Trying SystemD FREE Distros

[@yigitorhan7654]

I think void is probably the best of the bunch. Being independent means it's not a "tear out systemd and hope it works" distro.( Though those distros can also work well, especially for people that are used to the parent distro.) And once you install vpm, the package manager syntax becomes similar to the likes of apt and dnf.

[@replikvltyoutube3727]

I was impressed to see void have good support a not bad following

[@yigitorhan7654]

​@@replikvltyoutube37272hu fan I see.

[@cheebadigga4092]

Been using Void for many years now, I'll never go back to another distro on the Desktop. Technically I could use it as a server too, but Debian 12 + Docker/Kubernetes is such a great match for that so I won't change it.

[@mkonjii]

Void is so good, been using it as my primary OS for about 8 years or so now. I used Debian as my development box for several years but after it started having issues that me attempting to fix making it worse so I went ahead and switched it to void too. Love every bit of it.

[@juipeltje]

Void is great. I've been using it for almost 6 months now. At the moment i'm going down the rabbithole by trying to write some templates for xbps-src (similar to arch pkgbuikd). The documentation is a bit overwhelming lol.

[@JackBender]

Got Chimera Linux installed on aarch64 / ppc64 / ppc64le / riscv64 inside QEMU machines just two weeks ago for the purpose of having a few more headless build targets. My experience with the installation process was a blast: worked on first try despite the specificities of partioning for PowerPC machines, online documentation was clear and straightforward. If no distro so far made you perform a CLI-only install of an OS, then Chimera Linux can be a relevant introduction to the subject. Installation difficulty is lower than that of Arch or Gentoo, but higher than Alpine. Just follow the documentation and you'll be fine.

[@WilliamBrwn]

I tried Mercury and applied all privacy settings. It is working great for me!

[@Gav2001]

Devuan does have a minimal installer iso. It looks similar to Debian’s installer and differs from the live iso.

[@teapulp]

Devuan has the same type of netinstall disc as Debian, man. It doesn't "come with GNOME" - you pick which DE you want, or none at all, like the normal Debian netinstall. Also - "Dev-wan" or "Dev-you-an" :-)

[@mrbrklyn]

also instead of rebooting you can mount : The command mount -a [-t type] [-O optlist] (usually given in a bootscript) causes all filesystems mentioned in fstab (of the proper type and/or having or not having the proper options) to be mounted as indicated, except for those whose line contains the noauto keyword. Adding the -F option will make mount fork, so that the filesystems are mounted in parallel.

[@jpwillm5252]

I have installed Artix Linux on different PCs since 2019: these machines still work very well and are constantly up to date. The ISOs are recent and regularly updated:

[@msx94]

I have a problem with the system time on Artix. It won't synchronize automatically. Can you give me an advice to fix that? Cheers

[@jpwillm5252]

​@@msx94 Hello, I recently helped someone on the Artix forum (12 May 2024, 05:33:42) with setting the clock: how sync bios time with xfce time? First set the time to be within the 1000 seconds range: sudo date -s Example: sudo date -s 09:31:59 Then to set the time online: sudo ntpd -q ************** To start the service on openrc: sudo pacman -S ntp-openrc sudo rc-service ntp-client start sudo rc-update add ntp-client default

[@jpwillm5252]

@@msx94 Hello, I recently helped someone on the Artix forum (may 12/2024with setting the clock: how sync bios time with xfce time? First set the time to be within the 1000 seconds range: sudo date -s Example: sudo date -s 09:31:59 Then to set the time online: sudo ntpd -q ************** To start the service on openrc: sudo pacman -S ntp-openrc sudo rc-service ntp-client start sudo rc-update add ntp-client default

[@jpwillm5252]

@@msx94 Hello, First set the time to be within the 1000 seconds range: sudo date -s hh:mm:ss First set the time to be within the 1000 seconds range: sudo date -s hh:mm:ss ** To start this service on OpenRC: sudo pacman -S ntp-openrc sudo rc-service ntp-client start sudo rc-update add ntp-client default

[@jpwillm5252]

@@msx94 Hello, I tried to answer you, but KZbin refuses texts containing commands and links... On May 12, 2024 on the Artix forum, under the nickname tintin, I helped someone set the clock. Subject: how to sync bios time with xfce time? Really sorry I can't tell you more here. 😕

[@UltraZelda64]

You downloaded Devuan's equavalent to Debian's live-standard (no GUI) live CD ISO. What you needed was the Devuan netinstall, server CD or desktop DVD. Any of those three discs would have given you the debian-installer and you could go from there just like any official Debian media. Edit: According to the website, you can actually run the refractainstaller from that minimal/CLI live CD to install to disk. That I didn't actually know. The Refracta installer... works, but I'll take the debian-installer any day.

[@mikkolukas]

... but completely not even mentioning Slackware, which is the oldest, still maintained, non-systemd distro o.O edit: oh, but of course you actually did in the end. Cudos! ( 2:18:05 )

[@Skelterbane69]

Based slacker.

[@pcallycat9043]

‘shutdown -r now’ works just fine on just about every init system (even ‘I can do it better’-systemd. Just a heads up for the next time reboot gets elusive

[@neamupanselutelor7309]

Clicked on the video to see Devuan...

[@RedbeardyMcGee]

I'm dying to see when you figure out to install base and base-devel, the literal first packages of any arch install.

[@missclick6597]

Sorry maybe dumb question but what font do u use in your browser? It look quite good and i cant find anything like that

[@stevelavoie9088]

Debian without system D is DEVUAN!!!

[@tylerdback2025]

1:35 - It's because Neovim IS the best text editor ever

[@dougtilaran3496]

GEANY

[@mrbrklyn]

You mounted the partition under /boot instead of /boot/efi - and I am surprised that worked. It is not good because the kernel is on vfat.

[@RazoBeckett.]

I am on debian stable rn, maybe i will try Artix someday with runit i guess

[@X_Otman]

If you never used arch then you should install it trust me is the best of the Linux world I used to be a Debian user: Ubuntu user:fedora user , nothing like arch

[@nickde3739]

where void

[@muddyexport5639]

Did I miss the chmod to put Titus as the owner of all in ~ ?

[@brandonphilander661]

Iglunix.

[@comesignotus9888]

FreeBSD - when? ;)

[@mikaelrask]

what extension do you use Chris to add to your to do list in thorium browser?

[@acrodrigues1]

Dinit is the same init that is on chimera linux.

[@happylinuxguy]

Even with a minimalistic distro, they should make the basic installer. Having to do all that, just to have a base system is a bit ridiculous.

[@somesalmon5694]

My beard hasent gotten any longer 😤😤

[@Couleur]

isn't 3dpchip just another Snappy Driver Installer Origin?

[@mpsii]

What is the new tab extension you are using?

[@RandomGeometryDashStuff]

02:00:32 username doesn't matter, user id matters

[@Couleur]

what is opi? could not find it in the aur/arch packages

[@yigitorhan7654]

It's an OpenSUSE thing.

[@pcallycat9043]

i get a kick out of anyone snagging a 'minimal' iso of anything debian based and expecting to have a good user experiance.

[@zvellblade6821]

2:41:03 music please?

[@uMalice]

Dev -One

[@tailsorange2872]

System-D-less distributions could be a viable option if it's not so cumbersome in the set up process....

[@FatherlyFox]

SystemD-free distros are viable (Alpine, Gentoo, etc...) but there are so many programs that rely on SystemD as their core that, a) workaround patches need to be applied to allow for a non-SystemD distro to use said programs and b) they're, imho, more likely to cause technical debt for the end user if they have to manually create their own bootscripts that are system-wide vs the choice of a SystemD-unit that can be enabled at either the user or system level. The one thing I really hate about SystemD though is the lack of coherent documentation for intermediate/advanced users. For example, we have SystemD-NetworkD but it has no graphical counterpart like NetworkManager/Wicked/connman/etc... so there isn't a good reliable way to manage it without opening a text editor and creating various files for NetDev, Link, and Network. Personally, I'm a enjoyer of SystemD more than OpenRC/Sysinit/runit/etc because of the simplicity of service configuration but other than that, it is lackluster tbh.

[@cheebadigga4092]

cumbersome how? running Void no problem here

[@juipeltje]

Do you mean as in a linux mint type of experience with a gui installer and such? Cause while it's not really anything fancy, the ncurses installer for void is pretty easy to use. I say that coming from vanilla arch though.

[@konradkoeppe2840]

Use nothing but non system d distros and don't have the problems Chris is having. Somethings wrong....

[@cheebadigga4092]

@@konradkoeppe2840 me too

[@night_h4nter]

why do you keep calling devuan duvian? devuan can be derrible af, but it at least deserves to be spelled correctly

[@somesalmon5694]

Alao it's pronounced as dev-wan

[@dougtilaran3496]

ANTIX

[@raychak1]

std