Tsar of Battle: Late WW2 Soviet Artillery Doctrine

  Рет қаралды 268,564

Battle Order

Battle Order

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 442
@BattleOrder
@BattleOrder 4 жыл бұрын
This was a basic by-the-books look at Soviet artillery practice during late WW2. This is a very complex topic with a lot of moving parts, so if you have some good sources (especially contradictory ones as long as they're credible) I'd be happy to see them.
@HuLou
@HuLou 4 жыл бұрын
You’re actually first.
@genius1d2
@genius1d2 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I would love to see more deep dives of WW2 artillery tactics and doctrine for all sides. Artillery doesn't get nearly enough attention for how important it was.
@BeelzebulKlendathu
@BeelzebulKlendathu 4 жыл бұрын
drive.google.com/file/d/1mKs-_aRXlS23lng42Frcg_R4WaK40vp9/view?usp=sharing This covers ammunition and other materiel supply for the artillery in major operations of the war. Lots of data on ammunition delivery, consumption and so on (in Russian).
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain 4 жыл бұрын
CAN'T WAIT! A really interesting video on a criminally under covered topic. Could you do a detailed video on the various types of Soviet and Nazi Armored trains and how they were used? Because that's ANOTHER barely covered topic.
@bwcmakro
@bwcmakro 3 жыл бұрын
So... that never happened, huh?
@brettsteele6551
@brettsteele6551 4 жыл бұрын
My German grandfather, Karl Buehler, and Burgermeister of Brackenheim during the 1950s, finally shared with me in 1988 his experience of being on the receiving end of a Soviet artillery barrage on the opening day of Operation Bagration in a concrete communication/observation bunker. The intensity was so utterly shocking and debilitating that Opa and his unit never detected the Soviet infantry crossing the river they were observing. As a result, when the infantry attacked their bunker with grenades , they were taken completely by surprise and those who survived were in a helpless daze when captured. So yes, Opa really respected the Soviet infantry forces for their astonishing ability to attack without being detected until it was too late. He also sang praises for Soviet medical care, given how well a female surgeon treated his wounded leg courtesy of that grenade attack.
@HaHaeTs
@HaHaeTs 4 жыл бұрын
Gott sei dank i studied German at the university so I know what Opa means, but for others - it's "grandpa" :) An interesting story though, thank you and Grüße aus Russland!
@davideb.4290
@davideb.4290 4 жыл бұрын
@@HaHaeTs it's easily understandable, I'm italian and never studied nor heard german but I could easily understand that Opa means grandpa
@HaHaeTs
@HaHaeTs 4 жыл бұрын
@@davideb.4290 wow, well, maybe with other european languages it's more understandable, for me as a russian it's just... well, it's just Opa, "grandpa" is "Dedushka" in russian so no connection there, i wouldn't have any idea
@IK-so2bm
@IK-so2bm 4 жыл бұрын
Kudos to your grandfather for being unbiased and informative. Soviet artillery might is simply brushed off by Western propaganda, but we now know the true story. Long live the Red Army and its brave soldiers.
@calebr908
@calebr908 4 жыл бұрын
@@HaHaeTs in Canada we have all kinds of people so I recognized it just from my countrymens culture.
@xirensixseo
@xirensixseo 4 жыл бұрын
the next time my oppnents complain about me using 152mm howitzer spam in company of heroes 2 i can just reply "doctrine requirements, from our comrade commander"
@pavelslama5543
@pavelslama5543 3 жыл бұрын
when I spam multible B-4 howitzers in MoW AS2 :D
@spinosaurusiii7027
@spinosaurusiii7027 Жыл бұрын
So true Though sadly the ML-20 is rather mediocre
@xahmadx6442
@xahmadx6442 9 ай бұрын
I'm not spamming I'm just following Doctrine
@borisxanovavich4466
@borisxanovavich4466 4 жыл бұрын
This video was great! People often forget that artillery was the most important ground support arm, and it isn't often that Soviet doctrine is covered. Nice to see both happen
@johnd2058
@johnd2058 4 жыл бұрын
11:40 -- the application against the prescribed German hasty counterattack is especially brilliant, I must say.
@MrSnoopy100
@MrSnoopy100 4 жыл бұрын
Usually soviet doctrine is considered "just throw your men at enemy with machine guns, you have more people than they have bullets"
@johnd2058
@johnd2058 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrSnoopy100 ...when ackchulee, on the strategic level, it's more like, "Prove the superiority of Socialist Industry by manufacturing enough weaponry to equip every man, woman, and child who has ever lived with enough raw firepower to conceivably kill every other man, woman, and child who has ever lived. Full auto machine-gun moad is default." www.pinterest.com/pin/699324648373200378/
@VersusARCH
@VersusARCH 4 жыл бұрын
Yup. Tanks may have proved to be the deciding factor on the tactical level, airpower on the operational level and logistics on the strategic level but it was still the old school artillery that caused the most battlefield casualties.
@wtfbros5110
@wtfbros5110 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrSnoopy100 we have Enemy at the Gates to thank for that
@LeeRenthlei
@LeeRenthlei 4 жыл бұрын
"God fights on the side with the best artillery" -Napoleon
@sulc4092
@sulc4092 3 жыл бұрын
If I am not mistaken he also coined the term "cannon fodder" as he witnesed infantry columns getting shreded by artillery
@dimitrypetrenko3470
@dimitrypetrenko3470 3 жыл бұрын
"The Artillery is the King of the battlefield while the Infantry is the Queen and we knew damn well what the king does to a queen"
@ДокторЯдо
@ДокторЯдо 2 жыл бұрын
@@sulc4092 "Cannon fodder" is at least as old as Shakespeare.
@sulc4092
@sulc4092 2 жыл бұрын
@@ДокторЯдо Okay I was wrong
@2ndcomingofFritz
@2ndcomingofFritz Жыл бұрын
@@dimitrypetrenko3470so the cavalry (modern equivalent of course being armoured vehicles) is the servant or what? Doesn’t seem right…
@billyponsonby
@billyponsonby 2 жыл бұрын
Perspective: 8 out of 10 German combatants killed in WWII died on the Eastern front. Soviet artillery had a lot to do with this.
@lebien4554
@lebien4554 2 жыл бұрын
Alle 7 Sekunden stirbt ein deutscher Soldat. Stalingrad, Massengrab! Every seven seconds a German soldier dies. Stalingrad - mass grave
@taxidermypolarbear1724
@taxidermypolarbear1724 Жыл бұрын
Wow that’s a crazy number
@Blueboy0316
@Blueboy0316 Жыл бұрын
Who gave the soviets ammo for their rifles, boots for their feet, fuel for their tanks and radios for communication...
@barbarapitenthusiast7103
@barbarapitenthusiast7103 Жыл бұрын
​@@Blueboy0316 leand lease came in 1943 after stalingrad. The West didnt provide any weapons or ammunition. The soviets had more than enough fuel, and thats why the West didnt provide aot of it. The only thing the leand lease actualy provided were boots and canned food
@f-35enjoyer59
@f-35enjoyer59 Жыл бұрын
@@barbarapitenthusiast7103 You neglected to mention that the US gave the Soviets 1/3 of the USSR’s trucks and 99% of trains and rolling stock.
@kaletovhangar
@kaletovhangar 4 жыл бұрын
Recently I was reading Fall of Third Reich by Vasiliy Chuikov (commander of 62nd, later renamed 8th guards army)in which he describes events from operation Bagration up to fall of Berlin and I remember his mentioning of dilemmas about length of time of artillery preparatory fire and how,when and where to advance his units and problems like difficulty in detecting when Germans will stay to take fight or flee to second line of defense, and this video expanded on this tremendously,thank you.
@ВикторКутузов-й6э
@ВикторКутузов-й6э 4 жыл бұрын
Chuikov was also winner of Stalingrad - just an addition to your great comment;)
@kaletovhangar
@kaletovhangar 4 жыл бұрын
@@ВикторКутузов-й6э Yes,I know that, and also read his memoirs about it.
@tzeentchnianexaltedsorcero2041
@tzeentchnianexaltedsorcero2041 4 жыл бұрын
They creep their barrage to the second line, so it's all good.
@JNF590
@JNF590 Жыл бұрын
I know I'm 2years late but where can I find the memoirs, I would love a read
@ancientfungi7818
@ancientfungi7818 4 жыл бұрын
This was incredible. I have studied Artillery Doctrines of both World Wars extensively and I'm happy that somebody posted a video on soviet artillery. I'll be watching this a couple of times to learn the things that I didn't know yet.
@axelpatrickb.pingol3228
@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 4 жыл бұрын
Any good sources to understanding artillery tactics?
@ancientfungi7818
@ancientfungi7818 4 жыл бұрын
@@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 Field Artillery and Firepower by J.B.A Bailey is a true treasure, a true bible for all artillerymen, it shares concepts, ideas, tactics, systems and development history of these on an unprecendented scale. As most artillery tactics originate in WWI you can start there with something like: World War I Battlefield Artillery Tactics by Dale Clark is great for beginners Or Gunfire! British Artillery in World War II by Stig H. Moberg is extremely detailed on Artillery (including tactics) by making an example on the Royal Artillery.
@axelpatrickb.pingol3228
@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 4 жыл бұрын
@@ancientfungi7818 Thank you for the references...
@zahfa7608
@zahfa7608 4 жыл бұрын
The best part about Soviet artillery is the direct fire method. Yes, other armies during the war used this method, but for Soviet its becoming a common practice. The cooperation with foot soldiers and artillery is very important to make direct fire successful. Can't wait for your explaination on this in your future videos. Their favourite gun? The ZIS-3 76.2 mm. It is best use with indirect and direct fire. It's highly favourable amongs infantrymen. Certain individuals always use the phrase "Quantity over Quality" when describing Soviet equipment. But unfortunately the phrase doesn't apply to ZIS-3. the ZIS-3 are reliable and easy to produce. Wherever Soviet infantrymen went, they always "drag" this gun with them.
@VT-mw2zb
@VT-mw2zb 4 жыл бұрын
Direct fire over open sights is more effective but it also makes eneny counter-battery fire easier, so you may do more damage in a unit of time but your artillery got destroyed more easily. It's "easier" for the gun crews and fire direction since you basically shoot at what you see; like you are a tank crew. And like tanks, you are also in great danger of return fire but with no armour See, closely coordinated indirect artillery fire is not an easy thing to do. You need well-trained and experienced observers, officers, as well as a well-thought-out to pass the fire request up the chain to a Fire Direction Center then down to the artillery batteries and guns. It's not an easy thinng to do and requires tremendous practice, as well as equipments (radios and so on) and experience. The Red Army had an experience and officer shortage because so many were lost in the Great Purge and 1941-1942. They had to in a great hurry, train up LTs and promote them up to Maj.s and Col.s. Someone commanding a Tank corp in 1942 may end up with a Front command in 1944-45.
@petloh1882
@petloh1882 4 жыл бұрын
The Americans had better indirect fire artillery systems, all you need to be shown this is Elsenborne Ridge, when outnumbered American forces used direct fire support to split German forces in half, then use a various system of anti tank guns, bazookas, rifle fire, and they even used the Quad .50 cal weapons system, the “Kraut Mower”
@petloh1882
@petloh1882 4 жыл бұрын
Dwarov 1 I could list more but I used Elsenborne ridge as a specific battle. Battle of the Bulge, Operation Grenade, Normandy landings, Hurtgen Forest, etc.
@VT-mw2zb
@VT-mw2zb 4 жыл бұрын
@@petloh1882 well, US artillery fire direction, control, and integration basically has no match in WWII. Its procedure allowed one observer to control and direct fire of hundreds of guns. The best observers were airborne in light observation aircraft; probably half of fire missions were called by them. These observers and counter-battery fires silenced enemy guns when weather permits.
@petloh1882
@petloh1882 4 жыл бұрын
V T yeah I agree with you. I think the Soviets come close, I would use them if I was breaking through small areas, but I would rather use American style forward observers and communications on everything else.
@wahlex841
@wahlex841 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, the saying goes something like "infantry is the tsar(itsa) of battle and artillery is a god of war".
@ФедяКрюков-в6ь
@ФедяКрюков-в6ь 4 жыл бұрын
*tsar(itsa) of battlefield
@REgamesplayer
@REgamesplayer 4 жыл бұрын
It is interesting to see organization of artillery. However, as someone not from a military, I do struggle quickly figuring out how many men are in what kind of formation. Consider adding numerical values to icons and types of artillery, names of guns, amounts of shells, etc. Those little details would greatly improve visual quality of your videos.
@VT-mw2zb
@VT-mw2zb 3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry. Numerical strength in artillery units are quite pointless as are for most units. What matters is how many weapons that unit has that are not rifles. For example, a squad may have 6, 9 or 13 men, but really what matters are how many machine guns, grenade launchers, and anti-tank rockets the squad actually has. The reason is actually pretty simple: units are never at 100% strength. You'll be lucky to have 80%. When the strength is less than 100%, you focus on keeping the big guns manned. A squad with half its authorised strength can still keep all of the heavy weapons manned. Similar thing with artillery, actually. You basically need around 4-6 guys to operate a howitzer, sometimes even fewer. Most of the rest are spares and ammunition bunnies and runners. The next tricky thing is to figure out the infantry, artilley, and cavalry equivalent unit sizes. For example, an infantry company is about the same hierarchy as an artillery battery while a cavalry/tank/air squardon is about the size of a battalion.
@derpycyclistjr.1943
@derpycyclistjr.1943 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, just a small correction - artillery was called 'God of war'. Tsar title was given to infantry (though since 'infantry' (pehota) is feminine in Russian it was called 'infantry - tsarina of fields' (pehota - tsaritsa poley).
@r0mi44
@r0mi44 11 ай бұрын
Так точно !
@brandoncornwell52
@brandoncornwell52 Жыл бұрын
I just landed on your channel and I am immediately impressed. I really love randomly discovering intelligent, cogent and compelling commentary on history (military history in this case). There’s a lot of content out there, but only a fraction goes beyond the superficial. Thank you for the work that you are doing.
@vicentlazar8816
@vicentlazar8816 4 жыл бұрын
How many guns do you want, comrade? Da!
@comNartheus
@comNartheus 4 жыл бұрын
It was a phrase in a very popular war-time novel by Sergey Simonov. "Having 200 barrels per kilometre of frontline you do not report enemy forces. You report victory."
@SrdjaZlopogledja
@SrdjaZlopogledja 4 жыл бұрын
*Да!* *
@cabbagecabbage5047
@cabbagecabbage5047 4 жыл бұрын
I am absolutely amazed at how fast this channel grew, both in quality and quantity.
@up_dogF1
@up_dogF1 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! Just in time for lunch.
@nasalimbu3078
@nasalimbu3078 3 жыл бұрын
MBT anti tank missile can chage it nozzal abs
@thijshagenbeek8853
@thijshagenbeek8853 2 жыл бұрын
I spoke to a Soviet Artillerist quite some years ago at a convention at our local library. A few snippets from this old man. They where called "Hammerhands" due to their immense strength from lugging the large shells and their unquestioned abillity to, like God, reshape the land at will. He looked quite fervently as hé explained to me that no Mountain was to high for the Red Army as they would move the Mountain if needed. They where also intensly jelous with the Artillerists of the 203mm howitsers, the infamous BL-10 Guns of the Stavka high command becouse they got far more rest and due to the BL-10's immense range and elite nature of its personnel. Katushya's where liked but where not considered valuable but not as beloved as the heavy units. There was a good love between infantry and artillery due to their close distance to the front as they shared sometimes in the infantry's hardships and ofthen would be used as ad hoc rear guard infantry detachements. And they would ofthen trade prized American tabacco for the also highly prized intact German watches usually looted by the Infantrists. Hé also noted that after the war you'd be able to tell a Artillerists in anny village. Hé would be the strongest man, and hé would more likely then not. Deaf.
@Brslld
@Brslld Жыл бұрын
Your loss of hearing is not service related
@benjamindover2601
@benjamindover2601 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine being hammered by 48 Katusha rocket trucks, terrifying.
@holgernarrog962
@holgernarrog962 4 жыл бұрын
The precision was very low....The range did vary by more than 1000m depending on the weather....Thus it was only suitable for large targets. That means with a bit luck the 48 x 32 rockets might explode comfortable away from you.
@MrPhantomEd
@MrPhantomEd 4 жыл бұрын
@@holgernarrog962 Imagine sitting there thinking, if it is your lucky day or not...
@holgernarrog962
@holgernarrog962 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrPhantomEd as a soldier you are sitting where you are ordered to sit...hope to survive...getting food...and perhaps you will prefer to be under a low precision Katjuscha bombardment rather than a more precise attack.
@thegunner7942
@thegunner7942 4 жыл бұрын
@@holgernarrog962 nah! They did just fine, every men at the front, russians, germans etc knew that, and saying theyre purpose was to overwelm and rain hell to the enemy defensive positions same as the normal artillery and shatter the enemy to pieces then push the tanks and infantry in, and no rocketry technology at the time has the most effective shooting at all thats why they were deployed in group to increase the possibility of hitting even the smallest target, you scatter you're rockets within the area where the target is
@holgernarrog962
@holgernarrog962 4 жыл бұрын
@@thegunner7942 the fire of Katjusha or Nebelwerfer was indeed impressive but as mentioned inacurate (1000m variation in length) and thus not always useful. I saw an artillery barrage in 1988 in Bergen Hohne 155mm M109 howitzer , LARS from an observation post. It was impressive. loud. I might have felt frightened being less than perhaps 300 -400m away. The Soviet and German combat lines were usually 100 - 500m apart it was not applicable against a main combat line in many cases without a high risk of friendly fire. It used a lot of ammunition powder, steel and explosives. As a consequence the Soviet Union, Germany had some rocket artillery while the mass of the artillery was conventional artillery. The technical reason was that the powders used caused cracks while filling and later due to temperature changes, transport. Cracks caused an unequal burning of the powder and thus a wide range variation. After ww2 powders with some bitumen or polybutylen were developed that provided much better performance.
@robinkristiansen6578
@robinkristiansen6578 4 жыл бұрын
the quality of your content is absolutely astonishing!
@BattleOrder
@BattleOrder 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks we appreciate it!
@DWatchRazgriz
@DWatchRazgriz 4 жыл бұрын
An interesting look into the King of the Battlefield's usage by the USSR. Thank you very much.
@BattleOrder
@BattleOrder 4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@ПалПалыч-щ1о
@ПалПалыч-щ1о 4 жыл бұрын
Artillery is called the GOD of the battlefield in Russia.
@BattleOrder
@BattleOrder 4 жыл бұрын
@@ПалПалыч-щ1о I am aware of that. "Tsar of Battle" is a play on the American expression "King of Battle". It's just a fun title for the American audience, nothing serious lol
@DWatchRazgriz
@DWatchRazgriz 4 жыл бұрын
@@ПалПалыч-щ1о Thank you for the correction on Russian terminology. Have a great day :)
@ПалПалыч-щ1о
@ПалПалыч-щ1о 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't want to look like I was serious. I'm just bad in english. Sry)))
@CashSache
@CashSache 4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, I can't wait for part 2
@broomhandle3700
@broomhandle3700 4 жыл бұрын
I'm in the middle of assembling a force for the tabletop game Bolt Action. Looks like I've got a good excuse to get some artillery on the table now.
@BattleOrder
@BattleOrder 4 жыл бұрын
Nice, my fiancee has been talking about that game recently lol
@hothoploink1509
@hothoploink1509 4 жыл бұрын
@@BattleOrder Wait, have you actually found one of those hypothetical females interested in ww2 tabletop games? I mean they should obviously exist from a statistical point of view, but to actually find one... Or you're gay ^^ - either way, congratulations on your engagement (a bit late probably, but I only became aware of this channel and subscriber a few days ago). Edit: Or you're a female with an unusual voice. So many possibilities ;)
@ФедяКрюков-в6ь
@ФедяКрюков-в6ь 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Seems like you didn't fully understand of why mortars played so dominant role (especially at the beginning of the war), why soviets prefer to conserve ammo even putting themselves at the harm's way and why germans send more shells then they took back. Soviets lost at least three major artillery ammunition arsenals early in the war (one in Lugansk, modern Ukraine, or, to be precise, self-proclaimed People's republic of Luganks), one in Leningrad (modern day St. Petertsburg, it was besiege and starved for raw materials) amd the third one which I've forget right now) That loss made soviet high-caliber shell production quite limited. By 'high caliber' I mean 122+ mm howitzer rounds, 76,2 mm gun rounds of all types and all the mortar rounds were good to go as they are easier to produce due to technological reasons. That was partially the reason to employ large-caliber mortars btw.
@MilesStratton
@MilesStratton 4 жыл бұрын
This was fascinating to listen to and REALLY well edited. Good job, you've earned my sub
@Tergara1
@Tergara1 4 жыл бұрын
I'm really happy to see this. I've always loved artillery and this video is great for talking about the basis of doctrine. Can't wait till next one!
@ВикторКутузов-й6э
@ВикторКутузов-й6э 4 жыл бұрын
High quality making of interesting subject - great video! Благодарю Also, just an idea for future videos: combat usage of Soviet plate infantry - assault engineer brigades, appeared in mid'43 to the end of war, to make the difficult job of break through most fortified Nazi positions.
@antonmescheryakov9567
@antonmescheryakov9567 4 жыл бұрын
I have some doubts about the translation of Samsonov's passage at 8:25 : "хотя бы" should *not* be translated as "at least". I believe it translates to "even though". This meaning is a bit old and bookish so it is understandable the translator slipped somehow. The phrase makes a lot more sense this way.
@kino_enjoyer
@kino_enjoyer 4 жыл бұрын
Actually it's still often used
@alexeybelinsky8767
@alexeybelinsky8767 4 жыл бұрын
In this context end of phrase (about timeliness of artillery fire) should be translated as: "even if by limited number of batteries or (single) guns."
@13oz.M0u53
@13oz.M0u53 Жыл бұрын
Gods of war - that’s what we call artillery in Russia. My grandfather fought against the Nazis in anti-tank artillery.
@j.a.emmanueltemplemann5627
@j.a.emmanueltemplemann5627 3 жыл бұрын
You really know your stuff. Im Humbled. Very very impressive ✅
@mensch1066
@mensch1066 4 жыл бұрын
A great video. Really well done! I'm loving your recent Soviet content!
@lalamimix
@lalamimix 4 жыл бұрын
Glee. After seeing the same topics repeated. This is most enjoyable.
@McClane4Ever.
@McClane4Ever. 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is incredible! Thanks for producing these.
@tungsten_core
@tungsten_core 4 жыл бұрын
11:30 BASED RO OSTFRONT MUSIC MY FAV GAME SOUNDTRACK
@drinkyourwater1039
@drinkyourwater1039 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine you're a german tankman, during an operation breakthrough, you get pretty deep, but suddenly you see by far an 203 mm slowly turning towards you and your spearhead comrades
@kiennguyenanh8498
@kiennguyenanh8498 2 жыл бұрын
The first thing they did would be try to destroyed it
@justing.3541
@justing.3541 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for citing your sources!
@RasEli03
@RasEli03 Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for siting your sources!!😊
@legatvsdecimvs3406
@legatvsdecimvs3406 3 жыл бұрын
Soviet Artillery of WW2 was hampered by a lack of mobility after its factories of prime movers were captured, destroyed, displaced(evacuated) in 1941(Kharkov area and Leningrad) and 1942(Stalingrad). Production equipment and factories that were not captured or were evacuated were used to make armored vehicles(tanks - T-34/KV-1/IS-2 or self-propelled guns - SU-76/ISU-122/ISU-152) for the rest of the war. For much of the war after the end of 1941 remaining prime movers became a strategic reserve not deployed to frontline units, to prevent their loss or destruction. Slow moving farm and industrial tractors were repurposed for most new towed large caliber guns being deployed. As a result most of the Artillery in 122mm caliber and greater was only deployed in set piece offensives and counter-offensives for short term concentrated bombardments because the weight of the artillery pieces did not allow for towing by regular trucks or horses. It was withdrawn away from the frontline soon after the bombardment was over. Horses became the main source of mobility of Soviet Artillery during much of WW2. And they were also relatively slow moving in most conditions. Guns like 76mm ZiS-3 and 57mm ZiS-2 Field Guns, 45mm Infantry Guns, 120mm and 82mm Mortars were all towed into battle by horses. This was the primary Artillery available to most Soviet frontline units - they were not long range weapons like those of larger calibers.
@eragongun3491
@eragongun3491 4 жыл бұрын
Very good video. Waiting for part 2 like its Christmas
@cattledog901
@cattledog901 3 жыл бұрын
Was part 2 deleted? Can't find the video anymore.
@robbypolter6689
@robbypolter6689 4 жыл бұрын
Russian Word: Artillerie, the God of War. In important Operation, 1000 Meter Frontline, 300 guns.
@1TruNub
@1TruNub 4 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed really love your content. That I have seen so far is that the Medal of honor soundtrack I hear in the background. You are a man of culture
@localbod
@localbod 4 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for posting this. Yet another thorough and informative presentation.
@dataman6744
@dataman6744 2 жыл бұрын
"Artillery is the god of war" - Joseph Stalin
@footballbasketball182hi5
@footballbasketball182hi5 2 жыл бұрын
He’s right
@masonke1
@masonke1 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, well researched. Was part 2 ever released?
@CallsignYukiMizuki
@CallsignYukiMizuki 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking forward to Part 2 but I just realize I have to wait for it since this vid just dropped Tragedy tbh
@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic5895
@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic5895 4 жыл бұрын
I DO fell your pain, comrade.
@aps125
@aps125 4 жыл бұрын
US Army never organized artillery division although there was an internal debate for considering one toward the end of the Cold War. The largest US artillery formation ever created was the 56th Field Artillery Command stationed in West Germany. In fact it was an enlarged artillery brigade under the command of a brigadier general instead of a colonel. More precisely it was an echelon above brigade/theater level command. All forward based Pershing missiles were under its control.
@BattleOrder
@BattleOrder 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, although during World War II Army-level field artillery brigade headquarters could get to division size. But they were just a headquarters and flexible, so field artillery groups would be swapped in and out as needed. For example Army Artillery with its brigade HQ (separate from corps and division artillery) could have 3 Field Artillery Groups each with 3-4 Field Artillery Battalions, which basically creates a division-sized Army Artillery component
@JamesPolymer
@JamesPolymer 2 жыл бұрын
I know this has been echoed by others, but what happened to Part 2 of this video? Was it deleted or marked "unlisted," or was it just never finished?
@eugeneoliveros5814
@eugeneoliveros5814 4 жыл бұрын
I like that picture of Stalin’s Sledgehammer for the thumbnail
@ancientfungi7818
@ancientfungi7818 4 жыл бұрын
It's actually not the 203mm howitzer M1931 (B-4), the thumbnail shows the 152mm gun M1935 (Br-2), which is the retarded twin sister of the B-4.
@2boredfortv
@2boredfortv Жыл бұрын
Ok the red orchestra music caught me off guard, too perfect for the video!
@EthanDyTioco
@EthanDyTioco 4 жыл бұрын
Found you in my recommended - I'm liking the content. Huzzah!
@apersondoingthings5689
@apersondoingthings5689 11 ай бұрын
I think the reason why the U.S. fired so many shells was because the USA when it found like just a squad of infantry and if able to call artillery support did so, a lot.
@234jari234
@234jari234 3 жыл бұрын
10:09 Red Orchestra Ostfront 41-45 theme, nice! The first World War 2 game that got me interested in wartime history like this video.
@vectorvitale
@vectorvitale 4 жыл бұрын
I can't get enough of these damn videos.
@diestormlie
@diestormlie 4 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent channel. Have a like, a comment and a sub! Looking forward to more!
@BattleOrder
@BattleOrder 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate 👍
@glenmartin2437
@glenmartin2437 4 жыл бұрын
It is nice to see more and more information from the Soviets. Growing up, most of the books and articles I read were by Americans or Brits. Thank you for this info from the Soviets. One of my nicknames is "Rusky." Again, thank you.
@eshdizzle
@eshdizzle 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! The Soviet of doctrine of WW2 matches up well with the current doctrine of Russia. In the Russian (and Soviet) army, artillery is known as the "God of War." Mass is a cornerstone of their fires mentality. Quick question. Towards the beginning of the video you state SIGINT was used in the targeting of enemy assests. What source was used for this claim, and what assets were used to collect this intelligence? I have long known about observers, aircraft, and sound direction but have never seen anything on SIGINT. Again, great job!
@BattleOrder
@BattleOrder 4 жыл бұрын
Hans-Georg Richert (a German artillery officer) references that in 1944 the Soviets they were facing had radio direction finding equipment. They knew this because shortly after radio transmissions, there would be sudden concentrations of fire on the source. This could also entail listening in on German radio transmissions to deduce the locations of targets.
@eshdizzle
@eshdizzle 4 жыл бұрын
@@BattleOrder Cool! Thank you very much!
@Giloup92
@Giloup92 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. There are so many videos about tanks in WW2 ans so few about artillery.
@randomlyentertaining8287
@randomlyentertaining8287 3 жыл бұрын
So the Soviets tried throwing men at the enemy in the beginning and realized, while it worked, they took far too many casualties. Then they decided "Why waste an expensive soldier when we can just throw hordes of cheap shells at the enemy?" Yes, I know stories of mass charges by the Soviets are overexaggerated and commanders didn't completely disregard the lives of their men. I'm just making a joke. 4:23-4:30 Is that Medal of Honor: European Assault music I hear in the background? 5:50-5:57 That IS Medal of Honor: European Assault music I hear. Ahh, the memories.
@battleborg6662
@battleborg6662 Жыл бұрын
The inclusion of Medal of Honor Allied Assault's main theme makes this even more interesting.
@burnellzimmerman7484
@burnellzimmerman7484 Жыл бұрын
As well as the European Assault main theme!
@jamesmortimer4016
@jamesmortimer4016 Жыл бұрын
US flexible artillery: I am calling in artillery support via radio. It should land in the general area of the problem in a minute tops. Soviet flexible artillery: Igor, that MG nest is bullying the infantry. Hit it.
@thefatballistician
@thefatballistician 4 жыл бұрын
This video is amazing but i do have request. WW1 Ranks of all major sides that partook such as British, American, German, Austrian, and etc ( I may or may not be making a ww1 gmod rp)
@rugger1009
@rugger1009 2 жыл бұрын
Guy Sajers descriptions of being under Soviet artillery fire in The Forgotten Soldier are an excellent demonstration of its effectiveness on the Landser of the Wehrmacht.
@jameslafrite
@jameslafrite 8 ай бұрын
Still waiting for part 2
@Simon-jj2pu
@Simon-jj2pu 2 ай бұрын
It did occur to me years ago, why don’t all guns become howitzers and as such have a dual role. A artillery officer explained that howitzers are more expensive and complicated to build due to minimising the recoil due to the higher angle in high indirect (so the recoil doesn’t hit the ground). Made sense to me
@grantlee5737
@grantlee5737 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I would like a nitty gritty video
@yoyomodiji
@yoyomodiji 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis , one of the finest channels regarding war knowledge, love from India...
@yoyomodiji
@yoyomodiji 3 жыл бұрын
@Dire DreadLord indian?
@tehw000000t
@tehw000000t 2 ай бұрын
My favourite video of yours
@JamesHarrison008
@JamesHarrison008 4 жыл бұрын
Extremely well made video!
@The_Observant_Eye
@The_Observant_Eye Жыл бұрын
Where's the part 2? 🤔🤔
@300guy
@300guy Жыл бұрын
has part 2 ever been made?
@TheStugbit
@TheStugbit 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! There's not that many videos covering artillery on KZbin, specially on the Soviet side which made use of artillery ostensibly. The Soviet had this doctrine of using artillery in the direct fire even before the war, isn’t it? Because many of their guns like the 76mm F22 seems to be able to fire at both infantry, soft targets and tanks. Hence the Germans using captured ones in the AT role, the "Matilda Killer". I didn't know the Soviet actually made use of those guns like this as well. By the way, would it be possible for you to make a video covering how the artillery observation units work? People often doesn't explain that in details. It seems to me to be a very interesting subject how it works. Best regards.
@clusterstudio18
@clusterstudio18 3 жыл бұрын
Where to find part 2?
@gwin2719
@gwin2719 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Keep it up
@glubokayaoperatsiya
@glubokayaoperatsiya Жыл бұрын
was the second video done??
@Ddnmddnn
@Ddnmddnn 4 жыл бұрын
You deserve 1M Subs
@DENISKALIMULIN
@DENISKALIMULIN 10 ай бұрын
the most important thing why mortars were very important in the Red Army is that in ten years of industrialization of the country it is impossible to catch up with everything and the production of nitroglycerin gunpowder lagged behind and besides, these factories were captured by the Germans in 1941, and direct fire is also a consequence of the German tactics of fortresses, well and most importantly, the USSR responded asymmetrically to the power of German artillery with the help of tanks
@unowackelin.5152
@unowackelin.5152 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to get inn to the nitygritty. Love this channel
@brandoncornwell52
@brandoncornwell52 Жыл бұрын
Without reference to Nazi doctrine, one cannot help but be impressed with the Wehrmacht. Even after the unbelievable encirclements of the first few months of Barbarossa, the Soviets In full war economy, full enlistment and a no retreat doctrine were a gigantic monster of an enemy. If anyone were unsure, they need only look at the battle of Kursk to understand what the Germans were up against, and though they had perhaps a 1% of winning, they were prodigious in their efforts, and pound for pound the German soldier was the best fighter of the century. But the soviets had a sledgehammer and the Germans had a tack hammer. No matter how skilled that hammer swinger was, the soviets were going to demolish far more far faster. The Great Patriotic War is a more accurate title to WW2. The British/American Theatre was honestly a footnote, a helpful though arguably not necessary distraction in the Great War between Germany and the Soviet Union.
@StarJackal
@StarJackal 3 жыл бұрын
Was there ever a part 2?
@commando4481
@commando4481 4 жыл бұрын
Good video mate
@BattleOrder
@BattleOrder 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@cassiecraft3938
@cassiecraft3938 2 жыл бұрын
MORE IN DEPTH, PLEASE!!! 🙂
@Setofan1
@Setofan1 3 жыл бұрын
When are we getting part 2?
@DrLoverLover
@DrLoverLover 4 жыл бұрын
Great video
@optionsss
@optionsss 4 жыл бұрын
nice video, definitely would like to know more about the operational detail and organization
@Jon.A.Scholt
@Jon.A.Scholt 4 жыл бұрын
Man, I would kill for a breakdown of units from the Napoleonic Wars; how Napoleon implemented the corps system and how the coalitions against him changed over the 20-odd years eventually copying the corps system themselves.
@sahhaf1234
@sahhaf1234 5 ай бұрын
yes, I want to know the nitty-gritty.. Especially on how they have used the terrain...
@Jamespwickstromw
@Jamespwickstromw 2 ай бұрын
Soviet precision fire, because of lack of radio's and skilled personel was very lacking so thats why in the war they used mass bombardments with alot of tubes to compensate, this was very deadly against trench lines but as you can see in seelow heights battle where the germans abandonded the first defense line to dodge the initial bombardment the Artillery was basicly useless afterwards and forced the Soviets to commit their tanks corps early which suffered heavy casualties as a result.
@Jarod-te2bi
@Jarod-te2bi 3 жыл бұрын
Russian really is the best when it comes to artillery
@Loup-mx7yt
@Loup-mx7yt 4 жыл бұрын
You should do ground attack plane/close air support doctrine of the red army.
@Wicked-hx7yg
@Wicked-hx7yg 4 жыл бұрын
👍🏼 great video
@BattleOrder
@BattleOrder 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain 4 жыл бұрын
Don't spare the shells or the bombs or the mines because artillery prep saves your troop's lives! TAKE THAT ENEMY AT THE GATERS!
@taylorliu9093
@taylorliu9093 4 жыл бұрын
That movie is a piece of western propaganda.
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain Жыл бұрын
Ironically made by an rabid anti-Semite.
@gareththompson2708
@gareththompson2708 10 ай бұрын
I can't find the part two of this video. Was it taken down?
@danpetrescu4915
@danpetrescu4915 6 ай бұрын
Must be very very god manager . More dificult to destroy then to build
@yoyomodiji
@yoyomodiji 3 жыл бұрын
1:14 please make a video regarding artillery tactics as you have promised, please😺😺😺😺😺😺🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
@0giwan
@0giwan Жыл бұрын
Did the critique video ever come out?
@zaen_vg
@zaen_vg 4 жыл бұрын
HOI4 artillery template was spot on after all
@patrickmcshane7658
@patrickmcshane7658 4 жыл бұрын
More artillery please.
@johngalt5912
@johngalt5912 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Are you going to cover the Soviet anti-tank artillery formations, such as IPTABs, i.e. [separate] destroyer-antitank artillery brigades? Also, when counting the Soviet tanks corps, I think you only counted separate tanks corps and missed the tank corps organic to tank armies (I could be mistaken though).
@ScarecrowZP
@ScarecrowZP 4 жыл бұрын
14:25 aren't those doctrine pics from HoI4?
@Zain-fi
@Zain-fi 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you will go into Cold War doctrine I’d been extremely interested in that
Britain's Armoured Artillery (WW2)
14:22
Battle Order
Рет қаралды 72 М.
Soviet Stormtroopers: WW2 Submachine Gun Tactics
15:26
Battle Order
Рет қаралды 233 М.
If people acted like cats 🙀😹 LeoNata family #shorts
00:22
LeoNata Family
Рет қаралды 29 МЛН
Lazy days…
00:24
Anwar Jibawi
Рет қаралды 7 МЛН
3 Hours Of WW2 Facts To Fall Asleep To
3:25:40
Timeline - World History Documentaries
Рет қаралды 2,3 МЛН
Guide to Russia's Armored Artillery
15:40
Battle Order
Рет қаралды 439 М.
Artillery Combat in World War 1
19:52
Military History Visualized
Рет қаралды 752 М.
How the Soviets Built the World’s First Airborne (VDV)
16:23
Battle Order
Рет қаралды 164 М.
How U.S. Army Tank Units Fought in WW2
16:51
Battle Order
Рет қаралды 172 М.
SU-76M: Soviet Artillery Spam
18:47
Military History Visualized
Рет қаралды 266 М.
Weapons of West German Panzergrenadiers in the '60s
14:44
Battle Order
Рет қаралды 234 М.
World War 2 Anti-Aircraft Guns - Enforcing the No-Fly Zone
1:00:22
Drachinifel
Рет қаралды 751 М.
A Battle Lost to History - Finschhafen 1943
3:08:37
hypohystericalhistory
Рет қаралды 686 М.
How to Fight: Soviet Air Mobile Operations || Vintage US Army Video
16:06
History Collectors Forum
Рет қаралды 47 М.