"Trying To Stoke Up A Culture War" | Alex Phillips On Transgender Puberty Blockers

Labour is set to take a tougher stance on transgender issues, with plans to make the ban on puberty blockers for kids permanently.
Health Secretary Wes Streeting aims to stop powerful hormone blockers from being given to children, pending a legal hearing's outcome.
Victoria Atkins, his predecessor, had already banned these blockers from being supplied to children by private or off-shore clinics through emergency legislation before the general election. This ban is set to expire on September 3.
Now, Labour plans to extend the ban indefinitely. Streeting emphasised, “We will always prioritise children’s safety,” and highlighted Dr. Cass’s review, which found insufficient evidence to prove puberty blockers are safe for under-18s.
Alex Phillips speaks with transgender activist Debbie Hayton.
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[@talktv]

Do you agree with Labour and Wes Streeting's stance on banning puberty blockers permanently?

[@totallybonkers2447]

Yes first thing ever I’ve agreed with labour on 😊

[@glenntoplis8872]

Yes the only thing I agree with Labour.

[@FDCAFOK]

YES!! Stop the abuse!

[@ivang1964]

Fair play to Steeting but he’s sealed his fate! Like Starmer he’ll be gone in 18months

[@jaderington]

No its cruel child abuse

[@monkeymagic00001]

Any adult who believes in giving children puberty blockers should be prevented from ever being left alone with children or vulnerable people, that includes doctors.

[@SheridanM-dc1nk]

A lot of people still believe the nonsense that blockers are a “pause button”. They’re not. They prevent you from ever going through puberty. So essentially, we’ve got a lot of adults championing halting the development of vulnerable children. Take from that what you will.

[@cheesepuff65]

you are, quite frankly, horrible for saying that. what, people who advocate for gender affirming care shown to be fully reversible should be called pedos? why, because they care about kids?

[@number_48]

Anyone pushing this tripe on children should be imprisoned. Vile abuse in the name of "caring". When did we become so stupid!!!

[@pickleperryemz]

When they started sending nearly 50% of the population to be indoctrinated by malevolent educators in universities who knew they were easily able to manipulate the dullards who have been told they are clever.

[@simonking5863]

Alex Philips is a ray of shining light and normality

[@samuelchandler7612]

She's a breath of fresh air

[@rubiccube8953]

Stonewall had run out of campaigns so pushed on trans issues to validate their existence.

[@briancrellin2441]

Got to keep the funding rolling in!

[@LucyOLastic]

Perhaps gays have run out of fight. They have achieved legal recognition. Gay marriage is legal. Equality achieved. They do not see the campaign for trans rights to be their issue, being gender based as opposed to sex-based. For the gay community it is more about who you sleep with. Now we have the breakaway LGB Alliance. LGB - T. They no longer are given to the gaudy displays of "Pride," turning instead to a kind of stuffy conservativism. Many seem to gravitate to the right wing....their traditional enemy, even presenting in their news media, making assaults on trans or "woke" issues. Trans are exposed to the same abuse previously given to gay people. The same rhetoric. Stonewall have taken up the fight for TG rights, since they have been thrown under the bus over concerns about the Gender Recognition Act. Instead of amending flaws of the legislation, attention has turned to making attacks on the integrity of trans people. "Trans women are not women." Kellie Jay Keen puts up hoardings displaying the biological definition of "woman." She knew exactly who she wished to offend. JK Rowling adds to the chorus with her considerable wealth and even political influence.

[@kathleenmatthews6145]

I agree.

[@katcankan7129]

Not just JK Rowlings fighting. everyone with common sense and a backbone is also fighting too.

[@roymurthick]

How dare you all as a proud lefty/trans/woke activist you all offend me and children / hold on just took my medication ignore that rubbish back to a normal person now🤣

[@Mary-lx3zs]

IT'S SIMPLY CHILD ABUSE

[@cheesepuff65]

child abuse is denying a kid life saving medical care

[@tokyosundeiru2006]

What life saving medical care, are you talking about? Kidney failure? Cancer? Mental health?

[@cheesepuff65]

@@tokyosundeiru2006 i'm talking about real risk of one taking one's own life without this care, making it life saving.

[@tokyosundeiru2006]

@@cheesepuff65 I see your point and understand, but how common is it? I am denied puberty blockers, “fair enough!” Or I am denied puberty blockers, “I will take my life in retaliation!”

[@pickleperryemz]

@cheesepuff65 read the stats and weep, it’s not life saving but it’s certainly life changing.

[@marcussparticus8380]

Disgusting state sanctioned child abuse. The idea that any organisation can be sexualy abusive to the most vulnerable is beyond my comprehension. Why are they not being brought before the courts for trial. They need to be named and shamed, so the whole world can know who exactly they are.

[@unowen-nh9ov]

No point taking the dysphoric to court while they are calling the police for being misgendered, just gives them more oxygen & spotlight for attention & martyrdom.

[@rachellandry3116]

name: Hermetic Gnosticism shame: grooming children for transformational magickal rites for the Aeon of Horus

[@roymurthick]

please explain to me a lot of labour support this crap yet people voted for them what is going on

[@TheNames-4D]

Children can’t get tattoos, drink alcohol, drive cars, vote. There’s a whole slew of “things” we say, as children, you’re not “adult” enough, to understand. Puberty is a hard part of every single persons life. It’s a part of your life where you go from, child, to adult. Go though it, then you’ll see life very differently. Ask any adult! Then. If you feel like changing you’re body. That’s now you’re choice.

[@cyberleaderandy1]

Absolutely agree but the crazy liberals think its absolutely fine because their ideology is such they will not accept reality if it interferes with ideology.

[@cheesepuff65]

puberty blockers are temporary, so all of your comparisons are already pretty bad. now, as for making them go through puberty first, studies have shown the majority of kids who identify as trans will go on to continue to identify as trans. now, for puberty being hard. trans people on puberty blockers still go through it. once you take hormones, your body goes through the puberty associated with them, which i've always found actually fascinating.

[@TheNames-4D]

@@cheesepuff65 drinking alcohol is temporary….. what the heck is your point! NO ONE is trapped in the wrong body. If so. Where is the right one? And who did it?

[@TheNames-4D]

@@cheesepuff65 also. While your asking such silly questions let me also point out. There are men who say they are women. And women, who think they are men. So there’s only men, and, woman….. if not, why do they feel trapped in the “wrong” body……? Answering the question of. How many genders are there… the answer is two. 👌👍🏼 learn something every day hu.

[@pickleperryemz]

@cheesepuff65 yet more lies. ‘Puberty blockers’ are the same drugs they use to chemically castrate pdfiles, they are not safe nor have ever been deemed medically fit to be given to children for any reason. Stop pretending this is anything more than experimentation on vulnerable children.

[@dcollins4679]

Concocting the myth of the "trans child" is an attempt to validate mature men in their claims about a paraphilia, namely AGP.

[@SheridanM-dc1nk]

@@dcollins4679 spot on

[@dalidaz72]

Alex is a total breath of fresh air her opinions on this country are fantastic 👌👌👌👌👌

[@nowgrownup]

Totally agree 😂😂😂😂

[@markgilbert1033]

Thank god people are speaking out about this exploitation

[@bo2720]

A lot of people agree its madness. They dont dare speak out because everyone is afraid of.... what, exactly? An unseen threat? The emperor that has no clothes?I do speak out but thats because I dont care. Having said that it's also easier for me, because I am gay. Which is ridiculous and unfair but gay people can speak out easier than the rest.

[@Grassdancer-ib2lw]

To imagine how many children, who were simply bullied, felt not accepted.. have reached for this 'magical solution', is terrifying. It offered sudden protection, a special status, for a price they were not able to understand, but which they will have to pay for the rest of their lives. Not kindness, but absolute cruelty.

[@justmyopinion526]

Yes ! this has been brutal to watch from the side lines and begs the question who allowed it to go forward? Everything always gets shoved under the carpet. :/ It took politics to make it happen. It was like the adults left the room!!

[@SheridanM-dc1nk]

@@Grassdancer-ib2lw you only have to look at Jazz Jennings to see his is NEVER the right decision. Jazz was on blockers from very young, then hormones, and all the surgery. Effectively, he passes. But he is depressed and feels dissociated from his body, in his own words.

[@Abi-kk4nl]

Children are being punished for being traumatized or mentally vulnerable, or gay kids who have the misfortune of growing up during this homophobic regressive movement. Conversion therapy 2.0

[@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511]

@@SheridanM-dc1nk i check in from time to time to see if he has offed himself. i think it inevitable

[@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511]

it was obvious from the first moment i saw it, 6/8 years ago, that he was the victim of a munchausen mother

[@Rightchickenwing]

We need common sense people in high places like J K Rowling

[@unowen-nh9ov]

So their lives can be threatened & they can be falsely accused of transphobia while fighting for women's & children's rights, terfisaslur.

[@karenunsworth7973]

Child abuse

[@Abi-kk4nl]

Protect gay youth from puberty blockers!

[@unowen-nh9ov]

& homophobic gender reassignment.

[@ijansk]

Homophobes are happy to harm gay kids, so they will support transactivism.

[@unowen-nh9ov]

& predatory dysphoric gender warriors.

[@nowgrownup]

Proves you do not understand puberty blocker are for trans not gay .... 😂😂

[@sylviabarnes480]

Proves you do not understand there are no trans children and a large number of these children being put on this 'trans' pathway are same sex attracted. ​@@nowgrownup

[@scottcyoung]

Why are you calling this person you're chatting with Debbie? It's a bloke!

[@sjl197]

Why are you being an obnoxious a-hole to someone without cause?

[@j.j.l.]

It’s probably his legal name, lol.

[@loricircuit6903]

why do you think I want to hear from a man posing as a woman,? Mr Hayton's opinions or his ratings for these policies which are so critically important to women & children - are not what I seek. He even suggested JK Rowling not be so vocal when responding about trans issues, he wishes to curate and edit the female voice (in spite of his milk toast mannerisms) - I don't find him trustworthy or a source of good information.

[@herbertlongfellow7702]

Totally agree. Pupils at the school he teaches at are compelled to play along with his fetish. He also campaigns to normalise AGPs

[@ninjac8866]

'Debbie' also helped produce the NASWUT Trans Equality in Schools and Colleges guidance. The document promotes the concept of the trans child and says that you must use preferred pronouns and anyone can access the toilets aligned with their gender identity. He is a wolf in sheep's clothing and does not have any care for women or girls.

[@kevin982]

I'm very surprised that Labour are doing this. Good on them but I'll still reserve judgement.

[@sueedwards9334]

They know that a sizeable number of Islamists voted for them and they want to keep their vote. Prior to the election they ALWAYS promoted gender ideology and medicalisation of children.

[@petethefeet1461]

how many kids down the road will be traumatized having lost there womanhood or manhood

[@unowen-nh9ov]

It's already happened.

[@herbertlongfellow7702]

David Hayton is no campaigner for women's rights.

[@lucystephenson3241]

David Hayton is a sexual deviant, end of. He hides behind the gender critical mask to peddle his perversion

[@lco7080]

Hayton campaigns for Hayton's rights

[@dean-gm1lg]

As much as don’t like labour they have got this one right ,let’s see if they can keep it up

[@sueedwards9334]

They are again pandering to their Islamist voter base.

[@joso7228]

insiders says most labour mps are aware of problems like this but are treading carefully through the woke minefield.

[@AllanHinde-mb2pr]

The war is already here

[@russellwilliams1163]

Yes the Marxist culture war started by the Marxists is well under way.

[@sueedwards9334]

The only reason for having this man on this channel is to show everyone what a completely nonsensical ideology he promotes. He might seem to be ‘friendly’ to women, but his very existence contradicts that

[@lco7080]

Has Debbie Hayton retracted the advice he wrote for the teaching union, that boys should be allowed in girls' spaces if those boys call themselves girls?

[@user-xn9ih5uy3f]

Great Program! Blockers shold be blocked, it isn't rocket science!

[@elizabethjohnston3549]

Look at david, pretending hes relevant speaking about women

[@KamuiJenny]

This just shouldn't be a choice offered to people. Not by the NHS anyway. It's not medicine. It's medical harm.

[@mandystone8970]

I love Alex Phillips. She will not be silenced

[@JoeCarroll-tr5hw]

It’s been blackrock and vanguard pushing for this madness.

[@ironmage6105]

Was taken a-back by Wes Streeting's decision but also pleasantly surprised

[@sueedwards9334]

The noisy Islamists were no doubt the reason, as it has always been labour policy to support trans ideology. They just decided that Islamists are a more important minority than trans.

[@lindalaw5466]

I’d like to know how Dave’s children feel about his actions too.

[@stuartofblyth]

"Born in the wrong body". What does that even MEAN?

[@JonathanRedden-wh6un]

We have been informed that there are a thousand legal cases waiting in the courts against the Tavistock Clinic. Since then there has been silence as we wait the outcomes of these cases.

[@johnnybgood5836]

this is a bloke, right?

[@lisac1619]

100%. He gets off on people going along with his fetish

[@starlightsign8666]

Such men think these drugs simply save one from having to shave one’s chest….

[@Abi-kk4nl]

They have such a narcissistic way of thinking so they say we dont truly care about childrens well being. The fact that i am expected to support this as a lesbian is ridiculous and insulting, because it affects so many gay kids

[@SheridanM-dc1nk]

@@Abi-kk4nl they have to demonise us, otherwise the cognitive dissonance takes over. The amount of gay teenagers who have been told they’re not gay they’re in the wrong body - PROVES this is a homophobic movement

[@unowen-nh9ov]

The rainbow has been corrupted from inclusion to minority special interest.

[@iangillon6981]

God help our Children.

[@stopanimalcruelty298]

Talk , never let Alex go , she is fab

[@HeathsH76]

It is sick

[@JesusNeves-oo9sq]

Labour doing something that's actually right? I must be dreaming. This has been needed for a long time.

[@joescott54]

Stop dictating young lives... If they feel they need to be "different" in later years, then it's up to them if they want to "change", so leave them alone...

[@sueedwards9334]

Why have Labour drastically changed their stance on this?? They want to keep the Islamic vote.

[@skik6313]

Alex,you are fantastic

[@lippydavisdavis5475]

starmer and co cant even define what a woman is 😂😂

[@grahamcook9289]

Is "Debbie' really Bracket from Hinge and Bracket?

[@fionacarroll5562]

Ha ha ha🤣🤣🤣

[@lisapearson6455]

That takes me back 😂😂

[@macfaichen2658]

Back to Christianity please

[@SheridanM-dc1nk]

I am so bored of hearing from that Hayton bloke, he’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

[@harrisonj0679]

There is no trans 😂😂😂🤡🤡

[@mabelheinzle2275]

Good work Alex

[@esme68]

How about "My parents failed me"?

[@justmyopinion526]

Yes that is true but the system of paid care ( through taxes) allowed the politics to push this agenda so the system failed them. Follow the money and the ideologies.

[@russellwilliams1163]

Trotsky called for permanent revolution to destroy Christian values

[@jimbanda]

The Pride Pipers I say 😢

[@pompom4375]

That's really smart 👍🏼

[@RobKing25]

What a great way of putting it.

[@NewMinority]

What grown adult would even think blockers are acceptable 😮 and are they in a position of power? 😮

[@Hilooknofurther]

Debbie Hayton is an amazing voice. She is the best advocate for common sense. Debbie has restored my faith in this whole gender thing and I wish her all the best and strength to keep delivering her important message. Good on you Debbie - thank you for all you do!

[@lco7080]

Google AGP

[@grahamthacker6498]

What is that thing with white hair?

[@JuniperThornton-ny1oq]

That’s incredibly rude and uncalled for.

[@Electriclentilman]

Debbie ?

[@SheridanM-dc1nk]

His name is David

[@cdrone4066]

Let’s not be petty, it’s unattractive.

[@king77703]

Debbie does Lads Ass 👍

[@EmilySeeker]

Finally a trans activist with some common sense

[@An-Alien-On-Earth]

No wonder aliens have never visited earth

[@fastbandit1250]

What about all the oestrogen in water turning men into rainbows

[@Lenny35]

I can’t remember any of this madness before Bruce Genner.👎🏿

[@margaretfleming3554]

Thank goodness Labour have made one good decision. This is down to the Cass Report. That said, thank goodness for women like KJ Rowling and Kellie-Jay Keen and organisations like Sex Matters. Debbie Hayton is one brave trans woman too! Respect to you, I can only guess at the abuse you must experience.

[@SuperRickyjenkins]

That is a man speaking there with the red top on. im not having im the only one that can blatently see through the disguise.

[@MissLatondiqua]

Labour party bringing feces in already. Well.... what did you expect 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@annettebaskerville7069]

support Kellie Jay Keen. she has been trying to protect children from this madness for years.

[@belindakennedy5828]

Let the country decide hold a referendum on it.

[@user-yq3nu5hd6n]

Totally useless labour Just the beginning

[@peteraston4753]

I remember when cicumcission was a medical procedjure not a life style choice

[@petertaylor6384]

What a fantastic proposal by labour. Bravo 👏 permanently banned

[@sueedwards9334]

It wasn’t their idea - it was already in place. They clearly realised their Islamic voter base wouldn’t like it if they reversed the ban.

[@christopherjones6170]

Alex you speak the truth

[@lesleymaclennan7899]

Love Alex , The voice of common sense ❤

[@simonbreetzke438]

Well done Debbie. Thank you for the dose of common sense

[@joso7228]

Can we take Woke Propaganda out of Schools next? There is no place for any type of sex talk or books in schools except in Sex Education at a reasonable age.

[@sarral2008]

Thank god for sensible people like Debby.

[@loa4441]

Debbie is so sensible and intelligent, i can respect her for that

[@SheridanM-dc1nk]

@@loa4441 her? Her? Really?!

[@beverlyhills8988]

​@SheridanM-dc1nk right 🤣 even if "passing" did make a difference, he doesn't pass by any stretch of the imagination.

[@SheridanM-dc1nk]

@@beverlyhills8988 hahaha exactly! He’s just a 60 year old bloke.

[@herbertlongfellow7702]

No he isn't. No campaigner for women. At all. He's a creep.

[@karenf1001]

How very sensible Debbie is. You could have a great conversation with her

[@DebbieHutchinson-kv8bd]

Every kind of wrong!

[@phoenixrising6245]

LOVE Debbie!! He talks NOTHING BUT SENSE!!...and, yes, he regards himself as a man, so I'm not trying to be offensive!!!

[@rayofsunshine427]

I wonder how much gender reassignment is costing the NHS?

[@alanknight8439]

KZbin just removed my comment which basically restated what these two people have just said.

[@mlondon1157]

That thumbnail is a bit misleading, made it look like Alex and Debbie were having an argument, which I thought was odd because Debbie is always so mild mannered during interviews.

[@markchawner1586]

Sign of the Times, and now Sad Times .... And, now enhanced by having a new Labour Government 😎

[@NadineGardner-ws2tw]

You cannot block Nature .

[@patrickwalker-nolan7617]

Wes Streeting has done well. Let’s hope that this continues. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@bampitony6108]

That bloke is a joke..The Fochriw male voice choir looking for members. ..😂😂😂

[@king77703]

He/she hasn't got a member 👍

[@AnonCaliga]

Debbie??? Don’t you mean ‘No Dentures Dave’ ffs 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@unlikeable8619]

Ban Labour.

[@Jormunguandr]

age restriction is in order.

[@19thFoot]

Thank you Elon Musk for X and showing us the truth

[@unowen-nh9ov]

HAH!!!

[@thewomble465]

no one mentioned that there is a connection between Autism and Gender dysmorphia there the children who need protecting for making life changing medical changes .

[@Fjorsleeptoken]

Wes streeting is a joke he had no choice but push for the ban

[@BassistPaul]

@ 7:00: "Where did this all come from? Indeed.

[@user-gq1ib6ng2c]

Keep it up Alex, go girl❤

[@tokyosundeiru2006]

Yeah, trans! I am no longer a part of the imperial oppression!

[@j.j.l.]

How do you feel about women’s rights and women’s spaces, Debbie?

[@PINKPHE0NIX]

🙌Alex

[@Britsishmum7695]

It’s about the only thing Labour have done so far that is the right thing to do and I admire them not dithering like the tories did. I have to say I admire Debbie Hatton, she’s transitioned quietly and respectfully, no fuss , no drama and stands up for what is right👍🏻

[@breaghboo-gc7ub]

But he's a man

[@docdynamix]

Men in dresses 👗 😂

[@karen7437]

Here here in Jordan Peterson;s words leave them hell alone kids will decide for then when they are adults they will find who they need to be

[@stevenpower811]

The would love you to keep stum so they can get on with there agenda in peace

[@markgregory7140]

The curious Christian Alex strikes again

[@helenwilliams6366]

???? And what is that supposed to mean?

[@markgregory7140]

@@helenwilliams6366 You either know or you don't know

[@markgregory7140]

And I'm guessing you don't know