Will Bowman hire impact Draisaitl and McDavid’s future in Edmonton?| OverDrive - Hour 3 - 07/24/2024

Bryan Hayes and Frank Corrado are joined by the host of the Ross Tucker Football podcast and former NFLer Ross Tucker to discuss ESPN’s Top NFL players since 2000, can Patrick Mahomes ever catch Tom Brady as the best quarterback, how will Tom Brady’s legacy look in the future and more. They are also joined by the host of Oil Stream on Edmonton Sports Talk Tom Gazzola to discuss the reaction around the Edmonton Oilers hiring former Blackhawks GM Stan Bowman after his history in Chicago, whether or not the hire of a big name general manager like Bowman will impact Leon Draisaitl and Connor McDavid from becoming lifelong Oilers and more.

[@timbro1]

Why are they glossing over the fact that the oilers hired a grown adult who covered up sexual assault

[@oceanthresher6184]

Surely the Jets GM wasn’t second in line to Bowman when the assault and cover up took place.

[@wilseph1]

@@oceanthresher6184 OOF. That's the definition of pointing 1 finger and having 3 pointed back to the OP.

[@alanpaul9481]

@@oceanthresher6184 And Bowman was second in line to John McDonough, the president who told them he was going to take care of the issue. All Bowman has done since then is work directly with Sheldon Kennedy, while Cheveldoyoff (also at the meeting) was rewarded with an immediate job by the Jets.

[@JarradBruessel32]

Lmfao bowman was a horrible gm. Dave tallon built those blackhawks teams and then bowman made terrible trade after terrible trade and terrible signing after terrible signing. He was incompetent as a gm. He destroyed the blackhawks team so quickly it was hysterical.

[@patberlinguette6808]

Sorry..poor choice..what is that saying to the fans???

[@barstar888]

@@patberlinguette6808it’s saying Jeff Jackson is successful within the sport because he doesn’t listen to those online who have no idea what they’re talking about…

[@ethanparker7900]

yes tallon built 2010 and the core but you know the other 2 cups in 2013 and 2015 was indeed bowmans work right?

[@BobsUruncle-dl7cs]

@@ethanparker7900 Nope those 2 Cups were Moma2s work(NewAge Hockey System)....look it up online./

[@BobsUruncle-dl7cs]

@@ethanparker7900 Moma2s work.

[@SC-lt4go]

Hard to say what influence GAY RAPE CULTURE will have on Leon and Connor.

[@alanpaul9481]

Not a chance they weren't included in the choice.

[@stinkfinger630]

Signing Bowman?! Bad optics, bad vibes, bad decision. Oilers are rotten at the top, starting with that oddball guy Katz ( sexual predator accusations); and now ‘I ignored sexual abuse by a member of my coaching staff’ Bowman? Bad.

[@wilseph1]

Are the Oilers fans going to boycott the Oilers?

[@alanpaul9481]

Do some research on what Bowman has been doing since. He is being advocated for by Sheldon Kennedy and Kyle Beach. Hard to be more offended by the hire than those 2 are. I don't like the hire because I don't know why the Oilers are inviting any controversy into the team, but after looking into it, I can live with it, as long as 97/29 were on board.

[@AlGrundauFlamesTroll]

Evander Kane was accused of assaulting women, Perry of cheating on his wife with bedard’s mom. Where was your tangent about that?

[@stinkfinger630]

@@AlGrundauFlamesTroll fair enough but the Bedard story is bs.

[@AlGrundauFlamesTroll]

@@wilseph1 They want to boycott us they can I don’t give a flying fck. They can enjoy cheering for a failed degenerate franchise that hasn’t come close to doing anything significant like Cowtown, the Trana Maple Laffs/Queefs or the VanChokeVer CaNoStanleyCups. They won’t be missed neither will they be allowed back on the oilers hype train when we win the cup. You want to boycott them? Do as you wish, just don’t let the door hit you on the way out

[@JM-sp2iu]

If I was Leon I'd be out the door. If I was even remotely unsure before I'd be pretty sure morally it would be easy to sign anywhere else now. McDavid will be gone next if he's smart.

[@getwrecked488]

Whatever

[@tonykung8756]

Is sweeping a sexual assault scandal under the rug a legit price to pay for winning a Cup...?

[@Hexadecimal_QueenofChaos]

No. And that’s what’s so devastating about this for the loyal oilers fans, we cannot even support the team winning the cup anymore after this disgusting decision.

[@MegaRyan59]

Nothing has been swept under the rug here, if you had paid attention to any of this at all. Classic case of "oh he was involved, Cancelled"... shut up.

[@tonykung8756]

@@MegaRyan59 Um…the Hawks were on a deep Cup run and this scandal was covered up to not be a distraction. Was Bowman NOT responsible for any of this? I mean, we’re talking about how several lives got ruined here. How is Bowman innocent in all of this…?

[@edgeofEurasia]

​​@@MegaRyan59 The Blackhawks also did nothing after the Cup run, and the sexual predator went on to work at a high school and sexually assaulted at least one student at the school. And the criminal had his name on the Stanley Cup for a few years until what happened came to light. It was layers upon layers of sweeping it under the rug. You don't want to ruffle feathers during a cup run is a terrible excuse to not report sexual assault, but the team continuing to brush it away compounds the bad decisions by Bowman and the other executives on the Blackhawks.

[@DANZIG138]

Kyle was a grown adult, he chose to get face fucked

[@lyalclough2612]

1 minute in and you're shilling. Okay, I'm out.

[@waxedjade8641]

Bowman! As an Oilers fan this breaks my heart. We have the best fans in the world, as a reward we are stuck with this heartless monster that covered up and protected a sexual predator, allowing them to offend again and again. Until this man is fired, my wallet and support are shut off to this organization. I'm not watching a single game, buying a single jersey, or supporting them publicly in any way. Some principles cannot be compromised, and I will never support those that allow young men to be assaulted by protecting the predator. any one that stands up for Bowman is a clown and should be treated like a clown. disgusting on so many levels. shake you head Seravalli Jeff Jackson Kats or any one that supports this guy should never be in pro sports own a team or speak on a media platform ever again, and if any one think he deserves a second chance, then there also a clown.

[@kalaupun]

Amen!

[@BobsUruncle-dl7cs]

AGREED...EMBARGO ON.

[@AlGrundauFlamesTroll]

It’s called a hiring a winning coach dimwit!!! Stan the man bowman son of Scotty bowman has 3 cups, 4 conference finals appearances. Signing him is a W. he’ll guide us to a cup. You’ll thank him later lolll! LET’S GO OILERS!

[@coryfunk2307]

I'm a rival of your team Im a flames fan but I'm glad to see an oilers fan actually stand up against I would be the exact same way if my flames did it.

[@Parture]

Oilers cant win with Stan Bowman. End of story.

[@wainber1]

In response to the question that forms the title of the excerpt of the TSN1050 Radio episode, I dunno if Bowman’s hiring will impact McD’s or Drai’s future with the Oilers, but I won’t be surprised if the Oilers become a lot less of a desirable destination for free agents given Bowman’s reputation for having covered up the sexual abuse of a player with the Blackhawks (Kyle Beach). Coverage of the controversial hiring takes up much of the 1st 4:00 of the excerpt although there may be more (TBD as I haven’t yet scrolled thru the 1st 10:00 of the video).

[@Parture]

@@wainber1 Single-handedly Jackson has destroyed the Oilers. No need to buy any products from the Oilers, go to any games. It's over. The dream is over to see the Oilers win the Stanley Cup. I would not take much pride in picking Skinner since he has a horrific plus minus ration. You won't appreciate how bad he is until it is happening. It's the same reason Kane sucks also with his career 50+ plus minus ratio.

[@wainber1]

@@Parture​​⁠ Picking Jeff Skinner was no doubt interesting for the Oilers to do although so was the Bruins’ pick of Elias Lindholm as a free agent. That means that respectively the Bruins and Oilers each have two players whose surnames are Lindholm (Elias the centre and Hampus the d-man) and Skinner (Jeff the centre and Stu the goalie). Whether the Bruins made a smart decision to pick Elias Lindholm up off free agency remains TBD although I don’t plan to underestimate the ability of them to make a deep playoff run next spring. It won’t be easy in an Atlantic Division any combo of whose remaining teams, bar perhaps the Habs, will be in the mix to qualify for playoff spots for much of the regular season. Elias Lindholm has playoff experience, having already made 4 such appearances over the past 6 seasons, having never gone more than a season at a time without such an appearance over that time span. Furthermore, last postseason, he put up a +4 and 10 points, five of them goals, over 13 games. Going into that recent stint with the Canucks, he had had a career -11 in the postseason with 17 points, eight of them goals, over 27 games. Jeff Skinner, who spent his most recent six seasons with the Sabres, put up in the regular season last season his third-best plus-minus with that team at -2, with those that he put up during the seasons of 2020-21 (-11), 2021-22 (-14) and 2019-20 (-22) arguably much worse. It’s easy to forget that the Canes, not the Sabres, drafted him, although also that during his stint with the Canes that team didn’t see playoff action even ONCE. With his NHL Draft team he put up, excluding preseason play, 379 points, 204 of them goals, over 579 games, with a horrendous -96. Given that up to and including last season he had, over 1006 career games with the Canes and Sabres, all regular-season ones, put up 670 points, including 357 goals with a horrendous -130, he put up with the Sabres 291 points, 153 of them goals, over 427 games with a still-horrendous -34. Skinner has taken a bet via a one season contract we orders although I’m sure he has an incentive to make a good impression as he’ll have the chance to make his first-ever Stanley Cup playoff appearance with his new team. These Oilers look on paper after all much better than the 2021-22 Habs, months after a Stanley Cup appearance of their own, ended up looking. How Skinner does with the Oilers remains, as he’s yet to play a game of any type of them, still TBD.

[@AlGrundauFlamesTroll]

@@PartureThey will win with Stan the man bowman! Don’t like it princess? Then lick Kyle beach’s cum off his meat and defect to Cowtown where they’re in need of snowflake BeachTards for fans like yourself

[@Vertigo11]

The Oilers are now Drakes favourite team

[@user-ko7cq6sp5f]

If im a player of with morals, im puking my guts out right now and would want out ... Wouldnt want my name associated with this hiring 😢

[@ClaytonCatlin]

As someone that was actually sexually abused by a male, on a lot of occasions as a toddler... I'm not mad about this. For many reasons... A) He wasn't the perp. B) People DO change... I've always thought that being sexually abused as many times as I was, I was never going to amount to anything. I'd have flashbacks of those horrible events, and it happened to me more times than I could even keep track of... But, after aging out of the foster care system, I started to come out of my shell. More, and more, I became a more productive person. I'm 32 now, and a bit of a late bloomer. But, because I've started to keep my past in the past, I've become better every year! While Stan tried to sweep the player's concerns under the rug... EVERYONE with a management role was doing the EXACT same thing at that time. It's just how the world was... Bullying people because of their past choices, and failures... That's repugnant. I'm sure you've made some horrible choices yourself. Imagine if everyone brought your poor choices up, and refused to let you move forward because of them?

[@MegaRyan59]

When someone starts a story with "as someone who has..." then proceeds to continue, you know all they want to know is talk about themselves. You could;ve made these points without making it about you lol.

[@kalaupun]

ah yes not giving a corrupt enabler of sexual abuse the most prestigious job in the sport would be "bullying" lol Bowman could have prevented Aldrich from abusing college students at his subsequent job, but instead, he did the opposite, he enabled the abuse to happen even after the guy left the Hawks Bowman belongs in jail not in charge of a team

[@jasonmayes2145]

It’s all good and dandy that you feel okay with this when you aren’t the victim here beach hasn’t said anything yet I think that speaks volumes also I’m sorry that happened to you

[@dangraesser5341]

I'm a life long hawks fan and those hawks teams proved that the odonkey is clueless about goalies. None of those cup teams had an elite net minder. They did have excellent tenders but it was the defensive systems and stellar shot blocking like jarlmason. The key is winning is out scoring the opponent. That's why the leafs are playoff disasters year after year. This year won't be any different offensively. They will be better defensively though

[@BobsUruncle-dl7cs]

You are closer than most to the TRUTH....deep dive Moma2s NewAge Hockey System.

[@stevenschembri1288]

When was the last time Stan Bowman won a trade?

[@Mr.DudeLebowski]

He inherited a good team from Tallon. Not sure his pedigree is as great as people making out

[@alanpaul9481]

@@Mr.DudeLebowski Its a similar job to Edmonton. You have a few stars and are trying to win in a cap era. He may not have 'won the trades' but it doesn't matter because he 'won the cups'.

[@Zentrix-24]

Stan should never never never have been re-instated in the NHL.

[@alanpaul9481]

I can't fathom that they would have made this hire without talking to 97/29, so I'm thinking it's not an issue.

[@ozzydo2314]

Bowman didn't build the blackhawks, he destroyed them.

[@mitchkeychain5815]

Well said. Dale Tallon Built the Blackhawks, Bowman blew it up

[@gravad5250]

Bowman was the right hand man

[@ethanparker7900]

well he did destroy them but a dynasty can't last forever and he did have his fingerprints all over 2013 and 2015 unlike 2010 that was indeed kind of given to him

[@BobsUruncle-dl7cs]

@@ethanparker7900 2013-15 were because of Moma2s NewAge Hockey System...do your research ok.

[@stoneysopranoyukon9398]

Absolutely horrible move, Jackson, wtf ?!

[@j.t.miller1641]

Anyone catch what that URL was?

[@magus5555]

This Hire was totally Unnecessary

[@JadensRedemption]

Champ Bailey

[@ethanparker7900]

Obviously his last 4-5 years were pretty horrendous in terms of moves he made and yes the core and the 2010 team was dale tallons work but people forget that 2013 and 2015 was bowman's work. Guys like Shaw, Frolik, Stalberg, Saad, Emery, Darling, Desjardins and Richards were moves he made that led to those respective cups alongside keeping most of the core tallon initially built intact. And while the trade part was questionable at the time, bowman was the guy who gave panarin his first chance at playing in north america, who knows if that were to have happened if it wasn't for that and even if he hadn't been traded, i doubt he'd still be in chicago today given that they're in rebuild mode and obviously he's having lotta fun in new york.

[@mikechar17]

I give Bowman a week. Can't believe the Oilers did this and the fans and Hockey won't forget, I hope. Players won't want to go there, losing leverage, awful decision.

[@williamlewis4075]

You actually think they weren't asked about this

[@patberlinguette6808]

Team Oilers..yu are the best ..even if yur management is weak..very weak and make poor decisions...

[@timmymiron2727]

Well, i don't know what the people are complaining about. The oilers are a team who loves giving a second chance, looking at Evander Kane, Corey Perry. Oilers, loves to take chances.

[@kalaupun]

Which sexual assault did those guys enable?

[@kalaupun]

TSN Fan Duel Overdrive is here to tell you that if you want to win in hockey you have to accept that sometimes a rookie needs to be pressured to accept oral sex from the video coach, and if the sex-abusing coach gets busted then it's OK to help him get a job working with teenagers in the college system.

[@happytrails151]

Neither had issue with Keith.

[@dangraesser5341]

Dale Tallon

[@BobsUruncle-dl7cs]

Moma2.

[@chankongsun]

Leon to Boston.....connor to toronto....

[@philwillett9102]

This "analysis" will not age well.... With his dubious/reprehensible past, Bowman is clearly not a "Players GM"....Not the guy you want to hire when you're trying to lock up 3 superstars long-term. On a side note, I believe the Bowman-backlash will all but guarantee Quenneville never coaches again..

[@patberlinguette6808]

Barstar.....yu are wrong..totally..hockey is emotional as well..why do yu think fans are upset...not the right guy at this time...just watch what happens...

[@baohoaily]

Since we're talking about hockey players (more robot than actual people), it makes no difference whatsoever. But since it's Stan, I'm sure he'll try to out Dubas them on their extensions, like lobby for an increase on max cap percentage and give them both $30M or something lololol.

[@nili8677]

Bowman needs to go , oilers reputation of city of second chance needs to change.

[@danielzerbe8567]

Tom G......... Lol HK

[@jimbacon7004]

I think Jackson is way smarter than Tom, The GM doesn’t play, just a bunch of stuff you guys can talk about, boring

[@newfieguy75]

Kenny Holland is writing all over this crsp

[@Buckdeer101]

Move on leafs fans. You might be a contender one day. Oilers will win and win BIG!

[@bryanwouters443]

cope harder🤣🤣🤡🤡

[@wainber1]

Time will tell if the hiring of Stan Bowman will help the Oilers, hurt them or have an in-between outcome. The hiring was a stupid one considering his reputation for having covered up the sexual abuse that when Blackhawks’ GM Brad Aldrich, a then-video coach, had committed on Kyle Beach. The 1st 4:00 include coverage of Bowman although the 26:05 mark features a resumption of such coverage.

[@steph1433]

😮😂

[@steph1433]

Dillusional

[@AlGrundauFlamesTroll]

Who tf said the Queefs are winning the cup? BWAHAHAHAHA Stan the man is gonna win a cup in his first year back as GM with Canada’s team before Tranna even makes the conference finals

[@chadwickbarry8371]

Winning the Connor vs. Connor showdown over the next 15 years will leave Bowman vindicated. Mcdavid 3 cups Bedard 0 gives the Oilers the long sought-after legacy they have been looking for. Scottys boy has the tools his father created. The question is, can he build a house worthy of the blueprints he has been shown. Good luck Oilers, 2025 should be a great year for your core. 🐾

[@dylanroot6401]

Dale Tallon drafted Kane, Toews, Keith, Seabrook, Crawford, and Hjalmarsson. Bowman took over after 2009. After Bowman took over, he did just enough to not fuck it up for two five years and then he royally screwed the pooch. Made horrible trades like Artemi Panarin for Brandon Saad, sent away young players after young players for nothing like Nick Schmaltz, Henri Jokiharju, Ryan Hartman, Adam Boqvist, Teuvo, the list goes on. Not to mention, he absolutely ruined the market by signing Seth Jones to an overblown contract all in the name of "staying competitive." He's a joke of a person and a joke of a GM. If the oilers win it this season, it'll be in spite of Bowman, not because of him.

[@wainber1]

@@dylanroot6401The Blackhawks, during the final 6 full seasons with Stan Bowman as GM, only won 1 playoff series, having won that series after the NHL had chosen to end the 20 19, 1920 regular season in mid-March due to an alarming rise in Covid cases across Canada and the contiguous US and thus had chosen to expand from 16 to 24 teams that had qualified for the Stanley Cup playoffs

[@Vertigo11]

@@chadwickbarry8371 you’re a clown

[@chadwickbarry8371]

@@steph1433 Visionary! 🏁

[@BobsUruncle-dl7cs]

@@chadwickbarry8371 Copycat.