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[@artisanelectrics]

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[@SilverEagle83]

So you start the video by saying that you can’t be an electrician if you don’t have a 2,5mm allen key. But then you complain about the product, because you don’t have a normal tx10 screwdriver and a normal small flat head electronics screwdriver. Which every electrician should have in their tool arsenal 😂😂 Love from Denmark, love the videos 😁💪

[@zstation64]

Came here to say the same 🤣

[@Sparks1Plumbers0]

Me too.... that "any electrician worth his salt" comment really came back to slap him in the face when he didn't have a long shank torx driver or even a set of precision screwdrivers. Calls himself an electrician eh! .... guess that's why he also avoids his real name. Eh... Andrew 😉 "JORDAN" ... sort of name you'd have if you were a dozy tit with giant tits. Oh wait... that's right eh. 😂

[@Amped-JDS]

@@zstation64 Me too :)

[@mikaraussi8200]

Get a wera vde torque screwdriver set with excangable bits. The tapered bits are slim and fit where they need to

[@shilks8773]

He needs to get himself a set of 75mm length bits.

[@lewisreynods5358]

Every electrician should have a decent set of bits and extension bars and definitely a trimpot tool. You shouldn’t really complain if you haven’t got the tools for the job even if they are sometimes provided 👍

[@mikeclewlow6510]

Can't believe a sparky doesn't have a full set of proper torx bits. Or a slim slotted screwdriver. Maybe the manufacturer was aiming for competent installation only

[@BillyGooding]

Charges £30k to rewire a house but doesn't have proper torx bits

[@gavjlewis]

​@@BillyGooding Nick definitely has them and much more reasonably priced! 😂

[@paulevans7332]

Thats a bit unfair, they are house electricians.

[@tobysherring1369]

When you consider how much they spent on power tools - a full set for everyone.

[@thomasthetankengine2257]

They’re one of the leading electrical companies in England 😂 I’m sure Jordan knows the deal.

[@nusermane1076]

Jordan, I remember when you said: “Maybe I should put a wood plate on the wall to avoid making it a Swiss cheese“ … Well I think that was some chargers ago 😂

[@shilks8773]

THe industry should really get their act together and come us with an ISO fixing geometry.

[@jacopo.scarpellini]

I think he did take a piece of plywood from a neighbour’s skip; what happened to it Jordan?

[@nusermane1076]

@@shilks8773 VESA mountable EV chargers 😂

[@BarneySaysHi]

It looks like a giant 9 Volt Duracell battery!

[@TooMuchInfoSir]

Reminded me of Corys thumbnail when he made the water tank duracell themed 😂

[@mikaraussi8200]

Looks like a mail box to me

[@eddieMurphy11111]

I see some raw plugs in the cement between Bricks that's a big no no always drill into the brick because when you drill into cement it will come out easy, thanks for the video

[@raynulife3569]

Why don't you use long bits of the appropriate type that you need, then you don't need extension bars. that's all I use and guess what, they go in narrow places? 150mm long work the best.

[@paradieshenne]

Tx is very common here in germany (not only electrics). There are days were I use the TX more often than Pz/Ph. I use woodscrews in Tx mainly, there is no slipping at all

[@Kinnikinnick]

A bit envious here, because I love torx. Even PZ is okay, but have to work with what's available - bad PH all day.

[@danielmorgan9959]

Brilliant, the hex head is actually too

[@Midori900]

saying if you don't have a 2.5 allen wrench you not an electrician and then not having a t10 and 2.5mm flat head screwdriver

[@Lewdacris916]

LOL they should make them bigger for faster installation

[@piotrlobacz]

Clever trick by John covering pulled out cutout fuse with his hand lol

[@piotrlobacz]

​@@sunriseinisaan no it ins entire glory using quick short shots they avoid showing that clearly. Then at 2:55 John clearly holds his hand over cutout when he didn't have to.

[@g7mks383]

Shouldn't even break the seal its not his to open.

[@IanFarquharson2]

I’d have to fall back on my long Tx drivers rather than a multi bit kit, but it’s probably good feedback to make the holes a little wider.

[@jakedrums1398]

Love the new video format! Keep it up

[@jaymrree839]

I have one installed and it's great, glad you have taken them on :)

[@GoGreenAutos]

Thought it was funny you said "if you don't have a 2.5mm allen key, then you're not an electrician worth their salt", yet you didn't have the torx or smaller flat blade screwdrivers!

[@plexguy]

Love the new video quality, and the voice overs are great

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks!

[@corymac]

I have a spare torx set but you can have Jordan. Only fair after borrowing your blue PZ2 for so long.

[@blower1]

After what happened to the last 'best looking' car charger company - i think it's best to stick with well established companies with a good financial track record......unless you like having a charger that may turn into a brick when/if the company collapses or changes hands in some buy out.

[@blower1]

@Ian Louden Really - well i wouldn't touch this company with a barge pole if that is the case. I had a look through the accounts of Anderson and it never made a profit, just survived on share premiums, loans and cash injections from investors. When it flopped, it had just made a 2.5 million loss.

[@al45tair]

One nice thing about the Simpson & Partners charger, actually, is that it doesn’t rely on cloud services. It’ll work as a smart charger even without any data connection. If they go bust, the story with these is a lot better than most of the competition.

[@jackwhotton6145]

"Every decent electrician worth his salt" has a set of torx keys.... normall quite common for safety devices... also "Every decent electrician worth his salt" n has a small terminal screw driver

[@Chris_In_Texas]

I would guess you will get rid of it, because its not a tethered unit, and pluging in and unplugging the cord will be a big pain in the rear over time! 🤠👍 Does look nice as well. I am so glad our Tesla's have a little tiny connector on them! 😁

[@jordanbeech12]

Energy monitor non compliant with DNO

[@MarkUKInsects]

When are they going to do Cat6 EV Ultra? If the rest of the place is on Cat6, it's sloppy to take Cat5e into a Cat6 RJ45 Patch Panel.

[@BillsCountrysideAdventures]

Lol how much flipping data do you think a ct needs with a two pair. The terminals are same you donkey. Your 1980s bt phone line is same, uses two pairs.

[@OmairArif]

If I had to guess being that close to the power lines probably makes it hard to meet Cat6 requirements. But regardless, does it actually matter at all? No EV charger is going to exceed the bandwidth of a Cat5e cable.

[@MarkUKInsects]

@@BillsCountrysideAdventures Very little data, but Cat6 has larger conductors, so if you punch Cat5e into a Cat 6 patch panel, it will be a poor contact.

[@aardwolf21]

Cost. Current Gigabit is designed to run on Cat-5, Cat-5e is overkill, why overkill even more with Cat-6? If you are that bothered just use Cat-5e keystones in your panel......you are using a proper patch panel, not one of those home gamer rear punch things aren't you 😉😁

[@MarkUKInsects]

@@aardwolf21 Cat6 is typically only 10% more than Cat5e, and would only be a small part of the overall cost of the EV cable. No, not domestic patch panels. I suspect the way they are made they would be too fussy? keystones are not a great idea. And anyway, yes, there is sod all data on EV chargers today, but who knows in the future? I would guess that more than 95% of the Cat6 I put in is not needed, old Cat5 would more than do. But I want it future proof, as does the customer generally. When there is only a small price difference between Cat6 and Cat7a, I will put that in on new installs.

[@misstertash1701]

If an electrician doesn't have a small screwdriver for a CT terminal, is he even an electrician? If so, he is probably not worth his salt.

[@jonathanstephens7804]

lol was thinking something similar after his first comment

[@kirkhamandy]

I hate to say this but one of Cory's "tool of the day" would have got all those screws out, I know because I bought it too. Get the lad back!

[@tonywebb9909]

I think the interchangeable screwdriver sets by Wera have all those skinny Torx bits, they are the ones you hardly use that sit at the bottom of your tool box forever.

[@euroovca25]

whats the point of replacing charger that works?

[@Bierkameel]

One Wera set of long bits would solve all your problems, T10 is included.

[@Pugjamin]

Good to see that the DNO came out for you and pulled your main fuse between you isolating the charger and installing the SPD 😉😉

[@andrekidd6871]

I thought that was a No No aswell !

[@jonathanfenton]

I bet you're fun at parties

[@Pugjamin]

@@jonathanfenton it’s called a joke……. 🙄

[@jonathanfenton]

@@Pugjamin So was my tongue in cheek reply 🙂

[@justme5384]

Perhaps it was Pablo

[@jonbailes1934]

Any cowboy worth their salt would carry a Tx10 driver in their bag!

[@johnfenlon458]

Awesome other one.. Have you tried the test yet? Great teamwork! Thumbs up! Cheers!

[@cassidysystems]

We've installed these units before, the screws themselves, you can use the Wera screwdriver and it works perfectly fine for the cover and the internal cover, causes no damage to the screws and makes life a little bit easier. 😉👍

[@Bodholdt]

You need to take a look at The Charge amps Halo charger! It looks great and have the nicest charging cable you have ever felt 🥰

[@markskene8226]

Now that you are doing more solar pv and battery installs it’d be good if you could do a bit more on the charger videos about compatibility with those systems and what the can and can’t do with them and different time of day tariff. It’s not as straightforward as just, it can do solar. Even the Zappi has limitations in what is possible. i.e. you can’t stop it from diverting excess energy at certain times if your tariff makes it advantageous to actually export to the grid at that time. You’ve just got to make sure it’s not plugged in which is a bit analogue

[@jordanbeech12]

We use wera Alan keys for all the bolts. But I agree they should keep them all the same size, we gave them the same feedback

[@n0rth3rnlight]

First of all... Stunning video. Second i would love a comparison between fluke and other name brand testers.

[@nicholasriley8977]

Very pretty but you didn’t show us how it plugged into the car??

[@barrieshepherd7694]

It's a wireless connection to the car 😎

[@shadow2k197]

Having a custom cable with power and control, with them being wrapped together, do you get much interference or do you add more shielding and potentially a drain wire within?

[@martyndavies1482]

Aldi have torx and hex key sets at the moment, £4.99 each. If you suffer from tool-snob syndrome, the same are available for 3 times the price at other leading stores.

[@gordonmackenzie4512]

Can get a large set of screwdriver bits 3” long in Toolstation for a few quid, including all the useful Torx bits.

[@Ronny86_]

Not a fan if I’m honest. I think it looks like a bin 😂

[@artisanelectrics]

Really 😱

[@JohnR31415]

Or a mailbox

[@MorgenBlue]

It's a bread bin.

[@ColinRichardson]

Actually, now that You say that, it does look like those random "stub out your fag" bins you get on the side of the walls in the centre of towns..

[@CarlosArruda77]

What? It looks the part. I thought Anderson chargers were rebranded. Looks great. However, and for Mr Artisan, that wall will need new bricks soon. Lol

[@elco_os9355]

You can buy a set of torx screwdrivers in almost every DIY store (at least here in the Netherlands). I have a set of security torx screwdrivers, those have a hole in the middle of the star. Sometimes doorbell panels use these screws to prevent tampering. (Although nowadays everyone can buy such screwdrivers)

[@mattde]

Great content, and nice looking charge point! Not sure how I feel about the voice overs though.....jury is still out on that one!

[@iNNoVationX86]

Where does the cable get stored and it’s not wireless CT if you need to wire it in, it’s just remote.

[@KingMartin90]

How come you used the wireless CT clamp I thought you had cat5 cable straight from the charger ?

[@adambrammeld9286]

Simpson and partners are based just up the road from me… Nice to see what these car chargers look like… very nice 👌

[@Amped-JDS]

Love it, slags off sparks as not being sparks for not having the right tools and then doesn't even have the right tools himself. I assume you have never had to wire in a central heating pump either. A full set of Allen, Torx and Security bits that are 100mm or 150mm long is 16 quid and a must have for any tradesmen dealing with modern appliances.

[@Az88-]

Slags off people without the correct tools.. proceeds to not have correct tools for the job. Maybe you should as you say call someone “worth their salt”

[@Lewdacris916]

LOl the irony

[@darrenkellett]

Hey Jordan, you’ve had your Hypervolt longer than I have, you recommended it to me, how come your cover screws weren’t rusty? Mine were rusty after after a few weeks. Love my Hypervolt (except the rusty screws). Can’t believe you’re only just fitting EV Ultra to your own charger, you recommended and supplied mine for me. 😁😁👍

[@michaels8336]

Had my hypervolt fitted for over a year now and no rusty screws! The white cover is starting to yellow slightly though.

[@Mart67891]

Jordan, please buy a set of torx screwdrivers, it’s painful to watch you struggle with torx bits 😂

[@SuPrAmAd101]

struggles with more than just torx bits...

[@michaelgirard4445]

Wait till he comes across snake eye screws .... then he'll know about the struggle :)

[@gwil6100]

Very Nice indeed!

[@darronjknight]

Doesn't the wireless energy manager make the EV ultra redundant? Or did you run it for the charger you are fitting next week?

[@BenGillam]

Other than the gauge of the cable why is it Cat5e? Eg no shielding would the power going parallel to it not cause problems?

[@barrieshepherd7694]

No

[@marymadigan9707]

Nice work lads but Jordan I’m not a fan of it because it reminds me of a bread bin sorry 🙈🇮🇪👏😎

[@al45tair]

Why install an SPD with this charger? It has its own integrated 4.5kA surge protector. It’d also be interesting to see the shunt disconnect support wired up (it has welded contact detection and can trigger a disconnection using a shunt).

[@chode009]

I liked the old video format, ever since Corey left, seems like treading water for a new angle.

[@g7mks383]

So how much would you charge for this job if it wasn't yours? Do you hang the cable on a 6 inch nail at the side?

[@martinsutherland4810]

You seem to skip showing us testing in all recent EV charger installs! How can a lone electrician test the RCD features inside the charge point when the upstream RCD keeps tripping? When the upstream RCD trips, you have lost any status information from the charge point app etc and can't even establish what kind of fault occurred! Please can you help us by explaining how you test charge points when you always fit upstream RCDs as well. Thanks

[@ColinRichardson]

11 minute video stating how annoying it was to install, at the end "looks good, easy to install" ?? EASY TO INSTALL? Did I just watch a different minute video?

[@stephenhilton6586]

Wondering if you answer a question for me, recently had to replace my cooker switch, and the wires dont sit flush into each of the connections, what I mean by that the insulation around the copper doesn't go right up to where the screw meets the wire, so there is a bit of copper exposed on the inside of the switch, is that safe?

[@SuPrAmAd101]

no copper should be showing.

[@iLoveAppl3947]

You need to have someone coming and have a look i never take what customers says unless i check myself

[@swelectricals568]

I think you should get your wall checked with all those hole... another great video. What do you call that red bit for the cut out fuse? Looks safer than tape lol

[@g7mks383]

You don't need one because you are not suppose to open the fuse it belongs to the DNO.

[@swelectricals568]

@@g7mks383 that is correct. When you turn up to a job where mice have bitten through the insulation of the tails and no isolator I kind of have no choice. To be honest I would normally take the fuse out and replace the empty carrier.

[@michaelsevernsmith6156]

Do you only need an SPD for the charger if there isn’t one already in the consumer unit, or does the charger require it’s own dedicated SPD regardless?

[@brendon-paul]

1 SPD for the whole installation fitted at or before the main consumer unit.

[@michaelsevernsmith6156]

@@brendon-paul thanks for clarifying! 👍

[@iLoveAppl3947]

SPD is useless technically. Nothing can stand against an electrical discharge and me being and electronics engineer you would be shocked to find what's in that spd... medieval era

[@sparkyUK]

Looks nice, but where would you wrap the cable round when not in use? Do they even do a tethered version?

[@georgehorsey]

I also dislike when there are skinny recessed screws. I ended up getting a bunch of Wiha 100mm length bits.

[@buixote]

Try reaching the torx fasteners on the backside of the steering wheel in your Dodge Pickup.

[@jamieblatantsparky]

And the service fuse magically sealed its self , crazy

[@MrBobmeadows]

DNO was obviously in attendance to perform the supply fuse duties......

[@jamieblatantsparky]

@@MrBobmeadows DNO would not have allowed the change out of there isolator to a private purchase isolator with surge protection

[@Sparks1Plumbers0]

Not just the tampering with the main cut out fuse... but also the tampering with the sealed meter! Goes to show... even when waved under their noses in a video for all to see... what does the DNO or even his energy supplier do? Diddly Squat all! Can only guess as a side line Artisan offer a Meter Bypass service 😉

[@jamieblatantsparky]

@@jonathanfenton the isolator belongs to the supply company it’s is classed as the point of demarcation

[@g7mks383]

You are incorrect in your statement. Only the DNO can break there seal. Apart from in an emergency then the DNO has to reseal. Fitting yet another poncy EV point is not that.

[@timahad5165]

That's just asking for a pot of tea to placed on top of it! Or with it being Jordan some rare arabica black coffee in a China mug

[@_kj2]

Looks nice but plugging your cable in is a pain. Why is the port at the bottom?

[@matthewmcmullan9669]

Why are they always wifi and not a solid wired connection to your network out of curiosity?

[@mikescott4008]

Is that a Rng Elite doorbell over PoE?

[@morganjones6753]

Where do you keep the cable?

[@Jordd3041]

It’s un-tethered

[@aaronmdjones]

The car boot.

[@99rattle]

Can't you tell Jordan has got more money than he know's what to do with it !! :)

[@jjgriffy92]

Wera do a set of Torx drivers

[@Bjorn-Del]

Try a Smappee EV Wall, also beautiful 😊

[@gavjlewis]

Not really a fan if I'm honest. Also how well will that wood hold up when it's covered in bird poo?

[@JasonEDragon]

It is a waste to cut and replace a cable that is at most a couple years old. And to keep drilling into that brick? Brick and mortar isn't the easiest material to replace and have a good color match if the need arises in the future.

[@zorot3876]

I winced every time Jordan drilled into a facing brick instead of the mortar line which was often very close.

[@blower1]

I always avoid the mortar line, from experience - mortar can crumble and not hold the wall plug securely, resulting in it loosing grip and spinning. Doesn't always happen and depends on how good the mortar is. This is especially the case when you come to remove something, i have had many occasions where the mortar gives way and just leaves a massive hole upon removing the screw.

[@zorot3876]

@@blower1 Agree but not on my own house. I would rather use a resin anchor than drill stone or facing brick.

[@jamieblatantsparky]

Pulling the service fuse ? What’s the crack with that .

[@Sparks1Plumbers0]

He's a KZbin Star.... as such he can do as he pleases. Also Jordan is not his actual name so the chances of a DNO/Energy Supplier ever tracking him down are virtually zero. 😉 And anyway... they'd need evidence of him tampering with the cutout or meter and where are they going to find that eh? 🤣🤣🤣

[@JamesScholesUK]

"I know what you're thinking: was that 6 different screwdriver heads in one charger, or only 5? Well in all the excitement, I kinda lost count..."

[@artisanelectrics]

😂

[@SteveNail]

Happy Haircut John 😛👍

[@Evasion1982]

Gengar rocks!

[@superfireflyguy2054]

Ah .... so that's what you were recording when I walked past the other day!

[@MrSkeedle]

that cable isnt SWA? im confused... can someone explain?

[@mickbitchum4664]

It's hi-tuff ... no steel armouring

[@Cogan1]

Not being tethered would actually wreck my head. So does it actually light up? That wasn't shown

[@4211234]

wait you dont use tx in britain?

[@jonathanhasmail]

Your landlord is going to love billing you for turning that section of wall into Swiss cheese… IIRC there was a TX10 driver and small flat bit driver in the 2021 Wera advent calendar, if not, every too store would be able to sell you appropriate sized drivers without resorting to 1/4” bits and extensions. Perhaps you’ve been away from the tools for too long.

[@aovideos3268]

“Quick babe Artisan has posted another video!”

[@cedard5388]

Smart, but all I’m seeing is a 9V Duracell battery

[@steve11211]

Haha, now you have said this thats all I see, seems very cheap, just because it has some wood or wood effect, 1990's Rovers had wood effect on their dash, I dont consider them to be high end.. Would rather get a charger from a company that has been around a while like the zappi, we all know what happened to the last charger Jordan recommended as a high end charger..

[@BrianG61UK]

Why strap the poor antenna to a big lump of mains cable? Do you not want it to work well?

[@JonathanCooperGB]

Curious how long the directors stick with this brand after moving on from Andersen. Are they in it for the long haul this time? What happened to their previous brand - looks like they're still going!

[@okr502]

I mean they have put their surname on it this time if that's any indication

[@nosnim2207]

The cable with the Cat5/6 included inside with electrical wiring... isn't there interference from running it in parallel? And also potential for induction (induced voltage in the internet cable)?

[@farmersteve129]

The data cable is mostly just used for the CT connections which is just low voltage analogue rather than data. Aside from that,the twist of the core pairs is such that crosstalk and induced voltages are kept to a minimum.

[@barrieshepherd7694]

​@@farmersteve129 ....and the current imbalance between line and neutral should be zero minimising the magnetic field around the power cables.

[@99rattle]

Ev ultra cable ?..when wifi ? My bad ... spos it'll be changed again it a short while :)

[@dalemorgan1685]

I prefer tethered devices personally. Looks nice though

[@matthewthomas6121]

Tethered units are available from S&P

[@B0jangle5]

No footage of the charger in use?

[@jeffcartwright7270]

Have you lost your ferule crimping kit Jordan ? 🤣.

[@petertallowin6406]

It's the Miller and Carter of the EVCP world. It seems like it was designed by an architect or somebody of similar 'who gives a smeg how to install it, doesn't it look great' ethos. Perhaps they used to work for NEXT designing pain in the arse light fittings.

[@shilks8773]

Seems like number of the Simson crew are ex of Anderson.

[@RobDucharme]

4:25 Haha, no way... You're using that tool from Dragons Den UK. That's cool. I thought that guy made something special and Peter Jones, who has obviously never mounted anything other than the opposite sex, thought you could just use a pencil or a sharpie. As someone who HAS had to mark a spot through a hole, I can promise him that you're never guaranteed to be marking dead centre that way. This tool appears to be the solution, and there it is right there!

[@Matt-nd2cu]

Do you really not open the box and check the installation requirements before having a crack at it?

[@alanpalmer3013]

Seems your clips are drifting more to selling a product than the service or fault finding

[@terry.hudson]

Yep, like the voice over styles 👌

[@TheUppladdning]

Easee charger has a wireless Energy manager