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@alperozturk4575
@alperozturk4575 3 жыл бұрын
I don't want to generalize them, but vast amount of people in germany with Turkish roots are content with the economic regression and devalued currency in Turkey and big fan of Erdoğan as they are able to buy whatever they want with Euro that is 10 times stronger than the Turkish Lira when they come to Turkey.
@coraandhernicebangs7703
@coraandhernicebangs7703 3 жыл бұрын
True. A lot of them are AKP supporters.
@briodiz4772
@briodiz4772 3 жыл бұрын
🙄🙄🙄🙄🤣🤣🤣🤣
@iloyaa6760
@iloyaa6760 3 жыл бұрын
exactly. They all vote for erdogan. The depreciation of the Turkish lira is good for them. They come here every summer and spend money, take a vacation, meet their needs. They don't think about their nation at all. so-called patriots🤦‍♀️.
@prathameshbhat9816
@prathameshbhat9816 3 жыл бұрын
When I was studying in Germany ,I saw Turkish people hate Germany and used to say all good things about turkey and Erdogan. But when I asked them will they move back they used to give weird reasons. Also many openly said they want Turkish economy to weaken as it helps them to get cheaper tours. This is just my observation nothing against any community
@ashwinprabha2782
@ashwinprabha2782 3 жыл бұрын
I thought majority of turkey citizens love erdogan atleast what media from Turkey shows like in TRT world Is there any opposition coalition in future would get power ???
@andreasracziu309
@andreasracziu309 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, it was so interesting to hear about how 1st generation workers actually felt like Germany was their home, and that they felt very well accepted. For the second-generation son, he moved back to Turkey because he felt like he always have a hard time being accepted in Germany because he had difficulty finding a job. The third-generation son also felt welcomed in Germany, at least more so than his father. He still experienced prejudice in school, but much less than his father. Very cool to learn about the different Turkish-German experiences.
@subutaynoyan5372
@subutaynoyan5372 Жыл бұрын
Turks have high amount of national pride, but they're also dynamic and willing to adapt changes much easier than your average middle eastern folk. Which usually makes them the oddshot in such situations.
@jordanmendez8474
@jordanmendez8474 2 жыл бұрын
I found it very interesting how the first generation workers from Turkey in Germany had a more welcoming and an overall different experience, especially in the sixties, in contrast to the more recent generations. It is interesting since here in America the same can’t be said when it comes to social and political agreements. The newer generations share a similar struggle because of expectations and prejudices such as those that the third-generation son explained. I also relate to rooting for the country you spent the entirety of your life in and also rooting for the country of my family and origins.
@liveforever9888
@liveforever9888 2 жыл бұрын
Because the immigration has got out of hand. The Turks who arrived first were never supposed to stay there permanently, instead they all brought over their families.
@MIKRASIATISSA
@MIKRASIATISSA Жыл бұрын
My German-born cousins say they feel both German and Turkish. I can feel that they have adopted the country they were born and raised in, when we talk about a historical or cultural subject. They love the country they live in and are proud of their ethnic and national identity.
@carmofantasmapiu5575
@carmofantasmapiu5575 3 жыл бұрын
Will you do a piece on Italian emigrants to Germany too? They are a lot and have a lot of stories to tell.
@canonaler
@canonaler 2 жыл бұрын
Stop being jealous lmao
@canaanite448
@canaanite448 2 жыл бұрын
@@canonaler jealous of what?
@lotuscabrio2937
@lotuscabrio2937 Жыл бұрын
Also in belgium
@AnnRen-nh4ur
@AnnRen-nh4ur Жыл бұрын
@@canonaler There's nothing to be jealous of
@ariannamonaco5291
@ariannamonaco5291 Жыл бұрын
I found it so interesting how at the beginning of the video Gulsen Demirbilek states that she "wanted to buy a car and get straight home" but little did she know what was coming next. It just goes to show how out of the loop the government kept everyone. It was very wholesome to hear the perspective of a third-generation guest worker from Turkey and the gratitude he showed towards his parents/grandparents fighting to give him a better life than they had. It is sad to see that the people that fought hard for his education will never get to have that same experience.
@giannidigianni4173
@giannidigianni4173 3 жыл бұрын
This is a beautiful, secular and well integrated family . What I sense is that the first generation is more grateful to Germany than the other two. Who knows why
@xexes3975
@xexes3975 2 жыл бұрын
@@hakanozaslan9571 if Germany treated them as turks treat Syrians..there wouldn't be a single turk in Germany...
@KH-cs7sj
@KH-cs7sj 2 жыл бұрын
Not every war is worth fighting, especially if it's to the benefit of some dictators
@jaimelannister8631
@jaimelannister8631 2 жыл бұрын
@@xexes3975 turks went there to work, with an agreement. They werent like 7-9 million people.
@cemarslanoglu882
@cemarslanoglu882 Жыл бұрын
They are a beautiful, secular and well integrated family because they are Alevis. A very tolerant and secular religious minority in Turkey which makes up around 15% of the population; a group I am very lucky and very proud to be a member of.
@elifsu9308
@elifsu9308 2 жыл бұрын
I love how they all had different definitions of what home is to them, which made all of their answers different. But also I found it interesting that each generation had a different answer for feeling welcome to Germany. I wonder why these answers differ? Was it because as time went by and the more Turkish people settled the attitude of the "ethnic" Germans changed toward the guest workers, or if they all have a different definition of what being welcome is?
@AG-ni8jm
@AG-ni8jm 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting short. Something kinda missed is the fact that for decades Turks and their kids were discouraged from staying and being German citizens (always referred to legally as Guest Workers, even later generations, until recently). The same people who decry Turks for not being German enough were for decades trying to prevent them from being so in the hopes they'd leave Germany
@freddyvorace9990
@freddyvorace9990 3 жыл бұрын
Which is normal.
@seriously1184
@seriously1184 3 жыл бұрын
@A G Not true All men were allowed to bring over their wives and children The children went to school and the wives could get a job if they wanted to Single men even got married with German women back in the 1960's People were encouraged to move with their families to European countries to work and to live there Some of those people even opened up their own business or shops So you are clearly wrong and don't know what you are talking about
@PawSmalls
@PawSmalls 3 жыл бұрын
@@freddyvorace9990 Something is normal if it's accepted by most people, not just one political party or just one group.
@sysprogrammer1
@sysprogrammer1 3 жыл бұрын
@@freddyvorace9990 native americans still hoping europeans will leave one day, yeah
@freddyvorace9990
@freddyvorace9990 3 жыл бұрын
@@sysprogrammer1 then, why did they vote for Biden ?
@djenabousow7471
@djenabousow7471 2 жыл бұрын
Smart , brave and hardworking people which deserve all the best in their lives. Long live Turkey
@hen5526
@hen5526 Жыл бұрын
Turks take alot of welfare in Germany
@ashokathegreat4534
@ashokathegreat4534 Жыл бұрын
Smart?
@arcabuz
@arcabuz Жыл бұрын
Bullsh1t. Many of us Europeans tend to forget that the Ottoman Empire tried to push into Europe and still in these days a half of Cyprus is still occupied by Turks. ZERO sympathy for them.
@tejasviaanand
@tejasviaanand 11 ай бұрын
😂​@@ashokathegreat4534
@kartalyigit65688
@kartalyigit65688 7 ай бұрын
@r.h.m9151 we need to send your indo european speaker afghans and send our turks back. 😉
@Roman500
@Roman500 3 жыл бұрын
We have a lot of Turkish people in NL too, the overwelming part of the Dutch are greatful for their amazing food, and all the essential jobs they help to fill. So thank you Turks!
@guacamolebelacan8094
@guacamolebelacan8094 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry for out of the topic, but I’m curious about Indonesians in NL? Could they blend and immerse with the locals? And how the locals think about Indonesian?
@Roman500
@Roman500 3 жыл бұрын
@@guacamolebelacan8094 there are already a lot Indonesians in NL because it is a former Dutch colony. Most are mixed already into the population, so its hard to say how many people here have Indonesians roots, some research state that about 5% of the populaition has Indonesian DNA mixed in. Regardless, at the moment there are over 200.000 first generation Indonesians here. They are considered to just be part of the Dutch. You can also tell by the huge amount of Indonesian food you can buy at any local grocery store. For example; nasi goreng, rendang, babi pangang, bakso, soto, etc.
@guacamolebelacan8094
@guacamolebelacan8094 3 жыл бұрын
@@Roman500 wow you are even familiar with those Indonesian foods. Haha. Thanks for the information by the way. Nice information.
@MasterMode2074
@MasterMode2074 3 жыл бұрын
I live in NL and nothing you say is true. Turks here are very aggressive and most Dutch rightfully so don't like them. Stop lying.
@Roman500
@Roman500 3 жыл бұрын
@@MasterMode2074 haha okay we have a few racists here like you. But they are a minority.
@irinailieva3533
@irinailieva3533 Жыл бұрын
I found this video extremely educational and interesting! I loved to see the 3 generations of Turkish immigrants, and how they feel about living in Germany. The 1st generation workers felt as if Germany was now their home since they have lived there now for over 60 years, whilst their son felt that Turkey was his true home. The grandson loves living in Germany, and believes it is his home. I want to know more about how the grandparents transitioned into life in Germany, and was if a difficult decision to choose raising their children there and not in Turkey. I am a immigrant from Bulgaria, and moved to the US at just 1 year old. To my mother she is starting to feel that America is her new home, however for me I will always feel like Bulgaria is my true home and I place I want to live when I grow older. I have been to Germany several times in the past when traveling to Bulgaria, and it seems like a beautiful place to want to integrate your family into, I have many friends and family of my own that have lived in Germany in that past.
@giverpow2837
@giverpow2837 4 ай бұрын
There are a lot of Turks in Germany. The Germans need to be more attentive to the fact that they are repeating the mistake of the Greeks when they sheltered these rootless nomads in their country.
@dailybls
@dailybls 2 ай бұрын
hahaha. rootless nomads? we had a 600 year old empire, isn't that settled enough for you? by your logic, germans are no different. violent vandals.
@spencernolan5733
@spencernolan5733 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this video was extremely eye-opening and says a lot about the strength of Turkish culture. The perspective of these first generation Turkish workers gives a lot of insight on how they lived their lives during that time period. It's hard to imagine where Germany would be today without Turkey's presence and the influence of guest workers. I found it interesting how most of the people being interviewed described Germany as being their "home" even though it wasn't their original birthplace. I wonder why Turkish people still get treated differently in the country today. Turkey is a large part of Germany's success, and the country should be more appreciative.
@mparmparos
@mparmparos 2 жыл бұрын
Those who blame Turkish people for not integrating into German culture should look for the answer in German politics. So far it's been the subconscious discrimination on the minds of many Germans and not bringing the legal structure for equality for everyone in Germany to blame for why Turks can't still feel fully at home there even in the 4th generation.
@hfur7758
@hfur7758 2 жыл бұрын
Same All over Europe.
@mimimi8238
@mimimi8238 2 жыл бұрын
That's one part. The other part comes from the German Turks. Those who are permanently attached to Turkey and simply do not want to identify with Germany have only themselves to blame. With some it is called until today still "I would die for my country (Turkey)".
@hfur7758
@hfur7758 2 жыл бұрын
@@mimimi8238 Same affiliation you would find all over the World. Stop talking Shysey.
@hfur7758
@hfur7758 2 жыл бұрын
@@mimimi8238 That's quite normal with expatriate s All over the World. Please travel Observe and learn . 🍓
@younggilbert9084
@younggilbert9084 2 жыл бұрын
@@hfur7758 No it's not. and those aren't expatriates, he's talking about german-turks in their 3rd or 4th generation. expatriates are people living in a country for a short time with a plan to return to their original country. 3rd or 4th generation means ur family has been there for 50-80 years. You were born there, ur parents were born there and ur grandparents were born there.
@MrJaki333
@MrJaki333 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was working one summer in Germany, World cup has been played. Germany was playing against South Korea. Most of my my turkish coleagues were supporting Korea, all of them borned in Germany. Germany gave them everything but I had a feeling that they hate the country but love money. So much about integration.
@jokhakassim4241
@jokhakassim4241 3 жыл бұрын
They must have a reason nothing happens without a reason. If the system discriminate them what do you expect? And most of the third generation are born here and studied here..if they feel unwelcomed ofcourse they will hate too
@MrJaki333
@MrJaki333 3 жыл бұрын
@@jokhakassim4241 i have half of my family moved from Croatia to Germany during communism and after war. None of them feel unwelcomed. Same with most of eastern europeans,africans, latinos. Why just turkish feel that way? Maybe it is their fault in the end🤔 And btw, why would somone live in a country that discriminates him or her? I would not 🤷‍♂️
@LoveAndPeace2004
@LoveAndPeace2004 3 жыл бұрын
@@balporsugu2.0 And Germany is not? Tf
@luxploded
@luxploded 3 жыл бұрын
Historically, Turkey and Korea have a very close relationship (e.g. fighting together against the communists in the Korean war). And I guess it was kinda refreshing to see an underdog beating a Weltmeister.
@MrJaki333
@MrJaki333 3 жыл бұрын
@@luxploded oh, yeah, i get it. Some war 70 years ago is a reason to support a country you dont know anything about when playing against the country were you were born, raised up, where your family is,friends,, where you work and gave you a chance to have a decent life. Your logic is amazing. I just hope you are sarcastic.
@keegancarmien
@keegancarmien Жыл бұрын
It is very emotional and inspiring to hear the stories of Turkish guest workers and their descendants. I can see firsthand from these stories why it was so imperative for the Turkish to establish themselves in Germany and provide greater opportunities for their children and grandchildren. It is pretty interesting to hear about how accepting these individuals were of Germany and how it is now considered home for them because of their family. I do not have any known connections to Germany or immigration to Germany, however, I empathize with the first-generation Turkish worker's bravery.
@S.Solmazturk
@S.Solmazturk 3 жыл бұрын
Do we have any statistics about intermarriages between ethnic Turks and Germans? I heard that Turks mostly choose their spouses from their community.
@jacobwwarner
@jacobwwarner 3 жыл бұрын
I think I remember reading the same thing
@guru47pi
@guru47pi 3 жыл бұрын
It's really the same in every ethnic group, including Germans; people generally marry the people they're around the most, and that typically means the same ethnic group and class
@godofchaoskhorne5043
@godofchaoskhorne5043 3 жыл бұрын
In the Netherlands most Turks marry other Turks. This is especially true for Turkish girls. It's not too surprising. I also prefer to marry a Turk. I wouldn't not marry a Dutch girl or something if I fell in love with one. But I'd prefer a Turk because it's easier and we understand our culture on a deeper level. Usually when a Turkish girls marries a Dutch or non Turkish guy the guy won't take any interest in Turkish culture. But with Turkish guys dating non Turkish girls the girls usually try very hard to learn about the culture etc
@batuhanyayla7214
@batuhanyayla7214 3 жыл бұрын
@@godofchaoskhorne5043 I think in marriage diversity is a good thing both Side can improve their emphaty and learn New things
@wrightvcx2249
@wrightvcx2249 3 жыл бұрын
Germans do not like to mingle around with Turks. Turkish people, in general, do not have a good reputation in Western Europe.
@cblake786
@cblake786 3 жыл бұрын
I love how the first generation immigrants said they had a wonderful experience and the 2nd & 3rd generation complain about having to work harder or blaming a missed job opportunity on being Turkish. People that know real oppression almost never claim they are victims
@godofchaoskhorne5043
@godofchaoskhorne5043 3 жыл бұрын
The first generation didn't run from oppression they just needed work. They also came and had jobs ready for them in a booming economy. The newer generations are just regular German citizens only they have a lot less opportunities because of their ethnicity / name etc. A few years back I've did a small experiment with a class mate of mine. Both sent our CVs to the same companies for an internship. We sent them to 12 companies. I only got 3 replies 2 of them telling me they didn't need anyone / the position was filled. Only one invited me while my friend got 10 invites including from the two companies that claimed the position was filled. Despite the fact that my CV was a lot more impressive. This was in the Netherlands but I imagine its the same in Germany. It's vile to pretend there isn't any discrimination or insinuate younger Turks shouldn't have a right to complain about it. And it being a lot harder to get a job or internship isn't even a drop in the bucket with how much discrimination and racism you experience as a Turk in Europe esp if you live in a mroe rural area.
@luxploded
@luxploded 3 жыл бұрын
​@@godofchaoskhorne5043 As a 1st generation in Germany, I have to agree with the OP. Not denying there is no racism. It just doesn't have a huge impact in my life. I guess it all comes down to expectation. For me personally, simply surviving in a foreign country is already a huge success that makes me happy and grateful (No, I had no jobs ready for me when I came here. Had to start from zero). Still, sorry about your bad experience
@KonsaiAsTai
@KonsaiAsTai 3 жыл бұрын
@@godofchaoskhorne5043 Maybe your friend was just better? Unless the CV's were literally 1:1, I very much doubt this subjective view on what employers do or don't do because of perceived discrimination.
@burcuvasdfg596
@burcuvasdfg596 3 жыл бұрын
@@KonsaiAsTai dude thats wishfull thinking. There has been many studies on that topic. İf you are a minority people will care less about your applications compared to a member of majority ethnicity. İts common knowledge at this point
@gizemakbal6449
@gizemakbal6449 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by 'real oppression'?!!! This is such an uninformed and bias comment. 1st generation immigrate due to economic reasons not oppression. My grandfather is from Istanbul and worked in Germany for a year and came back because life quality wasn't great in germany and he was better off as a skilled worker in Istanbul. The ones who stayed are usually because they were coming from remote villages where the economic prospects and life quality was not great. 2nd and 3rd generation is discriminated both in Germany and in Turkey.
@JackAllen-jf6nk
@JackAllen-jf6nk Жыл бұрын
I find it interesting how everyone has a different meaning of “home”, as some described it as where you work and live, and others defined it as wherever you feel comfortable. I have to agree that home is wherever you feel comfortable, even if you live or work in another country. I also find it interesting that the workers stay in Germany even after they have stopped working. I would like to learn more about the differences in education, living and working between Germany and Turkey that would keep Turkish workers in Germany.
@harukrentz435
@harukrentz435 3 жыл бұрын
Is it true that Erdogan is popular to Turkish population in Germany, or europe in general??
@Lunar_Alexus
@Lunar_Alexus 3 жыл бұрын
Turkish people who lives in Germany loves erdogan because of the economy management. If they have 1000 euro, it becames 10.000 liras. Eventually, they can go to turkey for a cheap vacation.
@bavery6957
@bavery6957 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's more pride in their Turkish roots - doesn't matter who's leading the country...
@PawSmalls
@PawSmalls 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lunar_Alexus That's not true. Turks here want Turkey to do well, and they believe Erdoğan is helping Turkey forward. Since most of them are on the more religious side, their bias leans in favor of everything Erdoğan does. Turks in Europe hail from traditional villages, who are Erdoğan's target voters.
@borabayindir4510
@borabayindir4510 3 жыл бұрын
More than %60 of Turkish population living in Germany voted for Erdogan in last general elections. While most of them voting for Greens and Linke in Germany. It is a hard topic, but If I have to explain it in short, most of them are belonging to working class the first generation of guest workers. To be able to look after family most of them were doing multiple jobs in hard terms, and was being discriminated. ( if interested you can check documentation or the book "Ganz Unten" from Gunter Wallraff) which slowed their adaptation to country. And Erdogan and many populist leaders are good at fueling these feelings and manipulating them into become more nationalist. With the same reason, they are voting for left parties here, is because they seem to care for minorities. Same story across Europe. But when you look Turkish people who are living abroad in other countries like USA or Canada for example Erdogan is not getting more than 30% of votes. Because people living there mostly not being discriminated and does not look for nationalist feelings to feel "belonging" somewhere. I hope this explains some.
@thifmaster1466
@thifmaster1466 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it is a real problem I know enough turks wich are very passionate about him and have never realy lived in turkey
@maskeliyuzler6346
@maskeliyuzler6346 Жыл бұрын
I was also invited by Germany, but I refused to go. Europe received a lot of immigration. I think racism will increase because of this.
@RachelEast
@RachelEast Жыл бұрын
I found it very interesting that the first and third generation considered themselves at home in Germany. Only the second generation said in the interview that Turkey was his home. I believe this must be the result of a couple things. The first generation was invited to Germany to work, while the second generation was just there by default of coming there with his parents. The second generation gentleman probably experienced a greater deal of discrimination. The latter generation member has grown up as a member of an advancing German society with less discrimination. I would be curious to know if either generation regrets the German move.
@agnesguerry4783
@agnesguerry4783 3 жыл бұрын
Turkish immigrants brought delicious well seasoned food!
@powasjington4262
@powasjington4262 3 жыл бұрын
And you Germans brought your foods to America and gave us the hamburger and the hot dog!
@agnesguerry4783
@agnesguerry4783 3 жыл бұрын
@@powasjington4262 Don't forget the Budweiser to wash it all down!
@lionhagenmiller4776
@lionhagenmiller4776 3 жыл бұрын
What ? I thought hamburger is the most usa thing you‘ll get
@hfur7758
@hfur7758 3 жыл бұрын
@@lionhagenmiller4776 ITS self-explanatory. Guten Apatit..
@AlexHoward-yu3dz
@AlexHoward-yu3dz Жыл бұрын
I find it very interesting how much the first generation of workers cared for their children and future descendants and how much the third generation respects the earlier generations for moving to Germany. I also find it interesting how the first generation seemed to value Germany as their home because it gave them an opportunity to succeed while the second generation worker viewed Turkey as his home because of where his family is from. What each person and generation values as home seems to vary but all of the generations of immigrants still feel torn between their culture decades later.
@jdrudolfp2
@jdrudolfp2 3 жыл бұрын
There has been a shift of paradigm in local's mind from heartfelt welcome attitude during grandparents generation and the next. It is not for no reason that the 2nd generation express his many experiences of being treated different than he expected to be. Such as applying for a position of higher stature. This i also felt after living in Germany from 2004 to 2021.
@elisabettai2053
@elisabettai2053 2 жыл бұрын
That's a typical hassle of second generation at any developed countries except in UK and in the USA.
@toobeast5485
@toobeast5485 2 жыл бұрын
@@elisabettai2053 depends on which State you live in and what region of the UK. To generalise a whole population fails to focus on major issues in those countries.
@eshnahira2776
@eshnahira2776 Жыл бұрын
It is so interesting to see how the first generation workers actually feel. The first generation workers had more of a welcoming experience, and the second generation workers had a more tough experience. I thought that it would be the opposite because usually the more past you go into life, the harder it was for people to fit in. I want to know what caused this specific contrast between both generations to feel this way. Personally for me, I know that my first generation grandparents had a harder time fitting in, rather than my second generation parents.
@martagallo690
@martagallo690 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting documentary from Deutsche Welle. Difficult decision to leave the country to go to another country, different language, customs and religion. Greetings from Medellín. Colombia. 🇨🇴
@jerrytai5714
@jerrytai5714 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this story and the video! It's very emotional to many people. I see lots of positive sides to the effect of the immigrants, although there were some hiccups in the process. They are talking about "heimat" (home) a lot and it is true that we feel wherever we are most comfortable, where our family and loved ones live, where we feel secure and can h enjoy life, that is our home. Again, love this story. Big cheers!
@Fuad_Haciyev57
@Fuad_Haciyev57 2 жыл бұрын
Germany existed for a centuries without Turkish influence or in "a boring way" as they say and made a large contribution to world's politics, culture, sсience and technology.
@saraa338
@saraa338 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you generalizing everything!! Chill bruh,they are from another culture from another part of the world,you can't blame someone just because of their point of view about "whether something is boring or not"?!
@Fuad_Haciyev57
@Fuad_Haciyev57 2 жыл бұрын
@@saraa338 I don't blame anyone. I just express my point of view.
@ashokathegreat4534
@ashokathegreat4534 2 жыл бұрын
Turks never contributed to science, technology......go read their history. They were plundering nomads, and people in Turkey now are a mix of those nomads with eastern european peoples like Bulgarians
@dailybls
@dailybls 2 ай бұрын
'centuries' ? No. Germany only had a significant contribution for one or two centuries. Before they were busy sacking Rome or something.
@Fuad_Haciyev57
@Fuad_Haciyev57 2 ай бұрын
@@dailybls I don't mean economy I mean culture such as paintings of Albrecht Dürer in 15-th century, music of Johann Sebastian Bach in 17-th century etc.
@sedecim
@sedecim 3 жыл бұрын
I am sorry but this is not starting or dealing with the historical relationship between Germany and the ottoman Empire. Do better research.
@vipravlipare1468
@vipravlipare1468 Жыл бұрын
It was cool that the Turkish community in Germany was sharing their experiences. Through the sources that I have read, it seemed like the racism toward the Turkish community was more heavily influenced in the text. I did not know that the first wave of immigrants was viewed positively because of the booming economy. I did know there is currently a bad view of the Turkish community, but I want to know how much. The older couple wanted to live where their children lived and had lived in Germany so much that they were immersed in German culture. I want to know how many Turkish Germans would rather live in Turkey.
@vegvisirnewera
@vegvisirnewera 3 жыл бұрын
Politics, politics, i tried several times to get a chance, but i couldnt get it. Bcoz im from another country. Its just huge political plays
@hunterrenae1962
@hunterrenae1962 Жыл бұрын
I found this video very interesting! I found it fascinating to compare the three different generations of the turkish immigrants. They all had very different opinions on living in Germany at the time. The first generation workers felt at home in hermany because they had been there for 63 years and basically knew nothing else or how life was before Germany. The second generation workers considered Turkey to be their actual home. An example of this is how the son loved living in Turkey because he considered it to be his home.Whereas the grandson loved Germany and considered that his home. I would like to know more about how different generations feel about the transition to Germany and if they preferred their like in turkey over Germany due to the workforce or family life?
@hasanchoudhury5401
@hasanchoudhury5401 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Turkish people, the German people their culture ethics hardworking and heritage ! I hope they assimilate and the Turks and the German people keep harmony with each other as they have been friends for a long time. Turks and Germans make excellent workers and are disciplined people from my observation. Germans and Turks are the most successful proud people as well and have to assimilate their immigrants as we are doing in the USA. It is natural to have tribalism in all society but it is superpower to overcome to include all sorts of participation in the greater society. That is what makes great people. Best regards.
@oscarisopthebest3424
@oscarisopthebest3424 2 жыл бұрын
No people of any country should be assimilated no matter what. Yes,you do need to adapt and respect the culture and other stuff of where you live, but you dont need to forget your own either.
@MelvinFalcon-kx3pl
@MelvinFalcon-kx3pl Жыл бұрын
I Found it very interesting how the welcoming feeling slowly went declining through the Generations. I feel like here in the U.S it is quite similar but now its more accepted then before. so you could say here in the U.S it was the opposite of Germany, not welcomed initially but now accepted. I thinks its amazing what parents were welling to do for their children. Modern day this is happening all over the world , glad this is getting its recognition and awareness it deserves. It's amazing how much people can tolerate and how they were welling to put up with it all for a greater future and the vision they had that kept them pushing.
@oa2256
@oa2256 Жыл бұрын
the first generation was welcomed because they were very much needed and people new that. as the need for new guest workers declined they were less welcomed by Germans which is expected. it's like having a horse at home when you already have a car now. in the past horses were needed and looked after. their services, contrubutions were appreciated by humans. but now having motor vehicles, a horse for a typical German household will be nothing but a pain in the back.
@ebrimadem5287
@ebrimadem5287 Жыл бұрын
the way they treat Syrian here in turkiye initially they were very welcome but now they are hatted
@TURUKKİTURAN
@TURUKKİTURAN 8 күн бұрын
The situation of Turks and Syrians cannot be considered the same; even their reasons for changing countries are different.
@DragonbornOfUltimaThule
@DragonbornOfUltimaThule 2 жыл бұрын
Strangely not much German commenters here...
@name1017
@name1017 3 жыл бұрын
Funny::: for the 1st generation home = were you work and live. For the 2nd generation home = were you feel most comfortable
@ozan1516
@ozan1516 3 жыл бұрын
It has nothing to do about generation it changes to person to person and even so what do u mean by your comment its non sense.
@Traumstunde
@Traumstunde 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we grew up with sayings like: "Islam, a danger for Germany". It is normal, if uneducated people saying those things. But it was work of intellectuals, it was headlines on newspapers, on TV. Like Hannah Arendt said: the intellectual people was the problem. She was right
@vladtheimpaler5454
@vladtheimpaler5454 2 жыл бұрын
Those uneducated are more smart and educated than highest intellectuals in turkey
@hasseaouled6032
@hasseaouled6032 2 жыл бұрын
2:05 beautiful eyes
@erectilereptile7383
@erectilereptile7383 Жыл бұрын
He got it from mongols
@samankucher5117
@samankucher5117 4 ай бұрын
lol no .
@michaelbrisard9913
@michaelbrisard9913 Жыл бұрын
I find it very interesting how one event of letting guest workers from Turkey had so much effect on a country in ethnicity and work. I think it's amazing how many Turkish people were given a second chance and found a new life in Germany. I wonder why the second generation of Turkish immigrants face more discrimination. Also why is it expected that they must work hard for their livelihood. I feel that the people with Turkish roots have earned and made Germany into what it is now. Without the guest workers many ethnic Germans would not be as prosperous, so I think it's only right for everyone to work equally.
@ryankb3320
@ryankb3320 2 жыл бұрын
This video was very interesting, one of the most interesting things about this video is the sacrifices the parents were willing to make for their children. Many of the workers that immigrated from Turkey to Germany did it with their children's lives in their minds, in Germany, they could get educated and attempt to make a better future for themselves. I also found it interesting how each person's choice of what "home" is. In the video both the first and third-generation Turkish immigrants stated that Germany is their home while the second generation said while he likes Germany, Turkey will forever be his home. I was also intrigued that at first the Turkish workers were welcomed, however, over time they began facing issues and racism. The first-generation immigrants talked about how they were invited over to their boss's household and were very welcomes within German society as they were assisting with the development of the nation, however, the third-generation immigrant stated there was racism he faced especially in school.
@myyap5991
@myyap5991 3 жыл бұрын
I'm watching from.Philippines❤❤❤❤
@namae8
@namae8 3 жыл бұрын
@@crazypasta7749 du bist nicht deutscher
@hello.itsme.5635
@hello.itsme.5635 3 жыл бұрын
@@crazypasta7749 Don't listen to this troll. We Germans are welcoming to any people and ethnicity.
@hello.itsme.5635
@hello.itsme.5635 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your interest in Germany
@hello.itsme.5635
@hello.itsme.5635 3 жыл бұрын
@@crazypasta7749 Your mother will keep cleaning your toilet til you're 18. So you're good for another 10 years. Then you'll become an alcoholic and live of German welfare.
@EdgelordOfEdginess
@EdgelordOfEdginess 3 жыл бұрын
@@hello.itsme.5635 *Anyone who respects the host countries culture
@sergersgerhersh6594
@sergersgerhersh6594 3 жыл бұрын
If after 60 years in Germany and you still think yourself a turk first, then you're not really integrated.
@e.h.6698
@e.h.6698 3 жыл бұрын
If after 60 years in germany they still think of me as a turk first, then they really are part of the problem.
@tengrici431
@tengrici431 3 жыл бұрын
so what? then they are not integrated. 150 years ago people would not consider themselves as germans but rather as prussians, bavarians, saxons etc.
@hfur7758
@hfur7758 3 жыл бұрын
All over the world it's the same . People put there ID stamp first and foremost
@younggilbert9084
@younggilbert9084 2 жыл бұрын
@@e.h.6698 this is true, identity and integration is a 2 way thing.
@spaghettiisyummy.3623
@spaghettiisyummy.3623 2 жыл бұрын
@@tengrici431 They were Successfully Integrated. And they merged as a Single country!
@gordonremsey8055
@gordonremsey8055 3 ай бұрын
All I'll say as a wild card opinion from a clueless Irish man who was on holidays in East Berlin, the Turks where a lovely bunch, no hatred or you could say dodginess. Very welcoming and generally very laid back people. To me even while on the U Ban i didnt see much animosity between Germans and Turks. Honestly not too sure exactly what part of the Eastern city I was in names wise but again I've no complaints they were all lovely people.
@abc_cba
@abc_cba 3 жыл бұрын
Atleast care to recognise the Armenian, Greek and Assyrian genocide and move towards making your land of origin (Turkey) accept it. That's a humble request.
@sysprogrammer1
@sysprogrammer1 3 жыл бұрын
you mean the western and russian influence to revolt and divide Ottoman empire and its consequences, right?
@LegendNinja41
@LegendNinja41 3 жыл бұрын
nope. Turkey recognizes that hundreds of thousand of Armenians died in 1915 but it's not a genocide. Armenians unfortunately paid a heavy price for trying to destabilize the Ottoman Empire and help the biggest enemy (at that time) Russia. No one says it never happend, people just don't classify it as an Genocide.
@S.Solmazturk
@S.Solmazturk 3 жыл бұрын
humble request to call our ancestors which fought for their land and dignity war criminal murderers? Classic indian troll.
@hovonbogosin8736
@hovonbogosin8736 3 жыл бұрын
@@S.Solmazturk what you call a homeland is the land of people you massacre for centuries. Turks not just exterminated them slowly but heavy taxed them for their religion and ethnicity. The worse of all you are proud of your criminal past and glorify it making radicular excuses!
@S.Solmazturk
@S.Solmazturk 3 жыл бұрын
@@hovonbogosin8736 cry me a river. Conquerors were relatively nice to them for a millenia until their betrayal. They should be thankful, at least most of them kept their lives and living in rich western countries. Russia, France, England etc. Would exterminate them.
@KanKubrat1
@KanKubrat1 9 ай бұрын
This is an interview that want to promote the turkish nationalism and shovinism as something good, cause that is the message from it.
@garychin5321
@garychin5321 Жыл бұрын
As a point of academic knowledge; I know that there is a substantial Turkish Community in Germany; NOT that any of us are particularly wealthy these days.....but as an appeal to our broad humanity; I hope the Turkish and Syrian Community in Western Countries would gather together and help out with the Earthquake we have Just had on the 05 and 06th Feb. 2023. The wider international Community should also; get involved....contrary to what they say about the Chinese Uyghur; and Chinese links with Turkey.....China has had close links with Turkey for Hundreds of years....And I think this is an ideal time for Nationals in the Near-East and Far-East to help out in this tremendous natural disaster.... If nothing else China has the man-power and many pairs-of-hands! ♥
@dimosemperor1034
@dimosemperor1034 2 жыл бұрын
There's Also A Turkish Minority In Greece (Western Thrace) But The Turks Of Western Thrace Don't Speak Greek As Fluently As The Turks Of Germany Speak German. The Turks Of Germany Speak German So Fluently That Someone Would Consider Them Less As Turks And More As Germans.
@spaghettiisyummy.3623
@spaghettiisyummy.3623 2 жыл бұрын
Do Not Type Like This. You Are Not Suppose To Capitalize The First Letter Of EVERY Word!
@riazshaikh8108
@riazshaikh8108 2 жыл бұрын
@@spaghettiisyummy.3623 😂
@abraxas1983
@abraxas1983 3 жыл бұрын
you can still hear an accent when the second generation Turk speaks. i wonder why. and I mean it good as having an accent is sign of courage as you are speaking and learning a different language…
@hfur7758
@hfur7758 3 жыл бұрын
Accent are the product of the environment you live in. German accent from Hanover is very much different from Munchen. Like Italian s in USA still have distinct accent and so on.
@mancerayder5751
@mancerayder5751 3 жыл бұрын
This video mislabels him as 2nd generation. He was born in Turkey, therefore he is 1st generation.
@CoinEngineer00
@CoinEngineer00 2 жыл бұрын
Almanyada yabanci Turkiyede Alamanci !
@ayhancan7169
@ayhancan7169 2 жыл бұрын
Ama her iki yerde de zengin 🥴☺️
@ayhancan7169
@ayhancan7169 2 жыл бұрын
Almanlar sizi sürekli BMW'ye biniyorlar diye tanımlıyor.
@CoinEngineer00
@CoinEngineer00 2 жыл бұрын
@@ayhancan7169 ben Almanyada yasamiyorum.. Kendi ulkemde Lamborgini kullaniyorum !
@powasjington4262
@powasjington4262 3 жыл бұрын
Some of them just becoming totally German in 4-5 generations
@0700-z7g
@0700-z7g 2 жыл бұрын
Turks will not forget their rootes and traditions en culture dont worry
@powasjington4262
@powasjington4262 2 жыл бұрын
@@0700-z7g Turkey is a beautiful culture and country. As long as you have that everything is gonna be great
@windycraft8215
@windycraft8215 2 жыл бұрын
It only possible if they marry Germans, especially if their men will marry German girls.
@ad_astra468
@ad_astra468 Жыл бұрын
That’s good, that’s integration.
@nurErst0816
@nurErst0816 Жыл бұрын
@@0700-z7g i just wish women to not turn into regular sluts.
@CodyKivett
@CodyKivett Жыл бұрын
I find it interesting how in the first generation workers would feel compared to the third generation of workers. The first generation had a more of a welcoming experience compared to the second generation. It's intriguing since then in America the same ca n’t be said when it comes to social and political agreements. The newer generations partake in an analogous struggle because of prospects and prejudices similar to those that the third- generation son explained. I also relate to lodging for the country you spent the wholeness of your life in and also lodging for the country of my family and origins.
@AmayaDamon
@AmayaDamon Жыл бұрын
I found it very interesting to see the different perspectives of people and what it meant for them to be at home somewhere. “Home is where you feel the most comfortable” vs “Home is where you live and work”. I thought this different perspective was a large part of why people may feel at home in Germany versus in Turkey. I thought it was cool to see how the first generation stayed and did their job because they were thinking about their children, and then we heard from the third generation, who was grateful for their grandparents for giving them the opportunity to have a good education.
@abdoua7434
@abdoua7434 3 жыл бұрын
5:21 that to much . The reality is unfortunately different. We can see who will get the job or the apartment, you Herr Yilmaztürk or Herr Müller ...Herr Heidenreich ... 😁
@TrevorTimmons-ei6gp
@TrevorTimmons-ei6gp Жыл бұрын
This was a great video to watch to get different views on the same point in one family. As time goes on, I believe the experience we go through and hardships we endure shape our reality and feelings. The first generation of guest workers in Germany consider Germany home, because they truly understand the opportunity that was blessed to them to be constant providers for their family. The generations follow would have to work twice as hard though just to be seen as the same and could still not get a job they are more than equipped for. Are Germans hesitant about Turkish descendants in fear that their own lineage may not be as equipped?
@shashediri544
@shashediri544 2 жыл бұрын
Germany and Turkey(Ottoman empire) were allied in ww1.
@jonassamy8771
@jonassamy8771 7 ай бұрын
Turkish Germany History ❤
@luoma9040
@luoma9040 3 жыл бұрын
Now I see where the goodlooking people in Germany come from. 🤣
@АлександрКарамазов-в8с
@АлександрКарамазов-в8с 2 жыл бұрын
Bad* you mean
@luoma9040
@luoma9040 2 жыл бұрын
@@АлександрКарамазов-в8с you are right. Heard terrible stories.
@sigmacheseman
@sigmacheseman 2 жыл бұрын
you need better eyes m8
@Error_-xn7po
@Error_-xn7po 2 жыл бұрын
Us Turks are bad looking lmao
@Error_-xn7po
@Error_-xn7po 2 жыл бұрын
But so are Europeans
@nagaestepuping
@nagaestepuping 3 жыл бұрын
nice article
@GPJhala
@GPJhala 7 ай бұрын
Germany must relay on their labourers. If they invite outside people, they will create very much serious problem . Take the examples of france, Briton, Swindon
@FlyRiderFishing
@FlyRiderFishing 3 жыл бұрын
Aren't we all Turks? 🤗
@ego3025
@ego3025 3 жыл бұрын
Yaaaaaaaaaaaa nekadar tatlısınız İstanbul'a bekleriz
@sterneis1
@sterneis1 3 ай бұрын
lch bin 50% Türke und 50% Schweizer im Herzen.
@teodytrinidad9497
@teodytrinidad9497 2 жыл бұрын
The truth is Germany needed extra money. Tears tears. We conquered aphovai and saw McKinley laid dowN. Passed it to Tan for Ongpin Heri Rage Hero ism Here Here.
@teodytrinidad9497
@teodytrinidad9497 2 жыл бұрын
From Business process 10,000 for me 3,000 food 7,000 transport and transfers.
@teodytrinidad9497
@teodytrinidad9497 2 жыл бұрын
Many deductions for Health
@f4u21ramon8
@f4u21ramon8 Жыл бұрын
Colonialism turkish in europe since ottoman and now era 🤔
@marclawson2536
@marclawson2536 3 жыл бұрын
Someone in power came up with an idea and said this to himself: "Hey! Let's allow an American car maker to flood Germany with foreigners from an entirely different culture. Germans have always been cool with that sort of thing".
@GeorgeStro
@GeorgeStro 3 жыл бұрын
can you please read instead of putting translation? it i cant read small lattes.
@thifmaster1466
@thifmaster1466 3 жыл бұрын
Its more authentic this way you can hear how they are saying what they are saying and I personaly like that if you have difficulties reading the translation you can still pause the video
@test-ot1fz
@test-ot1fz 8 ай бұрын
Yeah Turks are very european Just look at how their european "brothers" treat them
@thepeff
@thepeff 3 жыл бұрын
As someone from the US these immigrants just look German to me
@oliveraparicio8464
@oliveraparicio8464 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an American like you our opinions don't matter here. Some Americans have strong regional, ethnic, and tribal identities. Not all Americans sole idenity is his nationality and their loyalty goes far beyond nationality.
@thepeff
@thepeff 3 жыл бұрын
@@oliveraparicio8464 maybe your opinion doesn't matter but I possess agency
@oliveraparicio8464
@oliveraparicio8464 3 жыл бұрын
@@thepeff Your opinion doesn't matter because its the germans that get to decide who's ethnically german and who's a german national.
@thepeff
@thepeff 3 жыл бұрын
@@oliveraparicio8464 that sounds like a very German thing to say. Which reich did you say you were from?
@hyaftbl7934
@hyaftbl7934 2 жыл бұрын
They look turkish bro
@airwriq
@airwriq 3 жыл бұрын
Does German and Turkish familiarity have anything to do with the holocausts they both commited?
@ego3025
@ego3025 3 жыл бұрын
Siz hala siyahileri dışliyosunuz,kafan nerede içtinmi daha geçen Ermenistan Azerbaycan saldirdi
@airwriq
@airwriq 3 жыл бұрын
@@ego3025 That a yes?
@liveforever9888
@liveforever9888 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, are you serious?
@tobiasboston7795
@tobiasboston7795 Жыл бұрын
One major difference between the two is that the one apologized, while the other didn't.
@mellownuance
@mellownuance 3 жыл бұрын
They brought culture calling it food would be trivializing.
@hfur7758
@hfur7758 3 жыл бұрын
Bring in Food Culture.
@cihanozel4344
@cihanozel4344 3 жыл бұрын
What is valuable in German culture? classic boring and cold. Also, I don't want to talk about the food at all.
@mimimi8238
@mimimi8238 2 жыл бұрын
@@cihanozel4344 What is valuable in Turkish culture? That is purely a matter of opinion? Everyone finds certain things better and just not so great.
@mellownuance
@mellownuance 2 жыл бұрын
@@cihanozel4344 brother Germans in my view are an amazing European nation, they have immense contribution to humanity. You pick a field and I can give you an example. Respect for each other is the basis of love and affection, isn’t that a Turkish value?
@mellownuance
@mellownuance 2 жыл бұрын
@@mimimi8238 I respect Germans, and Im sure there’re many others from oriental culture who appreciate Germans as our favorite nation from Europe.
@BigVtheVanity
@BigVtheVanity 3 жыл бұрын
I'm moving to Germany.
@kimlsnyder
@kimlsnyder 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t
@Lyricsss34
@Lyricsss34 Жыл бұрын
Wow, A lot of ChatGPT comments
@joaocantanhede8600
@joaocantanhede8600 Жыл бұрын
Muslin🤢🤢🤢
@elastokim-nova7495
@elastokim-nova7495 3 жыл бұрын
Still not "angekommen".
@isldaktivi1324
@isldaktivi1324 3 жыл бұрын
gelmeyin lan buraya
@Kaan_is_myname97
@Kaan_is_myname97 3 жыл бұрын
Senden izin mi alacaklardı :D
@teodytrinidad9497
@teodytrinidad9497 2 жыл бұрын
Due to Federal due of express
@LoveAndPeace2004
@LoveAndPeace2004 3 жыл бұрын
7:58 Mmm... Turkish food is definetely not better than German. If German food woudnt be yummy, there would be no tourists in Oktoberfest for eating Bavarian Würsten ( Sausages) Chesse and Beer
@luxploded
@luxploded 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, German food is often either "meh" or super salty. I do like Sauerkraut though
@LoveAndPeace2004
@LoveAndPeace2004 3 жыл бұрын
@@luxploded British foood is "meh" but not the German one. Btw Yes, Most of the times, German and Austrian food is kinda Salty
@S.Solmazturk
@S.Solmazturk 3 жыл бұрын
German cuisine sucks. Sorry not sorry. There is a reason why Turkish restaurants are way too popular in Germany.
@Janoip
@Janoip 3 жыл бұрын
@@S.Solmazturk Actually, in Germany only the Turkish snack bars are popular (kebab, roll) Restaurants there are also, but much less than Greek, Italian and usually sit there also rather Turks / Arabs, etc. and less the Germans. Overall, most Germans would know almost no dishes except Döner, Rollo, Börek with a few exceptions perhaps.
@iloyaa6760
@iloyaa6760 3 жыл бұрын
@@Janoip don't mean for Germany, but Turkish food is loved in the world. Even Nusret and Czn Burak are both Turkish.
@Vakti892
@Vakti892 3 жыл бұрын
Yusuf is hot
@ego3025
@ego3025 3 жыл бұрын
İrkcimisin
@tobiasboston7795
@tobiasboston7795 Жыл бұрын
@@ego3025 bruh what
@saltymcsaltface
@saltymcsaltface 3 жыл бұрын
Durkah durkah
@yeasashikder3704
@yeasashikder3704 3 жыл бұрын
Masha Allah❤️
@JV-dj2ru
@JV-dj2ru 3 жыл бұрын
In Germany, they say Deus vult
@ego3025
@ego3025 3 жыл бұрын
@@JV-dj2ru 😊 aslında bizdede massallah deninmez ama çoğumuz müslüman olduğumuz için bazı dini kelimeleri kullaniyoruz
@spaghettiisyummy.3623
@spaghettiisyummy.3623 2 жыл бұрын
@@JV-dj2ru Isn't that a French saying???
@umardaraz2736
@umardaraz2736 3 жыл бұрын
Badly done , cud hv been done more interesting
@SgtCake101
@SgtCake101 3 жыл бұрын
could you have done it better?
@umardaraz2736
@umardaraz2736 3 жыл бұрын
@@SgtCake101I think yes, god willing
@katm7576
@katm7576 3 жыл бұрын
Звездець як цікаво 😂😂😂
@ike3263
@ike3263 2 жыл бұрын
Germany also had an amazing culture!!!!!!
@ike3263
@ike3263 2 жыл бұрын
I can just say one thing and that is that Turkish values and their food is amazing!!!! Germany got the döner kebab from them which I always miss so much.
@ИванИонов-ю4ф
@ИванИонов-ю4ф Жыл бұрын
Merhaba! Турки уважают только турков! Чтобы это понять, просто поживите в Турции некоторое время. Они - очень консервативны, не уважают никакую другую религию, кроме Ислама. Могут показывать на вас пальцем и говорить yabanci открыто, ничего и никого, не стесняясь. Не церемоньтесь с ними! Кто захочет стать европейцем - останется, остальные вернутся домой, и ни в коем в случае не позволяйте продвигать им свою культуру, иначе она поглотит вас.
@user-zx1sx9bj5t
@user-zx1sx9bj5t Жыл бұрын
What..If a person doesn't respect another religion, means this disrespectful person doesn't deserve any respect himself as an individual. I do respect all religions also i am interested.
@ИванИонов-ю4ф
@ИванИонов-ю4ф Жыл бұрын
@@user-zx1sx9bj5t you understood nothing
@Razzle_Dazzle-
@Razzle_Dazzle- Жыл бұрын
till kurks sub-h 🪳😂
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