Trying to Explain Craftworld Eldar Without Getting Angry

[@TheBoneZone40k]

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[@holstatt6896]

Bro, Gaza is a crater due to israeli genocide and you go and take money covered in palestinian blood? Plarium has such a good spot in tech because of Israeli colonialism of Palestinian lands. What the fuck is wrong with you?

[@memesofwarhemmer7076]

The doom of malantai is still canon in the new tyranids codex the zoanthrope is revealed to be made from its genetic material

[@Prophetofthe8thLegion]

I fuckin hate elves.

[@SuperBeautifulNoise]

NO.

[@cujemi55]

you cant just steal count dankula's raid shadow legends bit like that bro

[@PeachDragon_]

>shows up >"You fool you must stop" >You ask why >Refuse to elaborate >"That's it mon'kay, you leave me no choice" >Tries to fight you, dies >"You ignorant savage you don't know what you've done" Ah yes, the eldar trying to help

[@chrissheffield5468]

Every. Damn. Time.

[@theodoremccarthy4438]

It’s painful how true this is, but in fairness to the Eldar it’s not their fault. It’s the fault of shitty BL writers. I like to think that somewhere in the 40K galaxy there’s a craftworld that’d doing just peachy because their farseers know how to communicate effectively and have spent millennia building up a network of alliances with imperial officials spanning an entire sector.

[@Eyeshield11721]

That’s just bad writing. Blame Gav Thorpe/GW or whoever for, well, everything lol

[@hgjjui8159]

You and pancreasnowork need to have a match, a guy that hates the knife eared and a xeno loving heretic

[@thefuturist1867]

Yes,a Grudge has been created

[@hgjjui8159]

Hate is the greatest gift given to us by the emperor

[@austinjohnson6642]

They'd be cussing each other out within 3min lol

[@diamondhamster4320]

Humans are xenos too to other races of the Universe, mate.

[@subterraneandirtybomb]

they need to do a vs episode on LoreCrimes

[@EmonWBKstudios]

Tolerates the dark eldar, loves the night lords, you're edgier than a knife ear.

[@dr.stronk9857]

The night lord books are amazing and likely the number 1 reason people convert into night lord fans (including me)

[@stoops187]

@@dr.stronk9857 that’s what turned me into a Night Lord fan as well

[@vincentcrow6075]

not all of them@@dr.stronk9857

[@TabukiJones]

​@@dr.stronk9857LFG!!!! 🦇

[@PeachDragon_]

You like the dark eldar because of the edge, I'm just horny

[@theodorehodbor5080]

One thing I will never understand about Craftworlds is how on more than one occasion a craftworld was either attacked or almost attacked by a Tyranid hive fleet when: 1. Tyranids are *the* slowest FTL users to the point some hive fleets have literally starved to death while in transit 2. Eldar psychics should be able to detect the big fuck-off Shadow in the Warp coming a million light years away 3. Craftworlds are ships so they can literally just *move out of the goddamn way.* My only plausible explanation is whoever is flying those things must just be like constantly drinking at the wheel or something.

[@gavinboyer4634]

Counterpoint, I don't think they can. I think the craftworlds are two big to enter the webway, and I'm pretty sure entering the warp is a big no-no when Slaanesh is unreasonably vigilant.

[@bengonzalez5215]

Also they could have come out of the warp way too close to a hive fleet to properly evade? That is also a possibility.

[@theodorehodbor5080]

@@gavinboyer4634 Craftworlds can enter the webway, however only at specific gates large enough to pass them through, so you are right in that they're more limited in terms of other Eldar ships. However, counter to that is Tyranid FTL fucking sucks in that it is probably *the* most cumbersome and slow form of FTL in the setting. Tyranid Narvhals use the gravity of stars to open gravity-well corridors that allow the fleet to travel at FTL through bending spacetime itself, however while "FTL" this is probably the slowest form of FTL possible in that it takes months to basically reach any destination. Along with that their course cannot be changed while in this corridor outside of dropping out early and once at a system they have to drop out at the very edge of it and go at sublight from there. This is even worse in that it's also stated that Tyranid sublight speed is even more slow in comparison in that it takes literally years to go from the edge of a system to a target planet. While rebellions are a nice bonus this is probably *the* main reason why Genestealer cults exist, without them to act as a guiding light there's a good chance a hive fleet could spend almost a decade getting to a system just to find it barren and starve to death as a result. Pretty much the only way humans keep getting caught by Tyranids is that they're stuck on stationary objects, the Administratum is even slower than Tyranid FTL, and the Shadow in the Warp extends light-years ahead of the fleet itself and stops all warp travel preemptively.

[@gavinboyer4634]

@@theodorehodbor5080 still faster than sublight speeds.

[@frostyelkk]

Isn't the whole point of the shadow that psychic shenanaganery doesn't apply ? So they wouldn't be able to see it coming, since they wouldn't be able to perceive it through the warp.

[@CantusTropus]

My favourite example of Eldar perfidy is from the second Battlefleet Gothic videogame. If you ally with the Eldar, they ask for your help defending a Craftworld against the Inquisition. After this, they terminate the alliance because they technically helped you in a battle (that you fought on their behalf), and they never said anything about how long the alliance would last. This is after you fight a Chaos fleet to steal back an ancient relic for them, by the way. At least it stops Eldar raids for the rest of the campaign, but still.

[@BovineDesigns]

I actually burst out laughing when you said "Shuriken Catapult". That is the most 80's action figure accessory name for a weapon I have ever heard in my life.

[@Haispawner]

Eldar are full of stupid bullshit like that and I love them. It's why I like 40k.

[@GammaCyber1]

As an Eldar fan, my honest answer for so much of the Eldar suckage is that Gav Thorpe keeps fucking up their writing and he's rumored to basically prevent other people from working on them. Have fun with him doing the Votann book!

[@EVER_PRINCE]

Wtf? No way?

[@jonahulichny9874]

As a votann player, knowing that sucks.

[@RobotTanuki]

I haven't read anything else by Gav Thorpe, but I listened to three audiobook by him and one by a different author, and the ones by Gav Thorpes were the least interesting. They were all, without fail, drawn out, pretentious, dealing with psychic and immaterial mumbo-jumbo and all characters talk the same because they are all elves with no emotions (even if the author SAY they feel an emotion). I started playing Eldar recently but their fiction is sooooo terrible.

[@wernerfuhry]

I honestly think GT is a little bit overrated

[@DemigodoftheSea]

​@@RobotTanuki Honestly as time goes on, I desperately just think they need to acknowledge the Eldar had emotions, and feelings, and can be decent people with empathy towards the other races. Just like how they acknowledged _sometimes_ the Imperium will cooperate with Xenos. And past that, they need to give Craftworlds their own minor goals, and a reason to exist and not just fuck off to the far ends of the galaxy and only emerge when they need soul stones. Even if that reason is just recognizing Chaos is the biggest threat and thus cooperating with other races, or being tied, in some way, to certain maiden worlds instead of the vague "The Maiden Worlds are in trouble!", and thus give them a proper anchor to the setting. And to make it even better; intertwine leadership with outside forces. Tie the Eldar into Rogue Trader Dynasties or Inquisitorial conspiracies. The Craftworlds themselves don't need to appear so long as you have cool named characters who go out and do shit in spite of that, and then the Craftworlds don't need to show up when shit gets real.

[@imotekh6110]

You and PancreasNoWork need to make a video together your contradicting hatred combined will either make the perfect Eldar opinion or we get a fist fight to watch

[@subterraneandirtybomb]

It’s like chess boxing but they argue for 3 minutes each and then do a 3 minute round of boxing

[@WolfT33]

Fun fact about the Howling Banshees: In Eldar mythology, they were initially the daughters of Morai-Heg (eldar crone godess and wife of Khaine if I'm not mistaken) however at some point Heg wanted to drink her own blood cuz it made whoever drak it wiser but only one god could harm other gods and it was Khaine As such she sent her Banshiees to pester and annoy Khaine to cut her hand off and when he ultimatley did so she just gave 'em to him as thanks It's a stupid, convoluted, and weirdly metal bit of lore that I just adore and screams 40k to me

[@WolfT33]

Also bashees (as in the creatures not the aspect) in Eldar folklore are said to be able to lure out an Eldar's soul out from a spirit stone and vulnerable to Chaos stuff, hence why the banshiees are also kinda feared by other Eldar

[@KamenRiderGreed]

Here's the TLDR for those who don't want to read my Space Elf essay: I like the Craftworld Eldar. I dont love all of them. But I love parts of them. "The Fall" as a central story hook for their faction and their struggle that comes from it are my favorite parts of their lore. Plus I think that Aspect Warriors and Phoenix Lords are dope AF. But they have flaws, their stuck-up know-it-all attitude can really put people off and make them unlikable for some. Now for the long version. Let me preface my opinions and evidence with this: I havent consumed much 40K fiction as of yet. I have only owned two White Dwarfs in my lifetime to get ahold of rules supplaments. And alot of my 40K lore knowledge comes from videos and content like this. Basically, I'm not a 40K lore expert, and *maybe* what I'm about to say has some inconsistencies to it with where the faction is lore-wise currently. I will also not be talking about their Tabletop mechanics. Not liking a faction because you dont like their lore is different to not liking them because GW gives them busted rules as incentive to sell their aging sculpts. But with all that being said, its time to start Elf-splaining: I like "The Fall of the Eldar". I like what it represents in the lore not only to the Eldar factions but also basically every other faction in the setting. The Eldar *created* a Chaos God, one that then proceeded to devour most of their species and continues to hound them all until they are all devoured to their last. Now they are a dying race, the last dregs of an empire killed overnight by their own hubris. Something like that changes you, your culture, your very world. And an event that cataclysmic will have the survivors all reacting differently. The Craftworld Eldar reacted by going in as far of the opposite direction as the reasonably could. They lead lives of strict discipline because they dont want to risk the influence of Slaanesh, or squandering what they see as a chance at redemption for their people. The point is that they have gone to the *exact opposite* extreme as the Drukhari in how they've dealt with "The Fall". These are the aspects of the Craftworld lore I find most interesting. They live on a knifes edge, teetering on the brink of total extinction and damnation if they cannot find redemption. There's also less, lore-centric stuff I like about them. I LOVE Aspect Warriors and Phoenix Lords. I love the idea of a hyper-specialist that has trained in their chosen art for hundreds if not thousands of years. And I like that the Phoenix Lords themselves are (supposed to be) Primarch-Teir characters and (are meant to) givr the Eldar their own roster of "special guys" like the Space Marine Primarchs. With that being said, I at least understand why people dont like the Craftworld Eldar. Too often are they are written like a bunch of smug know-it-alls, who think that they're better than everyone else and sometimes simply refuse to even prove it. I cant even justify this kind of writing by saying- "Well, their Farseers must have read the future, and learned that if they *ever* shared detailed knowledge to a human, they'd turn to Chaos no matter what and kill their Craftworld." That's just bad writing. I'm not going to make or dissect that argument in earnest. Writing like that comes from people who are obligated to include a fight with a Xenos faction so that GW can remind their audience that the Imperium aren't the "good guys" when they're fighting a sympathetic, or at least, a not outwardly aggressive Xenos group. So I get it, the Craftworld Eldar aren't written like the dying race of people who struggle to grab the last flickering threads of hope and light in a deep dark galaxy that want them all dead. They're written like snooty know-it-alls, who talk down to everyone else because they think they're just so much smarter. If you don't like the Craftworlds for how they're portrayed in that manner, then I understand. I've even grappled with and thought alot about why I like the Craftworlds in the first place while writing this post. I may love how the Eldar's fall from grace has changed them as a species, and I like that the Craftworlds' "solution" to it is to live a life of absolute control through harsh discipline. But I think the Lumineth in AoS do all of that better than the 40K Eldar. But like the Eldar, I believe theres hope. Maybe, just maybe, one day, GW will put the same level of time, thought and effort into the lore of the Eldar that the Necrons got at the start of 9th edition. I didnt experience much of 9th, but from what I heard, Necrons became one of the most popular factions overnight because GW actually invested something into them. Good fiction, revamped, more thoughtful lore that focused on the humanity of a Xenos faction of soulless machines. If GW could do that with Necrons, they can do it to the Craftworlds too. I'm not expecting this post to change hearts and minds. Or to suddenly create a new populace of Craftworld Eldar players. I wanted to explain in-deapth what I personally like about the Craftworlds and I did that. But if someone decides to take another look at this slightly messy little faction in the setting we all enjoy, and sees the good in it, that'd be nice too.

[@RoaringShack]

As an eldar fan, a lot of the stuff that makes you angry at them is the stuff that makes me angry gw

[@anegativeatheist-9327]

I still have no idea why I’m simultaneously excited to hear you say “hi, I’m aurther,” and also anticipating you saying “hi, I’m alpharious” or anything like that

[@khalidhamed8843]

Mr. Bones I commend you for taking up the Herculean task of talking about the traitorous eldar without becoming ill at their horrid knife ear visage

[@I2dios8]

The issue with immortal characters in warhammer is that you can bet your sweet ass that if such a character appears in a book that isn't about them 9/10 times they're gonna get slapped around by the main character. Case in point: the Daemon Primarchs.

[@JawaBob]

I personally love both the Craftworlds and Salamanders, they are peak 40k tragedy. Just good guys trying to help their people survive a war-torn galaxy but constantly failing and being treated as pariah for their effort.

[@chainsawsubtlety9828]

Lamenters.

[@JawaBob]

@chainsawsubtlety9828 Shame they're dead in lore. Think they've still got a dreadnought chugging in Deathwatch. It's definitely the same vibe.

[@Lusus-zj9pt]

​From what I remember they aren't all dead? Just thought up as dead? They did get primaris reinforcments

[@JawaBob]

@@Lusus-zj9pt OK, so I decided to Google it. Looks like Dreadnought Chyron is the last known surviving Lamenter, but they don't list the chapter as extinct yet. So some might be lost in the warp, which just leaves the door open enough to justify them on the tabletop.

[@bengonzalez5215]

​@JawaBob yeah thats basically the wink nudge of the writers saying the lamenters arent all gone. He is the last KNOWN lamenter but there are a few others scattered about. Their bad luck is too powerful to let them get off in an easy way like dying

[@waterbears9874]

I feel like craftworld eldar would be cooler if they were present in a much more subtle way, always trying to keep their people hidden and only fighting when it’s absolutely necessary for them to do so (kinda in a “when they show up you know it’s serious” way) to kinda sell that dying race feel

[@crunchyfrog1709]

GW's writers have fucked up the Eldar worse than Slannish ever could

[@theblondesiouxsiesioux]

Yeah. I think G.W would benefit from some better writers.... But I'm probably wrong.

[@wernerfuhry]

I don't think you are wrong. Probably 2-3 good writters (not GT) that are allowed to progress the lore, others aren't either as good or not really allowed to write anything interesting. Then there is the communication issue between lore and codex writters. They basically don't talk to much, but it seems to get better. And than, there is the problem that, for a long time, that not a lot of people at GW did keep track of ther lore progression. That's why we have weird power creeps, plot holes plot armor and contradictions. Again, they seem to just recently check on consistency... sometimes. So yeah, fun times I gues.

[@rellek4053]

Remember that one popular writer who was supposed to write a book about one of the primarchs, admitted that he hated said primarch, wrote him almost entirely out of his own book, wrote him a pathetic, unceremonious death, and then got forced by GW to rewrite it because he tried to kill off an important character just because they didn’t like them very much. I swear the best black library author is B rank at best but people eat them up because it’s the best we’ve got.

[@krissteel4074]

@@theblondesiouxsiesioux Maybe hiring some writers that have graduated from crayons and licking the glue

[@darthkek1953]

Sci-fi writers rend to be Woke AF. They will not write "Space Nazis for Real Nazis", they would tear down to "reimagine". So 40K would end up being retconned be run by a black chick who was also non-binary and lame.

[@chez0102]

It's up to the God Emperor to forgive the Xenos .... it's up to me to send them to him

[@siechamontillado]

Enjoy your 69th like brother. The Emperor protects!

[@Landmassorussia]

Drunk rememberancer is gods gift to 40k fanart, especially his eldar

[@Rexx8492nd]

Based

[@MrPooleish]

Just a little note, around 5th-6th edition, GW got into a lengthy court battle. At the time, a lot of units had rules, but no official models and third-party companies were selling kits for those units. GW said you can't do that, but the courts said, "If you don't make the model, you can't stop the third-parties". That's why the Parasite, the Doom, and even Mycetic Spores (drop pods) got removed. We eventually got the Parasite back, we got a different drop pod kit a while back, and the Neurotyrant is almost the Doom if you squint. I can't speak to Eldar, but that's my biomatter encrusted two-cents.

[@TheAmberKing]

I can already feel @PancreasNoWork's blood boiling!

[@zaxxo2808]

Ayo Amber, so how's Pan ?

[@jamesf3871]

You really have to hand it to the Necrons. They knew that the Eldar would cause the Eye of Terror to pop into existence with the birth of Slaanesh, so they built the blackstone pylons on Cadia thousands of years earlier, before they went into stasis, to contain it.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

Not really hard to predict that the eldar night create an chaos god when the nrecons helped to make 3

[@TheOneStooge]

The pylons were built to depress the massive psychic power the Old Ones and Eldar could weild during the War in Heaven, not because the Necrons had the foresight of Eldar depravity and their potential to create a Chaos god (which had essentially no power or influence when the Necrons were active)

[@YouWinAFREEiPOD]

I find it hard to believe that the Necrons made three during the War in Heaven since the C'tan were eating souls rather than simply killing the beings for them to return to / effect the Warp in such a meaningful way.

[@volks2605]

Trying to explain craftworld eldar without getting angry (Impossible)

[@Ottersanity]

5:14 you are an honorary American. Congratulations

[@MrMysticphantom]

Craftworld eldar always give me the feeling of Eastern (asian, including farsi) style fantasy mixed with a touch of celtic... and that.... kinda feels nice... i like the different take and tone and stereotypes.. otherwise the tropes with the rest of the fiction would kinda be lacking

[@kamiwriterleonardo6345]

About the Doom of Malantai, the only kinda throwback to that creature that we had recently was in Warhammer 40k Tacticus with the active ability of the newly released Neurothrope, which is named like "Devour Essence" or something like that, which heals both it and other Tyranid units after an enemy unit is damaged or killed by the psychic attack. Which is a bit of a stretch, but it may be a throw back to the Neurothrope that consumed the souls of the Eldar of Malantai.

[@khorneflakes4446]

Neurothropes also appeared as an HQ option in 8th and 9th edition 40k.

[@fishpop]

2:03 to skip the sponsor. Said sponsor was also a good way to get through the whole can't swear thing.

[@victorianmagnet9308]

As a Necron Supremacist, I too think that elves are stinky.

[@Warmaster2001]

And to be subjugated as slaves and concubines to Szarekh, Trazyn and Orikan combined isn't it?

[@jaegerbomb269]

I, too, don't like Eldar. Especially on the table top. They're dirty as hell.

[@5555petros]

Hatred of the Eldar almost atones for thinking the Blood Angels are mid. Almost.

[@arionofotherworld]

The Craftworlders seem almost a blend of feudal Japan and ancient Britain in a sci-fi wrapping, which seems cool to me. Also the Striking Scorpians are awesome.

[@mojungle3054]

Just found the channel a day or two ago and have been binging and loving everything You are like if TurkeyTom switched to 40K lore

[@Ibian666]

Frieren is the best thing to happen to anime in at least a few years.

[@battyresonator2077]

Nicely done episode! Looking forward to the Aspect Warrior temple episode...But now...When will you cover the GLORIOUS courts of the fair Summerking? Many of us must and will know of fair Ushoran and his chivalrous kin? (Talking about the Flesh-Eater Courts, especially with the new models AND Battletome coming out)

[@Seldonlair]

All I have to say about eldar can be summed up by this following statement: "FUCKING HERE-...XENOS!"

[@zetafae4124]

Funny thing about the Craftworld Eldar is they are far more influenced by feudal Japan, they are the Samurai faction all things considered.

[@ThelastofNazarick]

The druids and their circles seem more attuned to the aspect warriors and the masters and caretakers of the living ships sound like a druid thing as well as their naming conventions. Banshee spirit seer wraiths etc.

[@alfieingrouille1528]

Wtf are you talking about they have litterally no influences from japan?

[@Yurt_enthusiast7]

Ascetic Celts would be a better way to describe them IMO

[@shoutomidoriya5044]

Tau are more directly intluenced by japanese culture than craftworld eldar. I can see the helms and shuriken weaponry being an influence but that's it

[@TheRedMan77]

@@alfieingrouille1528 Their main ranged weapon is literally called a "Shuriken Gun". How is that not influenced by Japan?

[@ColCoal]

Mr Bones(squat mode): “I am angry! Angry about ELVES!”

[@phnexOice]

Seems like you have declared war on Pancreas lol

[@tomwarren5580]

The only thing worse than an elf is a space elf

[@waterdog_mf]

You and PancreasNoWork need to have a showdown on elves/eldar. This is hilarious

[@ProfNekko]

the saddest thing about the Eldar is that they legitimately had the answers to solve a lot of problems in the galaxy but almost always fail in solving the problems because they've built up such a reputation of being arrogant pricks with a backstabbing disorder that nobody really likes working with them. it's like "Hey there you useless piece of inferior refuse! A horde of demons will be summoned to this location and slaughter everyone here but they can be defeated if we work together... But we're going to need to have you lose 10s of thousands of men just to ensure that one of our guys doesn't get their armor dusty and we're just gonna pack our bags and retreat to leave you to get torn to shreds while we recover that left shoe that was forgotten by one of our own on this planet about four thousand years ago." and then they wonder why the other factions don't like them very much

[@sigurdjensen195]

I love Craftworld eldar. Their inherent tragedy is amazing... But I agree that they are almost always written horribly in stories. It's like writers can only write them as arrogant, and then getting their ass beat.

[@Warmaster2001]

Well that's stupid af. I mean really their imagination for elves is ending up being arrogant numskulls and nothing but arrogant numskulls? That's really degenerative approach not gonna lie.

[@monferno1]

Honestly I do love the Asuryani Aeldari lore, I wish they got more good books though, Phoenix Lords are dope and I love wraiths, read Asurmen Hand of Asuryan if you haven’t, it’s great honestly

[@THExRISER]

You and *Live! From The Black Library* should collab sometimes. I think you two would have a lot to talk about.

[@fromthetempest]

They have in the past. Cant remember which vid specifically. But it was from that video I actually heard of @Live! from the black library

[@THExRISER]

@@fromthetempest I'll check it out.

[@mechanicalmariachi1572]

i will never forgive the space elves for first claw

[@TheJonnieredeyez]

Outside of Harlequins, totally agree. As a Canadian who knew you were Canadian already, that 'Merica rip was hilarious 😂

[@Matt-gs2mf]

genuinely love your channel man, your style of content is pretty inspiring and has got me thinking about doing it. great work.

[@strikeflyer]

I'm nearly finished with the Forges of Mars trilogy and theres a tiny group of Eldar in it and your video completely mirrors my exact thoughts of the Eldar. They're so annoying to follow with their pompous know it all smug attitude that its insufferable to read through and anytime the story puts focus on them (if at all) its such a slog to read through. That might be because I'm biased because I'm a fan of the Mechanicus and Titans but come on, this is my first time seeing the Eldar in lore and its not a good impression. I will edit this comment once I finish reading the final five chapters from God's of Mars

[@rumorcontrol7873]

yes yes I see the American annexation of canada is progressing smoothly

[@Warmaster2001]

Now without riddles. What you mean?

[@Frescko]

Unexpected Pelinal Whitestrake got me to smile

[@vostroyan1941]

Ate the eldar.Ate the heretic. Luv me comissar. luv me rations. Luv me emprah. Simple as

[@Sephiroth36977]

A challenger appears! Mr. Bones! Versus! Glueboy! Begin!! Arthur and Glueboy both have a bunch of videos covering the Legions and Glueboy is a knife ear simp and specifically likes Eldrad Uthred. I think he even has an Eldar army. As cool as it would be to see you both argue or agree about space marines that you like, i think it would be really cool to watch a tabletop deathmatch between you both. It might never happen, but if it did I would watch it.

[@pkhitch1117]

I love the aesthetics of the Eldar both in models and old artwork, but I agree a lot of their old lore is quite silly. That being said though I am a relatively new player (beginning of 9th edition) I have quickly developed both a healthy fear and respect for them on the tabletop since my friend with whom I can play most frequently fields the space elves in all their forms. As a Custodes player suffering in 10th edition with the loss of 10 man Warden blocks, and the current level of dominance the elves project on the current meta, I very much understand your hatred of those pointy eared bastards.

[@jumpysniper]

I like the wraithguard like and their armor, their lore is fine from what I know, just keep the helmets on.

[@mannofdober873]

Eldar blood is all shiny. Which sucks when it's sunny, because the light reflect off the blood and makes it hard to see.

[@CantusTropus]

The Eldar have a genuinely tragic backstory and yet still manage to be such massive, treacherous pricks that you still feel absolutely zero sympathy for them.

[@merica6502]

The best thing they could do for 40k is say the eldari died off

[@HanniballXII]

Of all the eldar factions the exodites are really the only ones that kinda catch my interest. The craftworld eldar are way too "lawful good" for me, in a way that makes it look really forced imo. Meanwhile the dark eldar are so far off the other end of the spectrum, that i can not take them seriously. There is something about the whole "reject modernity, return to knife eared monkeigh" attitude I enjoy about the exodites... And yes 90% of my enjoment comes from the thought of fielding an army of dinosaur riding spacewizards.

[@enocescalona]

when do we get the pancreas and arthur cagematch. also the "think fast shit ass", was fucking hilarious, lmao.

[@firmlygraspi1]

Tolkien has soured me so thoroughly on the premise of elves that I've consistently ignored the Eldar, despite them on paper having a lot of my favorite shit in the whole setting.

[@deneskun.8587]

Based and dwarfpilled. Rock and stone brother

[@izzydarkhart4144]

I always like videos like these. I primarily play Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Aeldari, Drukhari. World Eaters. I think they are all cool. I do not get that big into the lore and will always care less about if it is really cool. I honestly love the simplicity of the Aeldari. Lots of room and freedom to do what ever you want with the faction. I have been working on my own blood angel successor chapter and my hell is it getting complicated, i am not trying to impress space marine nerds and i am trying to stay pretty surface level but it is still complicated where as my own craftworld was pretty damn simple to do. Also Canada is a part of North America and there for count as America. Not sure how the US got the America title dispite it being a continent land mass lol.

[@kingleech16]

Great, you’re finally covering the best faction in 40k!

[@ikampbush1722]

I love your use of 90s white dwarf art…. Takes me back to my youth lol

[@packe93]

Even I'm who's a massive anime nerd, hates Eldar. Soooo I don't think that's the relationship.

[@EngineerOfVaul]

As someone who is a massive eldar fan, and particularly a fan of eldrad, I had to understandably brace myself before watching this video. I will say, I agree with eldar lore trying to have one foot on two boats, on holding on to old lore while attempting to progress new lore is a big obstruction to actually progressing anything. But, to be fair, when does GW progress anything for anyone? They want things to remain static. Anyways, as for a lot of their lore being shafted, there's a lot of reasons. Late 2000s and early 2010s, there was just a lot of Eldar getting shafted in lore. Imperium favoritism, as much as we play it off for fun, is real, and kind of sucks in a setting where people often like to take sides with the big players. We are told the eldar are a dying race, but even in such small numbers their inherent skills and advancement of their psychic and technological prowess helps them hold off their eventual demise long enough even in this extremely hostile galaxy. And all of that gets thrown out the window the moment a small chapter of space marines SOMEHOW manage to invade and destroy an entire craftworld, which should be some of the most well defended locations in the entire galaxy. A lore fuck up so bad that GW actively made up excuses to explain it later. Their are instances where the eldar are treated as mystical and rare, and the next instance they are killed by the thousands, with no regards to the gravity of what the death of a 1000 year old being should be like. There's this really annoying dissonance for people who are invested in eldar lore and then actually trying to read any of it. A lot of their stories have amazing premises, but ended up having subpar writing or no solid direction. That and Gav Thorpe writing their biggest stuff, like the Ynnari books, is such a hit or miss. I don't think he's as much of a problem as someone like, say, matt ward. He has written some amazing stuff, like the Heirs of the Laughing god (which, Arthur, if you are looking at this comment, please give it a listen. I know you find the clowns icky, but this is actually fun). And when he started, the Ynnari books were awesome! It had this feel of a epic fantasy adventure, which is a flavour of writing I think only the eldar can truly portray in the 40k setting, and it was nice. A rag tag group of people from different walks of life coming together to achieve something cool for the eldar. There was an opportunity to explore more eldar lore, their different factions, locations, cultures. Except, by the final book, where Gav just kinda... Gives up. I don't know why he, or maybe GW, decided to go in that direction, but it was just... bad. Its not unsalvageable, but like.... Why? And finally, there's just that whole, weird, hate for elves that I see online so much nowadays. I'm gonna be honest, it came as a surprise to me how much elves in any setting are often looked at with disdain. My intake of fantasy growing up was largely Warcraft and Dragon age, where the weird elf hate is a lot less prevalent. But it permeates heavily in settings like 40k and elder scrolls, which, you know what, is fair enough. But, it gets a bit self propagating at some point where some people just wanna jump on a bandwagon (since 70% of this community learns their lore from memes), and its tiring when the mention of eldar coming up in anything is instantly reacted with generic comment about burning xenos #120. Regardless, Eldrad did nothing wrong. Praise Asuryan. ^^

[@LordCrate-du8zm]

I would hate the CraftWorld Eldar if it wasn't for the Wraithbone constructs. Wraithlords/Knights are cool as fuck.

[@TheRedMan77]

Wraithbone units _do_ look fucking awesome.

[@TheJonnieredeyez]

Arguably your best episode Ever.Truly found your balance Sir.

[@mortthepirate6318]

Craftworld Eldar are my favorite faction. In fact the reason I got pushed out of the 40k hobby was realizing only the imperium gets attention.

[@Sephiroth36977]

I like the dynamic of elf versus human rivalry. I like the idea that humans try to leave elfs alone but we reproduce too fast and encroach into their spaces. That trope mostly fits in 40k. Mostly, except for the whole "suffer not the xeno to live" thing...

[@Yak9UT]

I like to think of Craftworld Eldar as space Mormons who fled the hedonistic culture of the Eldar empire to live on giant spaceships.

[@BaronElBardo]

I started reading about Eldar lore recently because my brother have a harlequin Kill Team and I have a Corsair one. I'm mainly an Imperial player and lore enjoyer but... Fuck, they deserve more love! The only good appearance of an Eldar I know is in Requiem Infernal novel.

[@ekilnotpoven]

As a loyal servant i say the eldar can go to the bloody warp(but i do like the wraithbone constructs theyre pretty cool)

[@juliengosselin4277]

As far as melee specialized Eldars go, I prefer the Striking Scorpions to the Howling Banshees: they are basically navy seals, like they are said to be visibly stronger and more heavily built than regular Eldars, and their special little tidbit about their Phoenix Lord is cool too.

[@robertdrash1105]

I actually like the Craftworld Eldar more than most elf archetypes. Them being elitest xenophobes works in this setting. Also they have good reason to look down their nose at humanity in this setting unlike in other settings. Humans aren't really putting our best foot forward in 40k.

[@ashardalondragnipurake]

al gw needs to do to make the setting look less silly is make one of the mayor marine chapters die out to the last have anything of significance happen

[@Warmaster2001]

Well Blood Angels are prime candidate to gone extinct after Devastation of Baal. But I doubt that will happen since the emperor Roboute I Guilliman will just recreate Blood Angels as Primaris chapter like with Soul Drinkers.

[@vilidious]

Eldar... back in the days of owning WH40k armies: me: newbie with a minimal army to play with opponent: experienced player with eldar who has all the bells and whistles, with a bit of a "eldary" battle attitude too to be fair battle record: 1-2 matches for him to know what to take to always counter my newb army -> hundreds of losses since final resolution: my newbie army gets sold Also repeated the exact same experience with another army, until life took me away from old home region and also effectively ended my WH hobby.

[@rmjoumaa29]

I enjoy the aesthetic of Eldar, Still wanting to get some to paint. I just have never been able to play the Eldar way so it's entirely an aesthetic/collecting thing.

[@gmanplaysgames256]

Tyranid player here, I miss The Doom of Malan'tai, I want my soul-slurping mega brain bug back.

[@Bread-nx9fo]

I'm so glad Scorpions are getting a Killteam

[@danielrashkov4344]

Mr. Pancreas should take notes.

[@arizonaicesuntea9922]

Oi, Drunk Remberancer does more than knife ears!

[@augiechiavuzzi4907]

Ever day we get closer to the end of the decedant eldar race...... That that last day cannot come soon enough

[@purplehaze5607]

Idk if it’s just my phone but 25k views to 20k likes?? Mr Bones you’re killing it, we love you as much as Conrad loved to try prove he wasn’t the only dickish one

[@nobody-ye9rx]

Drunk remember is absolutely gods gift to drawn porn, human and elf porn both

[@gerardmontgomery280]

That Ynnari picture (11:50) with Lelith Hesperax looking embarrassed to be there. Like a goth kid being forced to hang out with their cousins at a family event. What? No. I'm no projecting, you're projecting.

[@Ignisrex]

Well, the do know better than the Imperium about not making chaos stronger. It took them millienias of hedonistic excess to make slaanesh, while the Emperor bass-boosted chaos from a threat in the edges to the greatest existencal threat next to tyranids while he actively tried to combat them, in the span of a few centuries.

[@williamings773]

I like the Corsairs, they hit that Goldilocks zone for me (not to edgy, not to bland), but the one pirate price in the index is from the wraith craftworld, wraiths being my least favorite unit.

[@BloodKnight003]

I personally like the Craftworld Eldar, their aesthetic has a cool mix of normal elf kinda thing as well as a Sci-fi’d up ancient Chinese vibe and I think it’s cool. Lore wise I think that they have potential, it’s just often wasted.

[@stainedclass4588]

Finally a content creator who is not an elf simp

[@StoneColdSteel]

Prince Yriel is the best craftworld character and you can’t change my mind. We need for him to get more lore for him and follow his story

[@benjaminrobertson2990]

Eldrad probably saved the whole galaxy just by getting Vulkan back to Terra btw

[@eliezioteixeira7222]

Never thought see frieren here.. one of the best elfs in fiction unfortnely she would die in 40k 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@Scrombo2]

What you've convinced me of, (besides hating elves which I already did, well done) is that Warhammer fans are dwarves (the fantasy race, not the medical condition)

[@darovitman6720]

I am reading the path of the Eldar trilogy and I really like the picture that is painted of the Eldar Society. Furthermore I think that reducing Craftworld Eldar lore to eldrad and his dumb schemes is not fair as there are many lore entries that focus on the Eldar and don’t have them as plot devices in other stories

[@Sephiroth36977]

Mr.Bones has made it big! 🎉 Mr. Bones is getting that Raid: Shadow Legends money! 🎉 I already have Sun Wukong though.

[@Emeldavi]

I like Eldar because the Mymeara FW books are amazing.

[@knuckl6972]

I've played against elder in 10th enough times (1 time) that I now irrationally hate them and all they stand for

[@chrissheffield5468]

Idharae was not harmed during the making of this motion picture.