10 Levels of Fog Openers: Part 1

[@brancaleone8895]

instructions unclear, i base skip in the early game now i have megatank in turn 10

[@kams2520]

I base skip Twice and get two artillery with early captures beat that

[@inversepie6512]

Im sad. These 5 levels were stuff you've already covered in great depth. I wanted the FORBIDDEN KNOWLEDGE. I shall watch part 2 as soon as possible

[@Baladucci]

43:48 AYO THAT'S ME

[@mauwus4322]

Can't wait for next video where concepts like infantry routing and delegating which bases are responsible for which cities, especially when vehicle timings start disrupting how much infantry each base can build during the capture phase. There was an old interview between fddcsjxk and Walker discussing, among other things, this exact concept for those interested in seeking out more about it.

[@mooxonsofi]

Incredibly cool video series. Thanks so much for teaching us these secrets! Even though I have figured out many of these AWBW strategies so far on my own, your explanations and logic bring a huge amount of insight that is greatly appreciated.

[@TheFinalChapters]

All these also apply to standard and high funds. Level 3 especially, as your opponent can see if you rush a tank or recon and respond accordingly. Probably the one that applies least is level 4, as it's much harder to punish transport openers in fog.

[@rph7643]

Great video production and analysis! Thanks for putting these out!

[@aa01blue38]

Very interesting to see fog openers being completely different from standard in a lot of cases

[@robdogracing]

Can’t wait for part 2 Thanks!

[@Alexand3ry]

16:10 - this might be in part 2, but I think there is value to recons beyond harassing. Sometimes "watching your opponent capture cities" while also checking whether vehicles are deployed on your side or not can give you valuable intel in its own right that helps direct your own deployment. Similary 18:13

[@Elagatua]

this is absolutely gonna get covered in detail in part 2

[@DeejusProductions]

Don't reveal all the secret grandmaster tricks!!

[@swagmaster2003]

Starflash going for a way to aggressive capture? Sure, should've seen that coming. But Humita? I'm disappointed. Btw you're not doing this for free, I'm sure you get a nice 2 dollars from KZbin every month. Totally worth it.

[@IceExtract]

I am top 10 fog after watching this, 10/10 video.

[@BoorishM]

Aggressive openers like the 'day 3 recon' is akin to capturing the com tower early (when there is no engagements), there is an opportunity cost which usually is getting more infantry out to speed up captures. If the recon doesnt get anything done then its just like capturing the comtower on day 3 (or whatever early day it is).

[@Alexand3ry]

I thought from the title (and past experience) that this would be video 1 of 10... 😂

[@StarFlash250]

yooooooooo we made it to top5

[@gentlemansquarrel190]

It’s funny you mention the overextending cities thing as a flaw of even high level players cus Advance noob went super agro in cap game against me and I said “oh I guess that’s what the top level players do” and started doing it myself. I have had success with it, but I’m also not mangsing the infantry out there either

[@inversepie6512]

Also, Elagatua, you've seen the 'half an A press' vidoe by panenkoek, right? LITERALLY the best video in KZbin history, and I think you'd enjoy it

[@Elagatua]

@@inversepie6512 yep, i have pretty deep roots in the speedrunning community, i remember watching siglemic chase 1:44 back in the day

[@inversepie6512]

@Elagatua haha fantastic!

[@williamroberts2878]

Can't seem to get the replay viewer to work, I can find the games but I can't download them.

[@greyw0lv]

rule 6, mega tank opener is really strong in standard fog.

[@mwb5211]

One of my games made a KZbin video!

[@David-vk5sv]

Are there any maps where anti meta openings are viable? Weird ones like infantry only until a neo or something like that

[@Elagatua]

yeah, i actually had planned on an anti-meta opening on Settles V3 (SC3 R4) but my opponent timed out. i think infantry into neotank is a bit too crazy though, having all your power invested into one unit makes you very vulnerable to attacks in all the places where the neotank isn't

[@David-vk5sv]

@@Elagatua so maybe something like early medium tanks with a CO that has an attack bonus?

[@Elagatua]

@@David-vk5sv you probably wouldn't want more than 1 medium tank, but the issue with medium tanks is they generally don't 1 shot tanks, so if my opponent gets hit by one, they will just go "huh, nice MD tank" and run to the other side of the map