Tuning Drone Rates (How To FPV 2020) Part 3

[@ChrisRiley3D-Everything]

Wow ! Mr Steel flying my tracks. Thank you sir ! Love your style of flying & you played a big part in getting me into this hobby. Hope you have tried all my new tracks cause i have some very unique tracks that i have put a lot of heart and soul into making for the Velocidrone community. Have a great day sir !

[@docmatt31765]

It's nice to get recognition after a lot of hard work. Good job bud!

[@ChrisRiley3D-Everything]

@@docmatt31765 thanks.

[@harsimarsaggu9152]

Man you are a legend... I've been flying from a few years and gone through a lot of videos but no one every explained it the way you do. Really appreciate your effort and time. I hope in near future I get a chance to fly with you...

[@NoHope_]

dude i am so thankful for this series, when i first started looking into getting into this hobby the first video that came up was a guy being very monotone and kind of shitty about getting into this, never mentioned a sim, blurted out the number $1300 within the first few minutes as if that would be the cheapest starting point, and just came across as gatekeeper ish. I appreciate this a lot because you show you don't need a professional drone immediately just to get a feel for the hobby

[@da9elb]

Dude you got me in to this hobby. Thank you for teaching it to me as well👍

[@MrSteeleFPV]

🙌

[@ielwa]

@@MrSteeleFPV You gonna ruin us all...

[@MantraAerials]

x2

[@Blackfootamputee]

Same here , when I saw the video titled "flying in the rain" I was blown away! Bought me a zmr250 and started building lol

[@propbender3301]

Ditto that. Since 2016.

[@middlegrey2]

(I'm new to FPV, only 1 hour on my quad). You rock Mr Steele, previously I did 50 hours in a sim and my controller felt like jello. No control, quad floated all over the place. Using your rates on the sim just works, can't wait to set this up on my quad and fly it.

[@seanharrison6285]

at the end of this tutorial series you should do a mini trick series where you start at beginner tricks and move up to your favorite advanced tricks.

[@RADERFPV]

That would be awesome!

[@creaturefpv]

I concur.

[@johnmcdonald751]

Finally someone taught me what I needed to know thanks man most youtubers in my opinion either go too deep explaining or not deep enough today you did exactly what I needed Thanks!

[@gee4zfpv]

Glad you mentioned the importance of camera angle- not enough mentors stress how much this impacts the pilot's flying experience.

[@MrSteeleFPV]

This is often something that is overlooked by a lot of people and it’s very important

[@0Ciju0]

I followed your rates, and holy moly, its x99999999 better than the default ESC settings my second hand drone had... I will be using this and fine tuning it further, thanks again!

[@kabthesax]

You know it's a Mr Steele video when you press like before even watching! Love the content man.

[@MachineManGabb]

2 years in the hobby and this video is still very useful

[@AndrewHughes71]

I’m building my first quad after seeing your videos three months ago. I’ll be coming back to your tutorials over and over again I’m sure. Thanks mate!

[@squirrel300zx]

I got into fpv when I saw the video of you flying line of sight. Then I picked my guitar back up when I saw a video of you covering Muse. Your videos inspire a lot of people and not only in this one hobby. I too love cars, 07 saturn sky with a ls3 swap. 86 olds cutlass with 632 ci nitrous big block. 2000 grandprix gtx with tons of mods. Keep being a total badass!!!!!!

[@fpvcruzer]

This video was so helpful in helping me dive into rates. Now after about 6 weeks I have finally gotten comfortable with adjusting rates to meet different flying needs - freestyle vs. flying indoors etc. I was finally able to do flips and rolls with greater confidence and skill. Thank you!

[@amareeberry670]

Thank you so much I was trying to fly my drone and crashed multiple times and trying to tune it. Out of all the videos I’ve watched yours has help me the most.

[@McDeslandes]

I’ve been flying for… 10 years maybe. Never been told I should find a “cg”. So obvious too 🤦‍♂️ My names Mr Steel, and you’re gonna learn something today

[@msky33]

Very helpful! I’ve been needing some education on this subject. Thank you brother! Keeping the video on just rates made this a lot easier to understand.

[@TheBuzzorca]

Ive been using stock rates for a year know on all my quads,just tried your rates and know my quad feels really easy to fly and smooth as butter,Thank you superman.

[@tlysett1008]

Steel, Thank you for doing everything you do for our hobby. Your a great ambassador for how to do things the right way. I got into flying quads using your previous series as a guide and it's severed me well to this day. I'm excited to see what the rest of this version has in store. A full on tuning section would be amazing.

[@mehdiahmed5842]

17:24 It doesn't matter if the quad is small or big, a 1000deg/sec will be the same for both, it is like saying 1000g of feather and 1000g of iron, which is heavier? :)

[@MrSteeleFPV]

You do realize different size motors and widths of frames, prop weights/sizes all effect the rotational speed…. If you ever tried this you’d realize 1000 is not 1000 on every quad. Please do a little real world testing before you make a “factual” statement like that mr feather 🪶

[@mehdiahmed5842]

@@MrSteeleFPV Quad response is something else, it is how fast the quad is going to reach 1000 deg/sec, at the end 1000 deg / sec will be the same for all (from Mr Feather :D )

[@merakifpv2500]

Thankyou Steele! Your videos are really appreciated man.

[@crisnmaryfam7344]

19:30 More invaluable info that most people would never consider having an effect on their tricks success. Muscle Memory is a powerful skill in Many sports and other things in life, Makes perfect sense that it would come into play here once you think about it.

[@mynameistooey]

these are the type of tutorials that set your channel apart i have purchased from your company Ethix and am a very happy customer i wish you could post a 3 to 5 minute video on the camera and lens selection that you use in this video it is spot on keep up the great work

[@robj_fpv1959]

Same here, you help into the fpv world , I thank you for all your help and the footage you done

[@JoeA12212]

Yo Steele, these videos you have been doing are really useful. I'm glad you have decided to make these. I'm looking forward to seeing more. Keep up the good work brotha.

[@thegeenwraith]

Love the explanation! Feel like I understand so much more after watching this channel. Excited to move out of cinema style drones to something a little more exciting

[@TBloodFPV]

thanx again steele. Im headed out to hit the sky LFG. best pilot / teacher in the game!

[@zwiftfpv6304]

thanks so much for this video. It is the best video i have found on this subject. You are the reason I am getting into fpv

[@johnnyblumberg]

Thank you so much! Your videos are so much better at explaining things! You're calm descriptions are easy to follow!

[@bobhoward3555]

Absolutely learned something, (I know that's not YOUR slogan 8-) ), and thanks for giving so much of your time to the community. I'm following your beginner series videos. Just awesome. This lessens my fear of messing with rates.

[@W00Dhouse.]

Finally I’m starting to understand these confusing numbers! Thank you!!! I vote for a PID video next 🤘

[@Mygordo2110]

Thanks a lot!! This really helped! Been Messi g with PID for a few days, but this IS definitely what’s making the difference

[@domonicdm3472]

Like the new series very informative. Normally fly around 1000 degrees but with dialing up the super rate not the RC rate and with no expo so more in touch with the quad, but having fun with your dialed up RC rates ( all indoor at the moment). Would really like to see you do a throttle control video and how to set up for best control ( non Kiss just regular Bestflight).

[@dazzdoodlzfpv1020]

This series is my new bible. Big thanx m8 legendary.

[@geordieboy77]

Just getting into FPV, watched your previous videos on how to fpv, many thanks for updating it.

[@MrSteeleFPV]

Yeah man thank you for watching with changing the technology there’s always room for improvement when teaching new things about new equipment

[@geordieboy77]

Mr Steele always about the learning, deep diving into my first little build of an iflight dc3 and the stuff you’re refreshing will help me no end. Much appreciated

[@geordieboy77]

After a little reflection could I make the DC3 into a lil bustard? Asking for a friend 😬

[@youareabarbarian]

Wow, I threw your rates on my quad (1st build) and holy shit I have a new quad that rocks now! It is a night and day difference from what it was. Thank you so much. This along with following your new gimbal vid and finally making those adjustments to my stock Q7 has made this hobby immensely more fun.

[@ls4life544]

Great video. I am new to FPV and flying my 3 inch or 2.5 inch quad was not as smooth as I thought. This will definitely help me understand what to adjust to have more control and better performance. Also I like the way you explain it using the simulation.

[@Happy_FPV]

Hell yeah brotatochip. You dumbed it down so us noobs can figure it out. I have an even greater understanding of rates now. Thanks!

[@goodrichcamp]

Really appreciate your time in putting this out...totally helpful. I followed your older series to get into fpv.

[@MrSteeleFPV]

Super awesome to hear that people are having success with my older videos I’m excited to put out this newer set up so that you can learn a little bit more especially with the changing times. I’ve also obviously learned a lot in the last couple years of how I can teach this stuff so it makes life a little easier and makes it better when I make videos about the situation

[@astrofpv6656]

man I really love how detailed your explanations are, so much useful information! I've definitely learned so much from watching your vids so thank you fr, hopefully you come to san jose again so we rip some packs!

[@Youtubeiscoolandgreat]

You got me into fpv, thank you

[@DominicanSheik]

take it from the master....Dude i saw you do that knife edge on a building's roof I think it was...I said...I want to fly drones!!! Thanks for the tips. I'm doing like 3 packs every other day, whatever time i can keep up the tutorials so we can rob you of your intellect LOL thanx again

[@wakkaflakkadown]

This part of flying has always been confusing to me. Thanks for this!! 🙏😀

[@nobody_unkn]

Hi Mr Steele, its good to see your still doing FPV Videos. Keep them coming :D

[@patellight9709]

Danial - Same As You , By seeing Him From Last 8 Months , Just Got in to That Hobby and Practicing On Simulator !

[@keltonifpv8504]

This video is such a help i have been flying for a year or more since watching you and this video is great to understanding rates thatnks so much!!

[@therealprince777]

Thanks for putting together a nice tutorial. Info is so scattered in this hobby.

[@allennickles3970]

As always awesome educational content! I been flying almost three years now since i watched your first video. And i learn some new things from this video myself.. thanks for taking your time to make these videos. They are priceless info when your first getting into fpv.

[@Karbonkage]

loving that your pumping out the content.... little kage has been loving it!!! thanks mate :)

[@AemonEdrisi]

Thanks for clear and practical explanation. really helped me

[@superdose4000]

It should be noted that rates aren't the same between betaflight, kiss and flight one. Velocidrone is using betaflight rates so if you fly a different platform on your real quad, you need to convert your rates.

[@Ener-FPV]

very important comment! i use this tool apocolipse.github.io/RotorPirates/

[@hrmny_]

@@Ener-FPV Is there something similar that isn't as slow? I don't understand why it needs to calculate it on a server

[@DroneShotFPV]

I always see a lot of people saying this, and maybe in certain extremes it makes a difference, but from YEARS of PERSONAL experience flying BetaFlight and KISS, I notice NO difference between using Rates in the 2, and when entering the number IDENTICALLY into BetaFlight and KISS, I get exactly the same DPS. YMMV of course. I do KNOW for a fact that yes, there is a "translation" difference, where there are some faster areas, i.e., mid stick to first 1/4 of the stick movement, but depending on rates used, the difference can be bigger or not as noticeable. For me, using 1168 dps for pitch and aileron, and 1000 for YAW, I don't see any difference from my KISS quads to BetaFlight. All my muscle memory results in the exact same maneuvers every time.

[@jeff.pitts.]

Im 2:24 in and already thanking you!

[@iandavis5329]

perfect!!! i just started with my new quad and wanted to tune it!!

[@halo198724]

I learn so much with you! Thank You so much!!!

[@mbg1899]

Thankyou so much for teaching me all of this.

[@brandonhess421]

Wow this is exactly what i was looking for.. This video is awesome... Thank you....

[@Higgie45]

I'm new and this explains what rates are thankx....I was confused about rates

[@BM-ku8fv]

Thank you so much. I love you. ❤️. You have taught me so much. I fly because of you man. Thank you

[@scubabert]

Dude, great video and explained so well! I followed your Build video and my quad came out amazing!!! Thanks!! Are you flying in New England anytime soon?

[@WillyFPV]

Thanks for the info. i am new at this. Beginning to understand,

[@SKIDOOSH]

Very cool explanations. I also tell people to "tune" the radio...as in spring tension and stick length.

[@MrSteeleFPV]

This is actually a very good point and I probably will get to that in more of an advanced video but for right now I’m his people are going to be OK with it set up the way it is from the factory. Setting up your radio to your specific liking is a very important thing but not everybody wants to open up a radio right when they get it and start tweaking on stuff

[@SKIDOOSH]

@@MrSteeleFPV Totally agree, I don't think anyone should open a radio on the first go! hahaha...I only mention it because I would like to see your perspective on doing it. (BTW you look so much happier these days bud! WTG!!)

[@josephstephens8276]

Your original how to FPV vids were what set me up right! Would love to see this series go from this to extremely advanced (i.e. that sharp motion when you change directions. it looks robotic and beautiful 😍)

[@gvngoheavy]

just sold me on velocidrone. thanks much

[@Oldman-Havok]

Thank you so much. This helps alot!!! Please keep them coming!

[@maplechill75]

@19:06 Excellent advice and well said

[@bernhard8540]

Love this little series :) ❤

[@johnflynn6140]

thanks, Steele just getting back into it after Canada killed off racing drones with our BS laws. I now have to stay under 250gram weight or get a 3000$ fine so looking to buy some stuff in the next couple of months ( after selling all my drone gear 2 years ago cause I couldn't fly them legally anymore in Canada ) Canada has basically tried to kill off drones period watched a guy get fined for flying a phantom without the proper license. so its indoors and micro 2' outside hopefully staying under 250grams. Thanks for all you have done for drones and the community Steele

[@buteoinspirations7543]

So helpful! I was struggling a bit in the sim but adjusted as you recommended and much better! Also great info for someone looking to get into FPV flying! Thank you!

[@ordinarylivv]

Wish you made this a week ago XD. Don't mess with your rates if you don't know what your doing yet, thanks steele this should help a lot!

[@emiliehlavova4465]

Thank you Mr Steel. I love this educational video. Now for first time I know what to do .😉👍

[@avasianfpv]

I’ve been looking into throttle expo. Do you run throttle expo? I’m just trying to find a way to get more resolution down low.

[@MrSteeleFPV]

No throttle expo is a crutch in my eyes. Learn good throttle management. And you’ll be a better pilot. Buttttt it also has to Do with the setup. I setup my drones to be very linear in power delivery. Light weight low pitch props. Not too much KV. And no throttle expo

[@avasianfpv]

@@MrSteeleFPV word, thanks boss. All I needed to hear:) time to fuckin rip then.

[@tanoenaczycaitin]

Thank you for this.. well explained Rates👍👍

[@jackbryan5851]

Yeah PIDs would be nice to see also

[@MonkeyFPV]

Braaahhh miss you man. Loving the beard

[@hanquah]

Love to see mr Steele fly true race drone, from race frame. Please make it happening sir.

[@Jokerman518]

Thanks for this amazing info. My eachine Novice 4 is easier to do acro than my flywoo nano baby and I couldn't figure out why till now. The Nano is really twitchy and sensitive so I will adjust the rates.

[@crisnmaryfam7344]

16:35 there no One way, because everyone is different and everyone is going to perceive and feel different about how its effecting the control of your quad/drone. This will change per person, and per drone. You may have some settings with one drone you swear you love and that are the end all beat all. Then you try them on a smaller/larger drone or one with different hardware, and then it feels Off or even uncontrollable. Having an understanding of what you are doing with the controls by adjusting these is invaluable info to new pilots.

[@Johow]

Great video! Thank you! But why wouldn't you want to change the rates in the TX? Is't it easier - for example - beeing out in the field and doing some little tweaks here and there by just dailing them into the radio? Thanks Steele.

[@GTARC_au]

Loved every minute. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. 🍷👊🍻✔👍

[@Nathan_FPVKau]

Thanks Mr steele, legend!. I learned alot, exactly what I need to practice. Happy days. Thanks again.

[@samdharma350]

Thank you Mr. Steele. This was very well done. I learned.

[@jamesonvparker]

Incredibly helpful video. Thank you. Subscribed.

[@carlharrison3637]

Afternoon Mr.S - from the UK

[@bento1132]

For anyone still possibly confused, for a short description, rates are similar to settings in a video game.

[@abnormallynormal8823]

How can I put my 2080 ti in my 5” to run ultra settings?

[@DeltaInsanity]

Just to clarify, rates are similar to "Sensitivity" settings in video games. Settings on its own is a very broad term.

[@bitvasconcelos2031]

lol i think you are confused. rates...are the maximum degree of acceleration the quad will take depending on your input. when MR steele was referring to the 666 degrees, what this meant was at full throttle, if the rate is set to 666 for roll, and you do a full throttle roll, the quad will try to match 666 degrees per second. And you can adjust these degrees per second setting for throttle, pitch, roll, and yaw. The "video game" as you called it, is a simulator, meaning its a program meant to simulate quad flying. Thus your explanation of rates are similar to settings in a video game is insanely incorrect and just a confused thought in general. The simulator attempts to mimic the same program that we use to configure the quad (betaflight), and thus to simulate the quad degree per second control on the videogame, its obvious its similar, thats the goal. but to say that as a short description for rates...its similar to a video game says absolutely nothing.

[@OVERKILLFPV]

Awesome video. I have more of a firm grasp on it. Thanks

[@criminalhaze1]

Love the videos man . Im currently waiting for my gear in shipping. Going digital for my first fpv experience and a smaller 3 inch quad . But ive been messing with my rates in my sim to try to see what I like. I think I finally found something I like but my degrees are way lower than yours.. more like 500 I think lol but I like the feel of it and I've got it so my end stick is real snappy and the middle is smoother.

[@dcsmith5839]

Thanks for posting.As you said in the first vid of this series,it's a bit of an update.Most of the tutorials have good info,bu they are a couple of years old.

[@peche1985]

Thanks so much! Love these Tutorial Videos!!

[@adampinkerton8091]

Very informative mate, this has been a very Grey area for me and this has made it a lot clearer. Cheers 🍻

[@sully4875]

Mr Steel your the Man so helpful thanks for doing this 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🔥please keep them coming

[@V1ZFN]

Great vid as always. Having run steele quads and running a variant of your pids/rates with great success, but id love to learn more on how you tune the pids... tuned in for a next episode.

[@jacksonfpv8576]

Waiting for my first drone in the mail. This is very helpful, thank you 🙏

[@ChrisAnsonPhotography]

Thanks for doing these videos. I'm new to FPV drones and I watched your 2018 version of these. In those videos, it seemed like you were recommending a more sensitive setup for learning and you also modified the Quad Settings. Are you recommending this less sensitive setup over those you recommended in the 2018 videos for starting out now? And will you be going into your 2020 Quad Settings as well?

[@mirko1998]

Please do a video on PIDs. Personally I think for someone who builds quads it is a very important tool to know how to tune a quad properly.

[@MrSteeleFPV]

Like I say in the video tuning the quad physically by getting a weight set up correctly and making sure your rates are set up with a way that you want them is going to ultimately make the quad a lot easier to tune when it comes to PIDs and I think a lot of people overlook this very important thing. But with that being said I am going to talk about the ideas and make a video specifically about tuning a quad

[@mirko1998]

@@MrSteeleFPV I was thinking more about getting rid of some oscillations that are caused by PID-Values that are slightly off after physically tuning the quad.

[@quadwings66]

Like so many others, you got me into this hobby. Thanks a bunch (I think 😅) and fpv love from France.

[@agraf85]

Your videos are just mindblowing! I practice with a TBS Vendetta in Velocidrone and have a new DJI FPV drone. Which rates do I have to setup in the DJI drone to get a similar feeling like in the sim?

[@chasewalker3924]

Thanks so much! Very well explained!!

[@chrisperkins2308]

Thank you so much for this man, helps so much. You explained it all very well

[@patrickdubois7692]

Thank you for the examples/explanation

[@wizardOfRobots]

Mr. Steele gives us the straight dope