Never Debate Me On Dragon Ball Forms Again, This List Is Final

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@TheSuperGoober
@TheSuperGoober 5 ай бұрын
Sage went Super Saiyan Rage when he talked about Super Saiyan Rage
@Sleepykuna
@Sleepykuna 5 ай бұрын
Accurate
@corujarandompt9330
@corujarandompt9330 5 ай бұрын
I haven't seen it yet, but I got to it and there's still 10 mins left to the video.. I'm afraid 😂
@sambuujargalsaihan6101
@sambuujargalsaihan6101 4 ай бұрын
Even you are better than me but i have more relying than you
@cawcawcaw9160
@cawcawcaw9160 9 күн бұрын
That would make more sense than super saiyan rage
@hollowichigo4568
@hollowichigo4568 5 ай бұрын
The amount of people that defend ssj rage over ssj3 is crazy
@jupiteralt
@jupiteralt 5 ай бұрын
UI is peak for me. Seeing Goku learning the ground work for the form over time. Achieving it on the biggest stage Goku has ever fought on. And after he still keeps learing to properly use it and even finding his own unique way to ustilize it. Eveything about UI gets me hype it really feels like the final powerup Goku will need.
@ethanhansen1479
@ethanhansen1479 5 ай бұрын
I love how much training and development the form has gotten. When I saw it in the anime I didn’t think we would get it fleshed out as much as we have had in the manga
@lucidstudious750
@lucidstudious750 3 ай бұрын
Best part of UI Is how it also ties into the martial arts portion of dragonball
@tylerberman7527
@tylerberman7527 5 күн бұрын
peak eh? best of dragon ball eh? what are you smoking
@naxmaxJK
@naxmaxJK 5 ай бұрын
Just for the videl at the end. I can't stop myself from joining in anymore ya got me.
@TSO_Sage
@TSO_Sage 5 ай бұрын
CUZ WHAT ABOUT HER!!?!? 🫡
@castform7
@castform7 5 ай бұрын
Sage waking up every day wondering how he got stuck with Rage defenders. It's like this form goes out of its way to not make sense to the point where it goes past "it looks cool so I'll let it slide". It doesn't even get to keep the cool pupiless look. This form is a living failure and I endorse the slander.
@jhonniekravchenko643
@jhonniekravchenko643 5 ай бұрын
You know whats funny, SSJ Rage is not even considered a transformation. Not even Dokkan Battle, a game where you have all characters in all tranformations possible have a single unit called SJJ Rage Trunks, so i dont even consider a Tranformation let alone a '' unique '' one , to me is just SSJ Trunks charging a Genki Dama.
@shahzebhasan9995
@shahzebhasan9995 5 ай бұрын
The frustrating thing about Orange Piccolo is that the awesome lore behind it, the fact that it's the culmination of his Namekian heritage and the fact that it's a reward for his service to Namek and the dragon balls, is relegated to the promotional material. (Edited, wrote "source material" at first).
@thedead073
@thedead073 5 ай бұрын
The anime IS the source
@shahzebhasan9995
@shahzebhasan9995 5 ай бұрын
@thedead073 thanks for correcting me, I meant to write promotional material.
@thedead073
@thedead073 5 ай бұрын
@@shahzebhasan9995 I preferred the typo. I assumed you meant the manga or something. They dropped this lore in the promotional material? Man...
@TsarDragon
@TsarDragon 5 ай бұрын
SS rage fans seem to be the flat earthers of DB forms. A lot of explanations for how it could work but none of it makes sense
@altreon3608
@altreon3608 5 ай бұрын
it's always so weird to me when people answer "how does this make sense" with head canon instead of just biting the bullet and acknowledging it doesn't. like ok bro you think super saiyan rage is cool, stop trying to convince me it's cool with your own fanfiction interpretation of it
@ggamesgarner8027
@ggamesgarner8027 5 ай бұрын
@@altreon3608it’s the same thing with ultra instinct. Goku literally just unlocks it even though he’s never even heard of the form previously and gets the completed form within 48 minutes in the top. Yet people try to defend this and even try and say UI is one of the best forms in dragon ball.
@jesiahratliff8034
@jesiahratliff8034 4 ай бұрын
​@@ggamesgarner8027FR
@jesiahratliff8034
@jesiahratliff8034 4 ай бұрын
​@ggamesgarner8027 not everything is supposed to have lore and not everything is supposed also the form is the same as Gohans beast and goku ssj instead of rage it's ptsd + rage... his accumulated emotions it's not that hard literally every ssj transformation
@jalenwho
@jalenwho 4 ай бұрын
@@ggamesgarner8027I agree
@bustie_justie463
@bustie_justie463 5 ай бұрын
Wheres "nobody can beat me when i'm super 17"?
@TSO_Sage
@TSO_Sage 5 ай бұрын
he’s too overpowered 🫡
@sambuujargalsaihan6101
@sambuujargalsaihan6101 5 ай бұрын
Super sayian rage is gross Edit: Thanks for 37 like? I guess? Edit: almost 60 like, and I'm the second most popular comment on this video Edit: 62 like nice
@mfrebel7831
@mfrebel7831 5 ай бұрын
Sucks so much
@milesjay2115
@milesjay2115 5 ай бұрын
god awful
@nickalas666
@nickalas666 5 ай бұрын
if beast is good then it is too
@Intr0vertical
@Intr0vertical 5 ай бұрын
It's literally just the vegeta rage boost against beerus
@christopher4249
@christopher4249 5 ай бұрын
@@Intr0verticalI mean yeah pretty much but just future trunks own variation of it in a few ways but honestly I just never never understood the hate watching of the form, like I remember seeing an article one time that called it an abomination like what?, i mean you would think this form would have done something insane for it to gain that title but it’s just an decently cool form that future trunks achieved.
@milesjay2115
@milesjay2115 5 ай бұрын
ui sign is definitely top two transformations of dragonball history💯
@Sleepykuna
@Sleepykuna 5 ай бұрын
Ssj1 goku: the most iconic transformation in history. Ui goku: the most hype transformation in history.
@thedead073
@thedead073 5 ай бұрын
​@@SleepykunaObviously not considering UI Sign is considered more hype than UI
@Sleepykuna
@Sleepykuna 5 ай бұрын
@@thedead073 I call ui and ui sign the same thing 🙏
@thedead073
@thedead073 5 ай бұрын
@@Sleepykuna gotcha
@ggamesgarner8027
@ggamesgarner8027 5 ай бұрын
@@Sleepykunayour forgetting beat Gohan. That man had the entire internet in shambles and it was a movie not even a tv anime.
@pasaniusventris4113
@pasaniusventris4113 Ай бұрын
I love Super Saiyan God for the pure fact that Goku's hair stays in his classic style. Usually, he transforms pretty quickly, so we don't get to see him fight too much with that hairstyle (looking at you, Cell and vs Majin Vegeta), and I find it really nice.
@lukadoncic5344
@lukadoncic5344 5 ай бұрын
As someone who watched this show growing up it’s really hard to not be bias, like as an 8 year old kids seeing ss3 for the first time was like the greatest thing I ever witnessed
@lazyking8445
@lazyking8445 5 ай бұрын
Again, UI, TUI, UE, Beast, and even Orange are the best transformations in DB history. Besides SSJ ofc
@Aquageo555
@Aquageo555 5 ай бұрын
Keep in mind, piccolo wished for his potential to be unlocked, not for the form specifically, shenron gave him extra on his own.
@ThePerfectMenace
@ThePerfectMenace 28 күн бұрын
OG ssj1 will Alyssa be my fav, to this day goku going super saiyan on namek still feels larger than life, and with how many times ssj has been referenced in other media. If ui broke the internet, ssj1 broke the world.
@Giji01
@Giji01 5 ай бұрын
Sage might be the only content creator i can agree on SSJ3
@Alienldr
@Alienldr Ай бұрын
I'm gonna be honest. I liked the idea of mystic gohan best. Not what actually happened. I do understand it's basically headcanon, so people don't have to agree. But I think the idea of mystic wasn't that he had his potential unlocked like with Guru (the strongest he could he at that age, without the rage boost). The mystic thing seemed like it was supposed to be his max rage boost available at all times. Effectively meaning he wouldn't get a rage boost in that form since he'd already be using it. Because of that, I feel if other characters did the elder kai's ritual, I'd feel it wouldn't be nearly as good since they don't have untapped power like Gohan had. It would just be a small boost, like Guru's. They should only get as strong as they could be if they trained as efficiently as possible at that age, and since Goku trained so well anyway, it wouldn't be that much. What actually happened was that mystic basically became another form, and it was like Guru's potential being unlocked again.
@standley_steamers
@standley_steamers 5 ай бұрын
32:39 videl is the best character form and transformation I’ve ever witnessed
@wrldondrugstv
@wrldondrugstv 5 ай бұрын
W List Sensei Sage
@Un_Original134
@Un_Original134 5 ай бұрын
bro lookin like a dragon ball himself today
@alatusedits
@alatusedits 5 ай бұрын
Ultra Ego has a Goated concept, but terrible execution as usual for vegeta. Which is the case for all of vegeta's first transformation fights, God forbid vegeta actually gets to end an arc in Dragon Ball
@kaienglish271
@kaienglish271 5 ай бұрын
Why is it a terrible execution ? Because he didn’t win ? Goku didn’t win first time in UI
@miky9504
@miky9504 5 ай бұрын
@@kaienglish271Cause he gets thrashed around and makes him look like a wimp when he accepts his death
@yasanoliver4807
@yasanoliver4807 5 ай бұрын
​@@kaienglish271 Well they tell you Vegeta gets stronger the more damage he takes, but visually it doesn't look like he's getting stronger. He barely uses destruction, the thing he was training to do.
@kaienglish271
@kaienglish271 5 ай бұрын
@@yasanoliver4807 Guys this is why we got to read. Beerus tells Vegeta the best way to use this power but he doesn’t do it , Vegeta says himself he didn’t use this power properly. We are being told he’s using the power wrong
@0wonder
@0wonder 5 ай бұрын
@@miky9504granolah was literally scared of vegeta when he went ultra ego and he was boxing him to the only reason he even lost was because he got to into the fight and started taking damage for no reason other than to take it and gas was literally the universe’s strongest and also beat goku in UI as well as
@lackypub8624
@lackypub8624 5 ай бұрын
Manga blue is peak for me.
@Cyberbolic21
@Cyberbolic21 5 ай бұрын
Super Saiyan rage doesn’t even look that cool
@phantomweight_editz
@phantomweight_editz 5 ай бұрын
Exactly n trunks is My fav character
@tipsiiiv1
@tipsiiiv1 5 ай бұрын
32:36 just knew he was gonna say it
@65firered
@65firered 5 ай бұрын
My issue with Super Saiyan Rage is that in concept and execution is just a palette swap SSJ2. Don't even get me started on it allowing Trunks to use a move he never learned base technique of.
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 5 ай бұрын
I personally liked super sayian 3 it was really awesome
@mfrebel7831
@mfrebel7831 5 ай бұрын
I like strong tranformations with drawbacks as a LAST transformation its great
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 5 ай бұрын
@@mfrebel7831 I can understand that
@mshar7908
@mshar7908 5 ай бұрын
Me too. I never understood the, "SSJ3 was never mastered by Goku." Honestly knowing how Goku is, I think he tried its just that the form is just always like that in a living body. Also it reminds of kaioken, if it were a form, neat.
@devaughnfranklin6683
@devaughnfranklin6683 5 ай бұрын
I missed that part of the stream 😭😭 Rage is cool but you literally can’t explain it 😂😂 I busted out laughing seeing all the Goats for Rage
@Nousername0
@Nousername0 3 ай бұрын
Ngl, ssj4 is goated lmao. I hope they bring it into super
@Spartan_Rage14
@Spartan_Rage14 5 ай бұрын
The way sage feels about SSJ rage is how I feel about beast gohan it is the most micky form in all of dragonball
@jace_519
@jace_519 3 ай бұрын
im convinced his fans are just fucking with him about rage at this point
@unofficial2480
@unofficial2480 5 ай бұрын
Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Kaiō-Ken times (multiplier) has to be one of the names of all time
@Nando.Bando24
@Nando.Bando24 5 ай бұрын
Ayo @TSO_sage you might not even see this, but just know every time you drop a video. I’m just ready to grub and enjoy the vids keep going Brodie a vibe fr
@SuperStarBrodie
@SuperStarBrodie 5 ай бұрын
Beats Gohan wasn't really a good build up but the actual transformation and the charge up being ssj2 was peak so personally i love beast gohan
@Popo_Plays
@Popo_Plays Ай бұрын
Ssj blue evolution is like ssj blue + ultra instinct it looks like both combined😂
@Nameless0ne419
@Nameless0ne419 5 ай бұрын
“nah, nah, HOLY ASS!, nah…” 😂😂😂😂😂
@Itsjupiter5
@Itsjupiter5 4 ай бұрын
Sage is spitting 🔥
@jasonblack2477
@jasonblack2477 5 ай бұрын
Ultra Ego peak😂. Everyone called his ass losing again. And when the leaks dropped he was a laughing stock lmao.
@mageenter
@mageenter 5 ай бұрын
I am hoping kaioken is here. And that it’s high in the tier list.
@mfrebel7831
@mfrebel7831 5 ай бұрын
Not a transformation but if it was or if it is. Stier i love it
@7evenseas975
@7evenseas975 Ай бұрын
Tui and ultra ego are my top godly forms
@bitviper3430
@bitviper3430 5 ай бұрын
4:15 The hate for SSBE is so unwarranted. The whole point of SSBE is to be like the SS2 version of SSB, so yeah there’s going to be extra details added on to make it stand out. “I don’t like how blue it is” is a crazy reason to not like something
@eucliffbentley9670
@eucliffbentley9670 5 ай бұрын
hard agree would they rather vegeta get nothing in that arc
@castform7
@castform7 5 ай бұрын
Yeah and it has similar problems to SS2 with any character not named Teen Gohan. Not liking how a transformation looks is a perfectly valid reason to not like it. Bluer stands out in such an awful way.
@WolfXGamerful
@WolfXGamerful 5 ай бұрын
I mean it's a factor when rating the transformations. Does it look good? Does it look cool in action? Does it make sense? Does it mean something to the character? Does it get the job done? And then you just gotta ask yourself how much of one aspect overrides the others. If it's even? Sick. If it's not? Oh well. So in the case of SSBE, if the point is what you say it is, then I personally don't think that'd justify me liking the form. I just think it _looks_ ass. Nicer blue color imo, but MUCH worse aura.
@VelvetAura
@VelvetAura 5 ай бұрын
it just looks worse
@bitviper3430
@bitviper3430 5 ай бұрын
@@VelvetAurait really doesn’t honestly
@eirhjien
@eirhjien Ай бұрын
100% on final freezy, the white and purple is so much better
@bigpoggers6507
@bigpoggers6507 5 ай бұрын
The amount of people calling Orange Piccolo trash for getting wished for truly reinforces that we don’t watch our own show
@markmeeky2651
@markmeeky2651 5 ай бұрын
Nah it is trash.
@Sarge327
@Sarge327 5 ай бұрын
@@markmeeky2651And you don’t watch the show
@markmeeky2651
@markmeeky2651 5 ай бұрын
@@Sarge327 i do, and it is a bad form imo.
@sachacozette9292
@sachacozette9292 4 ай бұрын
@@markmeeky2651 orange piccolo is speak bro
@keiv2211
@keiv2211 4 ай бұрын
He didn’t unlock the orange form right away. But there’s no denying that he wouldn’t have reach that level without the dragons help. Shit writing regardless of how you try and slice it. Form looks cool tho.
@fluffypuppy4388
@fluffypuppy4388 5 ай бұрын
SS Rage made me hate that entire arc.. when that happened I was like wtf is this.. this is the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen
@shahzebhasan9995
@shahzebhasan9995 5 ай бұрын
Honestly, mastered ssb, Trunks' healing abilities and Goku learning the Hakai in the manga are just as much of an asspull as Super Saiyan Rage. At least Rage allows Trunks to take control of his arc (briefly).
@dublethetruble4620
@dublethetruble4620 4 ай бұрын
16:42 literally thought he had some form of mui Just figured they made the contrast of colors for good and evil
@youngboyk3l826
@youngboyk3l826 5 ай бұрын
Piccolo/Namekians having a transformation is awesome, I think his wish should have used the power of all 3 wishes instead of 1.
@TheTupMan
@TheTupMan 4 ай бұрын
Alright Sage…time to explain SSJ Rage FOR REAL. At least, to the best of my ability. Cuz let’s be honest, there isn’t a “true” explanation that makes any actual sense, but what I’m going to say is the truth, it’s just not a whole explanation…exactly. If you’re even reading this comment, and you go rewatch the scene where he transforms into it, or any scene where he transforms into it and it takes any amount of time, watch closely. Because, my friend, he gets swole. As swole as a SSJ grade 3…but then he shrinks down. Into SSJ Rage. That’s literally it. But that tells us one thing for sure; it’s derived from SSJ grade 3 in some way. That’s the part I don’t know and won’t even attempt to answer cuz I can’t. What exactly caused this bridge to be built in the first place between Rage and grade 3 is what I don’t know, but I do know that it’s there. And my best guess is simply that the anger and the “mastery” (if you can call it that) of grade 3 mixed into Rage. And the only reason I’m somewhat convinced of this even more than just the show itself, in Dokkan, the form SSJ Rage is just called Super Saiyan. There’s nothing else to the name. It’s just Super Saiyan, like any other normal SSJ 1 is called. I know that’s a flimsy piece of evidence, but I didn’t say I’d convince anyone of anything, just explain to the best of my ability. And it at least tells us it isn’t part of a different level of Super Saiyan, which lends itself somewhat to everything I’ve said. Now look, I’m not gonna sit here and act like I’m trying to defend this form. Especially for no reason. I think it’s just such a subtle detail that most people didn’t notice it, especially on the first watch. Because I didn’t either. I literally rewatched DBS (except the first 2 arcs) and that’s when I noticed it. But it’s never discussed in the show AT ALL. I’m not trying to say it actually makes sense or anything like that, I wouldn’t even say I’m defending it honestly. I’m just trying to tell as many people as I can about this detail that it seems literally everyone missed and because no one in the show talked about it no one ever noticed it irl either. But I guess my yapping session is over now. Basically just wanted to make it known that the reason SSJ Rage is the way it is, is because of grade 3 somehow. Not really a great explanation, but it’s better than the nothing most people assume at least. Including you. Especially you, actually. And honestly, if you even see this, probably STILL you even after my spiel. But idc if you like the form or not honestly, just at least know everything about what little they give us to go off of. Also, while we’re all here, what does TSO mean? I really doubt you see this comment, but IF YOU DO, I’m curious.
@fullcourtjunky9530
@fullcourtjunky9530 5 ай бұрын
These dragon ball takes are the topic until further notice I see. lol
@shaneabraden3286
@shaneabraden3286 5 ай бұрын
Forgeting my 2 goats of forms(false ssj and super kaioken)
@JustCommentingMan
@JustCommentingMan 5 ай бұрын
My favorite transformation is super saiyan God for some reason always thought it was cool as a kid.
@shuri.kenz.
@shuri.kenz. 5 ай бұрын
you gotta watch carthu's orange piccolo video gang its fire
@BlackNChaos
@BlackNChaos 5 ай бұрын
You know, before watching Sage videos I use to think Rage was alright. But after watching his videos, Rage might be the GOAT 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@I_love_DBZ
@I_love_DBZ 5 ай бұрын
W Video Sage. 🔥
@brunoboxer4352
@brunoboxer4352 5 ай бұрын
The form Goku goes before the otherworld tournament is cool. Goku’s hair spikes to SSJ but his hair color is the same as his base form. It’s like Wrathful, but with SSJ. Using the form’s x50 multiplier, without transforming.
@DerriousGamez
@DerriousGamez 5 ай бұрын
That's not really a form they just forgot to color his hair 😂
@brunoboxer4352
@brunoboxer4352 5 ай бұрын
@@DerriousGamez it still counts as one. It’s not peak but it’s in my top 10.
@DerriousGamez
@DerriousGamez 5 ай бұрын
@@brunoboxer4352 it's just ssj but glad it's in your top 10 lol
@nickalas666
@nickalas666 5 ай бұрын
@@DerriousGamez 🤣🤣🤣
@nickalas666
@nickalas666 5 ай бұрын
@@DerriousGamez 🤣🤣🤣
@Jldavis07308
@Jldavis07308 5 ай бұрын
Sage should watch lord slug it would be good content 💯
@Radicson-b2m
@Radicson-b2m 5 ай бұрын
Super saiyan rage true explaining: -How do we make him stronger for plot - Add rage word to super saiyan and call it a buff, no it wont look at least better than super saiyan after first few minutes but who cares lol just do it - ok
@TheChosenOne0118
@TheChosenOne0118 5 ай бұрын
U know what's crazy even db sparking zero is trolling with Rage by combining it with trunks' super Saiyan form they don't even know what it is😂
@impish-love
@impish-love 5 ай бұрын
Buu and Coolers forms not here is crazy 😭
@hopeandthought4832
@hopeandthought4832 5 ай бұрын
Bro, you said Perfect Cell, and I could hear his theme.
@s0meguy09
@s0meguy09 5 ай бұрын
no one will be able to convince me that "orange" form isnt the albino namekians that lord guru had killed off.
@eoin1272
@eoin1272 5 ай бұрын
I like the logic of putting grade 3 up there because it's an imperfect form, but wouldn't 2nd form Cell follow that logic too? Not trying to say it should be up with first form but having it all the way down in nah? I don't think the journey to Perfect Cell works as well as it does without that middle form.
@markmeeky2651
@markmeeky2651 5 ай бұрын
He put grade 3 there because it is useless. it shows what not to do and shows how naive Trunks is. That is not quite the same as 2nd form Cell. That was his point, that's why it is above grade 2 in his tier list.
@ithoughtso.7016
@ithoughtso.7016 5 ай бұрын
lssj should be in goat tier because of how Z broly used it
@Comp1demon0
@Comp1demon0 5 ай бұрын
31:40 I was thinking this during the stream but didn’t think I heard it right, but sage got are list mixed up he said we have gohan under his but we actually have it above
@immaturepeasant
@immaturepeasant 5 ай бұрын
In my opinion, Super Saiyan Rage exists because Trunks got mad and they wanted it to look unique to him, instead of using something like SSJ3. But they purposely messed up the powerscaling of the form to make the form seem like it has more “significance” in the situation they were in. And they also, for no reason, made the design abnormally inconsistent. Also, the stuff it does makes no sense. Spirit Bomb Sword sounds cool, but how? For Trunks of all people? It’s a form of *rage* with too many mistakes, in other words.
@arsalanboy8133
@arsalanboy8133 5 ай бұрын
Is it only me that is wondering why full power frieza has been forgotten???
@BobbyMoore2-mp8wb
@BobbyMoore2-mp8wb 5 ай бұрын
I would love ❤️ seeing Beat Gohan vs Kale 🥬
@JacariTheNPC
@JacariTheNPC 5 ай бұрын
BRING BACK THE “naa” TIER IN FUTURE TIER LISTS
@myronn6396
@myronn6396 5 ай бұрын
ssj3 is so loved in the spanish and latin community
@TheSuperGoober
@TheSuperGoober 5 ай бұрын
Super Saiyan Rage Videl
@pasoking2483
@pasoking2483 5 ай бұрын
I been saying Ego was peak. I would debate that iy did make Vegeta Broken as hell because it wasn't perfected and closed the gap between him and MUI. Actually, you did say completely broken so that changes my interpretation. Either way Ego was a wonderful addition
@deltaagility8981
@deltaagility8981 5 ай бұрын
Me personally I would have put at least Cell and SSJ2 Gohan in Goat
@corujarandompt9330
@corujarandompt9330 5 ай бұрын
I havent seen anyone complain that goku, vegeta, etc never wished for more power, but if I did I'd think they're dumb, wishing for more power like that goes against goku and vegeta's characters so much, same for the z fighters but I wouldn't be as weirded out by it, they are always so strict about training and shit, heck goku himself said he didn't like his first time with ssg cause it didn't feel earned, it felt given to him
@parkerjunior1
@parkerjunior1 5 ай бұрын
Ssjrage to me is not that bad of a form,Its mid to decent at best, Plus i hated how they treated the form,The design i kinda like and its obviously not better than the z forms
@CupidSmurf657
@CupidSmurf657 5 ай бұрын
Piccolo watched Goku get a Godly transformation from askin shenron and could heard about granola and gas
@JaredAlmazan-m5v
@JaredAlmazan-m5v 5 ай бұрын
I think i found the joe Budden of dbz fans minus the burning bridges relationship part lol but honestly i like the more blunt truth kinda way ya go about things here especially in this video.. you don't care who ya might offend in the fandom but that's how ya feel or what doesn't feel great sometimes about the sires okay cool right.. The next part i wanna say is at the end of the day every z fans list will 100% be different no duh right even mine of course so any opinions on this shouldn't be met with angry cuz it's subjective
@cencereevens8004
@cencereevens8004 5 ай бұрын
STOP HATING ON BLUE EVOLUTION 🤬!! Ss Rage I can DEFINITELY agree 🙌🏿; but putting SSBE at the bottom was COMPLETELY unwarranted! 😠😤
@markmeeky2651
@markmeeky2651 5 ай бұрын
The form is w/e but the execution of the form was hella lame imo.
@lyricMNH
@lyricMNH 5 ай бұрын
My only disagreement is that putting orange piccolo above ssj3 is criminal 😂
@yasanoliver4807
@yasanoliver4807 5 ай бұрын
I guess this is a hot take. Ultra ego is trash. The exicution of it really let it down, Vegeta says his getting stronger but visually it doesn't look that way. He trains to use destruction but barley uses it. The only thing this form is good for now is to be a worse Goku Black, an equalizer for UI, and a reason to have Vegeta lose quicker.
@CupidSmurf657
@CupidSmurf657 5 ай бұрын
Ultra Ego definitely top of the crop we couldn't have fan service made a better transformation for Vegeta same for UI
@jesiahratliff8034
@jesiahratliff8034 4 ай бұрын
My fav form is ssj rage and my fav character is hit🤷‍♂️ thats how it is Trunks had to do everything on his own the form is just his emotions from loss and damage of the people he cant get back anymore it says it in the name super saiyan RAGE... 💀
@DivineXDiamond
@DivineXDiamond 5 ай бұрын
i aint even a gt fan. but super saiyan 4 would go up to GOAT for me. its ssj4, ssj, and ui omen. the big 3 of dragon ball forms.
@SavantPete
@SavantPete 5 ай бұрын
I don't hate Rage, it is super confusing tho. Best way I can explain it is that form is genetic. Vegeta got a similar form in Battle of gods. I hope main series Trunks gets the form and gets his own unique form to evolve it. Can't expalin that Spirit bomb sword sh*t to save my life tho.
@naxmaxJK
@naxmaxJK 5 ай бұрын
Piccolo wishing to get stronger genuinely seems like such a cop out considering how all the z fighters seemed to feel about doing things the "easy" way including pic. it puts a fat hole in the middle of the cell saga considering he wasn't willing to do it with arguably more at stake then? And we aren't even gonna talk about the whole wishing the androids away debacle before that. I love green unc and want him to get stronger but just not like this.
@markmeeky2651
@markmeeky2651 5 ай бұрын
Agreed, I don''t mind the form, but wishing for it just... nah.
@Fw.kyototrewcrew
@Fw.kyototrewcrew 5 ай бұрын
Another video, YES.
@gangsterspongebob6020
@gangsterspongebob6020 5 ай бұрын
Blue evolution is a good form for me, not appearance but narratively The way vegeta wants to grow was originally to go in goku's footsteps in training (Aka Training in the gravity chamber to achieve super sayain, attempting to tap into ultra instinct when fighting the power ranger dude, but failing), but then overtime during the T.O.P, he realized that HIS path to power, is to do things his own way, eventually unlocking blue evolution. The reason why this form is so good, is that it foreshadows Ultra Ego, and gives him a buff that equalizes him to SSBKK Goku, and the form itself represents a sign of his GOD path, just like Ultra instinct omen, foreshadows his angelic path, the perfect dynamic between the two.
@thedead073
@thedead073 5 ай бұрын
We don't even know how to achieve SSBE. It might just be another version of SSRage. Also Vegeta said he wants to do things his own way but we didn't know what that way was
@Sarge327
@Sarge327 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@thedead073We know exactly what that way is, the exact opposite of Goku lol. That’s kinda the point. It’s achieved in the exact same way most other forms are. Through hard effort, a need to accomplish a goal, and emotion. You can compare the way obtained to Grade 2 or SS3.
@MusicHead4041
@MusicHead4041 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for saying this.!! lol
@gangsterspongebob6020
@gangsterspongebob6020 4 ай бұрын
@@thedead073 well, the path to destruction, Majin Vegeta even explained that he was the ‘Perfect warrior warrior; cold and ruthless’ referring to his days either as a sayain or being under frieza’s wing, destroying and selling planets
@Striker2097
@Striker2097 5 ай бұрын
20:13 HEY I TAKE OFFENSE TO THAT
@MONKELIQUIDITYOFSORTS777
@MONKELIQUIDITYOFSORTS777 5 ай бұрын
Man… I feel so ashamed and genuinely disappointed in myself that I fell asleep in the stream somehow..😔
@naxmaxJK
@naxmaxJK 5 ай бұрын
Hot take omen should've been the it and he never attains master. Omen should've just gotten stronger through experience.
@thefallen2220
@thefallen2220 4 ай бұрын
Honestly SS Rage is fine its mid but at least they gave something to Trunks instead of him getting violated the whole arc
@nexus2691
@nexus2691 5 ай бұрын
Launch goat tier
@theteakettle5377
@theteakettle5377 5 ай бұрын
06:05 wouldn't Mystic Piccolo count on that argument too?(The yellow colored form that came before orange)
@calladus123
@calladus123 5 ай бұрын
goat is def ssj, UI(M) and SSJ4 (miss me with the red fur though) 😒
@lukadoncic5344
@lukadoncic5344 5 ай бұрын
Can we just like ignore super for these dbz transformations, because i can see why u don’t care for mystic gohan in dbs, but in dbz that was literal peak and so necessary for gohan, it’s almost the fact the transformation looks like so little that it gives so much. It made me never wanna see him in ssj1 or ssj2 again
@markmeeky2651
@markmeeky2651 5 ай бұрын
Nah, Ultimate Gohan is one of the worst transformations in the series Imo, it's lazy, boring and undeserved, even his design is lazy. even in Z. Especially the way it's obtained.
@Hoontor
@Hoontor 5 ай бұрын
Haki spam is embarrassing. Ui sign > Mui God > Blue Beast I personally think it looks better on chichi. (You know the one)
@mrme.484
@mrme.484 5 ай бұрын
get MID ui sign out of GOAT and put SS2 in GOAT and SS4 in GOAT. (ss3 in peak fiction) UI only broke the internet because of what SS, SS2, SS3, and SS4 did before it
@jonathangetachew5705
@jonathangetachew5705 5 ай бұрын
UI Omen in the anime: 😃😃 UI Omen in the manga: 🤡
@nickalas666
@nickalas666 5 ай бұрын
rage on beast should be on the same tier
@SupremacistX
@SupremacistX 5 ай бұрын
How'd I know it was UI Videl.
@diddly-squat9332
@diddly-squat9332 5 ай бұрын
Did he say "Ego's Peak" or "Widow's Peak"?
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