Isha - Elfdar Life Goddess Stuck in the Jar

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Poor Isha. Really just goes through it, doesn't she?
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23:03 - Conclusion
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[@braydoxastora5584]

speaking of arcs. silent king rescuing the goddess of life as a hope to restore the necrons would be rather fitting as well. just ya know adding onto the pile of character arcs that eldar don't have

[@Battlechicken12]

@pancreasnowork9939 When are you going to create a patreon. Ps when is the greatest Skaven to have ever lived going to be getting his own episode Grayseer Thanquol, the gray lord

[@sirmeep__674]

More Elf Simpery Brilliant

[@johnd2058]

12:00 Hey elf simp, howabout this: since the Yvraine saga got jackknifed, howabout they get it going again with some it-just-might-work hairbrained scheme like rescuing the life goddess to power the god of the dead? And since this would be a massive fuck you to Grandpa turned-Iax-into-a-pus-swamp, the smurfs and monkeighs could tag along. Seriously with the number of Choas gods increasing to 4.5 the 40k order gods need reinforcements

[@m.s.e.advanced2842]

Being trapped in Papa Nurgle's funny jar has gotta be one of the worst Warhammer fates imaginable

[@cornixdemetrius7883]

"I filled Isha's jar with my pus and put it on Khorne's domain to warm it up"

[@BenHyle]

I mean yes, but also no. Like...imagine being captured by Skaven.

[@KarlFranz5017]

The worst Warhammer fats is being one of the peasant and having to listen to your bretonnian liege yapping about how great the lady is while you live in a glorified shithole and have barely any food

[@cornixdemetrius7883]

@@BenHyle Slaven are just a mix of Slaanesh and Nurgle

[@sergentharker7182]

Average grimdark Justin Whang video

[@the12thghostface13]

Imagine Isha gets free somehow only to be captured by Trazyn for his museum and put in a different jar. At least it'd be cleaner

[@bottasheimfe5750]

ya know, i can totally see that as an outcome if Isha ever gets free. it would just be like GW.

[@kalashnikovdevil]

Of the two, I'd much rather be Trazyn's prisoner.

[@lorddevilfish5868]

@@kalashnikovdevilIt would be kinda cool if they insulted each other over how much their races have fallen.

[@axios4702]

I think she would take that deal immediately.

[@bthsr7113]

Heck, there are even Eldar in Trayzyn's museum for her to sort of be reconnected with her children. She'd leap on that deal in less than a heartbeat.

[@barrybend7189]

Fun fact Isha also gains power from any medical practitioner and has on several occasions stopped Nurgle plagues by doing a Zeentch with anyone curing diseases.

[@memesofwarhemmer7076]

Kinda it’s because nurgle allows it he knows she is curing his plagues but he finds that funny so he allows it if he ever truly wanted to kill her he could

[@MrFive2FiveVods]

@@memesofwarhemmer7076 "shit she cured that one i could have sworn that would trump her healing, ah well that means i get to perfect it further!" nurgle

[@screamingcactus1753]

@@memesofwarhemmer7076 I'm not sure that he finds it funny so much that he's just decided that her meddling is worth putting up with to keep her around as a lab rat, because killing her would mean that he doesn't have a life goddess to test his diseases on anymore

[@fareastslav]

By doing a what???

[@Tmanowns]

Does that mean Facetious Barge is her greatest champion? Or Dark Eldar Homonculi?

[@Darkpentagrams]

A returning Isha would also be interesting with interactions with the Ynnari, because Ynnead is a God still in the process of being born. And he is the God of Death. So the Goddess of Life helping in the birth of the God of Death to fight and defeat Slaanesh. Life and Death not as enemies but allies

[@MarkD5678]

as Nurglists put it, life and death are both sides of the natural cycle, Isha working together with Ynnead would be such fitting karma against Chaos. And the responses from both Slaanesh and Nurgle after losing their Eldar playthings would be amazing and terrifying to behold.

[@thatoneguyyouthinkshouldbe2431]

To cool to exist the reality you’ve put forward

[@Bluecho4]

This was my thinking as well. Isha and Ynnead, not as enemies, but two sides of the same coin, united in their quest to free the Eldar from Chaos. The Eldar were never exactly strangers to dying and coming back to life, after all.

[@EagleScoutBlackBelt586]

I like the idea but it might be a better idea if they weren’t completely on the same side. They can have a common enemy in chaos but I don’t think they should work together all the time. I’m still somewhat new to 40k but I think the reason the Ynari lord turned out the way it did is because if the Ynari actually succeeded then the Eldar would basically unite as a single faction. My understanding of why all the Eldar don’t embrace the Ynari is because Ynead is basically an unproven god, he has not awakened so it isn’t clear if they can actually defeat slaanesh. This is why I think the lord turned out the way it did, if Ynead awoke then the Eldar would have no reason not to follow them, all of the Eldar unite into one faction and become too powerful. Isha could remedy this problem, she would naturally be wary of this new god due to what happened with the last new god, him being her natural opposite, and requiring all her children to die for her to awaken. So the exodites and more orthodox craftworlds would follow Isha, while more open minded craftworlds and the dark Eldar sick of commorragh would join the Ynari. This would create a way for Ynead to awaken without Eldar automatically uniting under them and we can finally get out of the corner GW wrote themselves into.

[@Hammerheadcruiser]

A yin and yang thing between them would be cool. Add some new, interesting imagery to the eldar... Literally anything interesting to the eldar.

[@akramgimmini8165]

Elf Mommy in a Jar? Sounds like something a Elf enjoyer would do

[@KarlFranz5017]

You forgot to censor the E word

[@akramgimmini8165]

@@KarlFranz5017 Jokes don't deserve Censorship

[@KarlFranz5017]

@@akramgimmini8165 I know i was just joking around myself

[@akramgimmini8165]

@@KarlFranz5017 No I meant Elfes are a joke Mate xD

[@KarlFranz5017]

True@@akramgimmini8165

[@caioprado9380]

In her streams Fauna does threat to turn her viewers into trees, so using her to represent isha is even more accurate

[@thegreatbookofgrudges6953]

Turning them into sylvaneth or caged at the wildwood lol

[@thejuiceking2219]

didn't nurgle turn a bunch of eldar into trees?

[@davisdf3064]

​@@thejuiceking2219 Nurgle too is a god of life, a twisted one, that uses your body to bring life to pathogens, but it's still life

[@KawaiiCanadafreememes]

Alarielle is a funny character because she's essentially Warhammer fantasy version of the Emperor, except she's like, literally a magical girl, to the point she's saved by a Prince

[@jhonnoilcringeincarnato8593]

Reminds me of that fanart of big E having tea with alarielle and another elf character i can't remember

[@flaviomonteiro1414]

This is funny because at least game wise, Sisters of Avelorn hit as hard as a Space Marine Company 😂😂😂😂

[@Leivve]

Lot of people propose Lemen saving her. I prefer the twist of he fights his way into the garden, but isn't able to save her, but before he is forced to retreat, she gives him a seed that will allow her to escape. He takes it on the condition she heals the emperor when it's done; which she also agrees. He then delivers the seed to some exodites telling them what's up, and that the wolves will be at their call to protect it. Give a little bit of a Vikings and the World Tree Yggdrasil vibe. Wolves for the most part go off on their own thing. While the eldar get to be proactive both protecting the tree that'll bring their god back, and finding things in the galaxy that'll cultivate it, and reduce their 10,000 year "hold the objective" challenge by a couple millennia.

[@inductivegrunt94]

The nicest goddess in both Fantasy and 40k... Not that that's saying much. But one who also gets the shortest possible end of the stick.

[@pillarmenn1936]

Its like a japanese office worker getting isekai'd into Dark Souls. Its not ending well at all.

[@janstraka8674]

​@@pillarmenn1936so Re:Zero

[@pillarmenn1936]

@@janstraka8674 Yeah pretty much

[@fiendish9474]

​@@pillarmenn1936dg7srgsrz7dyfhd😮999

[@_NIKOS9_NIKOS]

My headcanon is that Isha could potentially escape from Nurgle's garden herself if she really tried but she begrudgingly stays because Nurgle is the only protection she really has from Slaanesh.

[@SamueL-td7fb]

Either Slaanesh or a giant daemon bird/wolf/dragon-wall will kill her without even noticing How would she do in the Webway tho

[@Kaiserboo1871]

The way I see it. Slaanesh would eat her like she ate Isha's family Tzeentch would betray her (likely by giving her over to Slaanesh for some crazy scheme he thought up) Khorne reminds Isha too much of Khaine (who tortured her for warp knows how long) and he would likely torture her like Khaine did. As far as Isha is concerned, Nurgle is the best of the worst. He won’t torture her like Khorne would, he won’t betray her like Tzeentch would, and he won’t eat her like Slaanesh would.

[@rootsnootthnute8598]

Mine is similar, I think Isha IS Nurgle, like how Khaine is Khorne. They're not, they're their own things, of course, but they're also the same thing, which is what led Khorne and Nurgle to "save" them both. They're made of the same emotional stuff, love, despair, fecundity, life, responsibility, etc. Nurgle is repulsive, because he's the main ocean of the emotion, but Isha is her own little lake of the stuff, specific to Eldar cognition, and so she eschews some of the truth of these emotions that Nurgle fully embodies. Essentially, Slaanesh's birth/ascendance/debut tore down the dams of Eldar thought that kept Isha defined from Nurgle. How this factors into the Eldar myths is that it pretty much doesn't because they're myths made up by the Eldar to metaphorically describe some weird stuff about the gods.

[@KeishinB237]

My own headcannon is the only real reason she's staying is because its where (for now) she can do the most for her children. It's said she influences the cures for all/most of nurgles plagues and diseases. Without her there is a very good chance Nurgle's influence and kill count would rise dramaticaly.

[@sev1120]

​@@Kaiserboo1871 and even if it's a twisted and distorted version, Nurgle does love everyone in the materium and in his garden, so maybe she believes she can work to curb his more horrific tendencies

[@redjirachi1]

Isha was a traditional roleplaying fantasy deity who had the misfortune of no clipping into the Warhammer franchise. Something similar happened when Zamasu no clipped video from a JRPG into a shonen anime

[@nerdyvids1]

"Oh shit the heroes here can just throw hands instead of needing to gather some ancient relic to stop me."

[@Pemmont107]

In my headcanon, AoS' "Alarielle" is a tripartite, composite deity. She's equal part elf Allarielle, Ariel and Isha's surviving essence - all merged into one being who bares that name. That makes the most sense imo.

[@consolescrub4031]

Honestly, it makes sense. It's also perfectly GW "original material" considering the historical traditions of a three faced goddess. (No shade against you, just that GW property identity is a bunch of history/myth textbooks, some scissors and glue.)

[@consolescrub4031]

@@ThaUltimateHunter Benefit of the doubt to Skaven there but yep. You could say the Tau are rather Star Trek but at least they're not a direct parallel to France.

[@leonelimalevu7302]

​@@ThaUltimateHunterto be fair, the Tau are definitely gonna need that deity if they want to survive the hellscape that is, the modern 40k galaxy.

[@No-wj4nu]

The only person in competition with the emperor for the worst fate

[@Emanon...]

The Emperor could have tried talking to his sons. Could've avoided a lot of shenanigans...

[@noobatgames3321]

​@@Emanon... I mean they were adults did they ever try and talk to him or just get mad ?

[@skyro0412]

​​@@Emanon...Yeah, just look at Magnus. That poor guy didn't even know that the Emperor was working on his important Astronomican project, resulting in him unkowingly destroying the protective wards and damaging the Astronomican. If the Emperor had told his sons about his project, Magnus would have probably taken another method to warn him about Horus betrayal.

[@grayrook8637]

As long as you and the internet don't consider what the jars are for.

[@casketbase7750]

Do you think Emps and Isha are sad, Warp-equivalent pen pals who commiserate over the dickery of the Chaos Gods? I think they are.

[@rellek4053]

I made an alternate M42 lore for my friends to play around with centered around rescuing Isha and causing an eldar resurgence in the galaxy and making the story less about space marines for a few minutes. I’m really proud of it because I feel like I did justice to every faction

[@DetectiveLance]

Sir or madam, I would like your campaign setting book, that sounds delightfully adventurous.

[@rellek4053]

@@DetectiveLance if my memory and KZbin character limit allows, I’ll type up my cliff notes after work.

[@Matt-lk5ng]

tag me as well @@rellek4053

[@kalashnikovdevil]

@@rellek4053 Tag me please, that sounds awesome!

[@rellek4053]

So I’d start with just retconning the ynnari because they accomplished nothing and went nowhere. Cut our losses and get something better. Instead have Guilliman resurrected by a priestess of Isha or a farseer or something who has foreseen the primarch having a role to play indirectly in the salvation of the Eldar. Then fast forward to when the Emperor has to save Guilliman from Mortarion and sets Nurgle’s garden on fire, drastically weakening the plague god and giving Cegorach the opportunity to swoop in and save Isha while Nurgle is busy stamping out fires. With their mother goddess returned, the Eldar start having a positive birth rate again and that’s not even 1/10th of what I’ve thought up for this scenario

[@axios4702]

I like Isha a lot and I love that you use Fauna to represent her. GW hates moving the setting almost as much as they loathe doing non space marine plotlines, but if the squats returned, there is hope they will finally realize they are sitting on an exodite shape pile of money. Elves with shuriken guns riding dinosaurs, come on! Also, you can't be happily married if your husband is dead.

[@averageeughenjoyer6429]

The issue is Aeldari themselves, there ain’t too many ways to write them

[@CBRN-115]

​@@averageeughenjoyer6429uuuu

[@bthsr7113]

@@averageeughenjoyer6429 That's just unimaginative.

[@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong]

I hate the eldar aesthetic, but as a Tau player, I feel you.

[@axios4702]

@@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong I don't play the Tabletop but I love the Tau too.

[@abigthonker8178]

I feel like if Isha were to come into 40k it would be fun to see her go the way of khaine, where she fragments and splits to escape nurgle, but instead of going to the craftworlds she ends up on various maiden worlds and/or crone worlds to become part of their "world spirits". It would give exodites a reason to run out into the galaxy to reassemble their god. Wouldn't exactly be great for Isha but hey at least some parts of her get to be with her children

[@bthsr7113]

It means more suffering for her, keeps the Eldar fairly weak, and doesn't require respecting a new asset for them. Yeah, I can see GW doing this if they do anything with her.

[@wingedhussar8552]

11:08 That’s an interesting thought. Imagine a faction of eldar who had a crisis of faith, concluded that the old gods falling to Slaanesh is proof of their weakness, and gave up on Ynnead. Chaos Eldar might use Nurgle, Khorne, and Tzeentch as replacements for Isha, Khaine, and the laughing god respectively.

[@martinratagris]

To be fair Demeter has a lot of dark moments like the time she nearly killed everyone because Zeus gave their daughter to Hades or when she had a king cursed so he would eat himself.

[@sovietunion7643]

old greecian god lore was wild. i swear the gods that are more associated with bad things like hades and ares are more balanced and stable headed than the people who are supposed to be the good guys

[@n.s.mcmahon6180]

It would be an interesting twist if Nurgle's diseases were in some way building up her immune system and making her stronger for each one she overcomes.

[@cyborgcatrj6794]

I also think that now that she’s the only eldar god of nature left, she now has even greater authority over it. As Nurgle expands his domain by creating new horrific forms of life, Isha too becomes stronger because he is also expanding her domain.

[@leonelimalevu7302]

I see a potential 40k plotline in the making. So basically, she would continue building up her power in secret and plan ways to defeat nurgle. But then realize that ifshe were to battle Nurgle and "somehow" win, she would be left defenceless against Slaanesh. That is where the revived Emperor comes in. Both would forge an alliance in secret, each vowing to help and protect the other if the other needed aid. The Emperor would strike at Nurgle first, sending forth his forces, both physical (guardsmen, sisters of battle, space marines, sisters of silence, custodes)and warp-made ( legions of the damned, imperial saints, etc.) into Nurgle's realm. Nurgle, remembering how the Emperor burned his garden WHILE HE WAS STILL IN A COMA, decides to stand up from his toilet throne and face Big E himself. A revived Emperor "might" defeat Nurgle alone, but not without getting Seriously injured in the process. But that is where Isha comes into the picture. While Nurgle is busy throwing hands with the Big E, Isha would then have the opportunity to break from her jar. And with Nurgle being preoccupied with the Emperor, Isha is free to reign havoc deep within Nurgle's own territory. Leaving Nurgle and his forces cornered between one pissed off god of humanity, and another EVEN MORE pissed off goddess of elves.

[@davidfrancisco3502]

The War In Heaven is known as the War Of Aeons by the necrons according the 10th edition necron codex.

[@berilsevvalbekret772]

Make sense. The blasted thing lasted around 5 million years. 😂

[@davidfrancisco3502]

@@berilsevvalbekret772 The 10th edition necron codex has dropped the official artstyle of a necrontyr face, at least the ceremonial mask the Silent King used to wear.

[@Ignisrex]

if any primarch is going to save Isha, it should be Angron, because it would lead to most interesting story. Imagine Anrgon seeing the caged Isha and he recognizes her pain and frees her, and as thanks she heals him from the butchers nails or heals him enough that Angron can just rip them out. Free now of the nails he frees himself from Khorne and he joins the exodite as a free man in so many years

[@lolmeme69_]

...someone hire this man into GW.

[@pstcKC]

Problem is that the NAILS is part of Angron so he would have to be reborn without them being part of his soul or the purpose of the NAILS remade to be not focused on aggression and rage

[@martinsykora1109]

That would maybe work before his ascension to deamonhood. I don't think he has any free will of his own now.

[@averageeughenjoyer6429]

@@martinsykora1109He has, Khorne just drags him down like a manipulative husband

[@ffwast]

@@pstcKC That's why it would make sense for a goddess to do it in the warp.

[@RebellionInHell]

I wonder if Cegorach will try and think of a way to rescue her.

[@BLANK-pr5qs]

Wouldn’t be shocked, his whole goal is stop Chaos, Isha would help. Plus, he probably misses his family after all this time, he’d probably jump at the chance of getting Isha back.

[@averageeughenjoyer6429]

@@ThaUltimateHunterMillions of years is enough for someone to change

[@raphi7158]

​@@ThaUltimateHunter If nothing else, she would be a very godd tool/ally against Slanesh

[@Dracon7601]

To be fair, it's not as if he would've made a big difference against a full chaos god at max power after most of the pantheon and followers died.​@@ThaUltimateHunter

[@bthsr7113]

@@Dracon7601 Agreed. Better to run away and live to fight another day.

[@Raist474]

Watching this makes me realize how much better Fantasy and AoS is for people who don't default to human factions every time compared to 40K.

[@NecronManus]

But what about tyranids and orks and Necrons.

[@Draxynnic]

@@NecronManus If you combine all three and toss in all the Eldar and Tau as well you probably still have less attention from Games Workshop then they give to Space Marines, let alone human factions overall.

[@NecronManus]

@@Draxynnic nah I agree my issue with Eldar is as a new fan I had no idea what purpose they served after 30k I thought they were extinct until I learned aboit guilliman

[@sovietunion7643]

@@NecronManus necrons are just the coolest parts of skaven and tomb kings put together and in space. crazy tech no one understands? sounds like both skaven and necrons. they can infinitely respawn in pyramid complexes and have dynasties that in fight? tomb king moment.

[@Draxynnic]

@@sovietunion7643 Let's not forget that a lot of necron weapons look like green lightning when fired. (That said, though, there are mentions in the fluff of the High and Dark Elves having arcane war engines, they just weren't as portable as repeating bolt throwers and didn't make it to the army lists. While Luminarks and Hurricanums were basically the equivalent of skaven warp-lightning cannons, just powered by crystallised Light and Heavens magic respectively instead of crystallised Dark magic. So most of skanen tech in Fantasy was probably understandable by Elven and College wizards, but outside of the Dark Elves they'd also be the ones that understand how dangerous they are even to the user.)

[@BLANK-pr5qs]

I genuinely adore every idea you put forward at the end, it would actually be an amazing addition to the Eldar and 40K as a whole. Too bad the best Isha representation we’re gonna be getting is Aeldari calling out her name while their entire Craftworld gets slaughtered by one SM chapter for the 8,268th time.

[@MrGhjkl63]

I agree Fauna makes a good stand-in for Isha

[@fineaddition5176]

You're definitely right about people near Thanquol suffering, reading his books is basically just enjoying rat shenanigans, and waiting for the B plot characters to die at the end.

[@joseph8602]

Wonderful video my fellow elf simp! Actually, there is a an eighth edition mention of Isha in the Harlequin codex. In the subsection 'A Pantheon Reborn' it tells the story of how the Masque of the Frozen Stars danced with such extraordinary beauty that the surrounding exodites wept, creating a purifying psychic monsoon that purged all trace of Nurgle's corruption. The entry then goes on to say that there are now rumors this may be the first step to freeing Isha herself and that there is a burgeoning hope of a new aeldari Pantheon of Cegorach, Ynnead, and a freed Isha.

[@jan-timolobner]

That would be delightful

[@SamueL-td7fb]

Learn more in the 10th edition Harlequins codex

[@tackwardsfongjump1800]

☹️

[@leonelimalevu7302]

Does Khaine get to join? Or is everyone still mad at him?

[@ImperatorZor]

In 1886, the french army adopted the Lebel Rifle. The Lebel Rifle was a rifle with an eight round tubular magazine, but what really made it powerful was that it used an 8x50mm catridge. While this was smaller than the previous 11x59mm Gras round, it hit with the Lebel round used Poudre B, a form of pelleted Nitrocellulose moving it with 3500 joules of kinetic energy while the Gras was accelerated with only 2500 joules from it's black powder propellant. The Lebel was at the time the most advanced small arm on the planet.

[@lordinvictus793]

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[@HurBenny]

I assume autoplay launched the next video (this) before the comment was finalised and posted. It happened to the best of us mate, and this one is fairly educative.

[@nyxnox2135]

Personally, I believe Isha spent most of the War in Heaven as a builder. Think about it. Necrons destroy a world or even an entire system, in comes Isha with her OP busted god powers and rebuilds the entire thing to suit the Eldar. Now you have your critical system back and it can be used once more. If we're going with the theory that the gods were only machines or weapons, I see Isha as the perfect Terraforming tool

[@ajbolt7]

Using Fauna as the visualization for Isha is perfect and I can’t get any other version of her out of my mind now

[@LoveStrangeDr]

When Big E burned Nurgle’s garden, he should have taken the jar.

[@RRed19]

He was busy burning the garden, kinda hard to see the jar under all that fire.

[@JustaRandomGuy-el7sg]

honestly eldar turning to nurgle worshiping him and isha sounds pretty damn cool

[@sovietunion7643]

i want this but for khaine. i imagine a timeline where khaine was never shattered by slaanesh and instead was claimed by khorne is his property. considering how similar the two gods are i don't think this would be a nurgle/isha controlling relationship because khorne and khaine are honestly just so similar they may as well be the same god. they both are angry war gods, they both hate slaanesh violently, and they both are total pricks. this thought gave me the idea that the two war gods come to a sort of agreement so the eldar can worship both khaine and khorne at the same time, and the same with humans being able to get some of khaine's power this would blur the lines between proper chaos god and eldar god and honestly would be super cool

[@bthsr7113]

I've said before that I could see 40k Eldar pledging themselves to Khorne or Tzeentch to spite Slaanesh, effectively turning themselves into knowing and willing pawns so long as it hurts She Who Thirrsts.. Also, I've heard that 40k Isha can occasionally whisper cures and treatments for Nurgle's "gifts" to the mortal realm. Edit: There is apparently another goddess in 40k now, but I am really not grooving on the Tau Empire having a Goddess. And even then, she's very young goddess. So Isha coming back to stir the galactic pot will still shake things up and still be distinct.

[@marrvynswillames4975]

The problem is that the eldar know the other gods are just as bad, you don't jump into acid to avoid jumping into lava

[@_NIKOS9_NIKOS]

The T'au themselves do not have a Goddess. Their alien auxularies have a Goddess. She looks after the T'au because they are the ones who spread the greater good and by extension bring more followers to her and because she is made by the possitive emotions those aliens have for the greater good/t'au so by extension she is protective towards them. Pluss, just as she herself admitted, she isnt that strong as far a warp entities go (yet), I am not even sure is she can qualify as a deity. Her power is just more concentrated when in the Empire's territory, specifically inside the wormhole. Personally, I hope she manages to grow in power and she along with the surviving Eldar Gods (and maybe Big E and Orikan) manage to form something like a pantheon of Order just like in AOS.

[@bthsr7113]

@@_NIKOS9_NIKOS I didn't say she was a Goddess of the Tau, but of the Tau Empire, as in the many different species that make it up, albeit except for the Tau with their small souls despite her desire to be known and accepted by them.

[@RtxtDriver]

Love the constant use of fauna

[@maddestlad3868]

If there isn't already a mod to reskin Arielle to look like Fauna, then there needs to be one. I'd play a Wood elf campaign just for that

[@NewGuy2534]

Just watch, Russ comes back and turns out he has Isha as his Eldar waifu.

[@sovietunion7643]

considering his whole deal was about the hunt and wolves like taal or ulric was in fantasy, him becoming a champion of isha because of his love of the nature of the hunt. i think that would be the best way to bring back a primarch and isha because it gives the eldar more credit, and it gives a reason for russ to not always be around to solve every problem the imperium may have as he has to do isha's bidding and help the craftworlders as much as he helps the imperium. this would also allow for more eldar content as having a human be a champion of isha would allow the unoffical alliance the factions have to be a bit more heavy alliance building. we already see the imperium start to be less xenophobic with the tau and even the necrons at times so honestly geting a stronger eldar/imperium alliance would be awesome

[@kenpatchiramasama1076]

you could also make the argument that her getting captured by Nurgle represents how the God of Decay became far better a representative god of the decaying remnants of the old Eldar empire than a goddess of Life

[@delta9915]

Thank you Pancreas for mentioning her marriage to Kurnous

[@willrogers3793]

12:27 This, but Russ and the Lion show up at the same time, almost get in a fistfight because they’re (or at least, Russ is) special like that, followed by a wacky Scooby-Doo chase through Nurgle’s mansion is my favorite “never gonna happen” scenario involving Isha escaping. On a less goofy note, I like to believe that She saw it when Big E set Nurgle’s garden on fire and was able to get a good chuckle out of it.

[@sovietunion7643]

mortarion just playing hide and seek with them in nurgle's garden till isha is freed and punches his stinky ass so hard he flies out of nurgle's realm

[@tomasmichaels642]

Pancreas, i can now happily announce your videos have encouraged me to begin buying/playing warhammer. I now wait patiently for The salamanders to get their time to shine

[@DINOROAR2912]

They never will 😈

[@TS-jm7jm]

"happily"

[@tomasmichaels642]

@@TS-jm7jm wym by that?

[@sovietunion7643]

im sorry for your wallet. may your spare income rest in peace.

[@TS-jm7jm]

@@tomasmichaels642 i hope you have deep pockets and a woman to stop you from mortgaging your house to pay for plastic crack

[@buwanbuwaya6927]

I just read Everqueen a fanfic AU, and I got to say and wonder of what could've been If she escaped

[@loppivoid9905]

finally, now Eldar content and its isha mommy eldar

[@alonsogutierrez9500]

Something I think you missed is that in Rise of the Ynnari, Lileath is the granddaughter of Morai-Heg and Daughter of Isha. Morai-Heg is only ever referred to as Khaine’s consort in older fantasy novels. This implies that Khaine is Isha’s Father.

[@alonsogutierrez9500]

Or Kurnous, but still. Dark.

[@Draxynnic]

Morai-Heg's in a bit of a weird position in that she was originally the Elfdar god of death, while also being the Crone part of a Crone-Mother-Maiden trinity with Isha and Lileath. Over time, however, she became marginalised in favour of concepts GW evidently found more interesting such is Ynnead and the overtly evil Ereth Khial. Would be hilarious (but probably would never happen), though, if Ynnead wakes up, the GW writers remember Morai-Heg, and pull a "Surprise, it was Morai-Heg coming back all along!" Which would also explain why Jain Zar seems to be possibly the Phoenix Lord most invested in Ynnead.

[@alonsogutierrez9500]

@@Draxynnic we can take this a step further. The elven gods in Fantasy are stated to be cyclical. Could Ynnead be Morai Heg’s reincarnation? Probably not, but it’s a fun idea.

[@Draxynnic]

@@alonsogutierrez9500 That was pretty much where I was thinking, yes. The biggest problem is, again, that Games Workshop replacing Morai-Heg with other gods in both settings suggests they've forgotten who she actually was.

[@hebrewman2638]

THE JAR

[@jonathanathor117]

0:23 Death from Neil Gaiman's sandman is pretty chill and rather wholesome.

[@calebharris292]

"death God as bad guy" is a largely modern concept

[@jonathanathor117]

@@calebharris292 oh yeah hades in Greek mythology is a somewhat "normal" guy, if you ignore the pomegranate

[@josephpolk9660]

4:00 *Here comes the Hurricane playing in the background as you get a 4k in valk with nano*

[@SimpleNobody2420]

I feel more sorry for Isha then The Emperor in 40K, because The Emperor kind of had it coming for his decisions especially around his Sons whilst Isha just wanted to see her children again as any loving mother would do.

[@baronvonjerch]

Why not have essentially an Exodite warrior cult devoted to breaking into the Garden of Nurgle and saving Isha. Having come close but failed multiple times they find an unlikely ally in Leman Russ, tying in his quest for the tree of life. He'd play a reluctant support role lending his knowledge of fighting in the warp in exchange for a promise that Isha will try to heal the Emperor. Could make for some great tense storytelling with both sides hiding a knife behind their backs, just in case.

[@Nukefandango]

I love it but get rid of Leman Russ.

[@BLANK-pr5qs]

@@Nukefandangolet’s be honest, with GW, it’s keep the Primarch or get nothing.

[@baronvonjerch]

@@Nukefandango Sadly, an Eldar story needs some Imperium starpower at its back. But definitely keep it minimal, just Leman Russ as a begrudging military advisor.

[@andrewarmstrong2586]

Someone get this man a job at GW

[@baronvonjerch]

@@andrewarmstrong2586 Thanks mate, I appreciate the vote of confidence 😁🤝 I do actually have aspirations to add my name to Black Library so who knows 👀

[@Streygenmoment]

Y'know what I think would be a cool idea for the Craftworld Eldar? If the different subfactions for them had their own index/codex supplements, where they give their own detachments and such that can add to the main Elder army. That way you can have technically standalone Eldar Armies, and then GW can add more units and models to those armies so that they can become standalone armies. Like, imagine having an index each for the Exodites, Harlequins, and Corsairs. That would be awesome, and it would give the Eldar roughly equal rules support to the Space Marines lol

[@delta9915]

One could dream

[@kazmark_gl8652]

In a healthy universe, 40k would have 4 versions of what the Imperium has now. the 4 main factions would be Imperium, Chaos, Eldar, and Xenos. each faction would have their marines equivalent, subdivided into smaller subfactions. a guard equivalent which would generally play in a kind of hoard mode, and then an elite army, filling Harliquins and Custodies niche. for Eldar, Craftworlds are their Marines Dark Eldar and their abominations fill their hoard role Harliquins as a super elite army and exodites as a Knights equivalent. for the Chaos faction CSM as the Marines, duh. Lost and Damned and deamons play hoard, deamons and CSM variants fill their elite they already have Chaos Knights. Then Xenos would be basically be cool but singular factions, and maybe they get one related half faction each, Tau and their allies, Tyranids and Genestealers, Orks, half junkyard half squig, and whatever other minor thing you want to introduce. every editon gets two phases. release sees huge faction against huge faction, and a edition release sees major faction components fight minor faction.

[@daklr2501]

all of this equivalent stuff is not only unfun in terms of balance, but also very clearly derivative at your conception. There would be no interest in playing across factions if there was a grand homogenization such as this. @@kazmark_gl8652

[@facelesscleric2744]

Too bad GW has been pretty committed to doing the opposite since they rolled Harlequins into the craftworld codex back in 9th edition.

[@Streygenmoment]

@@facelesscleric2744 yeahhhhhh

[@MelGibsonFan]

Dear Mr. Pancreas No Work, please do a video on the Orsimer (TES), maybe the ony redeemable mer in Tamriel.

[@Aceshot-uu7yx]

They aren't even comparable to mer. They are too good to be that deplorable family of slavers canabals and Nord toilet wipes.

[@Emanon...]

Yeah. The rest are some real pieces of work...

[@LastOptionPils]

The Dunmer are okay if you avoid anything House Dres has touched or if you look at the Telvanni like elven Skaven.

[@Aceshot-uu7yx]

@LastOptionPils so basically they all suck for a few? Wow, what an accomplishment for mer.

[@cyborgcatrj6794]

Thanks to the High Elves the bar is currently in Sithis, your average bandit can probably step over it without noticing. Though I do agree that orcs may be the only redeemable form of mer, if only because they’ve had their asses kicked enough times that they’ve gained some honour and humility.

[@sirhigglesworth]

7th edition lore also states that the Kroot of charoch humiliated the Sau’tekh dynasty by eating them after beating them so hard they left the planet they were fighting on (and then getting the flayer virus), so yes I agree such lore time periods are 100% canon Mr. Panc.

[@sirhigglesworth]

Sidenote, since that’s also Imotekh’s dynasty i’ve had hilarious mind image of one the strongest necron overlords losing to some random kroot shaper(s) for quite some time. Also also on the side note of 40k Isha being worshipped by exodites, I could see an agreement between Nurglite daemons and exodites on maiden worlds of the eldar and their cool stuff being protected in the sense that the daemons get to go nuts on any imperial or ork ships that to enter / invade the world (but not tyranids because nurgle hates tyranids). This would also mean the exodites would not have to call the harlequins every time the local imperials notice a maiden world (likely to Cegorach’s liking).

[@silentnight6810]

Ah yes, fauna stuck in nurgles [censored] jar

[@BlahBohogun]

The eldar psykers who became tree in nurgle garden at least get to be with their mother. Silverlining.

[@snowtrooper1188]

First, Pancreas may no work but play button does

[@GreedlingRush]

Man, I love Fauna

[@hangebza6625]

I would love to see the Exodites made big. I mean why do freaking clowns have more presentation than down-to-earth scifi elves which ride dragons and dinosaurs into battle, whose ancestors create a planet spanning network of interconnected souls (a world soul if you will) and who could have all awesome manner of bioengineered planimals and interesting critters. Whoever plaid age of wobsers planetfall cannot deny that an alien t rex with lasers on its head is a cool concept

[@Mechagodzilla128]

21:15 Actually, there is another. The Outsider is the last fully formed non-shattered C'tan whom also ate several other C'tan. Not only that, but in 3rd edition it was hinted at being the Tyranid hive mind. It could match Isha in terms of scale, and could even provide a cool rematch kind of campaign event.

[@pjmetzen3483]

My hope is that if GW ever wills it Mortarion breaks her out and switches from being the Demon Prince of Nurgal to being a Agent of Isha or something

[@ThatRatBastard]

I know it'd be better for the Eldar as a faction if she freed herself, but I think it'd be cool if Big E worked through Lion El Johnson to help the Eldar break Isha out of Nurgles Garden and a new Eldar character winds up becoming a 40k equivalent of Alarielle who ends up fighting back to back with the Lion as a sort of paladin and cleric duo for a brief period. Might just be me wanting more positive interactions between the Imperium and Eldar but I think it'd be really cool.

[@johnsmithington99]

Even just the mention makes me excited for the future Tyrion video

[@ricijs2000]

i would like to imagine she gets rescued by Leman Russ whos going on a complete rampage trough the chaos realms looking for 'tree of life'' and stumbles uppon her by chance ''....welp you aint a tree but this will do''

[@Fred-bw3no]

Phase Connect is pretty cool, but next time you want to relax, Fauna is pretty great. Whenever the chaos gets too much :)

[@KarlFranz5017]

Great video. Now do one where you explain why Bretonnians are better than elves

[@DetectiveLance]

I admit, good sir, that i dont simp for the elves like you do...that said, I advocate hard for Isha's return, with no strings attached if she got some outside help.

[@BasicallyBaconSandvichIV]

Somebody should make sure Fauna reacts to this. It'll be at least quite entertaining to see her try to figur out what the hell everything means and what she has to do with it all.

[@addisonwelsh]

I think there is a way to have both the Eldar and a Primarch rescue Isha. Have a major Eldar character or a group of Harlequins invade Nurgle realm like that leper Craftworld (yes, that is how I'm going to refer to them) and have them bump into Russ or the Lion of the way. The two help each other, Isha is freed, and everyone goes home happy.

[@JanitorScruffy]

I leave the video playing in the background while I go something else. I come back to Pipkin Pippa and restart the entire video to see what I missed that made that happen.

[@jdrdoom3705]

Your choice to portrait Cegorach as Pippa made me chuckle.

[@vicenteabalosdominguez5257]

Nurgle being fond of Isha makes sense. Both are gods of life, Nurgle being a god of microscopic life.

[@t_hetty1758]

It would be pretty cool if isha can get shattered in nurgles realm and then some pieces of her go to different exodite clans. Gives her new lore and allows the exodite to flow into the tabletop. Also would be cool if isha because of this split becomes a “man on the inside” against nurgle and can aid more in the fight against his diseases. In short please gw gimme my Dino elves with a life goddess.

[@frostatine]

Those lore ideas are legitimately great. 10/10 would paint with naturally sources pigments.

[@hemorrhoidman1691]

Just found this channel. I love everything about it.

[@jaknova1]

Pippa being the clown god is gold 😂

[@deathjester2000]

love the content!

[@donnylurch4207]

I like what you suggested at the end, about Isha as angry forest spirit. Imagine the conflicts we can play out between Leagues of Votann forces trying to colonize and mine a world inhabited by Exodites!

[@Hadthese]

excellent vod!

[@caesarcaetalion9672]

I haven't watched a tone of Phase Connect but that's about as close to a recommendation as I'm getting, so, thank you friend. Loved the video, as always, hope you're well. Thanks for inspiring me to try the Wood Elves in Total War! I'll let you know how it goes next video lol

[@beedrillbot121]

I just looked up the Exodites and they look pretty cool, considering they are Space Elves riding Dinosaurs. Imagine Nurgle just tending to his garden only for a Space T. Rex with like two heads or whatever to come roaring in ridden by some wraith construct Eldar. If they added space dinosaurs as a faction, I honestly think that them and the Tau would be enough to convince me to get them. I even know what I would want to paint them. For the Exodites I would paint the dinosaurs like they are from the Chaos Effect toy line. While the Elves have colors based off those worn by InGen employees in the first 2 JP movies. Whereas for the Tau I would paint the mechs after the Mechs in Dragon’s Heaven (cause hand drawn mechs look cool and are appealing to the eyes.) and maybe paint the Tau soldiers with elite colors for them. Oh and I guess the Tau drones could easily be painted after sentinels, especially since the early storyboards version of the Halo 1 sentinels reminds me of the Tau Drones.

[@TJK10]

“My little Isha, my little Isha, I~ love you~” >Nurgle sang, as he reached for the jar, loosening the lid in preparation for another “deposit.”

[@justanotherguy6345]

Excited for the Cegorach vid

[@Evangel-aclr]

It be nice to see the Eldar to actually get a W for once instead of constant Ls I swear it's like the Eldar are just GWs favorite punching bags

[@grayrook8637]

Yes please Alriel video. Also I say this as someone who really came around to Wood Elves as my now favorite Total War faction: Do or Dont Wood Elves. Just the funnest playthrough around.

[@UGNAvalon]

Still waiting for the day you use more Holotubers to represent the various Warhammer deities. Off the top of my head: -Marine as Slaanesh (or maybe ProjektMelody/ShyLily/one of their friends) -Bae as Great Horned Rat -Polka/Pekora as Cegorach -Kaela as Vaal or a Dwarven smith god -Calli as Nightbringer --Suisei- Suicopath as -Khorne- Khaine -Mumei as Sigmar &/or Emps ? -Gura & Biboo as Gork & Mork bc why not And probably a lot more that I can’t think of bc I’m not that deep into the rabbit hole yet.

[@martinconway8174]

I’ve got a mate who has kitbashed a bunch of Exodites. They’re Raptor riding Eldar, with armour of stone. They’re kickass

[@hurricanev6]

4:37 come to the forest, my friend. Being a sapling is pleasant, and sometimes creepy.

[@CynicalPete]

Here’s a great way to kill two birds with one stone: have the Ynarri work with the Exodites to free Isha in order to gain her protection from Slaanesh so they can attempt to get the last Crone Sword. Obviously don’t let that happen right away, but I think it could be an interesting ongoing story for two of the most underutilized factions

[@elizabethmilward8301]

Isha might also have been helping with logistics. Armies require a lot of food, and producing that food and getting it to the soldiers can be a massive pain for the people in charge of that army. If Isha's making sure they're consistently having bumper harvests with few pest and weed problems, she's more than doing her part.

[@arieloliver3219]

It would be nice to see pancreasnowork talking about the emperor not as a low tier god but the big man himself

[@blackmonish]

This entire video, I was thinking "exodites, Exodites, EXODITES," Not only could they make them relevant in the narrative(/tabletop), but a nice prophecy or two could incorporate Isha and other gods... and maybe, just maybe... all those different prophecies could lead each Eldar faction to the same place- the final crone sword in the realm of Slaanesh. (Please see this Pancreas! Love your work man!)

[@1984Bergeron]

I love how hilarious your videos are

[@xyro3633]

Never thought I'd hear Percy Jackson being referenced in a antipancreas video

[@anthraxcrab3238]

I want Russ to walk out of the warp with isha just so we can get a exodite army led by a interesting eldar character, looking at you yivvraine

[@Lunch_Meat]

Seeing that GW seems to be pushing more and more for the imperium to work more and more with SOME xenos in order to help fight off the bigger foes (chaos, nids, maybe orks) isha coming back and the eldar having a huge "fuck yeah" moment seems like a good way to stabalize the great rift and handle chaos more over all. It advances the plot quite a bit.

[@jedediahcoulbourne1791]

From Slaanesh's moist and sticky grip to Nurgle's sticky and moist grip

[@papathicctm6465]

Pancreas watching the Sad Girls Company just feels right in a cosmic way.

[@hitmanmaloe]

If I was sitting down while listening to this I would have relaxed so hard with the age of mythology music in the background

[@michimatsch5862]

"Isha we need your help over here" "He told me uh, ih, uh, a-a..."

[@supersaiyandiclonius3056]

Back when the Jaine Zar vs Drahzar box set first dropped. I considered using to make a Homebrew Isha themed warband. The base armor would be forest green, the Incubi horns would be wood brown, and the Howling Banshees flame crest things would be painted like leaves with Jaine Zar's going from green to yellow to orange to red to brown. ...Then I saw the price and just bought my first set of Ork Boyz.

[@zachm5485]

Instead of a primarch freeing Isha, Isha should break out herself, find a primarch just lost in the warp, and decide to keep him as a pet. Exodites are added to 40K, and Leman Russ is also there