TUBE AMP vs PLUGIN! LABOGA Mr.Hector!

[@KohleAudioKult]

What do you prefer? Tube Amp or Amp Sim?

[@CrushingAxes]

Oh man, I love tube amps, but ampsims are really helpful! I guess they both work, it depends. But If I have to choose it would be Amp.

[@kalpunga6105]

We prefer a brunetti plugin. Nevertheless your presets sound very nice

[@Lenias7]

I really like the Neural DSP Nameless Suite for low tuned djenty stuff and the Soldano SLO100 for metal.

[@RyvenProductions]

As much as I love amp sims, tube amps will always be on top. I just prefer hardware, much more inspiring. But at the end of the day, it's all about getting the tone you want. Amp sim or tube amp doesn't matter.

[@SamBrockmann]

Amp sim all the way.

[@HaydenMcCarry]

As soon as you started playing the real amp i knew straight away! so much fuller and rich sounding! What an amazing amp!

[@youngmike8645]

I love my Mr. Hector. I’m from the USA 🇺🇸 and I remember seeing one in the background of a behemoth making of album. Never heard of them before and this is about 11 years ago. This is before Laboga had a reverb store. These were next to impossible to find here and I would search local classifieds eBay, you name it. Then about 4 years ago I found 2 for sale at a guitar store about 3 hours from me. MAde the drive and bought 1 of the two they had for sale. Wish I could have bought both but could only afford 1. Louis Torres bought the other one. The guy that worked at the shop, his dad was friends with the late Adam Laboga and the amps were given to him but since he and his son aren’t brutal metal guys they had no use for them. About a year and a half ago I ordered a camouflage 2x12 and what a killer setup. Killer amps. Glad to see them getting more recognition. Proud owner of one here and it might just be the flavor you are looking for.

[@Vincentpadrutt]

Thanks for the awesome tip with the second mode and turning the treble knob all the way up! Sounds awesome!

[@newamerikangospel]

4:53 That microphonic tube. I wonder if the plugin will simulate this after years of use?

[@teriakamoto]

I have mr.hector mk lV is sitting next to me on the shelf. I can load my Kohl IR's and sound groovy baby. IR's man. IR's. Your IR's are quite nice. The Mr. Hector is great Amp for Rhythm and Riffs. Fun Demo. Tune up my friend lol.

[@FrankiorMusic]

Heck dammit, Kohle! You make my bank account nervous with every second video of yours... guess I'll get the plugin now 🤣 But to be fair... Aurora DSP just creates killer stuff. The Mammoth gets way more use on my end than the Neural DSP Darkglass that I also have 🤘

[@KohleAudioKult]

For a reason, haha! 🤘

[@Dysomniah]

Damn your IR makes it miles better !

[@periclesgomes_]

Awesome tone man!!

[@cmd_f5]

Been hoping for a plugin version of the Laboga ever since I heard one. Awesome!!! Plenty of usable tones in this thing for sure. Cheers 🍻

[@MatthiasBuesing]

STL Tones has it in Amphub too…

[@cmd_f5]

@@MatthiasBuesing Ah. Didn't know that, not a fan of the STL stuff honestly. Part of it is I already have so many sims. Also kinda pissed this is Ilock based. Oh well.

[@CrushingAxes]

Man this intro riff was killer! Awesome tone !!!

[@tisbonus]

Love your channel my brutha! You're a true playa!

[@leidusleidus7190]

@Kohlekeller Studio Isn't the Labooga Mr. Hector the sound of Katatonia?

[@KohleAudioKult]

At least they used it live. I gotta ask Jens what he used on those Katatonia albums back then!

[@sheriewart8100]

Great video, love your tone’s

[@cerebralcoma4850]

That Bass makes the guitar sound great

[@spyware1100]

You should try OttoAudio's '11 11 11 11" plugin. I'm not affiliate of it by any means, but compared to this plugin, or even neural dsp stuff, it holds it's own. It doesn't emulate any particular amp, it has tons of voicings, and just "goes to eleven" :)

[@spectre5022]

Agree!

[@KiwiExpressCream]

Yeah, 11 11 11 11 is amazing, every preset is killer. I like this one a lot too, but the cab section is a bit underwhelming (apart from Kristian's IR which is awesome as always) which is a shame for a $49 plugin. Will need to think long and hard about this before putting my money down on this.

[@KohleAudioKult]

Yeah, I gotta try it! I have heard very mixed reviews though. But then again, I don’t care what people say anyway, haha! 🤘🤪

[@RobHobsonProducer]

Oh maaaaaaan! LOVE Laboga.

[@parkkingery9216]

I have a laboga mr hector on order. Can't wait

[@MarvelJAM]

Sold. Thank you

[@DavePowell666]

Yeah I rarely like the stock cabs in amp sims. Or at least I always end up coming back to my favourite IRs. That mix seems to really bring it to life. Looking forward to trying it, sounds like it will pair well with Mammoth bass! And I probably gotta try blending with the Grindstein of course!😁

[@naicametal]

Best IR's always :D

[@faronhemlock]

That Fernandez is 😍😍😍 👌🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Mister_Jahn]

Amazing what is available now, love the vocal qualities (just more evil).... golden age for music production gear but you help people hear, which is what is really needed to stand out. Keep thinking about my old 4 track in the 80's and what we have got now.

[@Wh33lsofFortune]

I would really really like to see you get a Peavey ultra plus 120 on this channel. I use one with a boost, and in B standard. The bare knuckle warpigs help but the amps are super tight and very percussive. Please please look into getting one on the channel. They're from the late 90's, early 2000's. Thanks 🙏

[@miked5487]

I'd love to find one of those! Great amp! The Peavey Supreme 160 was good too.

[@brucemorgan94]

They are very sick, got one in my living room.

[@Wh33lsofFortune]

@@brucemorgan94 ohhh yeah they are

[@Jstall7543]

So Good So Heavy So Dope!

[@davel_ggw]

Sounds cool, so I grabbed it for the hell of it. Where can I find the actual IR file itself, outside of the program I mean? I see it get selected when I pick your presets, but I it was not immediately obvious where the actual IR file is. Or, is it meant to be embedded in the program only? Thanks!

[@KohleAudioKult]

I think so!

[@TheDeedeeFiles]

Sounds awesome brother

[@mareklorenc4458]

That plugin is crazy! So accurate!

[@SilentScreamsStudios]

Hello Sir, will there be an update to this release because there are some bugs when switching presets. They at times will not switch to the chosen preset. Thanks

[@LykaonMetalMusic]

Aurora DSP is just killing it! They have awesome stuff!

[@KohleAudioKult]

Agree! Mammoth and Rhino both kick ass too!

[@DB-Studio1]

Sounds cool

[@MetalBastards666]

kristian - well done - i like it!

[@Mikesosa75]

Nice Amp sim. Why you use Cubase? Just curious?

[@KohleAudioKult]

Because I'm German? Haha, no! I have been on Cubase since the Atari days and I still believe it's a great DAW for both audio and midi.

[@Mikesosa75]

@@KohleAudioKult Thanks for the response! I`m using Reaper and I had use Protools (I`m not a pro just do things in my house) Every DAW is good in my opinion now

[@firdeye2681]

sounds real good.

[@Sleeep1]

Nice tone, I hear that will be monster in low tunning.

[@KohleAudioKult]

I’m pretty sure about that! 🤘

[@Mister_Jahn]

Yes to the disco chugga chugga lighting effects... I've been planning that for when I do final mixes. I know there are led kits... Probably better to just use a sensor mic off the monitors otherwise a plugin will be required for earphones

[@KohleAudioKult]

Haha! I don’t have the time for this, but it would kick ass for sure! 👹👌❤️

[@olfox1694]

The problem I have with amp sims is the spatial inconsistency, and I am speaking only about the high gain metal ones...when mono center, most of the sims do an amazing job, but pan it left or right and for some reason they lose the punch and/or definition...double track it (L+R) you get back the punch but huge amounts of fizz appear, escpecially when listening on smaller speakers...eqing guitars leads to lack of fullness and makes guitars sound dull

[@leidusleidus7190]

Also, missed opportunity to pair it with the Grindstein in thjs

[@KohleAudioKult]

Not really the topic of this video, but yeah, that’s something I just try!

[@marcpeiron_studio]

Do you sell the IRs separately somewhere?

[@KohleAudioKult]

Of course. There are two packs. Have a look into the video description

[@HronisArva]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@maximumguitarage]

great video regarding Amps vs sims! Could you do a video of the wizard MCii or MTL compared to the other amps in your studio ? Really helpful in deciding what amp is best for you.

[@MantusRietBaalberith]

Hi Christian! Ich hatte hier noch ein altes Digitech Death Metal herum liegen und finde es (als Preamp) eigentlich ziemlich gut, aber ich habe Probleme, einen guten, modernen Sound damit zu finden. Hättest du Laune, da mal ein Video dazu zu machen? Würde mir bestimmt ganz schön weiterhelfen! Cheers

[@firmans12]

Awesome video kohle. The thing with this amp / amp sim It's sounds good in the mix but sounds like transistor amp on its own idk why lol

[@rickygonsalves905]

Uh for some reason I keep getting an error 28 unable to connect to the server when I launch the app standalone and vst3 versions. Kind of disappointed

[@UncleBensRice]

Der Mr Hector ist im Grunde ein gemodeter Rectifier im Modern Mode. Die Vorstufe wurde allerdings an einigen Stellen abgeändert und geht bei manchen Werten eher in Richtung Marshall. Die Endstufe läuft wie ein Rectifier ohne Gegenkopplung, nur gibt es weniger Höhenbremsen und auch kein Presence. Der Mittenshift wirkt direkt auf die Klangreglung. Durch den Schalter wandert der Midscoop von 500Hz hoch auf 800Hz und die Mitten werden deutlich weniger abgesenkt. Ein Rectifier liegt hier eher bei 460 Hz.

[@KohleAudioKult]

Das ist zwar die Inspiration, aber die Amps klingen echt total anders. Vor allem klingt die Endstufe gar nicht so hell wie der Modern Recto.

[@UncleBensRice]

@@KohleAudioKult Das kann gut sein. Ich kenne den Laboga nur über KZbin. Es werden in der Vorstufe an einigen Stellen deutlich die Höhen beschnitten. Im Rectifier passiert dies teils nicht, oder weniger stark. Im Grunde gibt es auch nen Presence, aber der ist fix und wirkt nur in den höheren Frequenzen.

[@cajun3197]

Serious ear candy!!!

[@stevewelsh8560]

5:45 ''it doesnt sound bad''....................... oh it really does.

[@felinekaiju4517]

Great vid as always!. Being in Australia, we know how you feel about the Mesa pricing. 😂. I found an awesome speaker too!. The Eminence Pete Anderson Hempdog. This thing such a great versatile speaker (also can't find any ir's for it). I'm using for Doom, Death Metal and prog. I'll be pairing it with a DV-77 when they arrive in the country. I think it'll be worth your time to check out.

[@KohleAudioKult]

Interesting! Have you heard how it sounds under the mic?

[@felinekaiju4517]

@@KohleAudioKult I've not heard how the Hempdog sound for metal under a Mic, all the reviews are for blues, jazz and some rock-like stuff.

[@felinekaiju4517]

@@KohleAudioKult I'm currently saving for some mics so I can do some vids on the speaker. I tried looking into creating IR's but it seems quite complicated.

[@bigchocolate8547]

Great video my man. Is it to much for me to ask you for your measurements height from the low E and high E for both EMG pickups on your Fernandes Ravelle with the spalted maple top? I have the same guitar and never played emg pickups before. Will really appreciate it thanks so much.

[@felinekaiju4517]

Why not use a ruler to measure the cavity height?.

[@bigchocolate8547]

@@felinekaiju4517 I'm not familiar with active pickups measurements.

[@felinekaiju4517]

@@bigchocolate8547 All the measurements should be on the EMG site for the pickups. Unless there's something I"m missing?.

[@felinekaiju4517]

@@bigchocolate8547 There's two height measurements for the Humbuckers. 10mm for Fender size and 19mm for Gibson size.

[@bigchocolate8547]

@@felinekaiju4517 there's no measurement at all. It says to put them as close to the strings as possible. I have and not so good sounding. That's why I was asking Kristian cuz he has the same exact guitar as I do plus the man knows a bit about great sound and tone.

[@RiffSaver]

LOve IT!

[@seventhlevelsound]

Would have been nice to hear it through some more of your IRs. Cuz I generally really like the Reaper for this kind of super aggressive tone, but it seems like maybe their capture wasn't so great...

[@rinok9662]

It says that the archive is damaged or something, what a shame

[@shredward666]

I currently own a VHT Pittbull 100CL. To my ears it’s the best high gain amp I’ve owned (out of a dozen over the last decade) How would the Mr. Hector stack up against VHT in your experience? Thanks 🤘

[@KohleAudioKult]

The Pittbull is a very different beast. It sounds more dry and thinner than the Laboga. I like them both!

[@shredward666]

@@KohleAudioKult love the dryness of the Pittbull, I like to keep it slightly lubed up by running a very slight delay on at all times. Incredible tone

[@aaronwest1259]

having latency issues with this one. my others are fine. fave is nueral gojira sim. any suggestions? wish i would of tested first...

[@AuroraDSP]

Aaron send us some details. Do you expierence latency with standalone or vst? macOS, Windows? Plugin was tested even on the cheapest audio interfaces available on the market right now. If there is a problem with specific configuration we will figure it out.

[@crabbubbles1161]

I have a computer running a Linux based OS. Will this be as simple to work with that? I ain't rich so I can't afford much.

[@miserypath]

Yes, it's a cool plugin but I still like to work with real amps and am about to buy another one in a few weeks. I use plugins just for lead tones because it's easier to match the tone with the fx this way (at least for me).

[@necroticpoison]

I think it's probably just listening with eyes, but I think the real amp is a bit more dynamic. Maybe there is some truth to amp sims being "colder" in that the notes feel like they're a similar velocity, and dynamics are more macro than micro. The real amp in this scenario sounds like each note is a bit different, while amp sims in general kinda sound dynamically flat and only feel like they change in mostly loudness and only across large differences. Still prefer amp sims though. 1/500th the price, you can do it at anytime, anywhere and in post, plus no tubes to worry about and you can't annoy people that are around with it. Not to say there isn't some magic to real amps.

[@PASHKULI]

all rebrands of LePou

[@SilentScreamsStudios]

How is this one different from the STL Amphub Mr. Hector?

[@KohleAudioKult]

This one is the official version! That’s the difference.

[@SilentScreamsStudios]

@@KohleAudioKult I got ya totally understand. It does sound pretty nice.

[@SilentScreamsStudios]

@@KohleAudioKult you always crack me up you know that but I am laughing bc now when I talk about STL, that one will be the unofficial version.

[@AuroraDSP]

STL ver is based on older rev and it’s missing TUBE / DIODE mode which is essential in this amp

[@SilentScreamsStudios]

@@AuroraDSP thank you for the answer. Very interesting and knowing myself, I must get it.

[@whatskraken3886]

You can make your "disco chugga-chugga effects" with Philips Hue light bulbs! Check them out!

[@KohleAudioKult]

🤘🤩❤️

[@georgezorbas9036]

To have a successful plugin everything should be perfect.. even effects and cabs. If I am not wrong I think from what I heard the pedals (tubescreamer etc) need more work! Also I hope the dials (treble - bass - mid) work as they should. Lastly I dont like so much the gui. It isn't as practical as in neural dsp.

[@spectre5022]

Using the archetype nolly pedals and is night and day with laboga, but that's supposed to be a complete suite, sad because the ampsim sounds great, but as I said in another comment, having trouble with some pedals like reverb, I seems to eat the sound of the amp, and doesnt "expand" the sound. Same with the screamer pedal, doesn't sound good to me, but again, the amp is great.

[@AuroraDSP]

Hector sounds much better using boosters than TS, we almost dropped the overdrive pedal. First patch will include some improvements in reverb and TS. We’re improving our plugins as long their are on market. Join our aurora dsp forum on facebook. Every suggestion matters to us.

[@georgezorbas6422]

@@AuroraDSP I love your approach and the respond. So I will give you my thoughs if they can hep you because we need companies to make better plugins. - So 1st of all check how nice and clean sound the delay and reverbs of Neural. Especially the delay sounds to both my monitors and not in the center. I would like that too..stereo sounding delay (like ping pong) and artificial free. -2nd It would be awesome to know if there is oversampling internal or not. ( like izotope plugins) 3rd. The gui doesn't help that much - an amp - cab like gui would be clear and preferable .. BUT... I love these color themes that you have - reminds me the Cubase and I love it - bravo - 4rd - I hope the dials are responsive (bass-treble-mid etc) and not adding artificial flavor!! - Lastly not much companies have achieved or perfected the overdrives - boost (etc - pedals) We need that.. I wish I would help you with all that!!

[@NeZversSounds]

It sounds like a wah pedal is in front of it the whole time.

[@DadoSimicStudiostriver]

Real deal have darker tone, and brighter on air frequencies at the same time, where plugins sound more tighter, muffled and honky. That is how every plugin sounds compare to real deal most of times. But i guess that can bi fixed with post equing, maybe.

[@SilentScreamsStudios]

Also the clean presets are way too low volume

the shit sound scratch didn't line up with the word😂

sounds awesome though

[@kimseniorb]

The amp sounds so much better

[@AlbertodeVictoria]

Now your rig is Héctor Fernández XD XD (Joke only for spanish speakers)

[@LoveItDirtyOffroad]

I wanna sound like that but my guitar chops are in the toilet 😢

[@chrisfinster1346]

Nothing against Aurora but I just dont dig the sound of Mr.Hector. I'll try the demo still tho n maybe have a diff opinion.

[@KohleAudioKult]

Fair enough! Not every amp is for everyone!

[@NikoFrederiko.]

King of high-gain simps

[@Sphereal]

Been testing the plugin since yesterday and I am not convinced. It sounds "plastic"? The response is also kind of unnatural. Amplitube reacts better and sounds more realistic.

[@mixnmstrng]

The interface is similar like a neutral DSP =)

[@KohleAudioKult]

Yes, that’s seems to be the standard these days.

[@AuroraDSP]

Rhino has no amp related interface. We want to please more conservative users with this new series of plugins.

[@Gamma7194]

i thought the difference was quite noticeable. the amp sim has this whiney midrange that makes the distortion way less pleasant than the real amp. i wanted to like it because the intro price is good but this is not convincing unfortunately

[@rafa83fs]

Tem pessoas que são contra plugin mas, se você mostrar a música essas pessoas não sabem dizer ao certo se é plugin ou amp.

[@DouglasMelchiades]

Concordo, vários plugins com timbres bem fiéis aos amps reais, ainda mais na mix!!

[@Vincentpadrutt]

Dracula strikes again!

[@KohleAudioKult]

👹🤪🤘

[@nidhoggvomwalde2280]

Did hear the hector for the first time, buyed two, two caimans and the cabinets. Engl was a disaster, marshall... It's marshall..., ampeg lee jackson awesome but like gold dust and hiwatt to expensive to gear up a whole band. Laboga isn't only awesome sound, it is quality and build like an anvil. And for me it's only 200km to Breslau where laboga is located.

[@Lenias7]

I'm sorry, but I can't say that I liked either the plug-in or the real amp. Sure it's a matter of taste, but I'm not a fan. Reminds me a little bit of my first Peavey transistor practice amp lol.

[@patrickbarge9872]

Definitiv Tube Amp. Liegt aber daran, das ich mich überhaupt nicht mit Computer auskenne:)

[@davidmusicstuff4979]

First, nice video. plugins are gonna put amps to rest.

[@KohleAudioKult]

For a lot of people that has already happened! For me it's not only a question of sound, it's a question of workflow. Plugins are faster (which can be good), amps are more inspiring (which is good).

[@lfgtonesandsounds1057]

doubt your perspective will age well....just look at history, it tends to repeat itself...but if you are not self aware you will never see it, such is life

[@Tt-nt1iu]

People in Germany don't use Hughes and Kettner?!?@?@ Ive been using an HK Puretone with an HK Tubefactor (channel two) to push it. Host of cabs but been using an Avatar 212 with V30's for the last 7 years. .... Germans aren't on the Hughes and Kettner train???

[@KohleAudioKult]

For some reason HK never really made it in the German metal world. I totally agree I should check out their high gain stuff!

[@Tt-nt1iu]

@@KohleAudioKult Interesting. I just assumed Engl and HK were the defacto amps on the German metal scene. Well the Puretone head is an amazing pedal platform. Not very brutal on its own since it just a clean channel but it can be made brutal. Then you can just turn the pedals off and have what almost every metal guitar player doesn't have .... that amazing clean sound.

[@Tt-nt1iu]

@@DerSilvano That's fair. You Germans got great beer and metal amps. You're doing it right. The US has got great metal amps and beer as well BUT Germany has something a little extra special in my lowly opinion.

[@roberteismann1929]

The plugin sounds like your amp minus all the nice tones of your amp. Plugins all have the same kinda scratchy overtones going on. That is of course only my opinion and means jack to anyone else.

[@KohleAudioKult]

I think that overtone thing is a myth! Just listen to the comparison in this video!

[@robertoverbeek9193]

The problem is that playing through sims really effects ones actual playing abilities...you can believe you really got your muteing down but in fact you suck when you move to a real amp. Sims have a quality of noise cancelling not enjoyed on real amps and it will really discourage you when you hear your true playing and how bad you really are at muteing....nope sims are good to use but NOT a true reflection of your skills

[@KohleAudioKult]

I truly believe that’s a myth. I have been using both with countless guitarists in the studio for ages and really can’t find any proof for that.

[@trevorphilips9484]

That's kinda bollocks. I've used both for years and I've never had that.

[@gabormata6029]

Baiahdünamik 🤣🤣 so german

[@KohleAudioKult]

I love showing the world how German company names are actually being pronounced 🤘🤪

[@gabormata6029]

@@KohleAudioKult loved it though 🤟

[@MatthiasBuesing]

Kinda disappointed tbh. Neural DSP is galaxies ahead to my ears...

[@Sleeep1]

Because? Neural had Laboga sim in plugin?

[@MatthiasBuesing]

@@Sleeep1 I’m pretty sure you know what I mean 😉

[@Sleeep1]

@@MatthiasBuesing sorry but for me Neural had great plugins but on some case its great marketing more that great products (like QC) . This plugin its sim from very specific amp (you may not like this characteristic) . And work great for me. To compare I have FM3 with a lot of great amps sim and this plugin do job well. Laboga its great for low tunning.

[@MatthiasBuesing]

@@Sleeep1 Yeah they are kinda hyped. But I really think they have something magic in their code 🤷🏻‍♂️ Had the Mr. hector myself a few years ago and was enthusiastic that a official plugin is about to be released. Unfortunately the sound disappointed me…

[@youngmike8645]

I have the real amp and 2x12 in front of me and play it daily and this plug in doesn’t do this amp any favors. Disappointing in my opinion.