This was tough! Seat Strip Down! | Rolls Royce Silver Spirit to extract ECU module. RR Rescue Ep.12

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@dDoOyYoOuUtTuUbBeE 4 ай бұрын

Seats are installed as units in the car, not in parts. Get the whole seat off its rails and out of the car and work on a workbench.

@markvincent5241 4 ай бұрын

Absolute patience of a saint, most people wouldn't have been able to speak without turning the air blue. Awesome stuff as usual.

@rickwilliams7049 Ай бұрын

“It’s like the Terminator “ Too funny😂

@life_on_cars Ай бұрын

@@rickwilliams7049 😁

@nsk143m 8 күн бұрын

Everything seems so ridiculously complicated on this car. Just discovered your channel and now bingewatching the Rolls playlist. Thanks for the vids!

@life_on_cars 8 күн бұрын

@@nsk143m thanks for watching!

@nomebear 4 ай бұрын

When I was your age, I had a fleet of cars that I enjoyed working one. Fortunately, two were new and required little attention. Whereas, the others were vintage Mercedes, and all the M-B were like needy, overindulged, high maintenance spouses. I appreciate all that you are going through to get the Rolls sorted out, and much appreciate your mos entertaining videos.

@skeelo69 4 ай бұрын

RR made sure there were no rattles inside the cabin 😊

@paulie-Gualtieri. 4 ай бұрын

That was a mission. Well done, I had a 1988 XJ40 3.6 Sovereign, and it was a nightmare trying to diagnose electrical issues and tracing cables and disconnecting aircraft grade connectors, according to Jaguar. Thankfully, nowadays all problems are well known and easier to understand.

@barneykennett9282 4 ай бұрын

Nice...👍. 23:25...😂😂.

@keithshayle7027 4 ай бұрын

Brilliant video! It looked like an exhausting frustrating job, and something not for anyone who's not brave. I would be to worried about not getting it all back together!

@seansabhaois 4 ай бұрын

That RR seat, is like something 'Q' would have put together for Bond... Seat? Ejector seat. 🙂👍

@EdsMiniEmpire 3 ай бұрын

Jeeez Louise that looks a faf!!

@richardgreene3460 4 ай бұрын

This was your BEST episode so far! Nothing but frustration! You were talking about the complexity of the wiring. I felt the same this week working on the power windows on my 1968 Fixed-Head Coupe! It had 12 wires going to the assembly (instead of two normally on other cars) just to make the glass move up/down! RIDICULOUS!

@skeelo69 4 ай бұрын

By now you have given the seat frame a damn good hoovering ☺

@life_on_cars 4 ай бұрын

@@skeelo69 😄

@philboyce1582 4 ай бұрын

You deserve a medal for getting that out.

@blackhorse841 4 ай бұрын

Wow what a task, great patience and really interesting episode

@johnparnell8571 4 ай бұрын

Very fiddly job, Paul, and well done for completing this task. Another valuable step forward and huge labour costs saved. I do wonder if the whole seat could have been removed as one unit for much easier access. There certainly seem to be large screws holding its rails to the floor and, heavy as it would certainly be, once out of the car, it could be turned upside down, revealing the ECU et al without the need for such extensive disassembly. Much depends on the order in which the interior would have been originally installed (the back seat cushion going in after the front seats, perhaps), but I am sure the front seats would have been fitted on the production line as completely assembled units and then connected up to the electrics. If any former RR assembly line workers have watched this video, maybe they would care to comment.

@fishandreptileinfo 3 ай бұрын

10/10 for patience. Hope you get it sorted.

@markwalsham7115 4 ай бұрын

That was a mission and a half - well done and looking forward to the next instalment!

@bradfordbarrettluckotheIrish 4 ай бұрын

What an effort! I’m sure some chap at Rolls-Royce is the tie strap installer. He might be a bit twisted😅

@Fatlad247 4 ай бұрын

That was one testing task , well done and just waiting for the follow up now 👍

@patwilkes4122 4 ай бұрын

Looking forward to part 2 to see if you can repair the ecu.

@LeeFradley 4 ай бұрын

Another great video. Wow you lost me 15 minutes ago lol. If that was me that seat would never work again.. looking forward to seeing you put it back together. Take care.

@JL-of3db 4 ай бұрын

I had to do the same for the passenger side. Took me half a day to get it out and a day to get it all back in! 😂

@melvinphillips786 4 ай бұрын

Next time, once you exposed the plugs get a power probe and drive the motors until you can get to all four bolts and lift the seat out in one.

@ram318yt 4 ай бұрын

I was lucky with mine (1997 Brooklands), the seat stopped working with the seat base raised up, so I could get to that connector and move the seat back and forth to get access to the screws that hold the rails down to the floor. Far easier to get access to everything with the seat out of the car.

@LarryBees 4 ай бұрын

Wow.do your head in job and cable tie heaven 'The Terminator 'haha.!! So far so good. We are looking forward to the next one.😃😃

@essexdavenorton 4 ай бұрын

well someone must have to patience of a saint that looks like a complete nightmare to take that a lot apart well rather you than me well done great British engineering over complicated what a mission

@royfellows5468 4 ай бұрын

Whenever i do this kind of work I take photos along the way, everything as it was etc. That way i can be sure that it all goes back the way it was. Best of luck with the ECU, there may not be anything obvious, In any event, you could be looking at a job for a specialist, or maybe a second hand ECU or whatever. I believe that the seat has memory for its settings, so its probably designed around one or several EEPROM (Electronically Erasable Program - Read Only Memory) which would be part of a low voltage circuit, typically 5V. Of course, you could know more than me about this stuff, one never knows. But compicated it is. Is this car running a CAN bus system? Like a diagnostics socket somewhere under the dash?

@Mr_G977 4 ай бұрын

I am an electronics engineer. The seat if it uses an EEPROM needs a constant power source to hold memory settings. There are two ways of supplying power while the main power i.e. the car is off. One is a small coin battery - which is not practical as the day comes when it needs to be replaced. The other way is to use a super capacitor. Small looking and easily confused with a coin cell battery. Super capacitors have polarity and thus must go in the right way around. However they are not very reliable components relative to other electronics. If they get fully discharged I.e. the car is not used for a very very long time, then when energised again the inrush current is at a maximum and can be enough to put a dead short on the capacitor by bridging the dielectric if the capacitor is weak. I would look for a super capacitor and if I found one would lift one end and put measure resistance. Powered with the capacitor out might be enough to give the memory sufficient voltage to function but of course any settings will not hold once power is removed.

@ram318yt 4 ай бұрын

@@Mr_G977 there's a NiMH rechargeable in the seat ECU, they last about 15 -20 years, less if the car is rarely used, and eventually they leak their electrolyte onto the circuit board, corroding away the fine tracks that run nearby, and forming conductive bridges between circuits. This can be dangerous, sometimes the functions of the seat and mirror (position of the mirror is stored in the driver's seat ECU) get cross-linked, and can cause the seat to move unpredictably.

@Mr_G977 4 ай бұрын

@@ram318yt Very helpful information for Paul. i did a bit of speculation in the hope that somebody with detailed knowledge of the car would pop up and put me straight - and they did. Let's hope a clean up of the ECU tracks if it was a leaking battery will do the job.

@royfellows5468 4 ай бұрын

@@ram318yt This is interesting. There is a round capacitor as you describe in the alarm/CDL ECU that I hacked to fit a modern Viper 350S in my Silver Seraph. These things are multi functional so there may be functionality in it of which I am unaware. Also, I have had the drivers door mirror move unexpectedly a couple of times while the car was parked. Interesting and useful input.

@hamishcruden7623 4 ай бұрын

Great video... would you have been able to put power from a small battery to the seat sires and have it move forward? Also, would it have been easier to unscrew the seat from the rails it is on and just take it out for access to the ECU?

@sebastianbob9831 4 ай бұрын

What a nightmare!!

@shaunmcnutt4436 4 ай бұрын

Just done one on Bentley Turbo R was very time consuming

@peterriggall8409 4 ай бұрын

Recently drove a Spirit at the Great British Car Journey, and guess what, drivers seat didn’t work. They had bypassed the works and put a switch on the front of the seat just so the seat could go back and forth but that is all it could do.

@ram318yt 4 ай бұрын

@@peterriggall8409on earlier cars, the harness to the switches had the same connector as the one to the motors, so if the memory module failed, you could connect the switches direct to the motors, but on later cars the wiring to the switches is far smaller, and can't handle the current of the motors, which is switched by a bunch of relays in the ECU.

@andrewf7822 4 ай бұрын

That looked fiendish.

@rogerreed905 4 ай бұрын

Ffs . . All that to make a seat move . . You can see why the japanese cars took over . . So much easier to work on . . Looking forward to the next one Ya mite have to put on an extention to the garage . Till next time take care. Bye from New Zealand 👍👋🇳🇿🍻twa

@life_on_cars 4 ай бұрын

👍 I'm wishing I had a barn for the cars 😄

@GarySimpson-zz1uq 4 ай бұрын

Good luck reinstalling, looks a nightmare.

@paulgeraghty1448 3 ай бұрын

What's happened to the rear bumper?

@life_on_cars 3 ай бұрын

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@GrandpaTig 3 ай бұрын

Maybe '1stUFF' or '1stURF' ? Not sure what is telling you!

@GrandpaTig 3 ай бұрын

And... what is written on the lefthand one? Is it '1stULF'...

@andrewcumming6319 4 ай бұрын

I think that Rolls Royce would benefit from Tesla packaging.

@inthelionsden6335 4 ай бұрын

This is what I would do. Remove that beautiful grill and mount it on the garage wall. Then call the auto dismantlers and have them tow the rest off to the junk yard. Maybe get a couple hundred for it. Well worth it.

@life_on_cars 4 ай бұрын

😅 I don't quit that easy 🇬🇧👌💪

@Mr_G977 4 ай бұрын

@@life_on_cars Keep going. It is a once in a lifetime chance to have such a beautiful drive. It could be a family treasure. Neighbours have a smart road worthy 1928 Humber that has been in their family for over 75 years. I don't quit either. It has taken me four weeks to find a hardware fault on a crashing Apple Mac Book laptop that a neighbour was going to take to e-waste. It now works and is in daily service. You learn so much along the way doing/attempting repairs. Who knows, one day you might have a specialist RR centre.

@life_on_cars 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for the support 😊@@Mr_G977

@SteveBall-z7j 4 ай бұрын

IF we don't keep these cars going our future generations will not forgive us........keep going ..... Well done this far marra......