Tunnel Vision .Part 3. Making a curved custom tunnel lining with plaster cloth and cardboard.

[@davidnichols213]

looking good creg

[@FishplateFilms]

Thanks David! Gregg:-)

[@geepop57]

One word WOW!

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank you Sir! Surprised even me! Cheers Gregg.

[@flyboy2610]

Those tunnels came out really nicely, Gregg!

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank you SIr! No one more surprised than me! Gregg.

[@andrewstevenson5449]

Looks brilliant on the train cam.

[@FishplateFilms]

Thanks Andrew! Better than I expected too. Cheers Gregg.

[@peterhall4086]

Thanks for making these videos, you have helped me with a curved tunnel problem I wasn't sure how to deal with. I enjoy your channel.

[@FishplateFilms]

You're welcome Peter! This was all an experiment but worked out better than expected . I'm glad you enjoy the channel and thanks for watching! Cheers Gregg.

[@alan1340]

You can always grab and derailments you don't have Greg with the tongs only the tongs lol ;) Love your work mate, you are inspirational.

[@FishplateFilms]

LOL...yes just the tongs! Thank you very much Alan and I'm glad you enjoy the videos. Gregg :-)

[@elsdp-4560]

THANK YOU...for sharing. It looks so real, nice job.

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank you Sir! Glad you like it and I appreciate the kind words. Gregg.

[@peavinedownunder8726]

The footage of inside the tunnel is absolutely awesome Greg, very inspiring.

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed it. Gregg.

[@1stArizonaSub]

Looks awesome Gregg

[@FishplateFilms]

Thanks John! Gregg:-)

[@normanrowe2831]

Hi, as soon as the camera went thru the portal, I thought, wow! That’s super realistic! Amazing job. Thanks. See ya next time.

[@FishplateFilms]

Thanks a lot Norman! Maybe some water leaks on the walls and I'll add some soot to the ceiling as well. Cheers Gregg.

[@davidmcclelland2661]

The tunnel innards look great, put ballast down and I'd think it could be real. Well done.

[@FishplateFilms]

Thanks DAvid , yes a lot more to be done before it's finished, but I'm happy so far. Cheers Gregg.

[@SouthBrooklynRR]

Great stuff. You really are good at this Art & Crafts thing. Enjoy this very much

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank you very much! I'm a harsh critic so it has to be at least average ..LOL. I am enjoying it a lot more than I thought! Cheers Gregg.

[@northislandstitcher577]

Hi Greg those tunnels look awesome 👍

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank you ! I'm pretty happy with them for a first try! Cheers Gregg. :-)

[@leonardhesch9768]

I really enjoy your videos.

[@FishplateFilms]

Thanks very much Leonard! I appreciate the support! Gregg.

[@rondobongodouglas1591]

Hi Gregg, nice job, looks the business, wasn't sure if cardboard would be strong enough to use but once the tunnel liner is in place it's just fine. Keep up the good work, happy modelling!

[@FishplateFilms]

Thanks DOuglas! It is quite strong and the portals make it even sturdier. It surprised me too..LOL Cheers Gregg.

[@TheDaf95xf]

Morning Gregg. Hope you ok 👍🏻 Too think it's made from some waste card and some plaster it looks absolutely fantastic 🙂 Well done and always a pleasure watching your tutorials 🤣 Take care until the next time cheers Stevie 😎🇬🇧

[@FishplateFilms]

Morning Stevie! Ikea boxes come in really handy ...maybe more than the contents..LOL. You could make the frame from ply if you needed more strength for scenery or whatever on top? Thanks for the kind words and I'm glad you enjoy the videos . Cheers Gregg.

[@chrisshoulders4066]

Looks awesome my friend, be safe.

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank you Chris! Same to you sir. Gregg.

[@arthurhouston3]

You are going replace the missing ties at the rail joiner in the middle of the tunnel. Now I know were the light in the tunnel comes from. Great job.

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank you Arthur! Yes, I will replace all the ties as I weather the rails. I feel there will be more rides through the tunnel in the future. All the best , Gregg.

[@peterbradford5987]

Great Video.

[@JoeG-firehousewhiskey]

That looks really good!! Awesome Job!

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@unfitforpurpose6422]

They came out really nice Greg and yes very prototypical and if you did happen to pop a wheel over the rail the walls are close enough to just pull the train back out by hand or just keep going through

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank you ! You could do that indeed , only a bit of scratching on the car if it was really stuck? Gregg :-)

[@peterglen734]

great stuff as usual

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank you Peter! Glad you enjoyed it. Lord Stan.

[@SeaboardCentral]

Great job on the tunnels Gregg. Looks pretty realistic to me Thanks for sharing your progress and techniques on the Birdwood Sub. Tim

[@FishplateFilms]

Thanks very much Tim! I'm sure you've been in the odd tight tunnel yourself?? Cheers Gregg.

[@SeaboardCentral]

FishplateFilms no tunnels on my district but there is a cool curved tunnel not to far from me in Chattanooga, TN on the Tennessee Valley RR Museum that was built before the Civil War. Been through it many times. Carved and blasted out of rock. If you make one of those, make sure you add some dripping water down the sides. :)

[@FishplateFilms]

@@SeaboardCentral Thats a shame..... CHattan.ooga is famous name ! I have thought about details I could put in the tunnels .like water and water stains? More skills to learn ..LOL Thanks again. Gregg.

[@PaulAFulcher]

Hi Gregg,another very informative video i look forward to seeing the finished tunnel on your layout...top marks to you !

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank you Paul. The small one will get some scenery in an upcoming video series. Cheers Gregg.

[@SFRATON]

Hi Gregg and yes t looks great. Your filming through the tunnel looks real and just like our ones here in NZ.Kevin

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank you Kevin! I've never seen a finished tunnel on any of the "Cab rides" I've seen, so I thought , why not! The spiral tunnels you have over there are cool, ..can't remember the name of the mountains? Cheers Gregg.

[@SFRATON]

The Raurimu spiral in central North Island, and great tunnels. Hope all ok were you are Gregg - take care

[@FishplateFilms]

@@SFRATON That's the one! I have seen it on a few tv shows, looks great as does much of NZ's scenery! Gregg.

[@SantaFeBob]

Wonderful work Gregg. This is very well done and the final result is outstanding. You make it look so easy. The video footage is so realistic. Thank you for sharing. And there are no derailments on the Birdwood Subdivision!

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank you Bob! It did turn out a lot better than I thought! When the track is ballasted it will look a lot better , but I'm happy so far! I appreciate the kind words sir. CHeers Gregg.

[@micksbackyardaquaponics1408]

That was amazing job you had dun there to that tunnel it looks great and it was good to see it there on your layout 👍👍

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank you Mick! Better than I thought to be honest?? Cheers Gregg.

[@Longshadowsmodeltrees]

It looks "Great" Gregg......looks like a Real tunnel, you are getting good at this scenery thing. Bob

[@FishplateFilms]

Thanks Bob! I also like how the sound changes as you go through and from the outside , the locos almost go silent ! Glad you liked it Sir! Cheers Gregg.

[@Longshadowsmodeltrees]

Yes.....that is Cool too.

[@35o125]

just made my curved tunnel using your suggestions...thanks!

[@FishplateFilms]

Great stuff! I hope it turned out ok and I'm glad you liked the video series! DO you have a video of it? Gregg :-)

[@35o125]

@@FishplateFilms it turned out pretty good, I'm happy with it. Problem will be to put the hill over it, as one section of the tunnel is very close to the back scene, which is screwed to the edge of the board. I don't want to glue the hill to the backdrop because I would need to unscrew it if I need to move my layout. Unfortunately I don't have a video. Maybe I could send you a photo somehow...

[@gibsonethirty2836]

G'Day Gregg. Nicely done matey, looks 'Real' impressive, I for one can't wait for the day when the cab ride goes from start to finish on the Sub. An idea maybe to think about, as a long term project, for that final day when the "Birdwood Sub Division" is complete, is a montage of a cab ride that as it progresses down the line, the layout changes as we watch from its humble beginnings to the completed master piece we all know it will become. Should make for one damn fine video! :D

[@FishplateFilms]

Thanks Gibs! I have done a few cab rides in the past, but to do one of the whole layout would be around 40 mins! I will do more as scenery progress's ...but I do have some long term plans in the future! Thanks for the kind words and I appreciate the support. Cheers Gregg.

[@ronaldmuessel6233]

Very good

[@FishplateFilms]

Thanks Ronald! Gregg :-)

[@aussiefrenchman-hobbytable9960]

Hi Greg great tunnel liner , way better than a bought one , just got on board a couple of days ago ,like what I see , I m wanting to build the Milwaukee Road line , slowly getting tracks and all the rest , just waiting for teenagers to move out lol so I have a room 😅😅😅 keep training

[@FishplateFilms]

Hi Marc, thanks for the comment and for watching! I hope you get some tips from the channel and that the teenagers moc=ve out soon..LOL. Cheers Gregg.

[@Nealeb1970]

Great work Gregg, they look very realistic. and why else do we have curved sticks in the backyard lol

[@FishplateFilms]

Thanks Neale!! LOL...Now a curved stick IS a good idea??? Gregg :-)

[@upsd402]

Wonderful, it looks so realistic. Can’t wait for the tunnel portals videos. That one of my projects for this summer. Hopefully it’s getting cooler down there. Summer is finally here. Cheers from Terry in Nebraska.

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank you Terry! I'm look ing at portals now to work out which ones to use? Cold nights now, was out doing turnout maintenance in 6 deg Cel last week , not Nebraska cold , but Brisbane cold..LOL. Glad you're warming up sir. Cheers Gregg.

[@gwrdriver1660]

Awesome job Greg, How about some lime stalagtights! Cheers Rich

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank You! Yes , you could go crazy with detailing the tunnel ...but maybe the local wildlife will do that for me..LOL Gregg :-)

[@39djscottie]

Very cool Greg, love the video ! Have you ever thought about using drywall mud? I have used it for roads, grade crossings, sidewalks and even foundations under some buildings. I've found it works well and gives you plenty of time to work with it and it's cheep and keeps well in it's container. Take care and cheers my friend . If you see Lord Stanley , wish him well for me won't you?

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank you ! I have used dry wall mud when carving rocks, but it is a bit smooth for the look I was after for the tunnel. It is good for rocks and I manly use it to make extensions or joins to rock moulds. I shall pas on your regards to Lord Stan. Cheers Gregg.

[@TheTrainFreak]

Gregg, Those tunnels look amazing. All you need left is to apply a small layer of Sculpt It and paint the plywood the same wash and ballast the track and you won't be able to tell its a model. I have a F7A dummy locomotive that I have installed a spy camera inside the cab where the engineer would sit. I'm curious to see how that would look going through your tunnels. - Jason

[@sparky107107]

well for an experiment I think it turned out really well. just have to keep in mind what kind of camera you are using, lol,

[@FishplateFilms]

Thanks Sparky ! If I replace the camera I used for this , then I will ! Cheers Gregg.

[@vsvnrg3263]

the spoon is a useful tool. my case of concreting and plastering tools contains a butter knife, a soda spoon (teaspoon with a long handle), desert spoon, tablespoon and a soup spoon. the soup spoon got used more than the other spoons. a squirty bottle can give you more time when the plaster starts going off. i'm sure you already know that trick.

[@68Jaguar420G]

It certainly does look pretty good for a gunite over blasted rock tunnel. I wouldn't worry too much about a derailment in either tunnel if you've taken care laying the track. Derailments tend to happen at switches or on poorly aligned rail joints so even curves are reasonably trouble free. And you can always get one of the mechanical extended handgrips to extend you reach into the tunnel if need be. I expect the real trick here is to ballast the track with sharp margins on the ballast edges so the tunnel liner can be lowered into place with a minimal gap between the liner walls and the ballast. . You can easily touch up the ballast for the first few inches inside the portal but after that it becomes more of a challenge. The lack of ballast became quite noticeable when you ran the camera train and surprisingly disconcerting considering how limited a normal view into the tunnel is!

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank you ! This was a trail and I will be ballasting before tunnels on the new layout! Cheers Gregg.

[@martensiersma3304]

A layer or two wax paper over the torch lens makes the light alot more realistic.

[@FishplateFilms]

Damn Martin...I tried some tissue but it was too thick! And I have baking paper upstairs..sooooo, I know what to use next time! Gregg :-)

[@leonardhesch9768]

Have you thought about cutting a sponge the same size as the tunnel, then put your final layer of stuff in the tunnel. Knock off the 90 degree angles of the sponge and either round them or make them about 45 degrees. Then just drag the sponge through the tunnel to give it a consistent finish.

[@robertlucas4739]

Great video tutorial. Btw, what brand and model video cam and mic do you use?

[@FishplateFilms]

Thanks Robert! The camera is a "Drift HD" and the Mic is a small lapel one. The main camera is a Sony HXR-NX3 and I use a Rode lav mic for voice audio. Cheers Gregg.

[@carolbage8300]

Living in Australia, is sticking your hand in a dirty great tunnel to retrieve a loco a bit dangerous? You never know what has caused the derailment. Bob

[@FishplateFilms]

Yes Bob, I'm always careful sticking my hand into a dark tunnel???? But this could very well become a home for something other than a train! Thanks for watching. Gregg.

[@jamestungatemodelreviews3921]

Greg can you help me. Or answer a guestion for me .why wont my athearn genisus loco move when i set the back emf below 225 . its a tsunami 2 new athearn release. It runs great but just want move below 225

[@FishplateFilms]

Hi James , you will have to set the start voltage a bit higher, CV2 . It will be set to 0, so try 1 or 2 and see how it goes , and also try CV 209 at about 80 _ 100. Cheers Gregg.

[@jamestungatemodelreviews3921]

@@FishplateFilms thanks kind sir I pretty much use all your settings on all my locos. So far so good.

[@joeoz5416]

Gregg I learned it is best to use a wet finger. Humm, I wet finger. Joeoz3751

[@ronaldmuessel6233]

You need an offset knife like a butter knife to do tunnel walls

[@ronaldmuessel6233]

Be careful of too much tunnel. It’s the trains we want to see

[@malcolmtucker8611]

Gregg I am going to model BNSF also initially between Henrietta Mo and Hardin Mo. I will not have any tunnels as previously mentioned but in expansion will have an opportunity to cross the Missouri. Are you on messenger?

[@FishplateFilms]

Hi Malcolm, I'm not with this channel. If you send me a DM, I can send you my email address. Cheers Gregg.

[@malcolmtucker8611]

FishplateFilms Gregg I do not seem to have direct messaging available on my KZbin so this is my public email that I am happy to disclose. [e-mail]

[@peterainsworth8466]

First comment! First view. First like.

[@peterainsworth8466]

Nope. Got beaten while I was typing.

[@FishplateFilms]

I'll say you were first Peter!! Thank you for watching. Cheers Gregg.

[@johnchesworth4371]

Great video Gregg. Impressive results. Was just rewatching your video on rail expansion and thought you might be interested in this: railway-news.com/db-expands-its-programme-to-paint-rails-white/ Can't imagine too many modellers following suit but you never know Keep safe john c

[@FishplateFilms]

Thanks John! I have actually watched this video and mentioned it to the track guys at work! It really does work , especially where there are lots of switches that are affected by rail expansion. Cheers Gregg.

[@1BCamden]

the ‘penny’ just dropped for me, why is Greg going to so much trouble for something you don’t see. Well the video footage says it all, of course you have to prototypically line the the tunnel if you are doing video running, and I for one dislike video footage of ‘unfinished’ sections below the layout proper. So well done, and of course the Birdwood Subdivision doesn’t have derailments!!

[@FishplateFilms]

Well, I've never seen a finished tunnel on any of the "Cab rides" I've seen, so it was an idea to carry the walls the full length? This is about as long as you would wan't to go , but I admit it's pretty cool to watch the video! And don't tell anyone , but the camera car got stuck a few times before I had the tunnel in the exact spot..LOL. Thanks for watching. Gregg.

[@1BCamden]

FishplateFilms, haha it is a big camera car !!

[@jimsmoter4510]

Looks great Gregg.

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank you JIm! Gregg :-)