TSI Timing Chain Tensioner (BEWARE)

[@Mike-kx3xt]

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[@gabemarshall7777]

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[@lucbegin7334]

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[@Deutscheautoparts]

+Luc Begin thank you so much for considering us for your purchases as well as the kind words. I really appreciate it

[@mohammadkamran5862]

Thank you. I just wish Germans were also terrified of selling cars with ticking time bombs as engines. Truly makes me sad that they don’t feel bad putting plastic parts in engines that will blow up an engine.

[@michaeljohnson-li5nn]

Quality remains long after the price is forgotten.

[@Deutscheautoparts]

+michael johnson well said.

[@Blaylock1988]

I just bought a new MAF for my Mk4 R32, saw some no-name brand for $80.....yeah I'll stick with Bosch on this one. Not worth that savings. I applaud you for staying away from questionable parts and suppliers!

[@carbonio28]

Bought one for my 2005 gti few years ago for 25 bucks on eBay still rocking hard,go figure 😉

[@jonrandall5490]

The questionable suppliers are the original parts fruit cakes... They are the ones who started this tragedy !! Impossible to trust Audi or VW to do the right thing...

[@dagas94]

Is this a problem with the 1,4 tsi engine?

[@clonSanG]

Been a vw guy for years and I cud point out lots of Chinese parts lasting a lot longer than audi so call genuine up to 90.000 like opel timing chain kits lasting half the time of cheaper ones

[@tltgarageusa7474]

I totally understand getting quality part but a timing chain kit that is pushing $900 seem a little bit crazy to me. I can get a whole car for that. It just seem like everything these is so over price that people have no choice so they pay it.. I just wish a was a mid range. Either super cheap or super expensive is the only two option...

[@Tcflohr]

Thanks for the PSA. I help keep my dad 2015 tiguan on the road (130k miles without issues other than oil separator failed at 115k) so I appreciate the heads up.

[@Deutscheautoparts]

15 tiguan should have an updated tensioner

[@tumdeax]

How did the oil separator fail? I've never seen that happen before.

[@The3lloba]

Is there a way to find whether my used VW had its chain tensioner updated?

[@ranvirgrewal8452]

Hi great video . I have a 2016 1.8 Lit passat. With only 25k miles. Should I be concerned about the tensioner...also does the k version come in factory fitted in a 2016 , 1.8 passat.? A response would be highly appreciated. respose...

[@User-oj5ds]

I know this is an old video but this is a prevalent thing for me with my new (to me) 2013 GLI. I recently found out that I have an extended warranty for the timing chain that’s good for another 50k! Which is great!!! BUT, I do want to get an APR Stage 1 tune for it, will that void my timing chain warranty?? Thank you!!!

[@donny4599]

Thanks for the Video. Question, do have to remove the spark plugs to rotate the engine when changing the timing chain, or is this just to make it easier with no compression? Also, would I need to have the car in Neutral to rotate?

[@faliray4889]

Did VW ever fix the timing chain tensioner issue on the TSI engine. If so, what model year was the fix installed on?

[@michaelt.4806]

Also be ware of the little O-ring on the end of the oil-filter holder, it's there to drain the oil to the pan when changing the filter. If the O-ring is not seated correctly, damaged or missing, the engine wil start with a few seconds of chain slap on startup...also not good for the tensioner, it gets hammered on startup and could come apart. And always buy Quality parts from a trusted seller like Deutsche Auto Parts.

[@wakhewinterwisemhlanga2389]

Good clip man........ Face it guys...... in short there is no original part on aftermarket items .......... its all about money making

[@joes.7536]

Let's talk about the brand URO. Anyone have any experience? I've avoided it, but I keep seeing more and more of their parts so I'm Curious.

[@DrewFixIt]

Does the 2011 1.8TFSI have this timing chain tensioner problem?

[@Panacea8]

Hey man big fan of the channel. I have a quick question, I have a 2013 CC 2l TSI I got my oil changed yesterday, drove home and now my car won't start, plugged in OBD2 and fault code p3054, cleared it and wouldn't start. Tried to turn crankshaft with socket and no movement so I presume the timing jumped. Would the oil change have anything to do with that?

[@t16incho]

Great video as always. I have a 2013 Tiguan with 2nd gen AE888. Can i install this last version of the tensioner? should i change the chain to? Sad to say that in my country the replacement kit price is 1100 US Dolars, more sad is that i paid 25k for my used tiguan, so i just want to be sure to get the lastest version that is compatibly with my engine. it has 45000 miles on it. Regards from Argentina.

[@stinkybeagle]

Nice explanation. Genuine. Thank you.

[@josephgiunta1759]

Just pulled apart my ccta and the 06k updated tensioner has failed after 15000 miles. This will be the second time I am replacing valves.

[@sir_dinkle]

I have a 2011 Audi A4 Quattro 111k miles and it doesn’t send any fault codes and there’s not visible leaks of oil but I have to keep filling it up with oil. Seems like it consumes oil every 500 miles depending on if I drive it hard

[@campas812]

So I have a 2014 Jetta 1.8t and I'm having an issue I feel could be the TCT but I'm not sure and this car has been a big purchase and sunk almost all my money into and 2 weeks after buying it I turned a corner and got this weird grindy/clicking it only happens when I turn a corner faster than normal and give a little gas the noise can start and itll only last from 2-15 seconds and once it happened when I was at a stoplight but i was also driving it the "sports" gear so my buddy that's a mechanic believes it is most likely the timing chain or atleast the tensioner he said the load of turning it what's causing the noise or the chain tensioner not working properly but I'm at 125k miles so figured if I changed the TCT might as well do the timing chain too but idk if this is the problem were going to do more work and test tomorrow 3/21/20 but I'm terrified of what it could be

[@campas812]

Also I've checked my VIN number and it says there no recalls for my specific vehicle this is one of my last resorts to try amd get some suggestions or answers

[@404meowingtons]

Hey guys, quick question hopefully you can help on. I tuned my 2011 Mk6 Dsg GTI with the uni stage 1 +tune and dsg tune about 3 months ago. Now when driving, gears 1 3 and 5 clunk on downshift and while driving yesterday in 6th gear, car suddenly went into neutral and displayed a service wrench but then went back to normal. No codes or cel. Any idea what it could be?

[@786hunzavalley]

Hi My car is showing error p3008. Initially the error code p000A appeared. I changed camshaft sensor then code p3008 came up. Most of the people are saying that timing chain needs to replace. It was fine , I just changed water pump because it was leaking, and new drive belts, with engine oil service , dsg service & spark plugs. After all this work when I started my car a code p000A appeared, then changed camshaft sensor, camshaft adjuster valve, after 5 minutes a new code p3008 came up, car starts but idle rough. When press acceleration it vibrates very heavily. What do you think might be the problem?

[@silverhazs4]

I just picked up a 17 GLI with 22k miles cpo. Is this a concern I'm already feeling like I made the wrong decision. Had no idea about this.

[@waelal-zubieri5358]

For the comments, the timing chain tensioner failure only affects 2.0 TSI engines that were made before 2013. So if your car was made in the 2013, you are fine. I am not talking about model year, the manufacturer date. Also all GEN 3 engines of the 2.0 TSI engine are not affected by this problem. That includes the 1.8 TSI and the 2.0 TSI in the Jetta GLI after that was released in 2014.

[@vGnome]

Wael Al-Zubieri a 2.0 made in 2/13 is safe?

[@eppyz]

Wael Al-Zubieri so my MK6 GTI is a 2013 but has a production date of 06/12 so I most likely need the update? My car is still under warranty will VW cover a replacement or am I out the $$ to get this updated??

[@s2kay750]

Jeff Eppenger I think the tensioners were updated for manufacturing after Sept 2012, so it would pay to check the type of tensioner by viewing through the inspection hole. I don’t believe vw update the tensioners as a recall (though they should!).

[@Micp2912]

Ok just so people are clear this does NOT just effect before 2013 engines. I have a 2014 GLI that just bent the valves with only 80k on it. Many other guys on the forums with +13 cars having this problem too. Of coarse VW doesn't want to help.

[@williamargout2886]

Mine is a 2007 VW Passat 2.0T FSI. It is a BPY engine code, and it failed, causing interference, but since it was idling at the time of failure, the engine was repairable. Search KZbin for 2007 BPYguy for the details.

[@tecklenburgvw6450]

When do we need to replace the timing chain on the Gen. 3 that's in the Mk7 Golf R?

[@Deutscheautoparts]

+TecklenburgVW no there is no evidence of a problem for MK7 models as far as we know

[@tecklenburgvw6450]

Deutsche Auto Parts thank you for taking the time to respond.

[@patsfball3710]

The timing chain tensioner failed in my 2012 q5. It has 75k on motor. Warranty covers 2012 q5 but not my vin. My car has same faulty tensioner that a car with a covered vin has. Can anyone give me info what to do

[@EuropeanDreamz]

What happened since ?

[@jessefalsone1247]

Deutsche Auto Parts - I only have 58K on my 2010 (Stage 2). I've been hemming and hawing about doing this (chafes me no end that I need to spend this money on a part that should be bullet proof). Can you give some advice on whether there is any reason to also replace timing chains? I just can't imagine that I would need to do this with so few miles. My MKV rabbit has 215K with the original chain. Thanks.

[@dkg01010]

2013 Gen 1 GLI. Do i need to worry about this? i have 65k miles

[@SillySatire]

I believe there are some genuine VW tensions marked made in China ??

[@carlossantiago3511]

Could someone tell me which after market is good. I need cheaper parts less pricely thanks

[@olivereriksson4787]

Do you guys have a kit for the 1.4 tsi?

[@Dev_skoll]

I've never had issues with parts that where 50% off from dealer parts. Thousands of miles ran with many after market parts and everything is working great. I think people just don't like the competition. Now I do agree some parts are shit. Just gotta know what to look for. I always buy on ebay. What I've seen a lot on ebay is manufacturers like to sell directly. I mean who are your manufacturers you order from?

[@Deutscheautoparts]

We are going to talk about this on askdap 124

[@jonrandall5490]

I bet they are buying from the same goof balls who made the sorry original crap...

[@andrewsilverstone4894]

I️ have a late production model 2012 gli should I️ Be worried?

[@tlontheparkplaceprince4053]

2016 golf sw 1.8 tsi timing chain tensioner failed at 51K miles (last week - 2K miles after thermostat housing replacement ). Engine gone.

[@Keepin-it-wheel101]

I have 09 B6 passat 2.0 TSI with 79k miles. When would you recommend for this service? I am planning on 90k miles but might be too late. Thanks for this video.

[@Deutscheautoparts]

now.... its not worth the gamble to wait given the cost if it fails

[@Keepin-it-wheel101]

Deutsche Auto Parts Got it. I will call my local auto place to schedule service. I will check shopdap for complete kit. Thanks.

[@illsuive]

what about a 2010 B6 wagon 2.0 with 100k miles ?

[@mikea.2348]

The Chinese tensioners probably come in as unauthorized gray market, but they indeed have the latest revisions and they are indeed from China (SAIC). A major parts wholesaler that specializes in Euro parts imports them and the newest revisions are identical to the dealer parts you can buy in the US except for the China marking.

[@Deutscheautoparts]

+Mike A. It certainly is not the same as this one failed prematurely, which is not something we have ever seen on the newest revision.

[@jonrandall5490]

I'd be willing to bet the Germans had these tensioners made in China to begin with.... that's the whole problem. Then Audi and VW begged China to make them better. That's your revisions. I'd be willing to bet ain't none of them worth crap.

[@charleshines5700]

The worst thing is that sadly some people buy those parts and it undercuts you and you could have sold them a part that wouldn't destroy their engine. It can't be preached enough to stay away from those scam artists and realize you get what you pay for. I wouldn't feel good about using any part from that kit. With a cheap kit like that you may get guides that break easily and that will also ruin your day!

[@vGnome]

How do i know if my engineer is affected? I am not sure if i have a gen3 or not. 2013 gti mfg date 2/13.

[@Deutscheautoparts]

+DVS Gnome probably not on that model

[@vGnome]

Thanks Paul. Gonna have it checked just in case when I have my mechanic give the car a once over for any possible warranty claims.

[@cedricwilson4509]

Yours is generation 2 more than likely CCTA or CBFA

[@3rdgen4runner]

Should I be worried with a 2012 gti with 125k miles?

[@Deutscheautoparts]

+MK6 Gabe you should check

[@youngrios]

Deutsche Auto Parts how do you check I'm 2012 gti 50k miles

[@GENWITE]

Yes check... I think mine just failed yesterday... 2012 with 80k.

[@vincentlavezzi4646]

Did you have the corrected part

[@vincentlavezzi4646]

Are 2012’s 2.0 gti’s affected?

[@vincentlavezzi4646]

4/12

[@santi_vag_escaneos]

GREAT VIDEO!! I need to buy a quality kit like the one you publish in SHOP DAP. Can you send me to Argentina?

[@annwalsh1804]

Santiagoafull Hey Santiago, could you buy the kit?

[@TheErd1997]

Issue has been resolved on the MK7 correct?

[@Deutscheautoparts]

No this is not an issue with the MK7 as far as we know

[@freddyt.9627]

Does this apply to 2017 vdub GTI?

[@Deutscheautoparts]

No this is not an issue with the MK7 as far as we know

[@TriptoCo]

Applicable to the 3.0 tfsi?

[@TriptoCo]

Matthew Thank you

[@youngrios]

Can't a lawsuit be made here ? Why do vw owners have to pay out of pocket for preventative damage . This problem is like a bad detect ..a recall ..it doesn't make since . We can't even enjoy the damn car.

[@zachhudson3137]

I would like to this so. I'm not a lawyer nor do i know much of anything towards law, but what they pointed out in the ebay description was stating that it OE quaility part not OEM or genuine. I feel like it's trying to dodge the fact that it's not tested yet it's the same design / function than the OEM. I think the one thing that I think will get them is if it's the same part as listed in the beginning, that stats CHINA in the then they list made in GERMANY which they did at 5:11 bottom left corner. Which may be a cause for deeper investigation?

[@youngrios]

Zachary Hudson this whole thing is making me sick ..sad part is I'm in deep love with my mk6 gti . It has a stave 1 tune r8 coils upgraded sparks . Catback..and next month a down pipe . This is a deceitful cunning and money greed move they are doing and it's Evil . I refuse to pay for damages I never done . If it ever happens I'm most definitely calling my lawyer . And this guy in the video should be promoting that not making people buy this preventative crap .

[@Micp2912]

There is a lawsuit, according to the internet. started in 2016. Still going on.

[@icy3004]

They did.

[@deuceivey8303]

November 19. i got my class action letter in the mail in august

[@haziqjasman5743]

Mine broke yesterday... ..sruffed up my pistons. And other components now needs a new engine 2009 vw gti mk6... Get it checked!!!. Dont be like me ..

[@tltgarageusa7474]

Don't need new engine. Jump a tooth and bent your valves. As long as the valve didn't break and dance around the cylinder you should be able to rebuild the head and put it back together. The pistons are pretty tough.

[@heribertosandoval4192]

I got a 2016 jetta gli 96k miles timing chain tensioner gaved out 😤

[@johnpaulino2670]

They make bad parts for your vehicle year after year and then talk trash from someone making better trash. Trash is trash.

[@boostedcheshire8699]

Respect ✊

[@bigjak7358]

Chinese are cleverer than Germans, dont let price fool you.

[@4413ivan]

Thanks really helpfully

[@peterkiro2132]

That is genuine VW shanghai part from VW China not copy or fake

[@jonrandall5490]

VW China probably sucks even worse than VW Germany !!

[@erroneouscode]

Some of us that have been through this VW timing chain issue multiple times would rather buy Chinese made than give VW another cent for a problem of their making. They've had more than 10 years to solve these problems and they never quite do, with revisions 'STILL' failing. They also have moved from one generation of engine and capacity increase and still have timing chain and tensioner failures on newer engines. Phuck!! VW and their genuine shite.

[@brandonnierenhausen5556]

Is the updated tensioner in the 2013 GTI?

[@eponymous7910]

Yes

[@herbsgotaZX]

I just ordered 10 of them dirt cheap off wish so I'll just change them after every oil change

[@Silas_cv1]

Well yeah what do you expect people don’t wanna spend a lot of money parts😂😂 cause dealerships charge to damn much

[@Deutscheautoparts]

+Deadman 25 good thing everyone can save money by buying from us ; )

[@joewontwice]

My mechanic broke a chain in 1k miles cause he cheaped out lol

[@jonrandall5490]

Honestly, it is a bit crazy to knock the knock-offs when Audi / VW themselves didn't make a good part to begin with. The fault here is clearly the OE parts supplied in these dumb cars! Sure, Audi or DAP can claim the revisions are better, but shall we trust the dumbo's that created the crap ones to begin with? They are probably the same goof balls making the revisions as the junk ones that the Audi's came with to begin with!!! Who can trust these yo-yo's to make a better revision??? Shame on you, VW and Audi for producing or using sorry tensioners which fail, and many of them fail before even 70,000 miles, and then ruin the engines in these cars. People who buy Chevy's and Fords are starting to look smarter and smarter ! German engineering has gone right down the tubes ! Try buying a used engine for an Audi A4 ! They fail at such a high rate, and are in such a huge demand, that used engines cost more than these stupid cars are worth. My next car will be a Ford or a Chevy. Audi's, BMW and Mercedes Benz all suck !

[@amazoidal]

Lease German, buy Japanese.

[@ogr8t141]

Give us a diy please

[@tedpark5824]

Anyone access shopDAP.com now?

[@1slowtj]

Dammm Veeeee Dubbb

[@magnusjonsson1316]

Bought by VAG OE parts? DOn`t by a VAG product what so ever. The worst cheaters in the auto business

[@pfernandes8982]

Dont buy ebay parts

[@jonrandall5490]

why??? They can't possibly be any worse than the Audi / VW crap !!

[@teamawesome2171]

@@jonrandall5490 True...

[@damienleblanc8166]

China make a lot car Skoda Vw and Audi and also all part is make local in China

[@charleshines5700]

It is worse than Chinese, it is a dangerous Chinese knockoff! I pray that Volkswagen sued the people making that back to the stoneages!!! Also this is a good lesson to be really careful where you get the parts. Sure you will pay a lot more from a reputable source but at least then the parts won't cause a major problem unless there is no updated design.