TTA Podcast 114: I Live With A Believer

[@zsw3958]

I'm a believer that's been listening to over 10 of your past episodes for the past 3 months and loving your perspective, positivity, how you handle conversations, and the number of various topics. I've definitely been doing research and talking a new look at the bible at my own pace after having consistently studied it the past 7 years when i became more devout. Thank you for what you do!

[@antonio1924]

You sound like a Truther like me, we just want the Truth but inteligent design is beyond obvious!

[@trippytraveler6773]

its amazing how many stories you hear of people who are devout christians but have NEVER read the bible!!!!!

[@mrx00666]

"You got to slow down sometimes in order to make the turn." Wise words.

[@Swempa78]

Seth, you love the show and we love you and what you do! You're awesome Seth :)

[@ivanjovicevic3021]

What a wonderful couple at the begining of the show. I'm at a lack of words as to how much their story moved me. thank you for sharing the story, and being active. Lots of love my friends!! :)

[@jakalope1218]

another brilliant podcast, I hope my partner "sees the light soon" myself

[@jasoncarpp7742]

For a few months after my grandmother passed away, I lived with my aunt who is not only a fundamentalist Christian, but also a Republican. While neither bother me, its her attitude towards those who don't believe in God or in Jesus that does.

[@Nai61a]

I found the story of the first couple moving and extremely uplifting. There is hope There is life after delusion.

[@saxmanchiro]

Whenever a theist confronts my disbelief stance, I like to ask them to contemplate a single question and then a follow up statement. Q- Why do you not believe in Thor, the god of thunder, or any other gods? S- Once you analyze that reason, you will find out why I arrived at my conclusions regarding belief in gods. Good podcast, Seth.

[@chuckclark3214]

Bill and Suzy’s story is awe-inspiring! I hope my wife and I get to that point someday.

[@joycesky5041]

So I had a few glasses of wine 🍷and feel like singing... "That's me in the corner...that's me in the spot light...LOSING MY RELIGION" That song came out EXACTLY AT THE SAME TIME when I left Christianity and I'd sing it all day long!!! Yeah...LOSING MY RELIGION!!! So this show is called I Live With A Believer... It sounds like a SCARY HORROR SHOW!!! UGH!! I love you Sent and you've helped me so much! Thank you so much. 😁

[@tehspamgozehere]

26:30 "I thought something would happen to my family" - Yeah.. Not trying to sound nasty here, but the fact that the caller here says she was worried that the god would strike down her family as a punishment for her turning away from him? That there? That's a really messed up thing for a religion to plant in someone's head. Consider how petty and cruel the biblical god is, it's well within character for him to do something like that too. There's a word that describes these kinds of passive or low level, even subliminal teachings and thoughts. Insidious. So glad these two managed to get out.

[@melzapeace3816]

Omgosh bill and Suzy remind me of our story... Very encouraging ty

[@Anonmare]

Agreed. Parent's who abandon their children over such things, do not deserve their love. Parents need to support their children, irregardless of beliefs, religion or sexual orientation. I'm a bisexual and yet to come out to my parents and I made a promise to myself. If they cut me off, I'm cutting them out of my life and maybe sometime down the road they'll realise what they did and we can start over. Because at the end of the day, they're family and you don't abandon family no matter what.

[@drake149]

Great show really enjoyed the commentary from the first couple, keep up the good work!

[@TheWdayton]

Thanks for this show. I live with a believer. We grew up in the same church. I left; she didn't. We tease one another sometimes, but we don't really fight about it.

[@shizunne]

Lol, I know this podcast aired years ago, but titling your video "TTA Podcast ###: Kick that Puppy!" is a great way to get demonetized, haha Keep up the great work, you're awesome!

[@EarlFaulk]

I actually called in on this one and made it through

[@bakirev]

It's interesting to listen to this topic. I was always an atheist. My father is an atheist and my mom a christian, not the kind of christian that interprets the bible literally. I was born in Armenia where over 95% percent of the population is christian. But i always lied when I was asked, because I didn't want any problems with friends. Most of the people don't read the bible nor go to church. They just think "My parents told me there is God, so I believe it."

[@dfadden62]

Can I like this more than once???

[@epiclyfaled]

Last night I watched this video. Today I came out about being an atheist to my parents. My mother told me that I'm not allowed to have an opinion or a say in my spiritual views until I no longer live in her house. On top of that she is going to take all of the things I enjoy when she returns from church.

[@travgear]

Great Show Seth. I enjoy the format you use to bring the truth. This topic relates to me when I lived at home. It was difficult to go to church when i didn't believe. I was afraid my dad was going to shun me. I tried to move as slow as i could sundays just so he would leave me home. But now my dad just prays for me. lol, guess it's good that he thinks about me. My wife is not a Atheist but doesn't believe in the bible, just some higher power. She can't explain it and i don't ask (too much)

[@radiobox32]

I live with 3 believers. All my immediate family is Christian. I stopped believing about 1 1/2 yrs ago. They do not know I'm a non-believer. I must keep it quite, but it's hard. I go to church 4 days a week, and I'm about to enter college. :/

[@trippytraveler6773]

wow the people all around you are worshipping to not go to hell, meanwhile your already there.

[@rodneywoof]

I am really glad for this couple.I have hope in people now.

[@ReiperX]

I'm glad your mother is doing better and that she had such great doctors. The whole praise god and ignore the doctors has bothered me for a long time, and when I recently voiced it a friend came back and said "well God made it possible, and thanking everyone else just takes too long." Sometimes I really hate people.

[@kruszer]

You mention another episode in which theist-atheist romantic relationships are discussed... Can someone tell me the name/number of that particular episode?

[@Aethuviel]

You may have already found it, but it's number #20 - Can an atheist and a believer... sumthin. :P

[@Nickoliatan]

I am dating a believer. When we met I told her upfront that I was an atheist and she was ok with it. Weve been together now for 18 months. She believes what she believes and I don't believe what I don't believe. We have decided that if we have kids that they will be raised outside of church, and we will teach them about the god hypothesis from many different faith perspectives. She understands that we are not born with a belief. Point being is that we have a great relationship regardless.

[@vryc]

Seth, I think a second podcast is a great idea. Becoming more well versed in what actually defines you as a person, who has the ability to spearhead and represent so many other points of view or methodologies; to at least get people conversing and developing a more coherent world-view(s) than is often expressed - is a good thing. I think the real key with developing another show is to get a long list of showrunners who would co-develop various 'casts' and contribute to 'casts'.

[@ainsleymeyers446]

I know I am late watching this, but I really enjoyed listening to you talk about your plans for your wedding. My husband and I got married six years ago, very religious ceremony, and I almost wish we could do it over now that I no longer believe in God.

[@lizmariposa1]

I hear you, Seth. I'm married to a deist... and while it's so much easier than being married to a person committed to a particular religion, we still have our skirmishes... it's much like you and Natalie.

[@jimkordahl9490]

Great topic!

[@TedApelt]

Looking forward to whatever that Baptist preacher has to say on your upcoming show.. I hope that he makes as much sense as the Methodist minister did.

[@Ejaezy]

I hope my fiancé comes around. I see how her belief negatively affects her (she has bad anxiety) and it's hard to compete with. Whenever I think I'm making progress, she backtracks to her belief and I have to start over again. I hope things work out well

[@saxmanchiro]

It was that fear of seeing a close friend burning in hell that lead me to atheism at a very young age of 6. By 10, I had completed my deconversion. A priest, during Mass, told us non-Catholics were destined for hell. My best friend was not Catholic. This freaked me out. I ran over to his house afterwards and pleaded with him to become Catholic. His mom said the priest was wrong. PRIESTS LIE?!? That got me started on my escape from religious jail. That was over 47 yrs ago. Vivid memory for me.

[@crystalheart9]

I was told the same thing by nuns during class. I couldn't believe it was true and worried about my friends who weren't Catholic. Religion is poison.

[@vryc]

I think Nietzsche was onto something when he described the initial stages of atheism as if 'looking into an abyss'. This is the way people perceive their entire life and the postictal period that comes with that petrifying question: what DO I believe? This vacuum of 'belief' often leaves us stupefied which seems to stretch on forever. However, once this passes you begin to really 'think' for the quite possibly the first time in your life and the water is suddenly so clear.

[@gino14]

Interesting point of view... I'd like to hear your reasoning on this one. Do you mean religious moderates?

[@LittleB2007]

The picture on the screen: Which is the believer? Is it an atheist woman trying to wake a religious guy up from ancient superstition or a nutcase religious zelot harassing a modern freethinker with her "Truth?" LOL

[@zeruaeno1275]

I am non religious. Should i ever have children i would expose them to the many cultures and beliefs, not trying to indoctrinate them to any particular thing. And let them freely chose what they find suites them best.Being de-converted, I wish i had that freedom to have explored all sorts of philosophical,and religious systems I do now when i was younger. but hey better late then never. I am a person who is passionate about the discussions of what could be possible. My mom is a strong believer, while not exactly a fundamentalist, she and i while butting heads occasionally we still love and care for each other and try to support another spite our difference of opinions.We also do our best to respect each other. while I am not as Vocal as some non religious free thinkers, I do get all fired up when the topic comes up.

[@SuperNightassassin]

Hey everyone, this is my first podcast I'm listening to and I'm planning on listening to it regularly. Is there any back story I should know about the speaker or anything like that?

[@MyPisceanNature]

I absolutely love de-conversion stories.

[@TwistedTruffles]

That's an AMAZING title!! You should message Seth on facebook telling him that so he reads it! I was trying to think of one in the shower today but I just ended up singing Disney songs, lol.

[@obsc3n3skull]

Looking forward for the discussion about god!

[@TwistedTruffles]

Word from the teenager: Do not listen to TTA right before falling asleep. You will have dreams about dating a middle age theist and going to a relationship counselor that happens to be Seth. (literally this happened in my brain last night)

[@corinaamato3519]

I'm so sorry Seth. I've been at odds with my family, not about religion, but in the end you just have to hold your own. And since, actually, you are right, I am so proud of you for taking this in the absolutely correct direction. I am so hope you never have a single doubt about what you are doing. They are BRAINWASHED and that is the nicest thing I can say about it. When someone says, why do you care so much about this, I say fighting against religion is fighting for the minds and future of children, who need to exercise their reasoning abilities from a very early age to give them the best chance at life. Religion really hurts people.

[@TwistedTruffles]

Feel free to message me any time if you need to vent more! We're around the same age. You've got people here for you

[@Prometheus720]

@TheThinkingAtheist I really would be interested in another show like that. I'd like to hear your views on other subjects, and to be honest I think it might even sort of flesh out your viewerbase. I mean, someone who watches a video on politics might find your other channel and be like, "Hey, I like this guy. I wonder what he thinks about religion." You never know! And to be honest, there are really only so many things you can say about religion and atheism. It's always good to stay fresh!

[@Disthron]

Hi Seth, I have to admit, I have no idea what pod-casting is like. I only listen to "pod-casts" on KZbin. But if the infrastructure is so horrendous then maybe you should start a Kickstarter and build a new one. I mean you seem to know what you, and presumably others, need. You have a large fan base and connections to other groups that I'm sure could help you both spread the word AND help you create it. You could make is in such a way that other groups, even unrelated ones, could use it also.

[@mynorgonzalez691]

Very good story thanks for sharing.

[@LeMonS531]

Welcome to the A team!

[@BitcoinWillFixEverything]

Seth, I would pay the one dollar. Thank you for your contribution to rationality.

[@travgear]

good point. Well done on the show.

[@codynorton5800]

As a youtube browser looking in upon a podcast, video gets the users reaction, especially when it is posted on youtube. I have a hard time listening to this especially when trying to direct my intention on nothing but audio being an avid web browser, you can get your attention lost much more easily in other sites rather than listening to audio, much like an add in the background of a website that a novice user doesn't know how to turn off, but a video...well my eyes are my main focus for the web

[@ImTabe]

It would be really cool if you could get Penn & Teller on when you grow a little bit bigger (Yes Teller too... He talks, just not that often.)

[@domramirez1118]

I have this problem. It's especially unhelpful that Joseph Smith gave explicit conditions about the value of a marriage.

[@Prometheus720]

I'm really sorry you had to go through with all that. I agree with HybridD91. If you can't connect with her, it's not your fault. You don't have to love her just because she is your mother. You didn't pick her. And in the end, if it helps, you know you didn't do anything to hurt her. It was her choice to act the way she did. Your hands are clean as far as I can see. So enjoy your new family, the one you did choose. You're free to forget, if you wish.

[@chsparkle]

I lived with a believer for a year but her view was that god had created me to be stubborn and questioning of everything so she didn't see why he'd send me to hell for being who he made me to be. Unlike another of my friends who does believe I'm going to hell simply for not believing.

[@romperstompist]

In a way I am happy that I was brought up as a child in the church. I gain perspective from it. I always knew the churchy crap was crap, but still believed in Jesus and Yahweh. Over time of course this changed, but when I do discuss these things or think about these things that are religion, I can understand where the other person is coming from on a rather deep level. I am in no way advocating raising children with bible school, but I am glad I went.

[@spencercool100]

Hey Seth, have you heard of subbable? It allows you to allow people voluntarily pay for a channel, and in return, they get pionts that add up so they can get t perks like a TTA T - shirt or poster, but other people who can't afford to pay can still watch for free! That might work for you

[@debbietampasheher3682]

I live with my brother and his wife. Both believers. No big deal. Our core values are the same.

[@beeto45]

1:01 Seth said: do not forget [to thank] the trained specialists. but i say: do not forget to blame god for designing the "'decease"' in the first place!

[@radiobox32]

It will probably be when I move out, thank-you.

[@atheist535]

Worship Music by Anthrax, great album.

[@MadBrainBox]

You could try the "pay what you want" model for the new podcast at least for a little while.See how it goes.

[@sunflowerhelen9933]

Still happily married to my believing husband maybe partly because my husband stopped attending church around the time I left in 2007 and I haven't been very "militant" about my unbelief.

[@BigRalphSmith]

That has to be the most aggressive passive-aggressive response I've ever seen. Okey-dokey. You don't care. Got it. And yet you took the time to respond. Anyway, believe whatever you want. Just don't let your unfounded beliefs affect others and we're all good to go. Best wishes.

[@rad4life1]

Great show

[@tehspamgozehere]

"I hope I'm still doing this show when I'm sixty." Ten years on, still going strong. I'm just imagining it though.. "Honey, where's my microphone? The podcast is starting!" "On the table beside your teeth." "I checked there!" "Beside your OTHER teeth." "Ohh."

[@KowboySantos]

i too, live with a believer. we have some work to do

[@rubastic]

Which one is the believer, and which one is the atheist?

[@StrikaAmaru]

I am currently at the 23rd minute. The content so far was some presentation about what will follow in the show, complaints on the sorry state of podcasting, and two people's gradual deconversion stories. Where, exactly, do you see hatred? Let alone an amount of hatred that you "cannot handle"? Would you like to point it out to me?

[@NCXitlali]

Why does it even matter? A lot of my friends are Christian, Muslim, Atheist, Pagan and we all get along and couldn't give two shits was we believe or don't believe.

[@pwoods100]

Seth argues with his girlfriend/wife who is a deist? Doesn't seem like there is much to argue about.

[@rstevewarmorycom]

Well, a Deist god has no effect on reality, so it is pretty much indistinguishable from not existing at all.

[@BigRalphSmith]

Alunya, the reason people care what others believe is that beliefs inform actions. If your beliefs were only your own and never affected any other person, no one would even care. That is not the case with our society and world. If others make you feel bad about some aspect of your beliefs, wouldn't you agree that it's just as important to look in the mirror as it is to look at those who make you feel bad? I don't hate Christians, I hate Christianity and what it makes good people do. You DO care.

[@MrEek11]

Probably overgeneralized, but when I think of my teenage kids and their friends and the stories they tell, I am hard pressed come up with a counter example.

[@obsc3n3skull]

I would love to help you with the podcast in any I can!

[@Joshalots]

Can you somehow do a podcast with famous atheists like Bill Nye, Penn Jillette, Richard Dawkins, etc..

[@KowboySantos]

thats a great start to admitting that we all dont know what the f is going to happen. i think we can all start there, and not have to follow outdated mythology

[@debbietampasheher3682]

Title for July show with your ex radio boss suggestion ' Nothing New Under The Sun: Faith is Faith"

[@gino14]

If such a trivial matter pisses you off, perhaps it's time to look inward and realize... You've likely got some problems.

[@angels2online]

I am not blaiming any side for this specificly, but family is so much more important than this arguing. I wish it all ended, for the kids's sake.

[@Medibro]

I don't see anybody here presuming that believers in gods don't think. I'm willing to defend the position that there are definitions of god that we can know do NOT exist. (For example, gods which are omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent simultaneously.) Know refers to knowledge and knowledge is a subset of belief which can be demonstrated to be so. If you can't show it, you don't know it. I reject the notion that you know god personally or that your heart is where he abides.

[@peterrivera8964]

Whiteflag if you know God and have a personal relationship with him what does he look like? What does he sound like? If he's been around 2000 years and wants us to with him why hasn't he revealed himself to everyone?

[@zeruaeno1275]

Yep, that's been my point in life. If 'GOD' is so powerful, and all knowing,and such as the religious put it. It would not hurt them to come down off their lofty throne to reveal them self to us physically and allow science to measure them and such lol.Yet this GOD never did anything to actually prove their own existence.

[@mattox21]

I'm in this situation too. Damn you Joseph Smith...

[@dyinteriors]

I am still not out with my mother and step father. I am gay and when I came out to my mother many years ago she cut me off for years. I have been an Atheist for about 1 1/2 years and I know how agree she will become when she finds out. She is a Bible fundamentalist. She spearheaded a religious attack to support prop 8 in California. And she knew I was gay and with my now husband some 18 years. I just can not go there with her as I suppose it will be the last I ever hear from her.

[@MyPisceanNature]

I am sure you could create a new account to like it again, if you really wanted ;).

[@TBFI_Botswana]

I am very much an atheist, always have been I guess. Living with a believer may be a tad easier than living with a shit lot of believers? I have however worked for so long in the Middle East and certain parts of Africa that lying about my lack of religiosity is pretty normal, so I don't know for sure. I call it, 'staying alive mode'.

[@KowboySantos]

morality comes form having empathy in my opinion, not because the only reason for me not to go on a killing spree, or if i am insane TO go on a killing spree, is a book, a manual for the bronze age

[@Squelch133]

Dax is being most brave. Good luck to him and his partner.

[@AndrewBrownK]

great podcast!

[@TheJiminiflix]

Jesus said a lot of controversial statements to truly test peoples hearts and their faith, such as "unless to drink my blood and eat my flesh, you have no life in you" John6:53. On the outside this is grotesque but He was refer to a deeper truth of the importance of His atonement He made for us. We remember this with communion, the bread and the wine SYMBOLIZE His atonement, His shed life for us so we may live. He tested people because He want those that trust Him and do not look back.

[@andrewklein8922]

I agree with your opinion, that he needs to let it go, but dude. It just ain't that easy.

[@Wykesidefruitmachine]

Open ended forum. Otherwise, you would have sent a PM, surely?

[@IntrepidStranger]

With regard to the children, a positive compromise is the Unitarian Universalist Church. It's an open-minded environment for children to decide their own path. I will confess though that most of the UUers I grew up with ended up as atheists... or pagans.

[@Acediar]

Parents who do that either die a biggot or live long enough to see themselves become an actual parent

[@greenjelly01]

how about this for a title for the apologetics show: "There is a God, but it is not the God that you don't believe in."

[@digitalblasphemy1100]

the difference between what? what are you talking about? why are you mad at me?

[@EarlFaulk]

Really then why did u respond to my original comment in the first place

[@saxmanchiro]

You are correct. It doesn't always work, at that moment, but you have planted the seed of possible cognitive exercise. The theist might go off and maybe think about it more and realize how dissonant they are. Many theists compartmentalize their beliefs in a little 'box' within their brains, not allowing them to question, out of fear instilled by dogmatic threats of damnation, hellfire, etc.

[@TwistedTruffles]

I love you for this comment

[@THESocialJusticeWarrior]

I am an atheist but on this one I have to go with Jesus: You don't want to be unequally yoked.