Not All Soldiers Want To Be Special Forces.

[@TSPLY]

Would anyone be interested in a series where " normal guys" actually end up doing elite mission.

[@GeneralDevilnow]

Yes

[@danielrose7566]

Yeah

[@fuckbitch7332]

Yup

[@noctudim98]

Yes

[@aig9672]

yessir

[@acevergel1999]

this is kind of sacrifice that really sucks but needed in the service.

[@crasherr17]

let me tell you its just not worth it..

[@Look_Upon_The_Heart]

@@crasherr17 Amen

[@BeatBoyStill]

@@crasherr17 maybe not to you but thats why there are so few

[@grizzly1s1kgaming]

@@BeatBoyStill because not everyone wants to fight for rich people who hide in their bunkers while they get shot at.

[@BeatBoyStill]

@@grizzly1s1kgaming fr man I feel that

[@adamf6582]

My dad was a ranger in the mid 80’s thru the late 90’s. He was never home, mom always told us he was in “Germany”. Come to find out years after he died that Germany was Panama, the gulf, Somalia and Kosovo. The time he was around for quality time was barely a couple months out the year. Weird feeling having a dad that kept from us he was a highly motivated and deadly man. He died 5 days after 9/11/01 almost like it broke his heart. I’m 30 now, former mp. Miss you pop

[@nvgboiyes6386]

Rangers still are solid dudes. They are tasked dangerous jobs as well like the green berets.

[@adamf6582]

@@nvgboiyes6386 they are the qrf of most specialized military units. They also conduct special operations of their own usually night raids. We saw a lot of smaller unit ranger action in Iraq and Afghanistan, everybody needs to stop thinking they’re just highly trained infantry. They’re always the first sof unit on the ground in wartime.

[@nvgboiyes6386]

@@adamf6582 rangers lead the way they always say.

[@marydillon3039]

Wow, you probably saved so many people, many people that you will never meet but are so thankful.

[@FighteroftheNightman]

Broke his heart bc it was an inside job

[@25BDominique2021]

Not every soldier wants to be special forces, but every soldier for sure wants to ask a special forces soldier something when we see them 😂.

[@MLGtroll365]

They never answer questions, they're always so secretive and vague 😂😂

[@muhazreen]

As someone who hate my toxic family SF seems great way to leave for better comrade

[@TSPLY]

typically a big reason soldiers actually go SF lol...they have A LOTT of awesome perks but there are always negatives

[@jimsweiven9764]

This is the words of someone who posts stuff about joining the military but knows they NEVER will

[@muhazreen]

@@jimsweiven9764 Yeah, i failed ROTC & got dropout, I cant face my ex-squad anymore bcoz i failed to stay with them

[@Jo-zz3be]

@@muhazreen you failed rotc and think you’d even sniff SF? Lmao

[@jimsweiven9764]

@@muhazreen HAHAHAHA weak

[@davidlanger3295]

Well, when I was in SF, getting away from my family was the best part

[@ubermensch8627]

Until your wife reads this lol 😂

[@bigdaddybuttmaster69]

@AccessGranted1337 introverts, wow so quirky.

[@davidlanger3295]

@@ubermensch8627 She actually committed suicide in 2008 on my 4th deployment to Afghanistan

[@ubermensch8627]

@@davidlanger3295 well that took a turn I wasn’t expecting. Probably cuz they kept ya bois training your ao amd 2 war fronts. Not saying cause but damn. SF gives their soul for this country

[@davidlanger3295]

@@ubermensch8627 After a 31 1/2 year U.S. Army career, I had 3 wives and 10 combat tours

[@petergriffin3127]

There was a phenomenal NCO in a platoon I served in and he was a perfect candidate for selection. He deeply cared about training Jr soldiers up and wanted to keep being that amazing leader to joes. Great videos and content! 🙌

[@bendixon8704]

True. I would say SF isn't always the "best," but they're a special breed. For example: I met a guy in SF who went to dive school 5 times, he failed each time by failing a water exercise..... He failed each time not because he gave up, but because he drowned each time and had to be resuscitated. Just a different breed of person.

[@BasementOps]

Going SF is the Army version of getting milk and not coming back.

[@user-wi1xs5pc7g]

💀💀💀

[@garrysanderson5793]

"The best soldiers join S.F, The best men do not." Edit to clarify that this is not an insult or assumption of character. Great men can make great soldiers and vice versa. I mean only to draw attention to the mindset and context surrounding the decision to join or not.

[@restinpeacekobe2411]

Very well stated. Soldiers. Best Men are dedicated to life away from battlefield. Best soldiers make battlefield their life.

[@garrysanderson5793]

@@restinpeacekobe2411 exactly

[@mariano7699]

Valid opinion shared by the sweetie whose waiting home🏡

[@Kometheus]

Your comment is stupid and has nothing to support it. If the best men are willing to sacrifice their entire lives for others more then once a decade then SF would definitely represent the best of men also.

[@Kometheus]

Sounds like yall are failed SF candidates. Or jealous.

[@6ft7guy]

"you can't consider yourself great unless you're chasing greatness" my father always told me that. He served in b squadron for special air service (sas) 1989-2001

[@NCrdwlf]

So true, I was a brat that grew up in the SF community, my dad was an 18 series. He was gone ALL THE TIME . Literally my last two years of high school . When I went in my self I knew that sacrifice and never wanted that for myself . I chose my own path and ended up not making the military a career. I guess you could say by virtue of the way I grew up I hit military career burnout by about my 6th year in the army . I took the Clinton early out and never looked back .

[@TSPLY]

We need good soldiers in the regular ranks. lol I just have always been more interested in the stories of the regular guys because of how much soldiers not in SOCOM are under represented

[@NCrdwlf]

@@TSPLY they really are. Especially line infantry and engineers. My cousins husband was an engineer and did 4 GWOT deployments as a member of the NCNG . Their workload was brutal and he had very long deployments . He was one of those guys that needed up on one of those God awful 18 month deployments in the 07-08 time frame .

[@firefightszz]

The good thing about sf is there will ALWAYS be some capable person who wants to join, but like you said it is a really difficult job that requires you to basically become a monk with a rifle.

[@TheNavypenguin]

My dad always told me, if you want to be the best soldier, don't have any type of family. That way you can just focus on what is at hand.

[@ik5852]

step 1: Dont have a family😈

[@wayofthewarrior_9_9_3]

Warriors path is the path of solitude

[@nvgboiyes6386]

Yeah, when being sf you shouldn’t be married. Once you are done with your contract then you can marry. IMO

[@RichardAmmo1]

But most soldiers still have parents and siblings…they will miss you too. It is a requirement when you decide to join; there will be some sacrifices.

[@harithdanial141]

​@@nvgboiyes6386that's even already practiced in old time. Like ottoman janissaries and germany ww1 stormtroopers

[@nvgboiyes6386]

@@harithdanial141 as well as ww2 US paratroopers.

[@Defund_HOA.]

Soon after getting to my first unit in Ft Drum, my squad leader told me offline "You can be a great soldier, or you can be a great father, but not both." It's not impossible, but everyone I knew in the line unit faced some kind of trade off.

[@christophernolen4117]

It’s absolutely tough on families and it’s definitely not for everybody. It’s a huge commitment above and beyond normal active duty folks. And I absolutely believe there are some great soldiers still who didn’t go SF, and it was mostly because of the family sacrifice.

[@TheLoneLeo]

Very true. I found out I value my family more than anything because of what they have done for me for the 18 years they raised me, and I feel that needs to be repaid

[@ChristopherGray00]

there are thousands of other valid reasons why most people would not join SF not just family... family is a small factor compared to the other reasons

[@vnvrchyvlphvvnvrchyvlphv1332]

Couldn’t have said it better. Seen hella grunts who would be perfect captain America SF for sure 😂. But like you said, the institute and things you have to give up ain’t worth it

[@TSPLY]

getting to put your hands in your pocket can get someone to go sf in the winter

[@DeliveryMcGee]

My father enlisted and chose 18E in 1969 because it was the most stateside training time outside of medical roles (if you were drafted, you went into the 11B meatgrinder, if you volunteered, you got to pick your job if you could pass the test). And, being the radio guy, he knew all the tricks -- if the weather was right, he could talk to a HAM in Dallas that could call Dad's then-wife on the phone and patch the radio through.

[@wassup253]

The biggest misconception is that SF doesn't care about family. Great leadership at the SFOD-A team level which is what matters the most, understands that when a team member needs to take a knee, they will take a knee. The mission will continue and when that team member is ready to return, there are no hard feelings. Also, there is something to be said about Quality time vs Quantity with family. Just two cents from a 24 year and going SF SGM, former 11 Bang Bang. Have a great Labor day weekend 🫡🇺🇲 SOF Truth I Humans are more important than hardware. People - not equipment - make the critical difference. The right people, highly trained and working as a team, will accomplish the mission with the equipment available. On the other hand, the best equipment in the world cannot compensate for a lack of the right people.

[@TunaCakes163]

I miss 5th group at Campbell. Best times ever!

[@olanrewajuihenacho178]

Your content is great. Informative to hear from thoughtful and insightful guys like you, Chris Cappy, and Ryan McBeth who have no egos needing massages. Ignore the haters and keep up the good work! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👍🏿🇬🇧

[@TSPLY]

Ryan McBeth is my spirit animal.. I actually started to make content because of him. Ty for the kind words

[@adenkyramud5005]

@@TSPLY you're definitely doing as good a job as he does. And I don't mean that in a negative way towards him, of course, I absolutely love what both of you are doing. I learned a lot from you, learned a lot from him and I always love to continue learning

[@friedchickenandwatermelon8307]

From my XP it was worse in a Ranger batt than the other SOF units, cause you were spec ops with big Army way of life.

[@TSPLY]

Yea I was going to talk on that soon..just wanted to get more data from a couple friends in ranger bat

[@michaelshaw8370]

It is all about being in the right role that you are best suited for. I was called into my Commanding Officer office told I had been shortlisted as a potential officer candidate. I asked for 24hours to consider and weigh up the options. Next day I put up that as a soldier and NCO I consider myself better than average. The boss said definitely high in the best five percent. I then told the boss. As an officer I saw my potential as average at best. Therefore I would be most effective for the unit at my current level. Doing the job and improving the standards of troops on the ground. I agree with you about the laser focus of SF

[@yaboiej1438]

My supply sergeant passed selection for Civil Affairs but chose not to pursue when they told him 6 months on and 6 months off rotation. Had a son and a pregnant wife and just could be away.

[@shaun_177]

Very true video. I'm an 11B and have been for 9 years. There are plenty of infantryman who are complete studs and extremely intelligent. However , for one reason or another they have no interest doing Special Forces mission.

[@MLGtroll365]

My brother hes a ranger and hes been on multiple deployments he alse fought in Fallujah. But because of his family he didn't go SF so i agree. But some guys like that time away 😂 id def go SF too

[@valeriejean6507]

Really like 👍 these posts....very informative.

[@iamjason1279]

Go in single guys

[@TSPLY]

100%

[@bleekskaduwee6762]

I wanted to be SF but I was happy just making it to a Ranger Bat

[@TSPLY]

awesome! Also very cool

[@bleekskaduwee6762]

@@TSPLY it was pretty cool , I was really happy to be there and to be honest I didn't have it in me to go any further. After airborne, air assault, pathfinder then rip(yeah I am old) I was just not up for an 18 month course

[@rustyspoonss]

My partners grandad turned down SF to be with his wife

[@manohousing5237]

*not

[@rustyspoonss]

@@manohousing5237 what?

[@v1ncecult80]

My partners grandad turned down SF not to be with his wife 🤔

[@jeffmatson2046]

Thank yu for the clarity and highly respected.💪

[@pissphungus]

my brother wanted to go SF. e5, tons of schools done, damn good soldier. had his 4th kid, and decided to be a instructor at the air assault school at ft campbell lol. now he just can’t wait to get out

[@mvslice]

I knew two SF guys in college, built like fridges, and were there after leaving the military. They took 5 bullets between the two. Every time a drunk ROTC kid tried to talk about how badass they were, and how they want to “see combat,” these guys would shut them down hard. It was a traumatic and difficult time in their lives, and they don’t regret it. However, they’re not stupid enough to think that the only reason people don’t join the military, yet alone SF, is because they “couldn’t make it.”

[@patbateman69420]

From my perspective as a civilian, the military already appears to be a huge sacrifice with respect to family. I can't imagine sacrificing any more. Respect to all!

[@brandonroach2152]

How to show, “Ididn’t get picked for SFAS” in 60 seconds or less

[@OldUncleDan]

Sergeant Major wanted me to go to ranger school and RASP I told him I enjoy my weekends too much to go lol

[@Facts.Over.Feelings.2A-PRO]

It’s sad, but it’s a real sacrifice that some ppl are willing to do for their country

[@HaroonKhan-dj3pn]

You know, I was selected by the Special Forces Linguist Program atthe end of OSUT @ C Trp 5/15 CAV at Ft. Knox, KY many years ago. When I was asked for a reply about how I felt accomplishing so much, and I turned the opportunity down. I was scared of the mission. When asked about the mission, I replied "To foment revolution in foreign countries by training opposing forces to the current gov't." I didn't want to go to combat with other country's troops behind me. Never mentioned that anecdote to anyone after that. I like what you said alot. Scouts out!❤

[@Obamanomicon925]

Bro I know I ain't made for that. Imagine the knee and backpain

[@josephfigueroa3527]

Not so much knee and back pain since they tend to work on the bare minimum gear needed , but your chances of survival are greatly diminished and you'll probably jingle like a tin can full off coins.

[@ignacioherrera8060]

I don't even want to have a family, i prefer to be with fellow operators, who i guess would be like brothers

[@mariano7699]

I SUBSCRIBED to your channel only because I appreciate your sincerity + the bonus : no background noises "music"

[@tfred2129]

My wife was all for it when it was just us. 3 deployments in 3 years later, we had a child and one on the way. My last trip, my squad leader and ATL got killed one night. Our FRG leader was our PSG wife's and she let the word out we lost dudes but didnt release names. That either ended my career in regiment or it was gonna end my marriage

[@Socceristhabomb]

Thank you for this insight. Priorities matter.

[@Tbtbtbqq]

Thank you for your service

[@ags4058]

Always happy to hear you again..:)

[@manuellabor2759]

SGM Lee Haney confirmed this in his book about SFOD-D/Delta/CAG

[@quaxenleaf]

Great point that most people never consider. Thanks for correcting this general misconception.

[@sekke8601]

This is unrealistic but imagine: you’re the best soldier to ever live! Join the special forces! Then the next guy is like, neh I don’t feel like it.

[@robertradtke5945]

I was at Ft Campbell too, loved partying in Clarksville. I was there back in 1985-87.

[@Girth.Brooks11]

Very well said!!!

[@jcspectro704]

Ft. Campbell woo woo 🔥👌

[@geraldbalceriv9669]

Honestly wasent a huge fan of your videos when one came across my suggested. But I am very glad that I have gave your videos another chance. I really appreciate the information that you share on the military. I never knew a lot about SF and other between the lines things about the military

[@frankalexander5401]

34 years in the Army. Never wanted to go SF because I am a medical officer (became the “Command Surgeon” in Iraq). Enough excitement and adventure for me!!!

[@jerm4957]

Depends on how you define "special" hehe

[@screamingeagle11b]

You're right I've met plenty that could've made it, but didn't want to go

[@dinosaur6106]

Woah what unit got a-couple buddies at fort campbell

[@guyring8912]

I spent 6 yrs in the Army and met many great soldiers that didn't have all the tabs & badges but were professionals who knew the tactics well and led and trained their men well. Many career soldiers have families and want to be with as much as possible. Military life is not the best for families because regardless your gonna deploy or get unaccompanied duty assignments, field exercises, ect. Tough life being a soldier.

[@syvallia24]

So true, it’s the only reason I didn’t drop packets like a crazy person!!!

[@skinnytothefeet3531]

Tip don’t start a family till after the military

[@Ugimara-Imokrasa]

Yeah... I was recognized in my unit for being "a valuable, always hard working soldier who achieved all his tasks to or above the standard and performed fairly well, all around." I eventually became a shamming sh*tbag due to the SF recruitment attempts, and abuse of my labor. If you work hard in the Army, you just get used. More and more. Despite recognition, I was a victim of racial discrimination and very poor, toxic leadership. I wasn't able to pick up my E5 while in that unit. Though, I reclassed to another MOS and I'm in a faaaaar better environment. All I'll say is my last unit was 3-8 CAV.

[@joshpointoh]

I was born at Fort Campbell. I grew up knowing I would join the 101st. but that turned out not to be in the cards after a bad accident when i was a teen. I'm happy how everything went, but i still feel a lot of appreciation and a tinge of jealousy to people who served

[@KennethFrierson-wt6xt]

I use train with SF medics when i was a new soldier many of those guys use ask if i was training for selection i was like nope im just trying be in my best shape.

[@kbig2377]

My dad is a retired SMSgt. Back in like 2004 he had a slot for TACP school but he tore his acl and that went out the window. Ended up liking being an MTI a whole lot more and said hes glad it happened the way it did otherwise we would've seen him a whole lot less and he didn't like that idea.

[@Goliath69]

Perfect volume

[@jacobwalker5097]

Not me man, once I'm in the Marines I'm going to try my absolute hardest to get into the raiders that's always been my dream

[@SantomPh]

Good for you.

[@user-wi1xs5pc7g]

Well it’s gonna be a long shot before you can be recruited into MARSOC Raiders lol 💀, if you’re looking for a consistent amount of DA-Direct Action operations to perform, go to the 75th, if you wanna do FID-Foreign Internal Defense or UW-Unconventional Warfare, go SF. Don’t waste your time in a conventional marine unit when you can have it right away, or even go SEALs, that’ll be better

[@ChapterMasterADO]

We're all human. God bless all warriors

[@typhaonz]

I used part of that picture for a school project

[@hadleymanmusic]

Like my buddy hes a retired seabee but he signed up for seal training and rang the bell 3 days later. It didnt make him a failure he already had his job.

[@ChristopherGray00]

not just about family but also what the missions entail, typically SEAL missins will be very low quantity operations, making it extremely dangerous, whereas if you're in a non special forces unit you will have (most of the time) a significant amount of friendlies around you often.

[@lancerosendale1869]

I'm joining the 19th Detachment group for the army national guard! 19th and 20th detachment group are the only SF groups in the national guard with high standards and intense training! Also gotta get jump school qualified. I'm super excited I'm gonna do something good with my life

[@catch.22]

Yeah not seeing my little girl seems like a raw deal dude. I love my kids so much I dont wanna leave.

[@gusbiv8282]

Same reason I kept turning down my E-5 best friend from 160th SOAR group, he kept leaving paperwork to apply for them on my desk once a week for over a year. I had wife and 3 kids and didn't CHOOSE my career over being their dad and a husband. Being in Air Assault Air Cav units was more than enough for me full time.

[@doubleemcastillano464]

This is stuff you don’t really think about until you get older. I feel the same about the Marine Corps. Many times they aren’t even looking for the guys that are the best, they are looking for specific qualities applicants have and don’t have.

[@Jake_Mobley14]

USASOC in general special breed of people. 3rd group (where I was at) had a lot of opportunities to learn from team guys doing train up missions and other TDY’s they had.

[@certifiedhoodclassic7833]

My dad was SF, before he retired and took reemplyoment recently. He was never there and me and my family were just tossed from one place to the next, i had to take care of my mom and sister, i never got to enjoy the things regular kids do never got to have friends and i wouldn't want the same for my kids.

[@Kevin-iv3lv]

That's actually comforting to know that some regular infantry or whatever have & use what it takes just like SF. It means they're peppered throughout the forces. That's an awesome edge to have in a regular infantry battle. Leaders of nations can be unbelievably cruel so I'm glad we have the military we have even with all our faults. I wish more combat vets were the majority of our representatives. JOCKO WILLINK FOR PRESIDENT. It blows my mind that people don't hold this opinion. Healthy combat vets should run a nation who's been at war basically since our inception. I think we would back off with the wars & proxy wars. Keep our military just as strong, use military budget in an intelligent way. Anyway, there it is

[@jimhardiman7735]

5th group was deployed with my Company in Syria... Those guys were crazy, they gave me and another soldier a bag full of goodies, MP5s with suppressers and Claymore type of stuff.

[@betrayal6231]

My father in law turned down being a scout helicopter pilot in the SF. He flied Kiowas and trained troops for scout helis in Iraq and Afghanistan. He was in Bosnia way back when, and he did many missions in Central America on military Drug operations. He is still an instructor at Fort Rucker in AL, they are now using a new helicopter. The last training Kiowas were retired last year. He’s a family guy at heart, I think that’s why he turned down the SF contract from fort Campbell

[@spacewiz163]

Neutral position does sound safer🙂😄

[@darrinmowrey4055]

The same goes for diesel techs, not allot of people want to be on call 24/7 to work on trucks that are broke some when they could be home with their family

[@sgt.grinch3299]

Truth.

[@charlesncharge6298]

True. I was married when I was in, and made many career decisions based on that. I was offered an airborne, and rip slot at osut that I turned down because I already had orders to Colorado, my wife was excited about it, and I missed her. If only I had known how everything was going to turn out I'd have taken those slots.

[@lofton9959]

I’m sorry about that. But if you did what you felt was right at the time, then no need to sulk over that. There’s a reason you made those decisions. Who knows, maybe you wouldn’t be here right now if you did go down that road. Better divorced and alive then dead and widowed.

[@chubbyolgroundhogtv6699]

You did the right thing given the situation, you put others first and that shows character that so many people dont possess. You have nothing to regret sir you did your best and respectfully thank you for service.

[@boiboi9689]

My dad was stationed at Fort Cambell for about 3 years and retired at Major.

[@Idkwhattoputhere66]

My father went to fort camble I lived in Kentucky too.

[@CorgiEnjoyer]

Same thing with my bf. Im not military so forgive me if i get stuff wrong but in marine basic he kept getting told he should go active and maybe even got a marsoc offer iirc, but he'd rather work, try to get a degree, and he didnt want to leave his family

[@ShepherdOfTheSilkies]

Had a freshy Cpl go through MARSOC selection then deny it because he talked to the MARSOC guys and realized the op tempo was higher and they weren’t a fast and loose as he thought. He was already a Recon Marine mind you.

[@45-Lampkin-Lane]

You could argue that with almost any profession. I'm sure there is so much talent we will never witness. Like I knew this kid in grade school that is so much funnier than any comic I've seen

[@thedemogamer6595]

It takes a big man to put your family before your job.

[@ChristopherGray00]

i think the family aspect is a complete joke in comparison to the other hardships you will be facing in special forces, the training is brutal, the missions are insanely risky, the treks are relentless especially with the high luggage equipment you will be carrying, it's all a cohesively insane task,. quite honestly my family would be in the back of my mind with me getting out alive being in the front.

[@trissren4401]

@@ChristopherGray00thats the point u could literally die and never be there for your wife and kids 😭

[@Jay-kh4sz]

@@ChristopherGray00bigger picture pal, these people have children to raise and dont wanna risk death by 7.62

[@ChristopherGray00]

@@Jay-kh4sz if i had children to raise i wouldn't sign up for special forces, i'd even argue that's irresponsible and putting your family at huge stress, you won't be there to care for your children or wife, and you might even die there.

[@TheSuperGtastic]

I agree, it is a choice between career or being with your family. Some great soldier exist in other career paths.

[@korosheht5446]

Now this looks like a job for me

[@braxtonlee3947]

I always thought that being special forces was hard physically but as I got older and talked to more people and heard there stories it really is the long times away that you spend from your family and just having a normal life being special forces is badass but definitely not worth the headache I wouldn’t make a good special forces soldier either I don’t even want to join the regular army

[@bivvystridents3752]

Thank you for sharing this.

[@GHOST-zy3ji]

I once meet an infantry E-7 that had Jump Master, Air Assault, Pathfinder, EIB, CIB and Ranger School Other time I saw a SG guy that had CIB, Air Born and CIB I feel that the grunt was more dedicated than the SF guy You’re right about there are soldiers with amazing potential but not everyone wants to be sf

[@tacobagcharlie9298]

Ive been wanting to join the USMC for a while now and have no intrest in anything special operations related. Im more interested in being just the run of the mil machine gunner or motorman.

[@SantomPh]

It's a ton easier doing that in the Army. A lot less of the annoying prrconception that you are a killing machine, part of a brotherhood,hoora,semper fi etc. In the Army you train to do your job and can just relax otherwise. Marines are Marines no matter what the MOS, so you get so much indoctrination around you.

[@tacobagcharlie9298]

@@SantomPh im aware of the difference ive known people in the army navy and marine corps. The only branch i havnt really known anyone from is the airforce

[@woodlandxwarrior]

I could do it physically but I do not have the mentality for it for sure. I couldn't handle the psychological pressure without anger or whatever. Thought about going to special forces, warrant officer, or some other high speed path but I was too invested in getting out and with not having to deal with other people. I'm not cut out for any of it.

[@No_Budget_No_Problem]

Man I love my family too much to do that

[@croe374]

Yep that’s me didn’t take that leap…..still got my legs though thank god

[@joelharvey579]

What about SF national guard ? Seems like you would have plenty of family time and from what I’ve heard they are big on making sure you get that time with your family. Please advise