Trying ShiftCam Lenses on the iPhone 15 Pro Max

[@spartanmediaworks]

sometimes I like to watch reviews that have a lot of clever editing and humor other times I like to get down to business and get the facts with direct comparisons and clear footage and concise opinions… when I want the latter, I check your reviews. Great job!

[@iphoneographers]

Thanks!

[@wrighty338]

the 1.33 is noticeably sharper edge to edge than the 1.55, but you cant go super wide without too much softening. It would be a tough call between the shiftcam and beastgrip anamorphic

[@alternativechannel21]

I just hope the youtubers will be honest with their reviews of the products they promote so the people will trust you.

[@LouisLuzuka]

That intro sequence was insane 😮

[@romanwilliams9138]

Thanks for the quick response. I didn’t have the lens connect to the main camera… Thanks

[@iPhoneGamer247]

The telephoto and wide angle lens are shipped and i should be getting them on Monday. Really hoping the telephoto edge softness is just a case by case issue and not all of them. How did these compare to your previous ones which i assume where their test/model lens?

[@iphoneographers]

It’s possible. But they seem about the same, although they are all sharp edge to edge on the 14 Pro series phones. Seems the telephotos are giving all lens brands some issues.

[@iPhoneGamer247]

@@iphoneographers just got mine and both the telephoto and wide angle are worst than the iphone lens. Also the telephoto lens removed the iPhone's ability to convert normal photo to portrait photos. Have you tested this also? I'm guessing it messes with the phones depth of field

[@johnfrasier2638]

@@iPhoneGamer247 Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the lenses cover the iPhone’s lidar sensor which the iPhone uses to calculate the DoF it adds digitally.

[@iPhoneGamer247]

@@johnfrasier2638the case has cutout for both the LiDAR and mic. Hoping to upload a quick review later.

[@iphoneographers]

@johnfrasier2638 You don’t use lenses when shooting Cinematic mode. You can use an anamorphic, but it’s an experimental look for the most part. I did a video about it… kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHapg5-DYrmEjZIsi=NqIEtnREeDqxut4H

[@LouisLuzuka]

Been waiting on this 😮

[@dariuszkowalski5799]

there should be roll for zoom, that will be much more useful

[@ThomasBrunkard]

Blake, I hope when you do the inevitable comparison of cages for iPhone 15 Pro series that you absolutely nail some of these manufacturers to a figurative cross for their diversity of mount standards both for lenses and filters. I got the Smallrig cage which comes with an M Mount backplate - a defunct fitting for lenses but for filters I sprung for their 67mm adapter - which is only for magnetic filters. Of course, there are no such filters to be bought anywhere and adapting one of the many filters I have accrued over the years to be magnetised is not simple either. Indeed, their whole system is designed to lock you in to their own brand filters which are practically unobtainable. If you're doing that round up, props are certainly due to Ulanzi who ship with a 67mm filter filter adapter (but just a 17mm lens adapter). It's a better solution by far I think and I'll have one on Monday. Ultimately based on this and diversity of mounts it looks like Beastgrip will win this year in the Cage Wars as they've got everything covered. Rant ends.

[@iphoneographers]

Yeah it can be frustrating for sure! The Moondog Labs multi camera filter mount work with M mount, so that’s an option I use on cages to add tradition ND.

[@ThomasBrunkard]

@@iphoneographers hopefully they’re minded to make an iPhone 15 edition. Looking forward to super gluing a step up ring into the Smallrig one tomorrow 🤣

[@toNtheGamer]

Hello, may I get to know if you experience some red flare issue when using 60mm telephoto lens at indoor low light condition? It's quite severe for mine, so I'd love to learn about any similar cases. Thank you for reading my comment.

[@sammyfuentes2561]

What I can fine is the cover fo my 13 pro max so I can use the lends

[@JarradShaw]

So Blake, are our 3 companies for decent everyday case/camera options Polar Pro, Freewell, and Shiftcam?

[@iPhone-Cinematograhy]

Brilliant, thank you for posting. Love your channel! I'll post the link for iPhoneographers on my website!

[@iphoneographers]

Thanks for watching!

[@swoiwode]

I got this set too. I’d really like a way to attach a filter to the wide and tele lens. Otherwise very happy with them. Thanks for the video.

[@iphoneographers]

The kit I got came with a VND and CPL filter, I just didn’t use them in the video.

[@swoiwode]

@@iphoneographers I got the same filters. I’d just like to use my Hoya R72 with the lens. Thanks for the reply

[@moviemarathon1680]

would be great if you compared different lens brands ?

[@pdcorlis]

Thanks for doing these lens comparisons - very valuable info here. One question, did you use ND filters on any of these lens tests?

[@iphoneographers]

No, I purposely left them off so as to not “degrade” the image. Thanks for watching!

[@DominicPettifer]

@@iphoneographers I'm curious what you mean by degrade the image? Is there an issue with Shiftcam's ND filters, or with using ND filters in general?

[@iphoneographers]

Adding filters can soften the image some and occasionally vignette too. Nothing wrong with their filters, just a general point.

[@TheWhiskyExplorer]

Can you still use the iPhone 15 Pro autofocus with a lens attached?

[@iphoneographers]

Yes definitely

[@rogeriogomesosorio4755]

I’m sorry, but, for me, none of the images look that great… also, with the shifcam grip it seems that there’s no way to connect the ssd drive

[@WargodFilms]

You can put the ssd up top in place of a light or mic with the ssd holder from smallrig its ways to make it work

[@iphoneographers]

How so? The two lenses are especially are very clean and are comparable to every other new lens offering.

[@EXOCREATOR_]

@@iphoneographersThere are other cages compatible with the Shiftcam lenses? Are the Smallrig?

[@alexv8203]

Does the tele work on the 3x on 15 or 14 pro?

[@jerclarkedotorg]

Yes. Others tested it. Works on 3x but not 5x.

[@iphoneographers]

As mentioned above… 5x is a no go. 3x works.

[@yuongsiangloy2637]

Hi, just wondering if you can get the 60mm tele to work with the 5 x tele lens on the iphone? I tried to use the macro and the 60mm on the tele lens mount, hoping to get a 10x optical zoom and a super macro.. neither works

[@iphoneographers]

Nope! Not finding any that work yet.

[@romanwilliams9138]

When I attach my 60mm lenses I see the back of the lens hood in my viewfinder. How do I correct this problem so I can use this lens?

[@iphoneographers]

Are you seeing a vignette? Dark edges/corners? Make sure you’re putting the lens on the main camera and then also use a third-party app like Blackmagic so you can force the phone to use that camera. The native camera app can auto switch and combine the cameras while shooting (and go into Macro mode too) and you’ll see the edges of the external lens.

[@michaeljenner1795]

Why do they call this a ShiftCam when it doesn't appear to do a shift? That's what I'm looking for, an attachment to give me the ability to shift the lens up and down to get a vertical building, 2.5 stories, from about 12 feet away in an alley without distortion.

[@tuanofakind]

What value do you set your bitrate when exporting 4K videos ? I'm not sure but your videos look a little soft on my screen, and I can't see the details and the full potential of the lenses and of Blackmagic + ProRes. I know this video was shot with FiLMiC Pro, but from what I've heard, wasn't Blackmagic + ProRes the way to go compared to FiLMiC in terms of detail and bitrate ? (please do correct me if I'm wrong) I also got that impression even on your other recent videos shot with Blackmagic and ProRes. Could you enlighten me please ? Thank you 😊

[@iphoneographers]

I typically use the recommended 50Mbps. But KZbin definitely compresses the video. There’s no bitrate difference shooting with Filmic Pro or Blackmagic if shooting ProRes. If shooting HEVC or H.264 you can choose the rate and I almost always go with the highest.

[@tuanofakind]

@@iphoneographers Thank you for your response. Do you think KZbin made their compression more agressive more or less recently or has it always been that bad ? I'm only starting to notice it recently even on 4K videos (it's been bad for 1080p vids already for quite a long time)

[@dialogandointerculturalmente]

It 's seeems it mount close the conection to mics, charge, ssd..... it 's the mount of free well gear seems better

[@LouisLuzuka]

Is there a way to mount a ssd for the pro grip? 😊

[@iphoneographers]

Maybe, but I see it as more of an EDC device and not a robust filmmaking cage setup. But it’s definitely nice.

[@antonioroccabianca777]

Sorry I did not understand, 60 mm is not working on IPhone 15 pro max ? Thanks for your answer

[@LouisLuzuka]

Soft on the edges at 1x and on the 5x it doesn’t work 😢

[@iphoneographers]

Subtle edge softness on the 15 Pro Max that isn’t noticeable on every shot, so it works ok with that caveat. I had to zoom in and pixel peep to really see it.

[@jw-lk1pe]

@@iphoneographers60mm does NOT work in Portrait mode

[@professionalyoutubecomment7272]

You published your KZbin video in 2160p but your video samples are shot in 1080p, why?

[@iphoneographers]

Everything was shot in 4K 24fps.

[@jaymills1720]

How’s this compared to sherpa

[@iphoneographers]

I’ll be doing a comparison video soon, but they’re similar - but Sherpa doesn’t have a telephoto yet (I think they’re working to get it right with no edge softness).

[@MR-AK]

I bought their case and lens and it FELL apart. Lens casing came out and lens popped. Now they are charging me 20% stocking fee. Worst company ever!

[@yifkong]

I went all in with Moment and their first anamorphic…huge regret. All these case + lens combos are bulky, ultimately degrade the image, too heavy for stabilizers, at the end of the day you don’t need them. Use stock and crop in post.

[@iphoneographers]

Lenses are great if you want different looks while using the main and best 48MP camera. When you use the other cameras it degrades the image, but for everyday stuff it’s totally fine.

[@JayDeeTee]

More than 1000 bucks? Holy crap

[@iphoneographers]

That’s for the everything kit. You can get individual stuff for much much less.

[@TraderAndy-uc2uh]

I am so disappointed as DJI osmo mobile 6 cant handle Iphone 15 pro max + shiftcam casing + ultralens wide lens or other lens = too heavy

[@DominicPettifer]

I had this same problem and upgraded to a Hohem iSteady M6, unfortunately it still has issues with the weight of these lenses (the plastic arms flex slightly under the increased weight creating bouncy like footage). Thinking of getting the DJI RS 3 Mini.

[@TraderAndy-uc2uh]

@@DominicPettifer DJI RS 3 mini should be able to handle it

[@American.Divergent]

I hate that I have to zoom in at least 1.5x and even then my 15 pro max still switches from lens to lens.

[@iphoneographers]

Try using a third-party app like Blackmagic to lock the lens/camera choice.

[@LouisLuzuka]

So no tele on tele 😢

[@iphoneographers]

Nope!

[@heritagetourswexford]

Why don’t you ship orders so I can find out how your gear works. Seems you have let a lot of people down.

[@iphoneographers]

FYI, we don’t ship orders and aren’t affiliated with any brands.

[@heritagetourswexford]

@@iphoneographers sorry yes I know. I ment to post this for the attention of @Shiftcam and not for you personally. Its just you and other influencers on youtube have received their gear to test and promote and the company itself are still promoting their products but are not fulfilling orders. I've discovered since I forked out over €600 in October that many others are also waiting months for their orders.

[@iphoneographers]

Hope you get them soon! I’ve heard from others they are being shipped & received.

[@ronanreilly3154]

Same for me, bought over 700 euro worth of products almost 90 days ago. They are ghosting me now and won’t answer any of my emails. I’ve no idea if I will get my order or my money back it’s horrendous.

[@johnfrasier2638]

Same here. I recently ordered 3 lenses and the Progrip, but now I’m seeing all of the people having customer service issues and the delays getting orders. My Progrip order placed in November has shipped, but has been stuck in Los Angeles for the past several days. My lens order placed on December 1 hasn’t even been fulfilled yet. It seems like Shiftcam is spending lots of money on ads and using their resources to get influencers to make videos about their lenses. However, Shiftcam doesn’t appear to be interested in fixing their supply chain or customer service issues. A little transparency and good communication would help a lot. Thank you, @iPhonegraphers for creating an informative and helpful video.

[@bazlur-Vancouver]

Too bright the video. needs ND filter

[@iphoneographers]

That’s not how ND works. The images are correctly exposed.

[@jerclarkedotorg]

60mm looks awful here. Too bad, so much worse than prototype models. Lens flares looked pretty bad too, lots of complaints that they ruin the lens.

[@iphoneographers]

It works perfectly on the 14 Pro Max, so it’s just the newer 15 PM sensor is slightly different and bigger and it’s causing some edge softness. It seems this is a problem on every brand’s telephoto.

[@jerclarkedotorg]

@@iphoneographers You tested the new lens with the 14 Pro? The main lens is supposed to be almost exactly the same, so it seems really surprising if it behaves that differently.

[@iPhoneGamer247]

Agree with this 60mm is pretty bad. I just got mine :( Wide angle was also bad

[@SabrinaVideo]

Design for photographers. I hate brands forget VIDEO. Chinese lens quality products, American design and Branded. NO. Aliexpress is plenty of that quality without paying extra

[@jw-lk1pe]

the 60mm lens is awful. It's NOT sharp. It has a reddish lens flare that shows up in most photos. It does not work in Portrait Mode.

[@iphoneographers]

Do any lenses work in portrait mode? I don’t think they do. Or at least not properly.

[@jw-lk1pe]

@@iphoneographers haven't tried any others, but I find it weird that nobody mentions it

[@MR-AK]

Don't buy this product. Poor quality inside of high end packaging