The Hellcat of The 60’s Was Too Fast and Too Expensive😳| Forgotten Legends Ep.3

The 426 Hemi engine, also known as the Elephant, was a force to be reckoned with when it was introduced in 1964. This engine was initially developed for use in NASCAR racing, but it quickly gained popularity among muscle car enthusiasts when released in street trim. When paired with the E-body Chrysler chassis it was a force to be reckoned with.
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[@NicksGarage]

Thanks for including us in your video! Excellent content. 👍⭐️

[@brandonsimpson1617]

Thanks for not flagging 337’s channel…..

[@omegaseamaster1550]

@@brandonsimpson1617 Nick is way to classy to do that. I understand there are lesser Gear Heads out there :)

[@EricvZ1967]

@@omegaseamaster1550 And it's free advertising for Nick's channel.

[@duckworthlewisyo3826]

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[@camelsouttahere.]

A lot of non-car people don't, but I just love the pure excess of dodge, the massive engines and massive superchargers always make me excited

[@ccaamm1]

Those that "get it", get it. Those that don't, won't.

[@jackthorton10]

And to those that seek that drive… well… that’s history

[@KoffinKicker]

I think those people need to drive something fun. I only buy cars and motorcycles that are fun, and I forget the average person doesn't experience that until I'm doing repairs or rebuilds and borrow my wife's auto econobox. A lot of folks never experience a fun, powerful v8 coupled to a manual transmission with a limited slip rear end and an aggresive final drive ratio. They just don't know any better, and can't miss what they never experience to begin with.

[@goobner420]

I used to until they unveiled the EV... Now I kinda don't like dodge 💀

[@Khumin-cyder]

Same, it's one of the few companies that still make the child I'm in laugh...I mean child in me...FCUKKKK!

[@rockguitarist931]

Just imagine how crazy the horsepower race would've become if emissions regulations hadn't killed the over-head cam big blocks that a few divisions had in development.

[@gordocarbo]

Always wondered what an LS6 could have been with a better oval port head back then. I dont care what hp number some numb computerized car does, they have o character require 0 skill and really boring to drive after a couple wot runs

[@rockguitarist931]

@@gordocarbo Right? Some of those V8's were pretty stout by the early 70's, I had a worn out '73 Riviera for a while and even it's twilight years the bone-stock 455 was pretty quick.

[@gordocarbo]

@@rockguitarist931 Was a kid then but experienced the same. Torque...love it

[@R3AL-AIM]

As a young kid who grew up in a Hotrod family (mostly GM vehicles) the 426 Hemi was spoken as one of the best motors ever made. Lots of respect in the car scene for being the "LS" of its day. In the 60's and 70's, it was a tough choice to pick something over a proper Hemi if you had the money. My grandfather liked to stay faithful, but I only ever heard brand knocking out of good grace. We love anything with 8 cylinders and a good sound.

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

Not quite the LS of it's day, only because the LS is so compact. The LS is the SBC of our day. In some ways it's probably more fair to compare the Hemi with the 2JZ, they're both massive, somewhat heavy, race homologated engines with a reputation for making stupid amounts of power and a cult of fanboys who don't care about the arguments for building another engine instead of their beloved.

[@konnerkramer329]

Never heard anyone say the 426 was the best engine ever made... heard many times it was a big block with small block heads. The big block chevy was a better design in almost every way hence why it's been the engine of choice for drag cars, boats, road racing, street cars and much more. where the hemi died in the 60s.

[@R3AL-AIM]

@@konnerkramer329 we are talking early development and for it's time. The 454 BBC was good, but the 426 was just as stout, revved out easier, was generally lighter, ect. It was doing great work in NHRA and Nascar. Speaking of NHRA, they'd like to have a word with you on the use of Hemi's lol Edit: As well as most major teams in Monster Jam. It's still the choice of the drag cars man. I'm a GM guy myself. The 454 is simply cheaper now days and really always has been.

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

@@R3AL-AIM It's funny, the Chevy engine was absolutely crushing it in Can-Am, meanwhile the Hemi was practically non-existent, only the McKee Mk. 5 ran one afaik. According to the Engine Builder Magazine the trucks in Monster Jam use Chevy engines, not MOPAR. Meanwhile Ford's big block won at Le Mans but was never entirely dominant in drag, oval or road racing. Regardless, no one can deny how Hemis dominate drag racing. Although, you should look up the Arias Hemi. It's a hemi-headed Chevy big block. Nick Arias Jr. designed the heads. At least some of the time you hear reference to a hemi it might not be a MOPAR Hemi.

[@konnerkramer329]

@use-youtube I haven't seen a top fuel car with a hemi in it for about 40 years either what's your point🤣. Also the hemi does not "Rev out" anywhere near as well as a BBC. 40 CFM more of head flow through a smaller runner and valve is a huge difference. Also you could get the BBC with aluminum heads and the zl1 had an aluminum block too so not sure how you think the hemi is lighter?

[@gorageelsewhere1946]

The quality on these videos are always fantastic. Underrated Channel and I'm glad I found it.

[@337speed]

Much appreciated!

[@225Kristoph]

I wholeheartedly agree. Keep up the awesome work.

[@LiljamezZz]

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[@nullofthenull]

So fucking true

[@cole-racks3389]

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[@lance_the_avocado9492]

This is one of my favorite muscle cars ever. The 1970 Challenger R/T with the 426 Hemi was such an amazing car. Rated at 425 but they made more around an average of 475 stock. It’s also very well known because of the iconic street racer know as the Black Ghost, a 1970 Challenger R/T SE with the iconic 426, I suggest you watch the hagerty video on it, it’s very amazing.

[@thomasgreen1557]

Awesome car and story. The original owners son just sold the car at Mecum a coupe days ago.

[@carlosoruna7174]

Have you any idea how many of these where massaged in the day. There was a 66 belvedere in montreal in the 70s, steel rims, green. Dont race it in a straight line. Lol

[@maxsav007]

Theres literally footage of the black ghost in the video

[@kramnull8962]

The numbers are amazing, just to make them perform you needed to run a 4:11 or lower. So they weren't as great as they seem to run around with. They wanted to wind high, torque was there but more in the mid range. The 426 Hemi along with most others of the 60's were engines that would have really changed the world with a 6 speed. Many big blocks would have gotten really good gas mileage if they could have had a gear to actually let their bottom end shine at highway speeds. 3300 @ 80mph isn't so bad, but drop that to 1700rpm. A 440 would have been in heaven.

[@lance_the_avocado9492]

@@maxsav007 Good background audio, just didn’t hear any story about the black ghost and I wasn’t watching the vid at the time as I was driving ;)

[@ellisjackson3355]

Those 426s are probably the best sounding old school muscle v8 to me. I love seeing people enjoy chargers and challengers on the streets today

[@sheneedsyrruup]

I just saw your comment on " How to get the 2F2F Skyline sound" today, and in the same day im seeing this comment. I appreciate you explaining that sound.

[@ellisjackson3355]

@@sheneedsyrruup no problem bro as long as I'm helping. I've obsessed over that sound for decades lol

[@bigpapa5811]

In the original 1971 movie, the challenger had a 440. In the 97 TV movie it had a 426.

[@snowrocket]

Reports do vary on exactly how the movie cars in the 1971 movie were equipped. Everyone DOES agree that there were no Hemi Challengers used. The most consistent report says they had four 440 Magnum 4-speed cars and one 383 Magnum automatic car. Interestingly, early in the film, Kowalski tells his drug dealer friend, "it's hopped up to over 160 (MPH)". This would have been a big deal in 1971. Later in the film, the police he had out run forwarded their info to the next departments saying, "it may be supercharged". The first modern Challenger with a 6.4L normally aspirated engine goes over 160 MPH. The 707 HP Hellcat Challenger goes 195. Due to better aerodynamics, the 707 HP Dodge Charger goes 205 MPH.

[@joequillun7790]

It is a known fact that there wasn't any Hemis under the hood of any of Barry's cars. And the "supercharger" quote was all and only Hollywood. Still love the 4 speed noises from the movie.

[@snowrocket]

@@joequillun7790 Yes, while the police SAID they thought it MAY be supercharged, nothing in the soundtrack of sounds indicate anything other than a normally aspirated V8. I like the songs, music, and the car sounds of this movie immensely! This movie singularly made me a fan of the Dodge Challenger.

[@donjohnston4215]

@@snowrocket as usual these videos are somewhat entertaining but some things that are opinion are stated as fact, other things are just wrong but are very confidently stated as fact. Thinking something or being sure about something it’s not the same as something being true.

[@HiroNguy]

Thinking =/= feeling.

[@William-Bill-Munny]

This was never forgotten, at least not by me. After high school 1986 turbo cars and 4cyl imports were so popular I picked up a nimbers matching 1971 Plymouth GTX. I always wanted a hemi car but the 440ci with an air grabber hood at $1,500 made me a happy camper.

[@SZUSEast1]

Damn that's nice

[@AB-ou8ve]

No fair!

[@Nunya644]

This was amazingly done. I never knew the Nascar ban on "non-production" motors is basically what spawned the super muscle car Era. Really cool stuff. Companies were like "screw it, we're making these monsters available to the public then" haha

[@HARRYAZZHOLE]

Same goes if a car manufacturer wants to be in RALLY. They have to make several if not a couple hundred production models.

[@themetabaron8722]

and in turn, though a little off topic. Its believed to be one of the first "homologation" specials.

[@jonathanburkholder1805]

Yes that wasn't the only ban They banned the The Dodge Demon from drag strips because it was too fast.

[@velocity5918]

​@@jonathanburkholder1805I did not know that, what cid the legendary high reveing 340 or the Hemi version, Dart body cars were awesome, Swingers, Dusters cool and there were so many versions to order. I raced and streeted the 440 E-Body Dodges of 70-74 2 fours on a 6-71 on a well built 440 and King of the Street....until those little NOS injected Jap cars took over, great times.

[@alvarsdzenis4739]

NASCAR has always banned non production engines since day one, hence "stock"

[@shaikymandel7593]

It’s really nice to see the history behind these engines, cause when you own one, you have pride in its history and technology.

[@eddy0803]

If you've ever seen mustard videos, honestly these have just as good production quality, they're great.

[@Jueen_]

I love that channel

[@GeezCte]

Link?

[@Akash-wn8sh]

@@GeezCte youtube.com/@MustardChannel

[@volume311]

@@GeezCte youtube.com/@MustardChannel

[@Myiz1]

Nah fr

[@mre_nolasport5392]

You definitely need your own show. Each episode gets more and more captivating. If I can find a insurance company that wont murder my pockets I definitely want a hellcat.

[@rustyshaklferd1897]

Someone else chime in here, but having owned a 392 and r/t hemi charger the insurance company didn’t differentiate between them. I am pretty sure the same goes for the hellcat. It’s just a 4 door sedan as far as they’re concerned.

[@user-vd3pu3kx5b]

@@rustyshaklferd1897 Hellcats probably have a higher rate of being stolen and higher accident rate so insurance rates probably higher

[@scottiopizza7565]

Have a 5.7 charger, had a scat pack challenger, and had a hellcat challenger. Insurance was never the issue, as the 2 faster units were not everyday drivers.

[@talkingmango8658]

@@scottiopizza7565 how old were you?

[@scottiopizza7565]

@@talkingmango8658 I was 58 when I bought the Charger and the Scatpack, 2 days apart. 1 year later bought the Hellcat. I do have a good driving record, well, after I hit 30:)

[@rjc3343]

Dude, you are a true gear head. Please don't stop these videos, you are keeping our culture alive bro!!!!!!

[@raymondpetrovits2336]

Props to the Chrysler engineers who developed the prototype fighter plane engine with the first hemi. The translation to their muscle car era is legendary.

[@codyhatch4607]

The first engine with a hemispherical head was 1901. Harley's have had hemi heads forever. Today's hemis are hemi only in their name and valve arrangement, they are more wedge in design than a real "hemi" shape

[@raymondpetrovits2336]

@@codyhatch4607 I am fortunate enough to have both examples of the hemi configuration. A 1967 Plymouth GTX with the Hemi engine and a 1998 Harley Davidson. I know it’s not the 1900’s engine by any means but still an interesting fact you brought to the discussion.

[@codyhatch4607]

@@raymondpetrovits2336 Still have that 67 GTX? Nice car. But the only reason hemi's flow well are the valves open into the cylinders without being shrouded by the cylinder wall. But an LS/LT with 12' valve angles and near vertical intake runners will make much more power without a super charger because they don't need that 90' turn. I have built many hemis (never an elephant, I wish) and but for the vale angles they are not the most efficient engines out there, and if you look at the hell fire engine combustion chambers, it is Hemi in name only.

[@raymondpetrovits2336]

@@codyhatch4607 I walk by both my GTX and Harley every day. Both are garage queens. The GTX is stock and only comes out for local car shows. I have been offered stupid money for it but remains my touch stone to my past. I’m retired and just enjoy showing it to newer generations and answering their questions. Thanks for the interest in my car and keep building those Hemi’s.

[@raymondpetrovits2336]

@@codyhatch4607 I walk by both my GTX and Harley every day. Both are garage queens. The GTX is stock and only comes out for local car shows. I have been offered stupid money for it but remains my touch stone to my past. I’m retired and just enjoy showing it to newer generations and answering their questions. Thanks for the interest in my car and keep building those Hemi’s.

[@edwinthomas618]

Your voice is Epic! Makes me feel I was actually in the design room, assembly plant, the dealer and the customer that drove/bought these cars you describe.

[@337speed]

What other muscle cars would you like to see?

[@aestheticswim3397]

Mercury cougar eliminator

[@MLK_Sold_Black_america_out]

Buick GSX

[@joshreynolds729]

Boss 429, Pontiac gto, chevelle, 69 camaro. Honestly you can’t go wrong I’ll watch it. Everything you put out is gold anyways 👍.

[@lance_the_avocado9492]

67 Shelby GT350 and GT500’s

[@Bozar069]

How about muscle trucks?

[@LICobra]

The original Vanishing Point movie released in 1971 had a 440 magnum 4 speed. The 1997 Vanishing Point made for TV movie had a 426 Hemi 4 speed.

[@RogerDuckman]

This feels like a TV show with the quality in these videos. Please never stop making these.

[@stevansaunders18]

Top notch as usual!! Great narration and content! Thank you! My dad bought a used 1956 300 in the late 50’s early 60’s and told stories of the 331 hemi. It was one of his favorites. 5 thousand pounds monster power and 4 wheel drum brackes😂.

[@albertgaspar627]

in a flat area with little traffic, the drum brake is adequate enough...the first time :)

[@TheCatOfAges]

5k? Closer to 3400 probably

[@ryanhodges7101]

@Albert Very true. I have owned several vintage vehicles with 4 wheel drum brakes. Drove them daily. The problem with drum brakes is excessive heat which causes brake fade. As long as a person thinks ahead and doesn’t do several panic stops in a row they work exceptionally well. That is the reason they are still used on over the road trucks.

[@albertgaspar627]

@@ryanhodges7101 personally, i find most people operate a vehicle the same way they run their lives--some people look "down the road" literally and figuratively to see what's ahead in their near future, and make plans now for what to do then. Other focus only on what's going to happen immediately, and they often run from one problem into the next one and then the one that follows. A drum brake uses far more surface area, nearly 350 degrees worth, while the disc brake is grabbing only a percentage of the rotor. but it will cool faster (however, someone sitting on the brake pedal will likely not release the caliper, so that part of the rotor may cool at a slower rate and lead to warping of the disc)

[@ryanhodges7101]

@Albert Very good observation. I always plan ahead when driving. Especially in vintage vehicles. Most people don’t seem to realize what can happen if you don’t. I was driving down the interstate a couple days ago following a car that was having trouble staying in its own lane. When I passed the vehicle the driver had both hands on the top portion of the steering wheel texting with both thumbs. My God it pissed me off. 4,000 pounds traveling at 65 mph is a deadly weapon. Especially if there is a stupid clown behind the wheel.

[@jasmille67]

Not even a Mopar guy, saw the add and clicked and enjoyed the history lesson.

[@RichardinNC1]

Well done! The '70 Challenger always has been my favorite muscle car, ever since sitting in a brand new one in a showroom. One of these days I'll own one :) One tidbit missing is discussing the '68 Hemi Dart and Barracuda where Mopar stuffed a race Hemi into a significantly lightened A body. Factory sold, semi street legal (but technically race only) it was the forerunner to the modern day Demon. It would do 10 second 1/4s out the door and most got them into the 8s, holding SS/AA records for decades. It's worth a whole video itself.

[@hemihead001]

But you had to be a Chrysler sponsored Racer to buy one . People have weird ideas about Hemis back in the day . They were expensive , they were rare even back then . They were expensive and a Pain in the ass to maintain . They weren't like new injected computerized cars of today . You just didn't get in them , start them up and go . Sometimes you didn't get them to start .

[@RichardinNC1]

@@hemihead001 good points. Although all cars back then often needed weekend maintenance for plugs, points, carb tuning, etc. Many Mopars had cold start issues.

[@bigyike]

BROOOOO, idk how you always put out videos that are not only professionally edited and organized but include such interesting and thought provoking content!

[@mach5jeep]

You mean like the footage of a T/A Challenger that was supposed to be a Hemi? LOL

[@Stag_Stopa]

I just rewatched the clip and a similar story came to my mind: the birth of the E60 AMG (W124). The 500E already was a big story (assembled at Porsche's Stuttgart facility), but by adding a mere 'technology package' (957 AMG-engineering package) at your local dealer you got the biggest baddest sleeper at the time being. A magazine said something like: 'How you can spend money worth a family house on a car without your neighbours even noticing cause they gonna think you just bought an ordinary Taxi' xD

[@hoost3056]

Only have one correction. The Vanishing Point Challengers were R/T's with 440 Magnums and 4 speeds with one 383/auto as a backup. The remake used a Hemi car.

[@jacobclayson2372]

Old muscle car engines hit me so hard with their distinct character

[@ajwinstead451]

Reading the title I though this was going to be about the Hemi Dart. It ran 9-10s from the factory in 1968 lol. Love your videos. Keep it up!

[@SolamenteVees]

My initial thought too, but they built so few of them... and they weren't remotely friendly as street cars.

[@jjboy500]

9-10 seconds in the 60s😂😂😂what the actual fuck

[@midnight347]

No production car ran anywhere near those times stock (in the 60s). The fastest big block muscle cars when stock ran maybe low to mid 13s around 105-110 max i.e. slower than most of today's muscle cars. Now with tweaks they could get much faster but still they didn't get out of the 13s and don't say it was because of the little tires the trap speed tells the story.

[@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195]

@@midnight347 A handful of Hemi powered Dodge Darts and Plymouth Barracudas were modified to accept the 426 Hemi engine each year from 67 to 69 so as to make them legal for use in NHRA Super Stock class racing. The rules stated the car had to be road legal including mufflers so that's how they were delivered although the 69 cars were more completely finished than the 67 cars. They were more than capable of running 10.30's in the 60's and many were competitively raced in Super Stock all through the 70's, 80's and 90's. As technology improved, particularly the tires, the cars times lowered and many are capable of very low 9's as a result. They were not street cars sold from the dealer show room but they were factory built road legal cars. About 80 Darts and 90 Barracudas were built from 67 to 69.

[@SolamenteVees]

@@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195 These cars were built in 1968. (about 50 Darts and 50 Barracudas) These cars are now running in SS/AH in the low 8s at 160+

[@bobhill3941]

One of the best, most concise videos I've seen in a long time. I never knew of the hemi's WW2 roots, information on the internals, or the scat packages before. Amazing video, amazing information.

[@Anthony12valve440RB]

The 426 hemi is so popular that for people who don’t know NHRA used the 426 hemi for top fuel dragsters that make over 10k HP til this day and still will dominant the track.

[@KDMFrost]

this is exactly why i love classic muscle cars whithout any of this in the past we wouldn't have what we have today

[@michaelbenardo5695]

And without the performance models of the 50s, - Chrysler 300, DeSoto Advanturer, Dodge D500 package, original Plymouth Fury, and Pontiacs and Oldsmobiles with Tri-Power, there would not have been the Classic Muscle Cars of the 60s.

[@KDMFrost]

@@michaelbenardo5695 and what makes me sad about this is that people nowadays see it as junk

[@easygoing2479]

What people today don't realize is that through the 50's, 60's, and up to about '70, all of those wonderful muscle car engines put out all that horsepower with the basic technology of a common lawnmower. Carburetors, points, and spark. Basic cast iron blocks and heads, just like you'd see on an old Briggs and Stratton. Even the vaunted 426 Hemi, which the Chrysler shop manuals described as their most _complex_ engine, was just a big fancy lawnmower engine with weird cylinder heads.

[@michaelbenardo5695]

@@KDMFrost It enrages me, that pro-Jap attitude. By the late 90s, cars from the 60s and older had become a very rare sight in active junk yards, but in the last few years, there has been an uptick in the number of collectible cars being scrapped - cars like 47 Kaiser, 51 Kaiser that was rust-free, early 60s "bullet" T-Birds. I have a feeling that the radical environmentalists are deliberately buying these cars for the sole purpose of junking them, so that they will not get restored, nor will they provide parts for others still on the road. What do you think?

[@michaelbenardo5695]

@@easygoing2479 And they could be rebuilt over and over and over again. Today's are made to be disposed of, not rebuilt.

[@ErectkyleDysfunction]

It's amazing how 30 grand was able to get you 10 cars in the 60s era.

[@stevenbrown6720]

You could buy a h ouse for 13 grand

[@juaggloj1990]

& me wishing to buy a new 426 for under 1k....XD

[@howabouthetruth2157]

No mention of the 392 Chrysler Hemi? Don Garlits was running the 392 Hemi's before the 426, with great success at the drag strip.

[@majestical5331]

331’s and 354’s too..

[@aurorajones8481]

Dude, your vids are spot on. Keep doing what your doing cause your hitting the spot.

[@themetabaron8722]

Love your videos. They are full of genuine connections and detail. No made up sensationalized fluff. There is a reason your channel has grown so quickly, its a refreshing take. Honestly I'd be into some longer format deep dive videos.

[@threeballedtomcat9380]

I will never forget the first time I saw a 1970 Challenger with the 426 option. I had a 1969 GTO with a 455 Ram Air and a 4 spd trans and that 1970 Challenger basically blew me off the road.......I never caught him to ask any questions, LMAO !

[@muznick]

You should get an extra thumbs up for the P-47 clip.

[@rodmandealerman3297]

Fantastic video. I've been a Mopar nut ever since meeting my friend Bruce back in the mid-70's. The hemi was always a mythical beast that we wanted to own one day. My closest to obtaining it was a '76 Feather Duster. 🤣 As for the 1971 film, I was VERY happy to know that a '67 Camaro was used at the end. 👍👍😁

[@romainlavoie1526]

Top Top Notch . The stories behind the 426 is stuff of legends . Mainly "" The' Black Ghost '''' The legendary 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T SE owned by the mythological Detroit Police Officer Godfrey Qualls marked history among sports car enthusiast . There is no doubt that Officer Qualls had equal skills of any Nascar drivers of the time. This will be forever remembered .

[@SolamenteVees]

Kowalski's Challenger in Vanishing Point was a 440 4-speed car... love your content!

[@kirkthejerkthe1st]

I caught that mistake too.

[@nickpanaritis4122]

You are correct. In the original film by '''FOX'''

[@steelpenguin1]

Excellent video man! I’ve been a fan of Mopar my whole life. Hell my first car was a little Dodge Dart Swinger with a 318 that my dad had a little work done on it. My best friends dad had multiple Super Bees, a Super Bird, 71 six barrel Cuda, and more. He taught me everything mopar when I was a kid. Now I have a 18 R/T Shaker. It maybe getting a stable mate soon. Anyways I was paying close attention to your video and you made zero errors. Nice history piece you did here. Keep it up!

[@Forged4x4]

This is one of the best breakdowns I've seen on the Hellcat. Thoroughly entertaining. Great work.

[@alexander1485]

since I hate rap and don't involve myself in the culture, i don't watch rap videos lol

[@Sam-ls6sl]

I’m just blown away by how powerful these cars were for the time. Even by todays standards they are stout, they were like demon 170’s back then. I grew up in a ford household but like other comments say, the hemi was always respected and spoken of highly. Great video

[@applejuice9468]

Because it was race developed and was expensive as shit lol thats why

[@albundy5992]

Spot on delivery of these intricate videos. Keep it up!

[@15DEAN1995]

it really is incredible that these 60s muscle cars were putting out over 500hp naturally aspirated. the first naturally aspirated american car i can think of which did that after the early 70s, was the c6 chevy corvette zo6 35 years later.

[@johnsimpson5406]

Dude, I don't know how old you are but your statement indicates that you don't know much about American cars from this period, as compared to the automobiles of today, let alone history. The automobiles of that time had horsepower ratings that were THEORETICAL, based upon an engineering mathematical formula based on the cubic inches, and a number of other components, and NOT on actual dynamometer witnessed readings, with accessories. These ratings in the manufacturers catalogs, and marketing materials are S.A.E. GROSS THEORETICAL HORSEPOWER AT THE FLYWHEEL!!!!! In fact due to insurance industry power to weight surcharge formulas, and governmental safety concerns, the manufacturers purposely underrated the horsepower rating figures!!!!! In the mid-70s the industry went to a S.A.E. NET HORSEPOWER RATING SYSTEM, WHICH IS similar to the European 🇪🇺 DIN Systems, or British BRAKE HORSEPOWER RATING SYSTEMS. The system that the Society of Automotive Engineers (S.A.E.) instituted does measure actual horsepower at the wheel/tire. This coupled with emissions, safety equipment, and fuel ⛽ efficiency requirements due to the 1973 oil 🛢 embargo by O.P.E.C. as a result of Western support of Israel 🇮🇱 in the Yom Kippur war, created an era of lower horsepower ratings, for decades. 😔 Today this is the system that we still use. It took decades until we had developed technology to increase performance, and meet fuel ⛽ economy, and emissions standards. Again based upon your comment, your lack of knowledge, and ignorance is showing. May I suggest that you go to a library, and get some books 📚, and get educated, so that you don't make an ass of yourself. If you are lazy use the internet, however, if you do, you never know if you are going to get someone who is knowledgeable, and a member of the intellectually elite, as I am, or some dumb schmuck, who knows little to nothing. Good luck 👍. 👍

[@15DEAN1995]

@@johnsimpson5406 This comment was written exactly like a keyboard warrior from 2010 it gave me a good laugh

[@montanaplease]

Sorry dude but 500hp in 1960’s translates to maybe 260 to day if that. Combine that with crappy suspension and heavy cars and they are weak to todays standards.

[@MasterSluggyKornNuts]

Muscle cars and hot rods were the family cars in my family. Its crazy to look back and realize that we didn't start wearing seatbelts in my household until 1986. Because we rebelled against it when they started passing it in 84 and finally 85.

[@jonathancantrell8631]

The quality of the intro, the voice and delivery got this channel a instant like 👍

[@mattjacomos2795]

9:30 The car featured in the film is a 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T, with a 440 cubic-inch V-8, and not a 426 Hemi V-8 (as is often believed). Eight white Challengers loaned from the Chrysler Corporation were used during the filming.

[@openroad6522]

And it was a 69 camaro that hit the caterpillars

[@karlepaul6632]

@@openroad6522 It was a '67

[@toddaulner5393]

Imagine if they had a 10 speed auto with dual clutches! That would have been nuts!

[@DONTCALLMETHAT]

The details and narration alone make me glad I found this channel

[@smflatt]

My cousin had a '70 Challenger. It dominated the entire area. No other muscle car around could take it. I believe, at that time, it was the most complex automotive engine ever made. It was an insane powerhouse!

[@boudewijnb]

It's still an OHV V8 engine, it's not that complex.

[@smflatt]

@@boudewijnb Overhaul a '70s era Hemi and get back with me. I hate it when people comment that don't have a clue what they're talking about.

[@boudewijnb]

@@smflatt please tell me what about a hemi is more complex, compared to other ohv v8 engines, since I apparently don't know what I'm talking about

[@scotmandel6699]

@@smflatt different doesn't equate to complex simpleton

[@nullofthenull]

You have such a skill for these videos it's unreal

[@brrbrr474]

This channel brings out the nerdy side of me and cars. I appreciate the effort you put into your videos.Thank you.

[@337speed]

Glad to hear it!

[@scottbryant7377]

I was originally gonna be on your ass cause during the start of the video you were showing the 70' E-body platform, while dialogue was discussing the "Hellcat" of the 60's. But, after watching the whole clip, I'm gonna say you redeemed yourself, lol. I was actually impressed with the style, and structure of your content, surprisingly satisfied with the contextual accuracy, and now a subscriber. Keep up the good work, quality stuff you're putting down here!! 👍

[@rondail5675]

Very good review. Now I remember why I use to be a Mopar guy. I had a 225-Slant6, a 273, 318's, 383's, and a 440.

[@nickpanaritis4122]

I have had hemis and Challengers and a hellcat all my life. Still do. The birth of the Chrysler Hemi engine. Great video and I loved it. Thank you. Nick from ''Nick's Garage''

[@easygoing2479]

He 'da _man._

[@nepzski]

I dont like hellcats but everytime i hear one i have to look 😂

[@AidoDrives]

amazing video. underrated channel. I've been a fan of the 426 hemi since I was in 4th or 5th grade and as I learn more about the engine, the more I like it. It's been my dream to own one of these a challenger hemi since I was a kid and I hope some day I can own one and drive it like it was intended.

[@fs5866]

This is not forgotten, it has been present in so many video games

[@speedsterautowerks1222]

Damn imagine having a 600 hp 1971 challenger 426 scat pack from the factory with all the goodies and no one even knowing what it is… that must’ve been magical back then, before the internet

[@Sherman62]

Yeah, no one knew anything about cars before the internet and video games. Jacked up big-block musclecars prowled the streets as common as Hyundais do now but no one talked about it. lol. You might say that the "internet" of the day was the plethora or car magazines sold in every grocery store or newsstand. Even Popular Mechanics road tested Hemi musclecars.

[@orlandomoreno5326]

@@Sherman62 Magazines were the biggest deal, even through the 2000s. I remember the Mini trucking Magazines

[@albertgaspar627]

that was only if you had a mechanic who could keep it in tune :) every gas station had a mechanic rather than a convenience store, and the quality was about the same. back then, too, the lower range of muscle cars were far more common if you weren't cooped up in the big city. You were more likely to come across a 383 Mopar in a Road Runner than the Hemi--or a 396 over a 454. some of the big league cars were not known if you didn't read the magazines--it was possible to walk into a small town Chevy dealership and they never heard of an LS-6 Chevelle in 1970. But a lot of gearheads read the magazines so they were in the know. and there were a ton of car magazines out there, more than you find today in Barnes and Nobles (5.0 litre Mustangs of the 1980's had at least four of their own i can think of). Peterson Publishing got bought out by TEN who killed a ton of their old magazines to go into youtube videos. but if you were near the big cities....the 426 Hemi was just a starting point. Baldwin Chevy teamed up with Motion Performance in NY and gave you the Phase Three version of Nova, Camaro, Impala or Chevelle...either it ran mid 11's at the track or you got your money back. Mrytle Pontiac swapped the 400 in Firebirds for 428's, and Royal Pontiac tuned any car Pontiac sent along to car magazines to review. Mr. Norm showed of Gran Spalding proved to Dodge that a 440 could fit in their new Dart and Randall AMC put 401's into Gremlins.

[@Sherman62]

@@albertgaspar627 All very true. What I find amusing though is that a stock street hemi was pretty much one thing back then. And most people had a good idea what it meant. Nowadays, there are so many versions and ratings that you need a spreadsheet to keep up. GM and Ford have similar amounts of variety. Not really complaining. The level of performance available now is amazing given the political climate and amount of regulation. The cost has gotten a bit out of hand though.

[@albertgaspar627]

@@Sherman62 I think I get your point. I can go to a cruise night and see an L78 396 in a Super Sport Chevy and someone standing nearby will tell their son, "Your mother once had a 396 in her car" and you almost want to ask, "was that the 2 barrel 9:1 compression version in a station wagon?" but you don't want to be insulting. Like the 340, the Hemi only came one way, and everyone "knew" what it meant even if they knew a myth. Every other muscle power plant had a truck or station wagon version (tho that made it cheaper to build when you started with that and added on good heads and an aftermarket cam, intake and headers). These days, I'm reminded of folks who paid a hot rod shop to build them a car with the "latest" engine, which was the LT1 of the 1990's--by the time the car was built, the LS was out and their hot rod no longer had the newest symbol of performance. Over in the Ford camp, it was the 4.6 litre DOHC Cobra engine, then the supercharged Terminator engine, and if you show up with one swapped into your old Mustang, people wonder why you settled for 390 hp instead of 420 in the Coyote. Entire engine designs change so fast, you can judge what decade an engine swap was performed. Never mind that a Teksid block "terminator" can be pushed to 1,000 hp...it's not a Coyote under the hood. people who don't know what a camshaft does, know performance by the nickname of the engine--is it a "rat" or a "Boss" or are there wires coming out of the valve covers? That all said, it makes the prior engine design a little bit more affordable as owners run to the next shiny new toy, if you build your own muscle. nothing wrong with walking into a dealership and signing your life away--markups have been around since the 245 hp GNX. but as a cheap SOB i think finding a "depreciated" LS or Hemi or Mustang just a few years old, and using the difference in price to slap on a turbo system and a tune without worrying about the factory warantee (long gone) could make a "quick enough" experience in this time of modern muscle. and of course there are people swapping over those drivetrains into earlier cars without the weight of the safety features--no difference than stuffing a solid lifter 396 into a 55 chevy. ironically, the regulations are what got us here--otherwise a modern Hemi would be a 528 cid engine that fouled out spark plugs, ate points, and got 4 mpg without AC. Or advertising would be telling the next generation of young owners that 180 hp was "Excitement" and that performance was stripes and spoilers and better handling on radials than what was found in 1969.

[@Thickercarton]

This channel is so good! Greatly appreciate the work put into them!

[@Dhufeeri]

One of the best documentary clip about the 426. Thanks!

[@overcastfriday81]

Great job. Any docu that includes the water cooled jug is damn thorough.

[@tylerberryman24]

Thank you very much for this, I enjoyed this very much, I know my cars , thought I was dodge guy that knew most of the ins and outs of the muscle era but this filled in all the little voids, the plane engine concept, I did not know, very cool, such a treat to watch 👍🏼

[@tr3ynag4ta]

Imma always love Dodge. I pay my homage to the OG 426 Hemi, and the Hellcat is my dream car. I love muscle cars, I hope I can have both of them one day, and thank you for making this video, because now its in my favorites!!!!

[@Cemi_Mhikku]

6:35 The fucking legend. Growing up in Chicago in the '90s we still heard tales of the Black Ghost in car circles.

[@maxboya]

I don’t know what it is man but your voice is perfect for these kind of videos. I literally go to sleep with you talking about engines.

[@tylermachowski1755]

Crazy that 475 to the crank N/A is still amazing today

[@Stag_Stopa]

I'm a (east-)German 90s child and proud owner of a 4th Gen Viper, but I envy those good 'ol times so much! Back in the day it was all about true and honest dedication - striving for what you (and the OEMs) thought was the best ... Nowadays it's in 19 out of 20 cases just about showing off, social media and image bullshit. Owners of halo cars and exotics used to be down to the bone gearheads with deep dedication for technology (Jay Leno, Jay Kay, Billy Gibbons, Steven Tyler, Rod Stewart and literally EVERY racer), but nowadays all we have are 'influencers' who get sponsored or soccer superstars who can't even spell the word 'supercar' ..... I ask myself where should this end? Engineers at AMG and other companies spend shitloads of money to make the impossible possible - can their new customers really understand and appreciate what they do? People who just want to be cool 'collect' limited edition beauties they never would be able to recognise as what they truly are and freaks have to watch and cry. Call me bitter, but as car maniac I scorn the modern days! But yes, on the other hand we have other 'goodies' to enjoy and left some dark ages behind us. Ha, it still feels weird to compare cars like the 426 Challenger, the McLaren F1, Ferrari 288 GTO or old Group-B and DTM/ITC cars to their modern 'siblings' - to me it just doesn't feel that honest anymore. Nowadays Audi, Porsche, Lamborghini (shortly: VAG) are my personal nightmare in terms of true intent and dedication - it's all about image and pamper their blind customers ... as mechanic who often works on different cars I hate them for boasting around with their knowledge but putting together such garbage (VAG must really hate their shops/customers or they just know that they can dare to behave like that because they're too big too fail.) Sorry for this ... Fianl words: great clip of another golden era! Keep going and see ya, Stag Stopa

[@xmo552]

Nothing forgotten about this one homeboy!

[@selfmedicatedrec7361]

I like how he started talking louder at 2:35. That was brilliant and funny!

[@TheBlackScatPack]

The quality of these videos are amazing! Even tho I do have ideas of where some of these engines originate from you give so much more info to where I learn something new.

[@joshthetrucker9589]

Amazing explanation, man. Love the video, and now I have a new dream car to look forward to. Highly unlikely I'll ever come across one, but if I do... it's gonna be a fun day.

[@davidcross4815]

In 1968 dodge sent a handful of the lightweight " A " body barracuda and darts to Hurst to have the 426 hemi shoehorned into the tiny engine bay. They literally took over the super stock class in drag racing and are basically still the only ones in that class. It was a one year only option ( think 2018 Demon ) While it was technically available to anyone who could plunk the money down at the dealer, most were scooped up by racers before ever hitting the showrooms.

[@lowbornfabrication]

Great channel!! Love how you put content out! Keep up the great work! 🏁🏴‍☠️

[@matthieugerard3124]

Absolutely slept on channel, you need 100x the likes and subscribers you have right now. Your content is rich with information and the quality is unmatched. I hope you get the recognition you deserve

[@MikeJBlues]

Great video, the 1971 vanishing point car was a 440 magnum , the 97 remake was a hemi.

[@amoparx]

I searched through this to see if someone else caught that. I had to take a screen shot of the Challenger's hood in the '71 movie just to prove it was a 440 to a co-worker years ago.

[@soupdancer17]

This channel deserves literally 10 TIMES the subscribers!

[@sr71blackbirddr]

Everyone forgets the white 70 Challenger in terminal velocity which was directed by the son of vanishing point director and a tribute to that car.

[@letsride2057]

Some people don't know but the 383 Super Commando engine has the same 4,25 bore as the 426 Hemi, the heads of the 440. In the late 60's I street raced a modified 383 in a 68 4 speed with Hurst shifted Roadrunner, Keith Black piston, 780 cfm Holley dual feed double pump carb sitting on an Edelbrock Tarantula fed by an electric fuel pump into a fuel dry ice cooler, big Crane cam, no boosted brakes, not enough vacuum, little bit of head work, Accel electronics for spark, Hooker headers putting the power down to BFGoodrich G50 15's, the widest street tires available on Cragar 8x15 wheels. Friday and Saturday nights 1/2 tank of Texaco high octane gas, run down to the local private airplane fueling and add another 1/2 of aviation gas, add dry Ice to the cool can, bump the timing, make some hits until it pinged back off the timing, this was our dyno back then, and go hunting 440's 426's 454's. Racing was from street light to street light, maybe two light if they timed right. Off the light it had the pull of a Hemi but reved like a Lt1 small block, had a 68 Z28 with replaced 70 Lt1 motor, pulled to 6600 rpm. Drove the car everyday to school, just loping around town it got about 3 mile per gallon, racing, well the gas gauge dropped real quick. Had to put a chain from the block to the frame, it was breaking motor mounts, it would pull so hard the the dash would flex and pop the glove box, it went through starters due to the heat from the headers. Worked part time at Kmart making $3.85 but when gas went to 77 cents per gallon and law enforcement was really coming down on street racing and on top I was going to start college it had to be sold.

[@aaronnichols9338]

I'd love to see a video on the 351s from ford. Why was the Cleveland considered by some to be more a big block, why the Windsor stayed in production etc....

[@duckdestroyer2412]

Would you consider doing the Ford 427 SOHC as a forgotten legend? It was an absolute unit of its time.

[@337speed]

Definitely going on the list

[@DS_IndustrieZ]

History of Ford Windsor n modular engines, or Ford v8s, or GM Buick 3.8 3800 or history of gm Chevrolet v8s Lt ls lt2. Plzzzzz P.s or the Chrysler 2.2 K turbo. But gm is always top priority... history of gm v8s or the variations of the 3.8 3800 if nothing else plzzz bro. I know u got a 4.8 vortec in your truck and a v8 in your 240sx, I know u can do a gm engine video justice!!!!

[@jamessharp9790]

? 🤷🏻‍♂️ how exactly is the 427 Sohc Ford a “ Forgotten “ legend ? Common knowledge to gearhead 101. Who doesn’t know about them ? I feel like I’m in the Twilight Zone.

[@duckdestroyer2412]

@James Sharp it was an engine banned from Nascar with an estimated 1500 total being produced. It is well known in some circles, but not well understood anywhere else.

[@jamessharp9790]

@@duckdestroyer2412 I’m aware of its history as are almost any gearhead. Posting common knowledge and posturing as if it’s epiphany doesn’t make it so.

[@RoyMach1ne]

Extremely well done and documented. Thank you for this content.

[@nicksull927]

Bro, your videos are so good! This is the best engine/ car mini doc series ever. Like ever!

[@337speed]

I try my best! Much appreciated bro

[@carterw77]

Quality > Quantity

[@Ender966]

Truly great Videos they really make my day and i really enjoy them. One thing: As an european watcher i would love to get the stats of engines in metric in your slides aswell so that i can truly grasp the numbers :)

[@erikness4231]

That was excellent! I grew up around muscle cars in the 70's and 80's. Never had the $ for anything like that, but loved the scene. I'll have to go through your videos, anything on the 413/426 max wedge, or the 427 SOCH? Subscribed!

[@hi-octanetexas7212]

Well done video. To be clear, the 1971 Vanishing Point cars were 440's. The crappy TV version of VP had the 426.

[@matthewboudreaux2693]

This is a freakin bad ass video.

[@Bryan-FAA-certified]

That was a great video. Very informative and well written. I'm a huge Demon fan.

[@OakLawnSpeedShop]

Great vids. Nice work!

[@Scottocaster6668]

Great info and narration. I wish I was older back in 1970, I was only 4. I love those old Dodge's.

[@mojo3008]

The race Hemi also had higher compression than the street Hemi.

[@Godzukidan]

Imagine how quick those old 426 Hemi would have been with modern-day tires

[@DL30Creations]

Imagine a fresh built 1970 426 HEMI with today's computers and tuning. 0 - death in 3.4 seconds.😳

[@andrewmitchell6966]

RIP Shawn Wilmot. One of the best Mopar restoration pros out there. His 1 of 8 hemi black on black on black 68 chargers was my favorite and imo was undervalued on Mecum.

[@rsookchand919]

I am a simple man I see anything Dodge I like it. but seriously the quality of this video is top-tier

[@mlp-hot-rod5824]

It's a shame it's replacement, the Ball Stud Hemi never saw full production in 1972. I'd love to see someone make crate engines of them.

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

What would have been really great is if the DOHC Hemi made it to production.

[@highvibegardens]

Hey man I love all your videos, incredibly informative and I've seen them all! I eagerly await your new releases! 🙋‍♂️💯🙏

[@DaveMustaine333]

Bro, first video I've ever watched of yours and it was awesome! I'm definitely subscribing

[@js8270]

The Hemi Cuda was always my dream car and based on how much they sell for on TV auctions apparently it was alot of people's dream ride.

[@scotmandel6699]

Same for me the Cuda was better looking than the Challenger. If I had the money, I'd have a Cuda restomod built for me with slightly modified 6.4. I'm afraid I'd kill myself with a Hellcat engine.

[@applejuice9468]

@@scotmandel6699restomod 🤡🤡🤢

[@exnamekian]

That scat pack section was really interesting never knew it applied to hemi challengers