Toro Timemaster - 3 YEAR review - Is it right for you? WATCH before you BUY!

[@caseymac2287]

For anyone having issues with clippings sticking to the bottom of your deck..... Grab some graphite spray paint (sometimes referred to as slick plate paint) and paint the bottom of your mower deck. You'll obviously need to clean and possibly sand the bottom of your deck first. It'll help keep the grass from sticking. It'll also make the grass that does stick come off easier when cleaning.

[@ike21983]

I've had mine for 7 years. Still runs strong and cranks within 2 or 3 pulls. With the exception of small wear and tear fixes, an absolute pleasure to have.

[@TurfCulture]

Seems like they are hit or miss, have not had any issues with mine but I hear complaining from many others.

[@JonsDailyHustle]

Updating my previous comment....bought one of these not long after I watched this vid....I absolutely love it. It's a very good mower

[@TurfCulture]

Loved mine!

[@victorrippe5845]

Ive had mine for a year i use it commercially but only mow 4 lawns a week with it where our big mowers don't fit and no problems what so ever its been a great mower and cut quality is really good.

[@genejennings7375]

I've had my Timemaster for 3 years also and love it. No complaints . Just added the stripper kit and it works great

[@MattyRox]

What’s a stripper kit? Sounds kinky!

[@mellowjammer]

@@MattyRox I want one of those!!!

[@kevinparris1629]

I’ve had a 233 cc version for 2 years and it has performed flawlessly mulching on thick turf grass. It’s thirsty but that’s to be expected since it’s so powerful. It mulches leaves so well I don’t need to rake them. My only complaint is that it wasn’t put together well. It’s had numerous loose bolts. The drive belt came off the pulley then broke. When I replaced it I found that the whole pulley was nearly off the shaft. Toro never tightened it adequately at the factory. That caused belt problems. I replaced the belt and tightened the bolt on the end of the main pulley as best I could. The right side of the personal pace transmission is starting to fail. This mower is 165 lbs too big for one person to put in a truck to take for service. When it works it’s great, just hope yours is more reliable than mine has been

[@td190]

Awesome vid ! I just bought myself this very mower today Easter Sunday the 9th. Your vid totally confirms my good choice !!

[@andyb9994]

I'm on my 3rd season this year with mine and really like it, fuel is the same that my lawn boy duro force was almost a tank per cut..(about same tank size) the grass does build under deck but what mower doesn't like you said clean after each cut and you will not have a issue....I spray mine with WD40 and really helps with grass sticking to deck....I'm very happy with mine it bags great, high grass is no issue....👍👍 From me!!!!

[@dustingiles2043]

I’m picking up me tomorrow I’ve had a lot of guys recommend it I’m a small company only going to use it for a few small yards

[@userbosco]

Dude, I know this is an old video, but excellent review. Clear, concise and unbiased. I bought my Timemaster 5 years ago with the smaller engine, wish I had sold it and got the bigger motor! The deck cleaning issue is a genuine pain, tho. Against mfgr's directions, I scrape the deck after basically every cut. Additionally, every spring, I use a brass cup brush and clean the deck off then spray two coats of primer on it to protect it. Yeah, the bag is nice and big, but I really wish Toro would offer a larger bag for leaf mulching. This mower is great for chewing up the leaves my neighbor's oaks drop every fall, but the bag fills in like 15 seconds (slight exaggeration), but Toro could easily fab a bag that is twice as wide for this application.

[@TurfCulture]

I definitely prefer the 223cc Briggs

[@thelawnanalyst7377]

Awesome review! Someday I hope to upgrade from my Toro Recycler to this beast. I don't think I will ever go away from the personal pace at this point. It is just too smooth and easy. Keep this good content coming!

[@TurfCulture]

Agreed personal pace will definitely spoil you.

[@billybobbob3003]

@@TurfCulture lol this things just a big heavy piece of shit have years of experience with it lol and the engines dont run very well lol they're a son of a bitch to use with any turns fine for straight lines, tight turns just no lol

[@joesemo]

I had the First generation Timemasters. They have come a long way. the 230cc engine was a nice improvement. The air flow in the bagger is three times better than the original and lets you get twice as much in the bagger than the original. The bigger rear wheels have helped. Being able to easily flip the handles to fully flat is nice. The bottom of the deck will get clogged if you mow a lot of wet grass - so have a scrapper and clean the underdeck as needed. Personal Pace is great and works best on flatter lawns. I cut 20-25 hours a week with the Timemaster so I go through two full sets of cables/belts and blades a year. Also I take off the front cover so the belts are exposed, but found out its easier to keep clean with a blower and the belts seem to last longer

[@TurfCulture]

They’ve come a long way from the 190cc model.

[@mellowjammer]

The rear wheels are the same size on all Timemasters since the first generation. 10 inch. part # 125-2509. Maybe you just meant you like that they all have bigger 10" rear wheels?

[@joshrideout8609]

Great review, looking to get my hands on one this summer for our St.louis thick grass.

[@R3V0LV3R45]

I have the 190cc Version, and the criticism is valid. It just doesn’t have the power to really cut through decent thick (not overgrown) grass. It’s my only real gripe with it. Considering I picked up the mower for $400 AUD, and these things sell for more than double secondhand, & retail for more than $1600 AUD, I shouldn’t complain too much.

[@kennethcastaldo7239]

The only issues I had with mine was the pulleys they don't last long..I'll be upgrading mine this year since it's out of warranty now

[@michaelaos]

I bought the TimeMaster Model 21199 in 2019. Just added the Super Recycle Model 21563. I think they really complement each other.

[@brandonhyden9454]

Thanks Brandon. I’ve been thanking about purchasing this mower. Your review has answered my doubts. Keep the video rolling. 👍👊

[@TurfCulture]

Glad I could help, you wont be disappointed.

[@rymaster4385]

Love my Timemaster. Look how thick that’s old lawn was!

[@TurfCulture]

Looking back on the old TTTF lawn I do miss it sometimes!

[@nicklightner]

Great review man! The old lawn looked awesome, can’t wait to see what the new lawn looks like next year!

[@user-mb2vk9lc4f]

I think that it makes a difference if you do almost all of your mowing on a flat lawn, vs having to deal with a lot of hills and bumpy surfaces.

[@KF1]

Want to get one of these for backyard squeezing where my 36" won't fit. All small areas and flat ground. Could be a good efficient option. Thanks for the review, well composed.

[@TurfCulture]

It’s great for that.

[@KF1]

@@TurfCulture right on.

[@rodneycaupp5962]

Good positive review, pretty honest and accurate. My knowledge is based on what all the others say..., like yourself the reviews are pretty positive. Number 0ne in its homeowner style and commercial guts. Very Maneuverable, despite weight, because the balance is "weighted toward the rear drive wheels". The front floats up with just a little push on the green center steer handle, just below the personal speed control bar. Much easier than my 21 inch Troy Built, self propelled, front wheel weighted nightmare to steer, single blade mulcher, 190cc. The forward weight makes it not want to steer even when the wheels are off the ground in front... poor ergonomics.

[@TurfCulture]

Overall it's a great mower

[@thecuttingforce]

Iv had now on my 4 th one I love and hate it lol. Cut good but falls apart to fast . Just bought a new one the other day lol.

[@jk07ist]

Why do you keep buying them?

[@thecuttingforce]

@@jk07ist lol. I know...

[@bmlandmanagementco4981]

@@jk07ist probably because it’s the cheapest, and the lightest of the 30” mowers.

[@JonsDailyHustle]

This mower is actually pretty high on my list to get. I'm probably going to wait until the season really gets going to see how much I'm really going to need it before I buy it but I do plan on getting one eventually, most likely this year

[@TurfCulture]

If you get one new or even find a used mower you'll love it.

[@MICHIGANMIKE12]

Good deal..but get from authorized Toro dealer not home depot..they do NOT have service technicians..and if you take YOUR mower to a Toro guy + you did not buy there...your mower will get fixed maybe..and go to the END of the repair que..so be prepared to WAIT your turn. Will they fix it? Ya probably...but on the 5th Wednesday of the 13th month... be forewarned..

[@eddiereyna2998]

I use a 21 Toro and I never bag and yes it’s the best machine to mulch . I always buy em used and am looking for the 30 w 195 cc

[@ЯрославаБогдан-я3ь]

Lawn looks amazing!

[@justmark56]

I have had mine for 2 yrs. I'm a senior citizen and have been doing this for over 50 yrs. I had a $99.00 Builfers suare lawn mower with less trouble. I take very good care or my timemaster but something always goes wrong. I wish I could get my money back.

[@57natturner]

Awesome review going right now to purchase for 400$

[@mikehinson5935]

Cool, thanks man!!! My mower is shot and I need to upgrade.

[@smithbt5]

I've got an 11 year old one with the smaller motor. It still works great. These are well made machines that will last a long time.

[@durellrichard]

Good review. I've been using my Toro 22 inch recycler for 3 years now. I've been wanting a bigger mower but can't decide on the Turfmaster or Timemaster

[@TurfCulture]

For the money I’d stick with the Timemaster.

[@gtzaskar6353]

I have the one with the 190 cc motor. The only problems I've had was the gas cap leaking and the pulleys for the blades going bad. I've had it for 6 years and I think it's a great mower.

[@TurfCulture]

Rubber belts weren't designed to last forever, I keep a few extras on hand just incase one wears out. These mowers should last a long time with regular maintenance.

[@mellowjammer]

@@TurfCulture He didn't say anything about the belts...

[@jackieburch6875]

Thanks for telling the price

[@cranjismcbasketball2118]

Just got me one!!! cant wait to mow... step up from a home depot yard machines 140cc!

[@TurfCulture]

Oh boy, you are going to love the upgrade!

[@cranjismcbasketball2118]

@@TurfCulture gonna try it out today👍👍👍... believe it or not, the yard machine mower was great, always started, did its job and still works fine

[@TurfTherapy]

Great overarching review bro 👌🏾Hoping have enough space soon to need one of these. 🤙🏾🌱

[@TurfCulture]

Thanks Rob! I may need to eventually start shed shopping.

[@TurfTherapy]

@@TurfCulture 🤣

[@seansmidwestlawn8991]

Great review! Keep the videos coming!

[@rick3747]

I have the Timemaster. I paid $1299 last year with electric start. Today, the electric start is $1499/$1599. I love the Timemaster. The only things that I would prefer changing would be adding 8" front caster wheels and a bigger gas tank. A bigger engine would add weight and the current engine purrs like a Ferrari. What I love about the Timemaster are cut, power, speed and easy start up. I have half an acre and I at age 55 do not want a rider...maybe at age 65+. I still love cutting grass!

[@bryanquall7435]

I've been dreaming about this for years. Every year I look the price gets higher and higher. Shit!

[@rick3747]

@@bryanquall7435 It is superb for the price. Sure, the electric start is like $1,700.00 now. I love the machine. I have about 115 hours. I write my hours for myself since there is no hour meter.

[@mattsfirewoodvideos738]

New sub here i just bought a used exmark 30 inch and ordered a striping kit for it I haven't gotten to use it yet but I am excited to mow this year

[@TurfCulture]

Gonna love that mower, Kawasaki engine?

[@mattsfirewoodvideos738]

@@TurfCulture yeah I'm looking forward to running it i ran it for a little bit the other day when I was checking it out and everything is running as it should

[@Jmanboat]

Great video, even better hat! Go Cardinals!

[@kennycooperkc]

I guess you must’ve made a good video. I just watched the whole thing and I’ll never even need this mower 🤦‍♂️

[@TurfCulture]

Appreciate it LOL

[@akeembooze5126]

My yard deserves this “TimeMaster” #GodBlessYou

[@graceortiz9494]

Nice review. Fuel consumption is my biggest gripe. My lawn is 3900 sq ft and I have to re fuel to finish. And having the toro 22" recycler first don't like the mulch plug on the TM.

[@mct8888]

You mean 39,000 sq ft?

[@cactusray3368]

Great review! Is the Timemaster able to handle tall overgrown grass without bogging down?

[@TurfCulture]

Depends on how tall

[@russellbates1842]

I used mine for two seasons and the engine locked up and had to replace the engine but i cut a small yard every two weeks and that's it.

[@augiev2008]

Excellent review! How do you get those stripes on the grass? Looks like a golf coarse....

[@TurfCulture]

reel mower stripes

[@Runningwithmike]

First one to say the weight of the mower… thank you

[@edwardcampbell3420]

If your mower is struggling, add about 5 seconds of wd40 to full gas tank. I do this at the beginning of every season on old stubborn mower.

[@WillyEast]

Few questions: Does it leave many clumps if you let the lawn go a week w/o cutting? Will it do okay with hills? Can you self-propel it without engaging the blades? Good video.

[@half_cocked]

I believe you can, but the mower is 1499 at HD, I went with Honda and got it off Amazon cause lowes was out of stock in my city… I feel Honda has the better engine, better self propel system, and for 1000 extra I couldn’t see spending it for an extra 9 inches with a Briggs engine…

[@TurfCulture]

Yes it will clump if you get behind on your mowing schedule. It handled the slope in my back yard within no issues and yes you can self propel without engaging the blades (blade stop).

[@stldavid]

Nice Cards hat! I’m in St. Charles

[@benlykins4388]

We’ll made video. Very informative. Looking between Toro and Cubs version. Thanks!

[@TurfCulture]

Can’t go wrong either way, the Timemaster is a great mower.

[@pnojazz]

One of the finest reviews I've ever seen!!!

[@TurfCulture]

Thank you!!

[@anthonyross3957]

Very good review. Appreciate it

[@TurfCulture]

Thank you for watching!

[@Curious-l2q]

How do you remove the plastic part for rear bag mowing? I press down on the clip and the larger plastic part won’t come out :/ suggestions?

[@jasonredwanski5798]

I wonder how much more durable the commercial upgraded one does if it is worth the extra investment, I have 10 lawns on my route that I could see myself using instead of my 21 in recycler

[@greg.montelione]

Thanks for the review. I wish they were $1100. Right now they're $1500-$1600. How is it servicing this mower? Have you had to change any belts?

[@TurfCulture]

Belts aren't too difficult to swap, Briggs is not hard to service either.

[@gregoryburkhead7813]

Great veiw. I wish it was still 1100 dollars 😂 1699. They keep going up .. without any upgrades . Like a bigger tank .. im keeping an eye on it .. but for the right price

[@TurfCulture]

You and me both!

[@lakehouselawncare1755]

Great video, Brandon! That is a sweet machine.

[@TurfCulture]

It's a work horse for sure!

[@noelmadden1920]

Hi. Nice video. Do you find that the wheels of the mower flatten the grass so that grass doesn't get cut on the next circuit then the grass straightens up the day after the cut and is left longer than the rest?

[@TurfCulture]

At times, it’s a heavy mower.

[@mellowjammer]

Not saying you do, but try not to cut when grass is wet to reduce this issue.

[@noelmadden1920]

@@mellowjammer sorted it. Got rid of the moss and now cutting way lower so no issue now.

[@cartoonkiiller8812]

Great review ...whats the brand name of your stripper ...... sweet lawn .......

[@TurfCulture]

Thanks! the striper is by Big League Lawns, the checkmate striping kit. I just posted a new video reviewing one of them last week.

[@bphilbac]

It has a hose attachment so you can clean underneath it after each use and it works great.

[@TurfCulture]

Yes it does and it works well as long as you use it regularly.

[@DelCorbin]

When emptying the bag but leaving the engine running, does the motor still run full speed? It sounded like it did and no doubt using more fuel.

[@mellowjammer]

Yes, the stock engine is single speed. I replaced mine with a Kohler CV-224 which has a throttle on it.

[@Theultrazombiekiller]

I use it in my landscaping business and it is fantastic. It really does save time, especially as a solo operator like myself, I can literally get 30-40% more lawns done in a day using it.

[@jshdtrch1]

Can you make a video about how you made your striper

[@TurfCulture]

It’s a Big League striping kit.

[@alejandroramos4992]

Just bought mine today and cut for the first time. Loved it, but does it not push forward unless the engine is on? (not the blades) It only goes in reverse when not on.

[@TurfCulture]

While the engine is not running the wheels are locked?

[@tims728]

You might have worked out now, if the motor isn't running, you have to use the bar with blue handle attached. Don't engage the pace system. If you think about how the pace system functions, applying the self propel will activate the drive pulley system. If the motor isn't running, the drive system can't propel the mower, effectively you are placing resistance onto the drive pulleys and this is causing a drag or brake effect, giving you the feeling the mower is locked when going forward. Pulling back takes the force of the belts so the mower simpky rolls, try pushing forward without using the pace system by pushing elsewhere on the top handle, you will find it rolls ok. Not a fault of the machine or the user, just need to understand the propel function. Hope that helps.

[@ethansnyder7488]

Only thing not cleaning your deck off is it will rust the deck out because the grass never dries. It won't make it work harder or wear it out in that sense

[@TurfCulture]

Good rule of thumb is keep your deck clean and dry.

[@frankcloskey7789]

Toro lawn mowers are the best you can buy . 11/18/2021

[@TheLawnGuardian]

Great review, Brandon!

[@TurfCulture]

Thanks! How are you liking you new mower so far?

[@mikefordguy3364]

Been eyeing this mower or purchasing a small rider perhaps a 42 inch Cub Cadet XT2. Sounds like the XT2 at 3300 might make more sense double the money but with the issues you bring up why bother?

[@TurfCulture]

This mower costs $1,500 now. I’d go with an entry level zero turn.

[@robertcasey7312]

Thank you!

[@jadd6810]

I'd like to know what paint you used on the wheels and maybe a link to the stripping kit?

[@TurfCulture]

I just used some satin black spray paint. The stripe kit it from www.bigleaguelawns.com/ use coupon code “bushleaguelawns” for 10% off.

[@darrenupton5500]

Ive just ordered a new one. I use them commercially and when they break i just buy another. I do grease every bearing once a year. The wheel bearings are total crap and they will seize up. I cut the side discharge hole bigger as i only use them for discharging. I tried the Turfmaster but im not impressed with it and now thats broken ive gone back to the Timemaster.

[@michaeldaniels5584]

Great video review. Did you have to replace any belts or cables during your 3 years. I was just curious? This will be on my buy list. Thanks

[@TurfCulture]

I haven’t had to change the belts, BUT I would suggest checking under the pulley cover and cleaning under there a few times a year.

[@michaeldaniels5584]

Sounds good thanks

[@montanawhite5699]

Damn this thing got a bigger motor than both my motorcycles.

[@peterthepakeha2799]

If they put zero turn wheels at the front it would be great

[@TurfCulture]

It handles pretty well with the current setup.

[@jeffwisniewski5018]

Anyone else having a problem with belts? When it works, it cuts great. But the belts keep failing on mine. Belts aren't covered under warranty.

[@mellowjammer]

Remove the pivot bolt that holds the Blade Brake Arm and check to see if the arm has cut an angled groove into the pivot bolt. This throws the belt out of alignment and you will chew up belt after belt (the primary blade drive V-belt, not the wide cogged belt) . Bad design. You can replace the whole assembly with the parts from the Turfmaster and eliminate that problem for good but it will cost a few bucks and a little wrenching.

[@bustermv]

Sold!

[@CuttaSquad]

Them black wheels are nice

[@bucketofsteam9260]

The video mentions ~$1100 cost but that has increased to, at least in my area, $1,699.

[@TurfCulture]

Like most things in the past few years unfortunately.

[@cheddarUSA1]

is that a striper on the back I see, if so what one is it if you dont mind me asking

[@TurfCulture]

It's the Checkmate Stripe Kit

[@algorel4763]

Great review! I don’t have one, but a friend has one, and loves it! Toro should offer one with an Aluminum deck, like the Super Recycler. That would be awesome.

[@TurfCulture]

I would love an all black one from the factory if they made those! All aluminum deck would be cool too!

[@mellowjammer]

@@TurfCulture Did you see Ryan Knorr's Timemaster project video? kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZS6XoJ9eLWmoKs Timemaster part starts at 10:00.

[@TurfCulture]

@@mellowjammer I did that was an epic video!

[@dethkl0k]

90% of my "lawn" is dirt, and pine cones...and I'm over here watching mower reviews. Sir, how does this mower do with dirt?

[@TurfCulture]

It’s a awfully fine dirt striping machine 👍🏻

[@strongspeed]

what is a striping kit? and cost?

[@TurfCulture]

Checkmate stripe kit ~ $99

[@scodo64]

What? No comments about the blue sponge in the gas tank? did you pull it to get more gas in the tank? most people say don't I saw where one dude pulled it out,

[@TurfCulture]

The blue sponge hasn’t really been an issue for me. Toro recommends that you not remove it to prevent fuel agitation. I never really understood why this is such a comment complaint.

[@mellowjammer]

@@TurfCulture I don't have that but does it make it difficult to see the fuel level in the tank when it's not completely full? I could see that being a bit of a PITA!

[@marklloyd4153]

I love Honda mowers . One pull & my mowers start even 20 years old . Can the Briggs and Stratton engine hold up like the Honda’s . That’s the only issue or concern I have . Briggs & Stratton were nightmares for me in the past but brands like Kohler have improved to b more reliable like Honda and Kawasaki ,but has Briggs done or achieved this ???

[@TurfCulture]

My personal opinion. Briggs has come a long way and their most recent engine configurations are very close to the Honda’s.

[@grey1777]

I've owned a Honda mower for 2 years and have not had such luck unfortunately.

[@joesubler1169]

Mine has electric start but always starts right away. My wife wanted a Honda last year so she can cut with something less heavy. We bought it (HRX217) last year (2020) with top to bottom 5 year warranty from Honda per the brochure. From day 1 it would start surging and sputtering after warm-up but ran fine when blade was engaged. So, because of covid I held off taking it in to check due to the 5 year warranty. This summer it got worse so I finally called the dealership and was told it was bad gas or dirt so I should have taken it in right away because now, after a year, Honda would not cover it since they don't cover bad gas. I told them I use the same non ethanol gas in my Toro and Honda but they said Honda warranty wouldn't apply for dirt or bad gas. I again told them it has done this since day 1 with no change. I checked another Honda dealer and was told the same. I called Honda and was told the same thing. Both dealers said the cost would be about 100 bucks so I cleaned the carb myself and it now runs fine. My wife loves her Honda but I'll never buy another one and this was our 3rd Honda! I'll stick with Toro from now on.

[@joesubler1169]

Mine has electric start but always starts right away. My wife wanted a Honda last year so she can cut with something less heavy. We bought it (HRX217) last year (2020) with top to bottom 5 year warranty from Honda per the brochure. From day 1 it would start surging and sputtering after warm-up but ran fine when blade was engaged. So, because of covid I held off taking it in to check due to the 5 year warranty. This summer it got worse so I finally called the dealership and was told it was bad gas or dirt so I should have taken it in right away because now, after a year, Honda would not cover it since they don't cover bad gas. I told them I use the same non ethanol gas in my Toro and Honda but they said Honda warranty wouldn't apply for dirt or bad gas. I again told them it has done this since day 1 with no change. I checked another Honda dealer and was told the same. I called Honda and was told the same thing. Both dealers said the cost would be about 100 bucks so I cleaned the carb myself and it now runs fine. My wife loves her Honda but I'll never buy another one and this was our 3rd Honda! I'll stick with Toro from now on.

[@archiewalden9918]

I have both honda and Briggs and stratton and Briggs and stratton is just as tough!!

[@cheddarUSA1]

is this mower too heavy for slanted banks, I have a AWD mower that works but its only 21" and kinda light

[@TurfCulture]

I have a decent slope in my back yard and I haven't had any issues with the weight of the mower.

[@cheddarUSA1]

@@TurfCulture thanks man, appreciate the reply

[@mr.glennlandscapes354]

Most unreliable pushmower but best pushmowing quality I have ever owned

[@TurfCulture]

It's a love hate relationship.

[@hgone7221]

How does this compare to the Masport Rotarolla?

[@TurfCulture]

I’ve never used the Masport so I’m not entirely sure.

[@Conky88]

How long does the small gas tank last?

[@TurfCulture]

Roughly 10k sqft of mowing

[@Conky88]

@@TurfCulture hell that ain’t bad

[@thomasanderson4664]

Thank You

[@TurfCulture]

No. Thank YOU.

[@asmrcheatdays3139]

Where did you get the stripper ?

[@TurfCulture]

Big League Lawns

[@pcfriese4570]

How many bushels does the bag hold? Saying it holds 'hole lot of clippings' isn't really a measurement. How many bushels does it hold compared to the Scag 32"?

[@TurfCulture]

No clue on how many bushels

[@basajacosaja2735]

🙄

[@mellowjammer]

I don't know but it packs the hell out of the bag. When emptying a full bag I usually have to reach in and pull the grass out to get it started. End up with a green arm by the time I'm done!

[@WillyVLD]

We probably got a Monday morning model. The back height adjustment slips out of the setpoint and if we engage the clutch to quickly it stalls (is this something you encounter as well?)

[@TurfCulture]

I’ve never had that issue, is the mower less than 3 years old? Might want to reach out to Toro.

[@WillyVLD]

@@TurfCulture thanks, it’s less then 14 days old. So will rang the store again and otherwise indeed directly contact Toro directly. Thanks for the confirmation that this is not normal behaviour! Have a good day!

[@WillyVLD]

@@TurfCulture Well, it appears that Toro doesn't care about their non US customers, there is no EU contact (only the dealer) and toro international is not replying to my email or the reminder of it. So I'm very disappointed in the brand (at least in EU), but other then that the mower is fine, but it feels just plain wrong, I could get better support from my DIY store on a non brand mower. Thanks again for your thoughts!

[@mellowjammer]

Sounds like you need to replace a slightly bent wheel height adjustment lever (spring steel). Yes I've seen the stalling thing happen on this mower and my Honda HRX217 as well. Just engage the blade slowly and it will be fine. (It's also much easier on the parts, belts, etc.) Do it consciously for a while and it will become second nature.

[@WillyVLD]

@@mellowjammer thanks in the end I contacted Toro UK and they took care of me and the dealer 😉. Bend the height adjustment back and got a new one plus the Shute which got damaged and now it works flawlessly. Indeed if I somewhat slower engage the blades it works perfect now.

[@excelerater]

how do you keep it from clogging up ? Mines a clogmaster

[@TurfCulture]

Every mower that I have ever used has had some clogging issues at certain times of the year. With the Timemaster just try to keep the deck somewhat clean between mowings as a regular part of your maintenance program.

[@noelmadden1920]

Cut often and when dry.

[@lucasjohnson1467]

How does it do with a lumpy, bumpy, not flat yard, and tree roots?

[@TurfCulture]

Tree roots depend on your HOC. My back yard is very bumpy and I also have a slope, it does very well.

[@mrcrowley2737]

Can you still use the self propelled when blades are stopped? Asking for a friend...

[@TurfCulture]

Yes the mower comes with the blade stop feature.

[@williamdelotto1786]

Only issue I have is small tank.

[@mellowjammer]

Agreed...but with one quick search I found 3 KZbin videos showing how to add a 1 gallon tank to this mower for those who require it.

[@bfwaring]

Hello sir, what exactly does Toro's 3 year warranty cover? Thanks

[@TurfCulture]

Quick google search found this www.torodealer.com/en-us/Pages/Warranty.aspx

[@nuttybull]

where did you get that stripping kit?

[@TurfCulture]

www.bigleaguelawns.com/ if you use coupon code "bushleaguelawns" it will save you 10%

[@nuttybull]

@@TurfCulture thx!

[@josh.kaptur]

I've heard so much about transmission problems and/or issues on steep grades on these mowers... is that a thing of the past?

[@TurfCulture]

I think that was more of a issue with the 190cc model, in 2016 Toro made a few changes to the 223cc config and I believe the transmission was one of them.

[@mellowjammer]

My 190cc 2012 model never had a transmission issue but my yard is not huge and does not have any significant hills...but I put a new tranny on it anyway when I swapped out the briggs 190cc for a Kohler CV224.

[@MrSpeedysteve1]

I had 7 years of home mowing a 1/2 acre, mulching only - when the transmission finally gave up. I removed the trans, (see Tarylfixesall's video) and stripped it down to find the halfshaft retaining plastic bush, that also doubles as a oil pick up circulator, had sheared in half! This bush is under stress when you shock the right wheel over bumps or down flower border edges etc. Being plastic it's just wear and tear. Having a lathe (Southbend 9"), I made a new brass bush with stainless bolt retainer, instead of the little pin Toro used. I machined out the centre of the old bush / oil pick up part, so the blades could be bolted on the brass bush I'd made. Cleaned off all the silicone gasket sealant and sealed again with new oil in. All the gears and moving parts in the transmission apart from the plastic bush were in fine order. Saved $150 or £180 as they are this side of the pond! Works like new again. Easy job for someone handy / access to a lathe. If Toro uprated the transmission in newer models, I reckon it was beefing up this part!

[@cameronday5957]

Have you had any issues with the fuel cap not locking correctly? Mine keeps having gas drip out of it. I bought a new cap just yesterday and it still is kind of loose, it won't secure tightly. Any suggestions anyone? It's driving me nuts.

[@TurfCulture]

I haven’t had any issues with the gas cap, this is a strange issue that I really haven’t seen before. Sorry I couldn’t be more help!

[@noelmadden1920]

I had the same issue. If you have the old cap take the seal out of it and add it as an additional one in the new cap. Failing that get an old thick rubber glove and cut the shape of the seal out of it and place it inside the cap.

[@mellowjammer]

I had the same issue. Bought a replacement cap and it was no better. Put a thicker o-ring on it and it was a PITA to close the gas cap. So I just replaced the engine!!! (I was going to do it anyway!)