрын
I have to agree with you.
@Trainmaster909
@Trainmaster909 3 ай бұрын
Yeah the only better runners I have are brass locomotives made in Korea.
@ronclark9724
@ronclark9724 3 ай бұрын
My Kato N scale locomotives never disappoint...
@Blur4strike
@Blur4strike 2 ай бұрын
I've had Kato locomotives in my N Scale fleet over the last 20+ years, yet to find a faulty one. Ranks high alongside my Atlas locomotives, again yet to find one that is faulty since the 90's to current.
@sophiaevans9908
@sophiaevans9908 3 ай бұрын
I've actually met Mr Kato! He randomly popped into the shop I used to work in when he was over for the Warley show a couple of years ago. I nearly fainted when he handed me his business card!!
@tripel7470
@tripel7470 3 ай бұрын
Kato to me is the one manfucterer together with Tomix that understands the hobby, affordable prices, high quality and detail
@Sohave
@Sohave 3 ай бұрын
I met him too at the toy fair in Nuremberg, he is a cool dude. There was two other guys with him sowing their products. I did not notice him at first and just told the two men that I was impressed with the Nohab AA16 (DSB My) they had launched and I had taken some pictures of it with some of my modifications with a short accompanying text thanking for the fine product and urging them to make it some of our coaches. They decided to take it immediately to the boss who was sitting right behind having his lunch and we exchanged a few words.
@railwayjade
@railwayjade 3 ай бұрын
That's so AWESOME, WOW!
@GP30_Foamer
@GP30_Foamer 3 ай бұрын
I bought my first Kato set last year, it was a four car emerald green Japanese Railways 103 series EMU. I got it for 60 dollars from an online retailer and I couldn’t be more happy with it! It’s got directional headlights and tail lights and runs like a dream!
@BrakeCoach
@BrakeCoach 3 ай бұрын
103 series are a gem--quite literally!
@jonesinator47
@jonesinator47 3 ай бұрын
Wow It’s not hard to see why Kato is so prestigious in the model railroading hobby. This N Scale train pack is absolutely phenomenal
@dave6695
@dave6695 3 ай бұрын
As a Yankee (aka: American), I've learned a LOT about British trains and terminology from watching your videos. I found it funny (not odd funny but 😆😆😆funny) as the video is titled American N Scale. American N Scale, made by Kato in Japan and reviewed in the UK. Kato is by FAR the best N Scale money can buy.
@azuma892
@azuma892 3 ай бұрын
So Changming N gauge doesn't exist in your view, they have far surpassed Kato in terms of detail and DCC compatibility, and they cost about the same as Kato.
@azuma892
@azuma892 3 ай бұрын
Not trying to cause arguments lol, that came off as quite mean sounding. 😅
@dave6695
@dave6695 3 ай бұрын
@@azuma892: First, how can I say it doesn't exist when I've never heard of the brand you named. I am just stating my opinion, as Kato is viewed by many in model railroading as the best N Scale one can buy.
@azuma892
@azuma892 3 ай бұрын
Yes it came off wrongly, I'm sorry. I just think Changming is better than Kato in every way, they don't make Japanese, European and American prototypes so very few people know about them. Doctor Hobby on KZbin made a few videos on their fantastic HO scale models, not much about N sadly. I have some of their N gauge models, the detail is INSANE for the price.
@vehicles_n_stuff
@vehicles_n_stuff 3 ай бұрын
@@azuma892I looked it up. They look like quite good models but the main issue is that I (and probably the other commenter) model prototypical American railroads and this isn’t in our wheelhouse. These models also are not very common in the US, I’d imagine.
@mcrailroader9518
@mcrailroader9518 3 ай бұрын
The Amtrak viewliners are single floor. The upper windows are for the top bunk bed. They're not space beds 😂 I've never personally been on a viewliner sleeper, but if I'm not mistaken the bottom bunk folds up into seats
@robertknight4672
@robertknight4672 3 ай бұрын
That is correct.
@ronclark9724
@ronclark9724 3 ай бұрын
Two seats facing each other in a roomette, and a single couch for two or three in the bedroom...
@Naradra128
@Naradra128 3 ай бұрын
Hi Sam, the decoder you showed on screen are for Kato EMU style of equipment, like their Shinkansen and other Japanese passengers train and some European TGV. On that type of loco you would just replace the whole board with a new DCC board, make the conversion very easy. That's true for most N scale loco from most manufacturers, not just Kato. Aside from that awesome review very in-depth as always.
@richardchantlerrico
@richardchantlerrico 3 ай бұрын
And another thing to note is that their not just Kato branded decoders, ESU etc offer deciders to fit these form factors. Their also easier to install then the 8 or 21 pin decoder sockets.
@twiggs24
@twiggs24 3 ай бұрын
Kato is the best. Japanese craftsmanship at its finest.
@dannagy546
@dannagy546 3 ай бұрын
Sam, you should visit the Kato Headquarters in Tokyo someday! They have a couple very large N scale layouts of Japanese Prototypes and a huge showroom and shop! It's exceptionally cool! Also Kato Unitrack is amazing stuff, the best "pre bedded" track on the market, bar none
@nickmanley2551
@nickmanley2551 3 ай бұрын
It is a great facility where you can also rent time to run your own trains on their extensive layouts. Very memorable experience!
@eh-269
@eh-269 3 ай бұрын
Kate unitrack is quite nice and sturdy, good for temporary layouts, but I prefer tomix fine tracks mainly as they have a lot more selection of switches and what not. Although Kato Japanese emus are quite nice.
@davidhaigh1612
@davidhaigh1612 3 ай бұрын
I am a Brit and have been living the USA for 46 years. I have a number of Atlas/Kato HO locomotives that are superb, 2 RS3, 1 RS1 and a RS11. They run great and can be M/u and all keep the same speed. AT a display we hooked up 3 diesels and successfully pulled a train of 156 HO cars.
@the_autism_express
@the_autism_express 3 ай бұрын
A little bit more info about the genesis diesels: they were conceived to be a replacement for Amtrak's F40PH express engines. And as of right now, all genesis diesels are in the process of being retired and replaced by the Siemens ALC-42.
@peterkneissl3358
@peterkneissl3358 3 ай бұрын
😊also made by kato
@revolutiontrains
@revolutiontrains 3 ай бұрын
Kato products are superb and, rightly, revered among N scale (gauge) enthusiasts. They have offered two British prototypes: in the mid-1990s they produced the then-new Class 373 Eurostar and more recently they have the new Hitachi Class 800 bi-modes on offer in 5-car GWR and LNER liveries, with 9-car variants due this year. The great thing about Kato is that, in general, their trains come in complete packs so you have a train-in-a-box and don't need to fish around for additional coaches to make it complete. Mr Hiroshi Kato is the president and he tends to visit some of the larger UK shows; he was at Model Rail Scotland last weekend and often attends The International N Gauge Show in September.
@Skasaha_
@Skasaha_ 3 ай бұрын
They just released an alternative version of the GWR 800 with the Paddington Bear special livery.
@SwiftSlots
@SwiftSlots 3 ай бұрын
I've been collecting Japanese N scale for the last 30 years and I can tell you it's been like this all that time. I have hundreds of items of Kato and some TOMIX, and it's all FANTASTIC, most of it runns better than what is in this video !!! I left british N scale in the early 90's because of one visiting Kato loco to my layout.
@leiagelwasser2168
@leiagelwasser2168 3 ай бұрын
This is your first time with a model that I actually own. I have this exact p42 set, and I plan on getting another to be able to make the Crescent, a train I used to ride all the time to get to Atlanta. A friend of mine managed to find a Japanese c62 used at a model shop near me, and I'm eternally jealous of her.
@colossus11
@colossus11 3 ай бұрын
I run n-scale and have never been disappointed by Kato products. I have the Kato Union Pacific 844 and the Big Boy. They run extremely smooth and the level of detail and control is second to none.
@Alan-ln3ls
@Alan-ln3ls 3 ай бұрын
The Digitrax DN163K0A DCC decoder is an easy drop-in fit, completely replacing the large board.
@sargentrowell81
@sargentrowell81 3 ай бұрын
The Viewliner gets it's name presumably from the second row of windows, which were originally for the top bunk in each sleeping compartment to have a view out of the train as well, but the second row of windows stuck around for the Viewliner II Diner cars.
@RHTeebs
@RHTeebs 3 ай бұрын
My first experience with model trains was with N scale. I was 7 years old. The layout was a replica of the Erie Railroad mainline going through Salamanca, NY. Circa 1948. A splendidly done layout with tons of detail. The model town looked just as Salamanca did, pre-flood. The layout was owned by my godfather, and when he saw how much I liked model trains, he got me more involved: taking me to train shows, and showing me his weathering techniques. Eventually, he added me to his layout, literally: a small model version of me, sitting on a bench by the tracks, eating a texas hot dog from Wellsville.
@C62express
@C62express 3 ай бұрын
Hello I’m Japanese model train fan I usually loves N gauge model train. KATO’s steam train is massive great model, Quality is great and works very perfect, greatest steam model train in the world.
@alcobufff
@alcobufff 3 ай бұрын
HI Sam! The reason for the drastic differences in prices for this and other Kato sets, is that they come with different features. This set, the intercity, for example, can be had like the one you reviewed, in the base configuration, with the coaches not lit and a DC locomotive, which can be upgraded to dcc with a decoder that replaces the stock board. There is another version that comes with lit coaches and yet another that comes with a DCC equipped locomotive. Great review as always! PS: I would love to see do a review of one of Kato's n scale double track V track packs.
@gamingwithlukeJToH
@gamingwithlukeJToH 3 ай бұрын
I've found that while Kato doesn't have the best detail, it certainly does shine in terms of quality.
@ronclark9724
@ronclark9724 3 ай бұрын
With N scale highly detailed models with many hand fitted parts aren't as necessary as with HO or OO scale models... Frankly I prefer N scale because of not having delicate hand fitted parts that fall off easily onto my layout's tracks...
@gamingwithlukeJToH
@gamingwithlukeJToH 3 ай бұрын
@@ronclark9724 I do certainly agree. I love the incredibly high end models made by Scaletrains and such, but Kato is the brand I collect most in terms of N scale.
@leokimvideo
@leokimvideo 12 күн бұрын
Kato equals quality, lots of lessons in the build in what should be in so many other model train manufacturers. Their track system is also very interesting to tinker with. The old argument related to made in China Vs Japan is simple. Yes sure sometimes something made in China is ok, but sadly so many times it's substandard for the priced. Wow why am I thinking of Hornby right now. Japan has a lot of pride in their design and manufacturing, it can be seen in so many of their made in Japan products.
@CannibalChow
@CannibalChow 3 ай бұрын
Kato being the #1 pick for N scale like always, I have their Big Boy & F3 and honestly only got Kato products aside from a few they don't have like the PRR T1 just because they haven't made it yet. Definitely recommend Kato through and through along with how durable they are as I had actually dropped my Big Boy and nothing broke aside from one detail part that I simply glued back on but the motors and all still worked smoother than even my old HO stuff.
@OfficialCruiseshipzStudios
@OfficialCruiseshipzStudios 3 ай бұрын
As someone who rode on an Amtrak train multiple times, I’m really impressed with the model’s attention to detail and its beautiful performance. I’ve not own one of these as I only run HO scale model trains, but I would love to try this set of models featuring that loco and the first two coaches I rode on many times! Thanks for sharing your thoughts! This looks like one of the best looking model trains that Japan has ever produced in their own N-scale line!
@a2020vision_official
@a2020vision_official 3 ай бұрын
I think this is the first time you've reviewed a model whose prototype I not only know I've seen in person, but have ridden behind. In the close-up shots the silver paint has a shiny, metallic flake kind of appearance. In person it's a much flatter gray color. Kato know this because the HO scale version has a flatter finish. Looks like at any distance that effect isn't noticeable, though, so it's not a big deal. Speaking of the HO scale version, I have one and I recommend you get it too. I don't want to give much away but it has a very interesting mechanism and a lot of weight.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 ай бұрын
Ahh awesome!! Yes that's true - it does look quite a bit different on the close ups - not really like that in person at all! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@ronclark9724
@ronclark9724 3 ай бұрын
The Viewliner and Superliner cars are produced with stainless steel... Stainless steels holds up well in the North American harsh winters and don't rust like steel does... Even the older Budd cars VIA uses is produced with stainless steel... Europeans may complain about our silver shiny livery, but that isn't flat paint like on the steel locomotives today...
@alanwilson307
@alanwilson307 3 ай бұрын
I have both N scale and Ho locomotives from kato, they are the only brand of locos I have owned that ran perfectly straight out of the box and never ever had any issues with, they are spectacular runners with bullet proof reliability to this day, thanks for the video Sam, love the variety in your channel, your a great influence on the hobby.
@bavarianbanshee
@bavarianbanshee 3 ай бұрын
I don't work for Amtrak themselves, but I see these almost every day, and I must say these models look great and quite true to life.
@blazemaster1149
@blazemaster1149 3 ай бұрын
About 3-4 years ago I took the Amtrak from my hometown to Chicago to stay with my cousin for a college visit. It was my first time on a train alone and isn’t a shuttle. I loved it and I currently attend that college I visited
@rayshowsay1749
@rayshowsay1749 3 ай бұрын
In case not already said... A Viewliner has Bedrooms and Roomettes. A basic Viewliner room,though called a Roomette, is essentially a modern version of the traditional Pullman Section with a toilet added; a traditional Roomette was sold for single occupancy and included a toilet and a washbasin. Each car has two Bedrooms with the remaining accommodation being the Roomettes. Their single level design, as opposed to the two-level Superliners, reflects the clearance restrictions on eastern railways.
@ronclark9724
@ronclark9724 3 ай бұрын
Specifically the Hudson River tunnels leading into Penn Station in New York City... No bi-level Superliner trains go to Penn Station...
@jeannedarcalterberserker8620
@jeannedarcalterberserker8620 3 ай бұрын
I have multiple Kato locos, a JNR DD51 Diesel, a JRF EH 500 dual electric, a Duwag tram and multiple EMU's. Every single one of these still run beautifully. The best one of them being the Japanese EH 500 dual electric freight locomotive. It runs so nicely even over the terrible trackwork of mine and can pull 12 tanker cars up a unreasonably steep gradient. For most of their Japanese stuff they include a detail pack with handrails and also locomotive running numbers to fit yourself. This way you can decide which running number you want. I run Kato track and a controller as well and while the track isn't the most popular here in Switzerland, it's incredibly easy, having a gravel bed with clips and electronic points are as simple as plug and play with no wiring skills required. Their controller is inspired by a Japanese EMU and is incredibly fun to use. I recommend you try it one day. Kato locomotives run as good as Fleischmann, a German manufacturer, but being about 30% cheaper. I serviced a few myself and they are a treat. Highly recommend some of their Japanese locos. I really wanna see what you think about them 😁 greetings from Switzerland. Oh and BTW, I left the superchat donation last week and you can simply call me Jeanne. Its a French name and my nickname is a reference to my favourite anime game.
@andrewpalm2103
@andrewpalm2103 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for reviewing another US prototype, Sam! I have a Kato HO EMD NW2 switcher (purchased many years ago) and it runs very smoothly and is quite heavy for its size. Kato is well known over here for their excellent mechanisms, which you have now experienced for yourself. Cheers from Wisconsin!
@Kaname1981
@Kaname1981 3 ай бұрын
I have two Kato Shinkansens a 100 series and a 200 series plus an EF65. They are the best trains I own quite expensive but definitely worth the price
@adamwilliams192
@adamwilliams192 3 ай бұрын
Kato have an excellent reputation in N gauge. One of my most prized possessions is my Kato Eurostar, which is over 20 years old now and runs as well as this set! I have also met Mr Kato himself, a very nice gentleman who is appearing at more and more model shows in the U.K. Incidentally if you want to visit the International N gauge show one year, that’s a great taste of N gauge. Ref the digital situation, Kato was not keen on DCC for a while. None of their chassis were designed with it in mind so the proprietary chips are an afterthought. Just to say apart from the Eurostar, the only U.K. based train the do is the IEP 5 car sets. They are shortly releasing the 9 car sets as well. Best
@grrfy
@grrfy 3 ай бұрын
I am a uk based USA outline modeller found out about kato and tomytec/Tomix (track) over 15 years ago, they are simply great track,locos and rolling stock.
@SouRwy4501Productions
@SouRwy4501Productions 3 ай бұрын
A bit of information about American sleeping cars. They usually come in two varieties, those being ones with individual rooms (roomette style) and ones with fold-out bunk beds (Pullman style). Pullman style was very popular in the early twentieth century, and some can even still be found in service today. Meanwhile, roomette style was also a thing in the early twentieth century, but it really became popular with streamlined passenger services. Nowadays, roomette style is the most common type used in regular passenger service.
@ronclark9724
@ronclark9724 3 ай бұрын
Americans have been very fond with the roomettes ever since Pullman created them as well the standard bedroom similar to European sleeper trains. Americans have not and won't adopt the couchette sleeper cars the Europeans have, as Amtrak won't sell the couchette compartments to more than one couple, no sharing of sleeping compartments with total strangers...
@anthonydavies6021
@anthonydavies6021 3 ай бұрын
I've travelled on the Lakeshore Limited (shown as one of the trains on the back of the box) between Rochester and New York Penn Station. I travelled coach (economy) class, but it was still a comfortable, quiet ride with plenty of space and a super helpful conductor. The stations were clean, well-maintained (Penn Station's architecture is awesome). Their online booking process was also very straightforward. Americans obviously love their cars and internal flights, but in comparison with our broken railways here Amtrak, which is a quasi-public corporation with all the stock owned by the government, seems to be profitable and offers what you would expect from a well-run railway. Great that this model reflects that quality.
@RailRide
@RailRide 3 ай бұрын
The appearance of profitability is mostly an illusion, since the vast majority of passenger rail services did and still do run at a loss going all the way back into their "golden era". Amtrak itself came within striking range of breaking even on day-to-day operations costs just before the pandemic and is currently working to recover that lost ground.
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 3 ай бұрын
Kato have also made numerous HO scale US diesels, first under the Atlas brand and then as the phenomenal drive system of the Stewart range of EMD F units from FT to F7. After this success they started their own range of US diesels sold from Kato USA. Some of the one i have are multiple of their SD40 , SD45 and the newer ACW4400 ( i think). If i saw an Atlas loco had a Kato drive, i made a point of buying several as I do with Stewart F units. One Atlas Alco was so close to a New South Wales 40 class diesel that an Australian shop had a large order made in close to NSWGR Tuscan Red so that real modellers had a great base to modify and detail it up as a 40 class. Really made a lot of Australian modellers even more fed up with Lima drive systems and the Hornby similar ones. Even steering people to even second hand Kato based locomotives have them converted away from the poor running expensive stuff they had or were thinking of buying. The lack of extreme detail is a plus when not falling off. The detail is soon forgotten when they experience how Kato units perform.
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways 3 ай бұрын
In US N Scale, the DCC board usually replaces the lighting board. Not too fiddly an exchange but does need kapton tape. And those Kato couplings - they are designed to uncouple if you push the carriages or loco and carriage together. Can cause surprises if you get a sudden voltage drop
@user-jw9ox5rl8v
@user-jw9ox5rl8v 3 ай бұрын
Kato is just plain awesome! It's extremely easy to make complete and accurate passenger train consists with them!
@davidmolin8944
@davidmolin8944 3 ай бұрын
I’m so happy you actually reviewed a Kato product for once, I own the same P42DC but with running number 47 which ironically was wrecked a few years back. I own the Santa Fe f units and both superliners and freight cars and they are all so well made and run so well. I highly suggest trying out the emd f7 units they produce those things are really nicely made
@MrBnsftrain
@MrBnsftrain 3 ай бұрын
3:06 I'm glad they included consist guides. You can also use Viewliner II baggage car 156-0958 to model Amtrak long-distance trains from 2016 to the present day instead of 156-0953. The Viewliner was debuted in 1987 with two prototype cars (and a diner car) as a replacement for 1940s and 50s streamliner sleeper cars on routes east of Chicago, the upper windows are meant to give upper bunk passengers a view outside. 50 production cars were delivered beginning in 1995 and have 12 roomettes, two larger bedrooms, and an acessible bedroom.
@ronclark9724
@ronclark9724 3 ай бұрын
And lately Amtrak has received from CAF more Viewliner sleeper cars, along with diners, baggage, and baggage dorm cars... These single level sleeper trains coaches presently are Amfleet II cars, but there is talk that they will be replaced with the new Siemens coaches at a later date... Presently the Amfleet I coaches are being replaced with Siemens coaches...
@YellowNoseProductions
@YellowNoseProductions 3 ай бұрын
N scales awesome and I’m happy to see others become interested in the smaller models and it’s even more awesome that you started with kato!
@ChicagoCrossingRR
@ChicagoCrossingRR 3 ай бұрын
I have a number of Kato N scale locomotives. They are very easy DCC installs and as you've seen, very high-quality mechanisms. Run at scale speeds, they are also among the most quiet runners I have. By and large they are the best combination of value and quality in the N scale market. DCC in N scale is only gradually achieving something like an 18pin type standard.
@blah02
@blah02 3 ай бұрын
I'm really happy to see how much of a great first impression Katos' products have given you Sam! They're definitely my favorite manufacturer in this scale, and I think they've hit that really good sweet spot between detail and price. I have several Japanese and American Steam locos from them, and, like their diesels, they run amazingly, and even for the ones that are 10+ years old now, I just have to run them in again and they run as if they're brand new! I whole-heartedly reccomend trying out their American FEF-3 and Japanese C62 locomotives (they also just recently released a Big Boy if you're looking for that one in N-scale) DCC is a bit of a mixed bag in N-scale as the size constraints is one factor, as well as it having limited success in the Japan market, but overall the decoders all adopt that "drop-in chip" style/shape for most locos in N-scale. Love the channel Sam, these in-depth reviews are always a fun watch at the end of my day :)
@rizzo_grt
@rizzo_grt 3 ай бұрын
I've had a static display N scale model of this very locomotive for years, it's so fun to see Sam review a moving example of it!
@robertknight4672
@robertknight4672 3 ай бұрын
Prior to the AmFleet II there was the amfleet I coach. Amfleet I can be identified by their having their side doors on both ends of the car rather than just one end like the amfleet II.
@rwjenkins
@rwjenkins 3 ай бұрын
I was into N scale for a few years in the late 1990s when I was in a flat and limited for space. I had collected a few N scale pieces before that, but when I started shopping for the new layout, I was absolutely blown away by the performance of the KATO USRA heavy Mikado, very quiet and smooth-running. I never imagined N scale could do that! And that was over 25 years ago now, I’ll be really interested to see how things have progressed since then. Anyway, I’d definitely recommend the KATO Mikado for a steamer.
@Skasaha_
@Skasaha_ 3 ай бұрын
I model Japanese N scale so Kato is often at the top of my shopping list. Many of the the things and features you mentioned are on everything they make, like the typical/historical consists in the instruction book, or most locos coming with multiple number plates. Coach lights usually don't come pre--installed, but they're standardised so you can pop them in virtually anything they make easily. In terms of pulling power, it's pretty normal for them to be pretty strong. The C11 tank engine is absolutely tiny but can easily pull over 10 coaches. Everything remotely recent has a coreless motor with a flywheel. The Shinkansen models are geared for speed and you kinda really need the superelevated curves for them. Kato often has some pretty creative solutions to couplings and such. A very interesting one recently is the EF55, a streamlined electric that, to enable a reasonable minimum radius, the bogie will actually move backwards under the body of the loco whenever it turns left or right so it misses the front cowling. I own quite a few Kato steam locos. Anything from the current generation of steam locos is phenomenal. In the past they have some really obvious compromises to make way for the mechanism but their recent ones (last 8 years I think?) are noticeably smaller and actually hit the target scale, with some really amazing detail. I'd recommend the C11, C12 or C56 for the most impressive performers (considering their size and price), 58654 SL Hitoyoshi for some of their best detail, or the Big Boy for one of the most ridiculous models ever made - it can go round 282mm (11") curves. Something you didn't get to see here is that most Kato sets come with a book case for storage. I only see it from Japanese manufacturers but it's super convenient. A tip for buying the Japanese prototype models - buy from Japanese shops in Japan. The official importers unfortunately end up adding quite a lot to prices so it's typically twice the price and shipping is no where near that much even if buying a single item. Not to mention the availability for specific models is much higher.
@skyrocket0113
@skyrocket0113 3 ай бұрын
Cheers Sam & so glad you cover n gauge from time to time which is the scale I work with. I definitely think both China & Japan manufacture quality models! I especially love the Japanese n scale Kato snap together track they do! Absolutely brilliant! The n gauge Kato train sets are brilliant, too! China also manufactures a lot of our model railway products now & they're also quality! This was a quality model on the video! A lovely train pack of a US model from Kato! Brilliant stuff mate & real quality!👍
@anitrain
@anitrain 3 ай бұрын
Love to see you doing a Kato review! Would live to see more. I have a similar set to this that I just recently got and very much agree with your reviews.
@katellareedycreekrailway9657
@katellareedycreekrailway9657 3 ай бұрын
I was not a model train fanatic prior to the pandemic. During the pandemic, KZbin randomly offered me one of your videos. I loved your approach to reviews and started watching more model railroad channels. About a year and a half ago, I bought my first train set, the Kato Santa Fe Super Chief starter set with a loop of pre-bedded, snap together track and a power pack, for about 200 USD. I've gotten two more locos since, both Katos. They all run excellently and easily stand up to Catzilla attacks. Check out Kato's Pocket Line steeplecab electric loco. I picked one up for $35 and it's a little guy that runs like a charm.
@Dirtbag10417
@Dirtbag10417 3 ай бұрын
I came back to model trains a year ago. Since then I've bought a lot of Amtrak related content from Kato (as well as UP 4014) and the quality is very telling. Very detailed, great runners and still proves to be a well worth purchase
@jayzobouldercreekrailroad
@jayzobouldercreekrailroad 3 ай бұрын
Fantastic review! I love my p42 from kato to death. Got a heritage unit version which is really special. One thing I would like to mention about Dcc. You mentioned that it is odd that the loco does not have a next18 socket. In USA n scale models we rarely use next18 systems. Most models (especially diesels) use “drop in” decoders like the one you showed on screen. We don’t use plug tech like next18 due to space limitation. So our main solution is drop in. It is essentially the standard of 90% of North American n scale models. It makes installation of Dcc and Dcc sound extremely easy. Cheers and keep it up! -jay
@ronclark9724
@ronclark9724 3 ай бұрын
Frankly the N scale models sound speakers are too small for high fidelity when HO or OO scale models which are larger have the same issue...
@metropod
@metropod 15 күн бұрын
the first class was originally given the designation "AMD-103", "Amtrak Monocoque Diesel, 103 MPH", with "Genesis" having always been the product name. it was then changed to 'Dash 8-40BP" before settling on P40DC. Both be P40DC and P42DC are classed as "Series 1 Genesis". The Series 2 is occupied by the one version you didn't mention, the P32AC-DM, which is a dual mode diesel/third rail electric locomotive specifically built for New York Penn Station and Grand Central Terminal.
@SouRwy4501Productions
@SouRwy4501Productions 3 ай бұрын
I don’t really do N scale, but I have owned a few Kato HO scale models, and I must say that they are pretty good. I mainly only have two of their rs-1 locomotives, and they have been very satisfactory. They have relatively simple electronics, 5-pole motors, and all wheel drive. They don’t have brass bearings, but they do use brass contacts as bearings as well as pickups for power.
@Modellers-Workbench
@Modellers-Workbench 3 ай бұрын
Got my first Hornby in the 70s...Got my first Kato about 5 years ago. Never looked back. Amazing engineering in them and really it is where a lot of other manufacturers should aim to be. For DCC you replace the main Kato Board, eg. ESU micro with sound. Solder the clips, LEDs and speaker. So it is different to OO that way, but even I can do it. N really has come a long way. Just bought an Atlas GP-7 with sound ... sweet.
@SeatedViper
@SeatedViper 3 ай бұрын
You'll not go wrong with Kato! Wonderful stuff.
@kennethmcintyre2847
@kennethmcintyre2847 3 ай бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed your presentation. I do love my Kato display models which extends to ninety nine units. All purchased in the States during many stays there.
@t1m3f0x
@t1m3f0x 3 ай бұрын
The Viewliner is not double-decker, the reason why Amtrak needs the Viewliner sleeping cars is because the tunnels into New York City are to low for their Bilevel Superliner cars, requiring them to use single-level cars in the north-east. Also the sleeping car is different because it's a Viewliner, and not an Amfleet.
@DennisLora2001
@DennisLora2001 3 ай бұрын
Amazing video well done Sam
@zuper1133
@zuper1133 3 ай бұрын
Hi Sam, With the decoders its a drop in decoder so you just replace the existing PCB with a decoder that fits the model (most US manufacturers of decoders have a really nice selection too for decoders)
@jamesdunloptrains
@jamesdunloptrains 3 ай бұрын
Awesome video today Sam really nice train pack
@anthonybarber3220
@anthonybarber3220 3 ай бұрын
I find it amazing how this runs better than most OO scale models.
@SeanBodine
@SeanBodine 3 ай бұрын
I remember recommending N scale to you a while ago. Having used Kato since 2009, I can safely say their products are amazing.
@Anthonator-rv5lm
@Anthonator-rv5lm 3 ай бұрын
As an American N scale enthusiast, I can also attest to Kato's Quality. You might be interested in reviewing their pocket line series. They are more meant for beginner modelers, but they are by far the best value for money I have ever seen myself for a new n scale product from any brand. You may have to shop around, but I got my small loco (with a flywheel), and two coaches for $60 USD.
@azuma892
@azuma892 3 ай бұрын
Virtually every model by Kato and Tomix is like this, they rely heavily on plastic molded details, which admittedly doesn't look too bad at this scale. They usually run very well with exceptional slow speed performance. I've lost interest in Japanese N gauge for a while now, British OO is just so much more interesting... You are to blame of course.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 ай бұрын
Ahh okay! Well like you say it looks good at this scale, so I think it's all good! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@OragamiTobichi-bi6lh
@OragamiTobichi-bi6lh 3 ай бұрын
Very smoll but really cool my friend. I have 3 more engines coming so Ill keep u updated my friend. Keep being awesome and ur trains are the best
@MRB1SHQP
@MRB1SHQP 3 ай бұрын
I have a Kato n gauge LNER Azuma, it is really fantastic, very pleased with it.
@TrainStreet
@TrainStreet 3 ай бұрын
I have 5 n scale genesis’s and this exact set. Out of all the n scale engines I own my genesis’s perform the best and can haul the most. One of the best Kato packs out there. Kato is the best n scale manufacturer.
@BDJ_Trains
@BDJ_Trains 3 ай бұрын
I love the amtrak and metra commuter trains by kato so much! Highly recommend them!
@dangarcia4866
@dangarcia4866 3 ай бұрын
KATO is the TOYOTA of the model railroad industry. Their models are not flashy, but they are elegantly reliable
@jonathanvincent5789
@jonathanvincent5789 3 ай бұрын
Digitrax makes a drop in decoder for these, that simply replaces the entire "dummy" board. It only takes a couple of minutes to make the swap, and it works with all DCC systems. The Kato decoders you show are just for controlling the lights in the cars. The cars themselves don't come with lights, but Kato makes a drop-in lighting kit for those as well.
@DeZweedseMachinist
@DeZweedseMachinist 3 ай бұрын
I have an older class C57 steam engine from Kato (product number 2007-3) and it is one of my best performing N scale locos, a very quiet and smooth runner. :)
@ThadeasTheQuiet
@ThadeasTheQuiet 3 ай бұрын
Although I enjoy all your videos, I'm happy to see you do another n scale review. I grew up with HO but left the hobby for a number of years (mostly for space). I few years ago I saw a locomotive In N scale that I really liked and bought it. I fell in love with the scale and have slowly been building my collection. Although I am definitely a novice with model trains, I will say all my Kato locos I own have all been amazing runners. I have three Kato steamers; a Southern Pacific class GS-4, a Union Pacific Big Boy (which I never thought I'd own one), and a Japanese National Railway Class D51. All of them have impressed me. I personally would recommend the D51. If you look around you can find them for fairly cheap.
@user-rn8ix1ff3q
@user-rn8ix1ff3q 3 ай бұрын
A very impressive model! The quality of the metallic paintwork is extraordinary, and the manufacturer has used such a tiny grain size for the silver flakes that it's hard to believe that the exterior is not clad with real alloy. I have seen a few other products from Kato, and can confirm that their Quality Control is second to none. I think your foray into N Scale will be very successful, and bring you even more international viewers. Compliments to Jack for lending these Tiny Trains to you, and it will be great to see more! Perhaps you can find the space to put together a landscaped layout, because many people I have met at Shows are fascinated by what can be achieved in a fairly small space in N Scale, especially if you incorporate multi-levels, bridges, viaducts, tunnels and an Alp or two. As you said recently, it is amazing that Hornby went for TT instead of N Scale for their new products, and they may still decide to rethink that choice, if they can bear to swallow their pride and write off the investment in TT.
@greg_mmm
@greg_mmm 3 ай бұрын
I have a pair of Kato N scale D51 class steam locomotives, and even though I've had them for years now they still blow my mind every time I get them out of the box. They put so many larger models to shame in both detail and performance, however they do use traction tires since Japanese models are generally even smaller than European models. If we didn't have a great big ocean in between us I'd lend you one to try since they've never truly been run 😭 Great video as always!
@stuchris
@stuchris 3 ай бұрын
kato, and just N scale in general seems to get better quality than even HO scale stuff, Im always more satisfied to use N scale
@potatocat5764
@potatocat5764 3 ай бұрын
As someone who has the n scale Kato model of Union Pacific 844, I would highly recommend it. It’s a beautiful runner and I have not had any problems with it after owning it for 4 years.
@6allmotivepowers363
@6allmotivepowers363 3 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoyed checking out Kato and Amtrak, Sam! I'm a big Amtrak fan myself, and I got several of Kato's products as gifts many years ago, so it means a lot that you're reviewing them here. I'd highly recommend checking out the bi-level Superliner cars and especially the iconic F40PH locomotive in the equally iconic Phase III livery!
@darreno9874
@darreno9874 3 ай бұрын
Great review Sam, I would love to see some 009 narrow gauge stuff and the tiny t gauge. God bless you both
@bradandfudge
@bradandfudge 3 ай бұрын
I love my n scale Kato locos and coaches. I have a 15 coach Orient Express set, purchased off Ebay a few years ago for about £160, and I've fitted light kits into every coach, as well as adding some tiny hand painted people. It looks stunning. Also I've got two Class 800 UK sets, Azuma and GWR. These don't allow for light kits unless you are very very skilled. Most recently I treated myself to a Thalys 10 car set, again a bargain off Ebay, and I've fitted lights into all coaches and front and rear locos. Again it looks superb. If you buy direct from Japan, e.g. Plaza, then the prices are cheaper than the UK BUT you have to remember that there needs to be added to the price import duty and VAT. This then makes them not as cheap as you imagined. The price you pay from a UK supplier will include the above taxes so it's horses for courses. The quality of these Kato models is wonderful, in my opinion, and I'd highly recommend them. Try some more Sam, I'll lend you one of my sets if you ask nicely !!
@williamnichols467
@williamnichols467 3 ай бұрын
I have Kato’s HO Scale P42, and it is a beauty
@jmobem5383
@jmobem5383 3 ай бұрын
Great to see you branch out into N. I’ve got the LNER and GWR Azumas which are terrific. There’s also the freelance 0-4-0 electric with pantographs which is a really fun loco. I have found some problems with the track though, particularly the crossovers which have tended to derail grafar locos like the class 37. Other members of the N Gauge Society have reported similar issues. That said, getting a whole Azuma train, controller and circuit of track for around £200 is incredible value.
@saptaksarkar30468
@saptaksarkar30468 3 ай бұрын
I am not an American railfan but I am pretty sure the livery on the P42 is Amtrack's phase V livery and not phase VI. Regardless, it is an awesome model
@MachRacer4
@MachRacer4 3 ай бұрын
I have a 3 Kato engines in HO Scale and 2 in OO9 and love them.
@richardchantlerrico
@richardchantlerrico 3 ай бұрын
An Australian here, I usually model UK but have been starting to move over to N-gauge due to smaller size (easier to store), better prices etc. I first bought some Kato models (D51 with coach set and C57 with coaches, both are steam engines) as I had seen a friend with his Kato models running better than my OO / HO models. Every single Kato model I have bought has run rings around other brands, Tomix aren't too bad but Kato is definently the best for performance and price. I then grabbed a Dapol Evening Star and it had nothing but issues, had to replace the model, same thing with a DMU so I am currently off Dapol. The Graham Farish models have so far been good, but at the price of 1 GF Pacific I can get 3 or 4 Kato D51 / C62's etc which run vastly superior. UK manufacturers really need to start putting in the effort in making their models to a good standard. Literally the only issue I have had with buying Kato so far is that I can't stand the subpar models of UK brands anymore. I am considering grabbing some European N gauge though.
@grumbeast
@grumbeast 3 ай бұрын
So glad you’ve finally got a Kato locomotive!. I have a bunch as I model both Canadian / US and Japanese. I’ve yet to see one that doesn’t run at least as well as the set you have here. I’ve bought quite a few second hand for less than CDN$100 and they all still run smooth as silk. The whole dual flywheel / 5pole motor is pretty much the minimum spec for all North American locos these days. I have a Kato mikado that was the gold standard steam loco in N over here for years, and now also have an FEF-3 which is just incredible (performance and details) though I’m not sure it would cope well with your inner radius loop!
@SNER333
@SNER333 3 ай бұрын
So glad you finally tried, in my opinion, the best model train producer. It's nice that I already own the thing you're reviewing! For the price differences - Kato does make this exact Amtrak set as a full on starter set with power pack and transformer - so that might be the price differences you saw. They also make a pack of just the coaches, so it's a bit confusing which is which at a glance online. I have, and recommend both Kato's D51 (Japanese steam engine) in n scale and Small England 0-4-0 in 009 scale (HO scale for N scale track). Both are the same quality you saw today! My only problem with Kato is I wish they made more steamers!
@briandesens144
@briandesens144 3 ай бұрын
Awesome video Sam's trains 😊
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Brian!
@briandesens144
@briandesens144 3 ай бұрын
@@SamsTrains you're welcome Sam's trains and I can't wait for you to review Bachmann beau
@johnoneill5661
@johnoneill5661 3 ай бұрын
I have 8 Kato ho gauge North American diesels and they are really great runners and they are good value too.
@capitallines
@capitallines 3 ай бұрын
Kato US and Japanese locos tend to be designed for drop-in replacement DCC circuit boards, complete with lights, rather than the pins/sockets we're used to over here. For example, tthe Digitrax DN163K0A fits this loco and can be had from places like Coastal DCC in the UK. The decoder you show in the video is actually for multiple units, such as the LNER and GWR Class 800s that Kato produce for the UK market - perhaps you'll try one of those next? 👍
@martinoward6921
@martinoward6921 3 ай бұрын
This was such an awaited video of mine on your channel. I began with my dad growing up with OO Hornby and Bachman, and was lucky to get some European HO stuff as well. However, now I live alone and space has been an issue so I tried to give N scale a go as I am a big fan of High Speed, with my fav train being the Class 373 Eurostar sets. Now, of course I got the Hornby one and it was decent, but it left me wanting more. I remember you mentioned in your video it would be awesome if they did a full railway detailed version. Well now I have both the Kato old livery and the new one. Let me say, it’s incredible and you can get a proper long train with the expansion packs. Kato did and absolutely incredible job with it, far beyond what I have seen with other manufacturers. Also big fan of the bullet train, especially the 500 series. Honestly what a train. Also bough the E5 Hayabusa starter set. I have also purchased the new Azuma Class 800s and the value for money compared to the Hornby ones is considerable. It’s absolutely incredible! And again what gets me is the value for money for the quality on all these models! I know Graham Farish were selling a class 220 Voyager 4 car set for an RRP of nearly £399 I believe. But then Kato had the class 800s from GWR and LNER at half the price with their incredible Unitrack! And the quality is just insanely good value. It’s hard to go back after you tried Kato. I saw also Importing them from Japan on Amazon international delivery is quite cost effective too. However not tried it yet so will let you know the result. Any who digressing here, but the point is it is great to see you have given Kato a try and look forward to see you try more of their stuff. A Classic Japanese Steamer or maybe a Bullet train would be amazing! Or just their British offerings. Also I noticed you checked Gauge Master and they are a bit overpriced, so would recommend looking at TrainTrax in York as I noticed the N gauge society were advertising them! They have an 8 car Kato bullet train for £176.40. An absolute steal! Would definitely recommend as I have it and works like Clockwork! Any roads will stop rambling on as I seem to be sponsored by Kato themselves at this point with this comment 😅, Thanks so much for the awesome video and keep up the great work man!
@nighthawk9097
@nighthawk9097 3 ай бұрын
I’ve got about four Kato steam locomotives built for Japan National Railways and the quality of them is second to none. I’d highly suggest picking one or two up. If anything I’d defiantly check out the class C11 as a start to Kato steam
@joshwilliams0391
@joshwilliams0391 3 ай бұрын
You are right about the weight and the pickup design being reasons for the good running but I think the best thing is that they use Delrin for the gears which is tough but also creates very little friction. I think Kato started out by making models for Atlas in the early 1990s before going their own way and they helped to make the quality of all American N scale models much better from that point. The Kato Unitrack system is also excellent and extremely tough.
@stitchstudios2404
@stitchstudios2404 3 ай бұрын
The P42 decoder is made by digitrax the one you saw is not the one for the P42 (this is from a person who owns a P42 with DCC) 2 of these P42s can pull over 50+ cars (We ran outta cars for it to pull)
@ajohnpeters9801
@ajohnpeters9801 3 ай бұрын
The sleeper car upper winds are for the bunk that pulls down, the seat turns into a bed and the bunk pulls down for the second bed. Private room for one or two people.
@lotsatrains
@lotsatrains 3 ай бұрын
Kato is definitely top notch I love them 👍
@Bliz0516
@Bliz0516 3 ай бұрын
Kato is just phenomenal in performance. Yes they are designed, and manufactured by Kato in Japan. Every locomotive is run in at the factory. I like companies who design and manufacture. Dapol, Kato. Others like scale trains are completely engineered designed and manufactured in China. Kato does not have all the minute details was others, but they look great, run forever. The version loco you are testing is like my N700 Shinkansen. I fit the DCC in the power car, as well as lighting in all the coaches which is also DCC controlled. Works great. Kato is my preferred locomotive by far. Broadway Limited Imports also have very nicely detailed locos, they are designed in the USA, manufactured in Korea and painted in China. They use their own Paragon 4 Sound and decoder. They are a good product. Scale Trains look the best. They seem to perform, and use ESU decoders. But, they are really a Chinese loco, and I just don't have trust in the quality. Scale trains has already suffered some embarrassing QC issues. That business model is just not for me. KATO does have some limited HO offerings in the American locomotive style.
@jbhtrams
@jbhtrams Ай бұрын
If you take a look at a 1970 Minitrix class 27 or Warship diesel, they had virtually the same motor and gear set up as late 1990s Bachmann diesels, or later Hornby ones, with motors in the centre (no flywheels), two universal joints connecting to two gear towers to wheels; all wheels driven and pick-ups....Do a review on one or both. They were and are (even at a crawl) Brilliant. All this with 3-pole motors too!!!!
@farmerdave7965
@farmerdave7965 3 ай бұрын
Kato is the best. Greetings from Colorado Springs.
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