Turkiye KAAN Flies for the First Time

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[@thewayofbiutze3899]

"It's impressive-you can't just copy and paste this scale of engineering. Nocountry gives away critical technology or the thousands of components involved. It requires an insane amount of effort. Respect..."

[@Doğada_Yemek]

smart people think different.

[@Aeterna71]

Finally a people with a common sense

[@19ufuk]

Türkiye geçmiş yıllarda F16 savaş uçaklarından 160 adetin üzerinde lisans altında üretim yaptı. Skorsky S70 blackhawk.helikopterleriniden 109 adet lisans altında üretiyor ve eskiden F35 projesine 1007 adet parça üretiyordu. F35 savaş uçağında 6000 adet parçadan oluşuyor Orta gövdenin ABD' den sonraki dünyadaki tek üreticisiydi. Türk şirketi kale havacılık bütün F35lerin kablolarının tek tedarikçisiydi. Diğer Türk şirketi Alp havacılık F35 için iniş takımları, motor parçaları üretiyordu. Diger bir Türk şirketi olan Ayesaş F35 icin kokpite elektronik devre kartları üretiyordu. Dünyada uçan sivil ve asgeri her dört uçaktan birinde Türkiye' de üretilen parçalar kullanılıyor. Yani havacılık altyapısı olan bir ülke.F35 için üretim yapan bütün türk şirketleri bu bilgi ve birikimlerini artık TFX Kaan için kullanıyorlar.

[@DevInsightsLegends-lh7dn]

What about Chinese hackers?

[@_cyantist]

@@DevInsightsLegends-lh7dneven if they DID get F-35 blueprints its not a simple thing to build an aircraft

[@verteidigungsindustriedert2175]

Firstflight. At low speed and air pressure it is completely normal that the Fly by Wire system compensates by using the rear rudders. This shows that the system is working properly. Look at the plane, it stays stable because of that. The size of the tail fins is the size of the f16 wing, the connection architecture of the tail wing is not found in any aircraft that I know of.

[@technonatorr]

Finally I saw someone explain this correctly. The plane took off without afterburner.

[@bayulgen7307]

​@@technonatorrnasıl art yakıcı olmadan havalandı anlamadım üzgünüm

[@technonatorr]

@@bayulgen7307 Link koyamıyorum, "afterburner" yaz google imajlarda arat sonra Kaan'nın nasıl kalktığına bir bak.

[@umitkiziltas8379]

@@bayulgen7307 ucagi illa hizli ve acele bir sekilde kaldirmak istemiyorsan, niye art yakici gerekdirsin ki? Hollywood filmi degil ki bu. Basit bir test ucusu.

[@NeedForDrone]

@@bayulgen7307 Motor tam yük gerektirmeden kalkabildi demek istedi.

[@baburo101]

Even if the KAAN fighter isn't "there" yet, it's a huge step forward for Türkiye and many other countries.

[@TomislavPuklin-x5m]

People often decontextualize these things. Like yeah. Of course it most likely isn't on a level of aircraft that had 70 years of evolution behind them and like 100x the budget. You always start somewhere, but the benefit of starting late is that you can learn on the mistakes that those before you, the pioneers, made and progress much faster to catch up.

[@enginproject]

First of all hello from Turkiye. Thanks for the short review. All parts except the engine and ejection seat are domestic production. The engines are taken from the F16 and the ejection seat is also British production. The first prototype you watched is a 4plus generation aircraft. The Block10 version of the aircraft will be delivered to the Turkish air force in 2028. Turkish produced engines will be integrated into aircraft as of 2030 and will have vector thrusting feature. Turkiye produced a lot of parts in the F 35 program and produced its own F16s and Egyptian F16s. This is not our first jet plane. You can take a look at the Hurjet plane. Therefore, it is not a country that is inexperienced in the aviation industry.

[@highway9patrol]

I see a lot of comments saying it looks like the F22 or F35… 🤦 Even today almost all cars look the same because when you enter your design needs to fighter jet recipe function, and the result becomes this!

[@ibrahimayn2679]

Çok düşündün mü? Veya birden mi geldi aklına

[@highway9patrol]

@@ibrahimayn2679Sana giren cikan ne yegenim?

[@sparrowlt]

Similar solutions for the same problems

[@uzay1030]

​@@ibrahimayn2679 adam haklı, zoruna giden ne oldu bu cümlede.

[@verteidigungsindustriedert2175]

Bei geringer Geschwindigkeit und Luftdurchzugsdruck ist es völlig Normal das das Fly by Wire system es ausgleicht in dem sie die hinteren Ruder nutzt. Das zeigt das das system Richtig funktuniert. Schaut das Flugzeug an es bleibt stabil deswegen.

[@serkangundogdu1743]

Uçağın test pilotu da aynı açıklamayı yaptı

[@DevriAlem999]

Do you know? Turkish professor developed 5G technology. Also Turkish scientist Fighter plane Ram (Radiation-absorbent material) paint too. Türkiye are the biggest drone sellers.

[@andydufresne431]

This aircraft may look like F22 but this similarity come from being steatlh form for a twin engine air supremacy design. İt is actually F22 lookin F35 KAAN will be indigenously equipped with: (some of them are already done, some under development) - Tulgar HMD - Toygun EOTS - Karat IRST (nose ) - ECM integrated AESA radar (estimately 2000 T/R mods) - sensor fusion - 360 degree high situational awareness [by radars or sensors(DAS) not clear yet] - internal weapon bays: 2 bwr + 4 bvr - 120x2=240 volt generators as amount of energy F35 needs - fully digital glass cockpit - ram coating - low IR and EMR sign - data link and communication with other turkish platforms - indigenous avionics, FMC and FCC - 36k lbs x 2 thrust power ( in 2030) Turkish aviaiton is ambitious and needs to be appreciated.

[@spacetragedy]

The UK should put pride aside and join the Kaan program as a full partner. Well done Turkey👏

[@Mthammere2010]

No, there needs to be more independence in the aerospace industry.

[@mr.tobacco1708]

UK already helping the Kaan with BAE systems and Rolls Royce.

[@user-ud5vf5mm7o]

​@@mr.tobacco1708tam değil, Rolls Royce motor konusunda anlaşamadı

[@SC-vw1nx]

@@mr.tobacco1708that’s not true! They couldn’t make an agreement! It’s over

[@jacobbaumgardner3406]

That would make no sense since the UK has a far more advanced aerospace industry and is working on a 6th gen design with Japan and Italy as the head of the GCAP program.

[@SC-vw1nx]

Don’t be jealous mad , your laugh tell a lot ! Test plot already mentioned, stabs perfectly worked under software as its designed and planned through ! You said not look good , I believe it looks amazing war-able aggressive machine between f22 and f35 !

[@publicname]

I would refer to it as 4.75gen until the engines are changed. However, it seemed nice to me with sensor fusion, RAM coating and internal weapon bays. Way better than Russian SU-57s tho.

[@Doğada_Yemek]

The F118: Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit also uses F110 and it's stealth.. what are you talking ?

[@sparrowlt]

In the B-2 the engine is concealed inside including the exhaust who like the F-117 go throught special exhaust nozzles.. here there are just there like in the F-15 so there is not any thermal concealing at all and the nozzles are not "stealth" ..

[@yusufkayhan6105]

Amerikalılarınkindende iyi o tek kral 👑

[@sparrowlt]

@@yusufkayhan6105Pero si apenas acaba de volar ... mejor en que? en mover los estabilizadores como si estuviera a punto de estamparse contra la pista?

[@publicname]

@@yusufkayhan6105 Be smart, not funny.

[@sadk_6939]

Why does it look like an F-22? It's the same as saying why planes look like birds

[@mr.tobacco1708]

When I spoke to one of the engineers that worked on KAAN's design at Teknofest, he told me that F22 is the PEAK design that is why most of the 5th gens look a like F-22 because it is very hard to top 22s design.

[@sparrowlt]

Same sollutions for same problems?

[@hellothere1656]

The thing is Turkiye had atleast 3 seperate designs for the Kaan. After putting them through wind tunnel and stealth tests, they kept finding this particluar design to be the best, which just happens to look like the f22.

[@gultekinozkurt8731]

Guys, this is the very first prototype built just to prove it can fly. Be sure that operational version is going to be way different than this one.

[@paulbrooks4395]

The history of the stabilizers on the F-22 flapping uncontrollably is a fascinating story. I believe it also happened during the early days of the program.

[@spiderh]

In KAAN, stabilizers controlled by AI.

[@mmad2822]

They crap 💩 you but they don’t tell their crap

[@mustafaisik206]

Watch the first flight of the F-22 and the first flight of Kaan, then see the difference

[@paulbrooks4395]

​@@mustafaisik206The "early days of the program" was in reference to the YF-22 and technically not the same aircraft (you're right, the F-22 was in better shape). However, I will nitpick and point out that the KAAN is currently in a state that is not much different than the YF-22 (though the Turks may have been able to learn from the YF-22 and their software could be better off because of that mishap!). The YF-22 mishap is recorded as a PIO, though the PIO was only possible due to how the FBW was written. In that case, the pitch inputs were rate limited and more than 180 degrees out of phase with the pilot input, along with the controls allowing for much greater deflection (based on the control state--there were 4, IIRC). It's possible (though I am not a KAAN expert) that their software allows for both high rates and deflections while gear is down. I can't say whether that's good or bad, as there are arguments to be made for higher authority (something like AGCAS or a pilot mistake), and against--excess sensitivity when it shouldn't be needed (in theory).

[@TURKOPOL46]

The size of the tail fins is the size of the f16 wing, the connection architecture of the tail wing is not found in any aircraft that I know of. It is the first time it has been tried, and the movements of these tail wings are characteristic of the aircraft. This wobble is caused by the flight control computer due to low pressure

[@b7knuckles7]

These Americans are hilarious when it comes to critiquing foreign aircraft. Edit : no need for seriousness in this video, none of these gents are test pilots. They needed a weekly topic to critique on.

[@SC-vw1nx]

Yeah they still think , the USA is greatest !

[@redman1249]

They're former military pilots.

[@b7knuckles7]

@@redman1249 I know, I met one of them and I work with fighter pilots when it comes to training requirements

[@Hhffffghnn87]

​@@redman1249eski pilot olmakla test pilotu aynı şey değil test pilotu her uçağı kullanır onlar tek ve birkaç😂

[@ahmettezal]

They did not expect this from Türkiye after F-35 removal

[@Tiger313NL]

They want to make their own, that's fine. But with the weaknesses in the S-400 systems showing now, I think Turkey shot itself in the foot with that one.

[@hellothere1656]

​@@Tiger313NLThe s400 isn't exactly weak though. Yes it struggles to shoot down Ukrainian drones, but the main reason Turkiye bought it was for anti balistic missile defence. They have their indigenous HISAR SAM for air defence against drones and fighter jets and the Kaan and Kizilelma will give Turkiye a serious aerial edge. It also helps that a lot of countries are gonna want to buy Kaan and Kizilelma since they don't trust the US because of its constant sanctions threat.

[@RedMentalHM66]

@@Tiger313NL We wanted the patriots remember you guys stıll dıdnt gave our f35 money remember what do you expect when you guys fund and train terrorists in syria and ıraq PYD-PKK-YPG organisation maybe you should ask your government why we act agaınst them like snake and trying coup attempt ın 2016

[@seyfo.03]

@@Tiger313NLWe already copied the S400 technology and made our own and better version. I tought it's called Siper hava savunma füzesi.

[@Tiger313NL]

@@seyfo.03 Good stuff. :)

[@iceman_2]

It is definitely much better than the Russian Su-57s.

[@0cu0]

If we are talking aesthetics, the Su-57 is even better than the raptor. Not the performance obviously. And KAAN needs for sure some fine tuning to be eye-pleasing.

[@turkcanatilir3943]

SU-57 is a beautiful fighter that I totally respect as a Turk.

[@williamdavis9562]

@iceman_2. You're basing this off what exactly? This plane isn't even done yet, no one knows how good or bad it is really going to be. Maybe it will be better, maybe it will be worse, we really don't know. But claiming you definitely know is insanity. Even the guys building it don't definitely know that.

[@adnancam3382]

KAAN uçağına aynı zamanda 4 farklı hedefi vurma kapasitesi ile buna eş olarak Kızılelma gibi uçakları kullanabilme yeteneğine sahip sistem olacak. Amerika ucaginda olan 6 tane füze alma imkani varken Kaan 8 tanedir.Havalandığında 100 km mesafedeki hedefi vurma imkanı olacaktır.

[@kittyhawk9707]

oo a non US country develops it's own aircraft .... LETS TAKE THE PISS .. Point and Laugh .. .. Why all the hate??? .. It's Turkeys plane ... so what...

[@adembeydola1288]

thats typical western arrogance

[@martgb96]

This take is the exact one they are taking the piss out of when they mention they get braindead hate mail.

[@hellothere1656]

​@@adembeydola1288Yeah they were laughing when China built its j20 but after seeing the Chinese suddenly have 200 of them built in a few years with better engines, they got them seriously scared.

[@SlimFitBilim]

%70'i yerde bakım süreciyle yatan f35'i yırtacağı için telaşeleri. Bayraktar gibi vurmaya geliyor...

[@redman1249]

Yeah with BAE's $100 million help.

[@mamamia6513]

Turks become superpower many time through history mostly bec their geopolitical advantage over any nation. Being middle man in the most importnant trade routes of the world puts you in a unfair advantage. Turkiye will become one of the strongest power in the world its innevitable history teached us that way.

[@ysnogn]

we are the target of many actors. we have paid the price for hundreds of years to stay here, and still paying

[@metinozkantr]

Babies with a history of 250 years are calling a nation of 5000 years old small. We are talking about the only nation to which the USA has paid tribute in its history. Know your place.

[@GEO-PAN]

😂 since when does Turkey have a 5.000 year history???

[@tydefence]

​​​@@GEO-PANamerica history : 1550-2024😅.While the Turks were on campaign in the Middle East, a place called America had not been discovered. Do u understand? At that time, America was even paying taxes to the Ottoman commander 🎉And they still say Türkiye is small. according to what? Türkiye is the only state. It is not a union of 30 states like America. Okay? 😤One day those states will be free🎉🎉

[@turko4ever7252]

@@GEO-PANjust to compare Turkish army exist since 2200 AD“

[@mehmetkartal5917]

@@GEO-PANdünyada ilk düzenli ordu sistemini kuran Türklerdir senin çapın onu arastirmaya yetmez

[@hertzwave8001]

They were obviously taking the pss, but anyway, size has nothing to do with age, otherwise korea(?) and china would both be the biggest countries

[@caucasianrize53]

You just proved the stereotypes about Americans again. If Turkey were in Europe, it would be the biggest country. It's twice as big as Germany. The HUD is housed in the helmet. All information is projected virtually into the helmet. The TULGAR Helmet Mounted Display System, which will be used by Turkish Fighter KAAN pilots.

[@benokanruzgar8863]

Well, at least front gear did not collapsed. 😅 much better record than F-35B.

[@jameson1239]

After one flight I would hope not

[@calneigbauer7542]

Looks like it’s the f-16s gear anyway

[@calneigbauer7542]

@@phillipbanes5484 you would know better than me from a glance they did

[@benokanruzgar8863]

@@calneigbauer7542 according to media, landing gear is locally made for the type.

[@bsenyuva]

​@@calneigbauer7542landing gears developed and produced by a Turkish company called TAAC Aerospace Technologies...

[@RedTail1-1]

Thought I was going crazy for like 5 minutes upon seeing this in the recommended section. Then I remembered that you both have separate channels and upload the same videos.

[@mustafayilmaz9973]

If the Turks built this plane in such a short time, we will see this plane as a 6th generation plane ten years later.

[@dsfs17987]

that's not how that works, putting something together by copying and borrowing isn't nearly the same as making something that can counter future threats and remain relevant for reasonable amount of time, and you have to make them in large enough numbers before they do become irrelevant, because the enemy will learn and counter just look at russia and SU-57, all that engineering and manufacturing foundation, heaps of oil money and they made it so stealthy that nobody has seen one 2 years into a real war right across their border, and they can operate them from relative safety, yet - no show, and I think we all know the reason why they are using older gen planes and letting those get shot out of the sky in essence - all this 5th and 6th gen fighter stuff has just been about money laundering all this time and "prestige", not actual combat usefulness

[@0cu0]

@@dsfs17987 If you equate 5Gen with stealth you could be right but I think the avionics are the key-feature there. Not so much for the F-22, more like the F-35 capabilities. Connecting with different types of aircrafts/drones and even Anti-aircraft defenses on the fly is what makes it so significant.

[@yusufkayhan6105]

Offf CoUrse 😂😂

[@kurt.1453]

Çalışmalara 6 nesil uçak için başlandığını söylüyorlar

[@mustafayilmaz9973]

Kann 6 nesil ucak. Insansiz ucaklar ile ucacak. Cok daha özellikleri var.

[@erhanolmez1428]

The western world, especially the USA, who copied the Messerschmitt ME 262 jet, calls us copyists.😂

[@ThomasHendrickson]

you mean when germany copied the british, who designed the jet engine first?

[@allienmecaca]

​@@ThomasHendrickson those two were developed around the same time.

[@Cozak360]

Design work for the P-80 started in 1943, and it doesn't even look like the ME262.

[@ThomasHendrickson]

@@allienmecacastill, the brits did it first

[@allienmecaca]

​@@ThomasHendrickson but that does not mean germans copied them

[@tatangasakarya8057]

an average american intelligence doesn't surprise me anymore. even much smaller countries like sweden can build fighter jets named gripen. can you believe that ? does the size really matters for you ?

[@azizsipahi8332]

Amerikalıların çoğu embesil düzeyde bilgi sahibidirler Dünya ile ilgili.

[@fersahahmet9597]

Denying is a level at accepting the truth and then comes anger

[@gryrvn]

sure sure... 🥱

[@mrnotsocelever]

Too many biased red necks here. Even F-35's stealth RAM paint “founder” (read here twice) is a Turkish engineer “Ergun Kirlikovali”. Douglas, you're right about your comment that you're not a smart person. I agree! However, you could at least know this is not a simulation. It's a maiden flight and the flight computer (FLCS) calculates the weight / thrust / wind and prepares for the adaptation. The FLCS is actually in full control during the take-off.

[@calneigbauer7542]

Kaan is already outdated before it even had a test flight it’s over priced players with setbacks and most critical parts come from outside countries

[@alihanaydogdu6158]

​@@calneigbauer7542 No only engine and ejection seat (for now).

[@calneigbauer7542]

@@alihanaydogdu6158 really Azerbaijani Ireland and Germany all supplied components

[@alihanaydogdu6158]

@@calneigbauer7542 Ah yes, i see.

[@spiderh]

@@calneigbauer7542 Germany makes secret ambargo to Turkiye. Germany does not give any thing, even own sin.

[@hakanatila3950]

KAAN's height is 21 meters and his wingspan is 14 meters. . For now, it is a significantly larger aircraft than the other 5th Generation aircraft to which it resembles only in design. We will see together what they will fill this huge body with and what the Turkish Air Force wants from KAAN.

[@tobi2233]

Height 21 meters? You sure?

[@williamdavis9562]

@@tobi2233 21 meters high is a tad bit hard to believe. I too want to know if the OP is sure of that number. I think he meant 21 meters long

[@FTC207]

@@williamdavis956221m long 6m height

[@ratsuay]

The best explanation for this aircraft resembling the F22 is as follows: Engineering has compelled ancient civilizations to construct pyramid structures independently across different continents without awareness of each other. Therefore, 5th generation fighter jets resemble each other for the same reason.

[@gundogusu]

Absolutely amazing plane. I had watched the first flights of other warplanes, but none of them had succeeded on their first try, including the F22. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@qushu]

Thanks for the comments! This eagle is actually a test bed. As far as I know, many systems (e.g. Radar) are still not integrated. They will get integrated then we will have a better idea how stable this bird is. I guess many systems; even though competent on US scale; not as small as US counterparts that's why the bird is big. Once we start to produce the electronics and mechatronics with a smaller footprint, I believe the bird will get smaller too.

[@yusufkayhan6105]

Büyük çünkü o bir karargah birçok uçan cismi yönetecek ayrıca büyük çünkü o bir kral 👑

[@publicname]

@@yusufkayhan6105 I'm pretty sure it will get shortened in production, looking at its take off tells me a lot.

[@alterwalter6907]

The fighter jet is not so big because the parts produced are larger than those produced by the USA. It's just illogical what you're thinking. With today's technology it is no problem to produce small parts

[@kazimkorkmaz]

UGHI! HA PARLATO L'ESPERTO.

[@baileyparadis1815]

The surface flutter definitely strikes me as a flight control law issue... I'm also surprised to see what appear to be leading edge flaps aren't deflected at all on takeoff, very little trailing edge flap deflection too. They got it off the ground safely at least. If we use the F-22s track record as an indicator, flight control system related problems and crashes will probably happen early on in development.

[@anavgeekspassion5727]

Leading edge slats were fixed in place for this flight on purpose from what I know.

[@verteidigungsindustriedert2175]

Bei geringer Geschwindigkeit und Luftdurchzugsdruck ist es völlig Normal das das Fly by Wire system es ausgleicht in dem sie die hinteren Ruder nutzt. Das zeigt das das system Richtig funktuniert. Schaut das Flugzeug an es bleibt stabil deswegen.

[@Mthammere2010]

The F-14 had huge Stabs and rudder too.

[@19ufuk]

Yapay zeka kontrolünde uçak kalktı ve indi. Dengelemeyi de o yaptı. Uçakta otomatik kalkış ve iniş modları mevcut. Bu uçakta F35' den daha fazla satır kod yazıldı.

[@baileyparadis1815]

@@verteidigungsindustriedert2175 Hi. I'm very rusty when it comes to german, so I'm not entirely sure if you're commenting on the horizontal stabilizer flutter, or the amount of flaps. If you are talking about the severe horizontal stabilizer flutter being a common feature of fly by wire aircraft.... it isn't.

[@abdulmismail]

The way those stabs moved, I assumed it was like flapping its wings so it would take off.

[@AA-or4dt]

I don’t think Wombat should ever try and visit Türkiye now 😂

[@mrttrm9504]

🇹🇷KAAN🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

[@jaguar3703]

The reason why the rear rudders was going up and down on take off was because the pilot was waving at the engineers below this was announced on Turkish news ….

[@turkcanatilir3943]

Thermal concealing & dissipation features were planned for the block 20 stage, which will fly with domestic engines that will produce 2 X 35 thousand pounds of thrust. This is just the 1st prototype and it did the job properly. Next 7 prototypes are on production.

[@ahmadalastal5303]

There are 5000 engineers working on this project and the project is moving fast, I expect the full version will appear by end of 2026 and after that they will integrate weapons, not to mention other excellent aviation programs in development such as project MIUS, what Turkey will gain from its aerospace programs will make it the best in region and in Europe by 2030, just sit and watch.

[@bantip5499]

They wanted it, so they built it. Take notes, Europe (and yes, I am European..). It doesnt even really matter what this thing can do. Like China, they wlll build their next generation out of this one, which will be better.. This is what their "democracy" can do: Not thinking in 4-year-terms, but in twenty-year-steps. On a side note, ignore the hate mail if it comes from turks. Their biggest problem is their exaggerated and unhealthy nationalism. On the other hand, exactly this nationalism contibuted a large part in getting this jet airborne.

[@xchampionx9]

I don't like Erdogan and believe or not I don't care but he has won every fücking election in those years like an unbeaten boxer. İn the last one there was only 2 points between the other guy and in the second round he has won it again. On the other hand yes Turks are very nationalistic and we have our own reasons for it as a country or people next to Russia and middle eastern swamp.

[@xchampionx9]

It would be our pleasure to see your more democratic "EuRoPeAN VaLuES 5th gen version bruh.

[@XTRaptor]

@@xchampionx9I’m pretty sure the Europeans and Japan for that matter are attempting to completely skip 5th gen in order to catch up with our 6th gen fighters that’s are already in the works. So you won’t ever see a European 5th gen jet.

[@xchampionx9]

@@XTRaptor Good luck and let's hope you guys won't decide to skip the 6th and try a 7th or 8th Gen. 😊 Joke aside; CEO of TUSAŞ [creators of KAAN] said two important things in his latest interview on TV. 1st - We've already started to work on a new 6th Gen. 2nd - It is not impossible to evolve the KAAN into a 6th Gen fighter with some more effort. (as an extra note) ++++++++++++++++ 👇

[@xchampionx9]

@XTRaptor BTW, for the 6th Gen, you're going to need some unmanned assets around the main platform/asset/fighter as you know, otherwise it will be another 5th or 5+ Gen in an optimistic scenario.👇 Like ours "ANKA 3" [an unmanned deep strike jet with a flying wing form from TUSAŞ again] or "KIZILELMA" (Baykar's latest and the most significant project so far [TB2's creator]) unmanned fighter jet, which is about to get into serial production phase next year. GOOD LOOK with all that stuff and rest assured I'm sure your VaLuEs and DeMoCrAcY can help.🙃

[@emirhang5987]

Greetings from Turkey/Turkiye. As a aviation nerd teen I love watching ur videos!

[@mehmetvergili3833]

Man it is almost f22 shape I really didnt get what is too big. Are you saying f22 design also not good enough ?

[@Weis151]

actually ı doesnt know ur name but ı really want a video from u about KAAN but without making jokes and seriously and after learned everything about project

[@Weis151]

cause when u making this video . u even doesnt know about helmet u making video for joking without good information

[@Weis151]

and this project started at 2011 . everbody thinking this project started new

[@Donybike]

well didn't F-22 actually crash after manically flipping and flopping its stabs in one of its first flights? So I guess turks are doing a good job at copying the jet

[@manfredvonturk4849]

You gonna understand how serious KAAN is when he kicks ur F-22's ass in NATO Excercises:) KAAN is desined to be a flying command center for KIZIL ELMA Unmanned Jet Fighters. İmagine that 4 KAAN is commanding 12 KIZIL ELMA's and they are all coming after u. WHAT U GONNA DO COWBOYS:)))

[@mcloutier5]

The stabs are for extra thrust like a scuba diver.

[@SynchronizorVideos]

I’m picturing them flapping back and forth for additional thrust, and it’s a hilarious mental image.

[@Justanotherconsumer]

@@SynchronizorVideosornithopter confirmed.

[@filibertkraxner305]

Well, I still remember that time they 'landed' the Saab Grypen prototype when that was having some flight control programming issues.... Compared to that this was super smooth, lol. Might just turn out to be a great jet by 2030.

[@a.c.a1129]

For people like you who think the world consists only of the United States of America, this might be a bit funny. However, even the microphone we are talking into is made in China, so don't underestimate anyone. No one knows what will happen in 20 years."

[@huseyincobanoglu531]

I invite you gentlemen to watch the maiden flight of the f16, f22 and f35. Two of those planes didn't make it off the ground. Yes all those planes are or were the best in its class. US military equipment is the finest in the world but first flights are a path to the end product. Cheers!

[@emrahguven8441]

it is the prototype no.1, it's duty to prove it can fly, software and sub systems are working in harmony. even though it was wind tunneled and flight was simulated many times, most probably we would see some differences in shape in Prototype No.2

[@Dorimeme187]

Would be nice to see Mover, Gonkey and Wombat react to the KF-21 Boramae!

[@Tommyinoz1971]

Where do we send the hate mail to?

[@salihozhan242]

Bence nefretin sebebini araştır

[@yusufkayhan6105]

Anana

[@yusufkayhan6105]

Annene

[@serkancanates7339]

"Small county of Turkey" hahahahahahahahahaaha. The most humble American.

[@ShiroZ31]

They've been doing their own development on F16 since the 80s. Of course they're going to base a lot of their designs on that.

[@MrAsgharbukhari]

I was hoping for some real analysis of this, instead the host tried his best but the other guest just seemed to want to be insulting. Hopefully a future series will give us more of an insight.

[@samilkafa3763]

"They just probably assumed we said something crappy about it": Yup, that's Turks right there. (I'm from Turkiye)

[@deniz_0909]

This aircraft has a mission description between F22 and F35. Simply put, a stealth f15ex

[@faisalshahkar2272]

Music at the start of video name ?? Anyone know about music name?

[@cagrisivri3376]

Sizler KAAN uçağını küçük gormeye devam edin ama uretildigi zaman göreceksiniz nasil bir ucak oldugunu sizler kenardan bakip gülümseyin biz uretmeye devam edecegiz 6.nesilide uretecegiz sonra cok ağlarsınız 😂😂

[@8thtwtgd]

Evet havacılığın kitabını yazan adamlar ağlıyor şuan. Lütfen olgun yorumlar yazın. Yoksa asıl böyle yorumlara gülerler. Bırakın gülsünler biz kendi bağımsız havacılık endüstrimizi geliştirmeye devam edelim.

[@cagrisivri3376]

@@8thtwtgd ben ABD kotu demedimki sadece gülüyorlar siz gülmeye devam edin dedim uçak uretilince görürsünüz dedim iyimi kötümü sende anlamiyorsun sanirim ama bu ucak f22den daha iyi f35den zaten iyi ha ABD ozamana bir üstünü çıkartır birsey demem ama KAAN hafife alınacak uçak degil

[@spiderh]

@@cagrisivri3376 ABD'nin uçak çıkarma periyodu 30 sene. Ki 6. nesil şu an ABD için çok büyük bir meydan okuma, ben yapabileceklerinden bile emin değilim. Yapsalar bile fiyat/performans dengesini tutturabileceklerinden emin değilim. Kısaca, şu an 6. nesil uçak sadece bir düşünce.

[@spiderh]

@@8thtwtgd Havacılığın kitabını Almanlar yazdı, ABD değil. 2. Dünya Savaşı'ndan sonra Alman mühendislerini alıp kullandı, olan bu.

[@mr.tobacco1708]

@@cagrisivri3376 Aga F22'yi hiçbir uçak geçemez bakın kendi uçağımızı üretmemiz iyi ancak "F22'den iyi" gibi sözler söylemek cidden hayal ürünü. Bu tür Jet'lerin üretiminde ABD'yi geçmek AŞIRI AŞIRI AŞIRI zor adamların elinde Lockheed Martin ve ona bağlı Skunk Works gibi canavar firmalar var. Yanlış anlamayın kapasitemizi veya kendimizi küçük görmüyorum ama gerçekler bunlar en iyisi olamayız ama en iyilerden birisi olabiliriz.

[@jacobbaumgardner3406]

Just to put its size into perspective, the stabs on this thing are the size of a Vipers wing.

[@aliyusufdevrim-qe2xz]

The fly by wire system automatically activates at low speed and pressure, allowing the aircraft to fly correctly by moving correctly with the manual system during landing. This indicates that the system is working correctly We can say that there is no need for F16 Lara. It just takes a little time. Congratulations, a great success, a real effort 🙏🇹🇷

[@dustinglenn829]

"I'm not kidding.. it's in NATOPs!" Going to start using this everyday

[@sparrowlt]

add it to "where is NATOPS? .. its in the thrash can sir.. Maverick put it there" and full combo

[@justefe1919]

On behalf of my country, I would like to thank everyone who sent their good wishes.I just laugh at those who buy planes from other countries and talk badly about the planes we build ourselves. No one would share the information of their 5th generation aircraft with a country, even if it is a friend.

[@enisun5839]

Thanks for the Video Guys. We are working on, it will take time to handle all.

[@jigensword7178]

If I'm characterized, you guys, as a Turkish character Gonky, can be Fatih Altaylı Wombat can be Can Ataklı but your C.W. Lemoine can be a more respectful positioned at least you are not trying to make a fun and underestimating the Turkish engineering, they knowing for the pioneers to many first achievements. They have wakeup now and we all know that they will make a difference. KAAN is the # 4th to be in the world after the U.S ,Russia and China but when they become fully operational and ready that day will be come #2 in the world after the U.S because Turkish technology will be in NATO standards and more advanced from the competition that means more power to the Türk's they will dominate the world markets all Muslim nations Central American countries Venezuela, El Salvador, Ecuador and many more including the MEXICO can be potentially customers so short saying Turkish economy will be the powered by the arms sales from now on get used to sharing the big cakes with the Türk's they will wipe out European shares because being a Muslim country gives them the upper hand and trust good luck to good looking KAAN.

[@gokcecagatay6176]

nope. you are wrong.

[@spiderh]

Fatih Altaylı = For Sale Enemy of the State

[@mgXL7]

There are some reports which mention posible collaboration with the Pakistanis. From what ive read, the Pakistanis have a decent military industrial complex, a formidable army and great relations with Turkiye. Thus, collaboration between the two allies doesn't seem farfetched.

[@bulentozen2127]

Greetings from Turkey/Turkiye. We love your videos so much. Btw we are developing our own helmet called tulgar.

[@erggolly7984]

Maybe our American ally can giive some technology support to develop helmet than we can say its a copy

[@alpagutorencik4500]

u c how proudly u speak about the viper. now pls. multiply times infinite. this is how proud türkiye is. and dont forget turks r not just türkiye. there is much more; azerbaijan, kazakhstan, kyrgyzstan, turkmenistan, uzbekistan, turkish cyprus, occuiped uyguiristan in china, belgorod Oblast, kabardino-balkaria, krasnodar krai, north ossetia-alania, rostov oblast, stavropol Krai in russia occupied south azerbaijan and many more. we speak about 500 milyon turks worldwide. we r so big u can not understand. thats why u get such a shit storm when u call T Ü R K I Y E small. forget borders between turkish staates.

[@0cu0]

I liked how you tried to be objective. Don`t mind the coming up "hate"-comments and do your thing.

[@ebnhahn1993]

Turkiye's objective is to make KAAN Entirely domestic except the Martin-Baker Proven Ejection seat. Therefore, almost every subsystem have to be proven out on seperate flights, Unlike the Korean KF21 in which Lockheed Marting has supplied the design and many critical flightt omponents are US made, Turkiye are making there own, From AVionics, Landing gear, Software, Armement and evantually the Engines. Many many flights will be required for the KAAN to verify the susbsystems in which the plane may not look completed...

[@혀재이]

ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 웃기네

[@aydinkahraman8586]

KAAN gibi mükemmel bir 5.nesil uçağı sadece 8 yılda tasarlayıp sorunsuzca uçurmak devasa bir başarıdır. Türk Mühendis ve teknisyenleri bunu başarmıştır, Dünya'da örneği yoktur, hepsini alınlarından öpüyorum

[@emreyldz4324]

We Turks had a lot of aviation experience before these we even selled Egypt F-16's built just in Turkey under Lockheed Martin contract in 1992.

[@volkanvolkan3664]

I am Turkish, my opinion is this plane will not be a match to F22, but the important thing is we are trying and the most important is we have the engineers and the resources to catch up with the aviation raise that we started late. As long as our horrible politicians do not sell our country .

[@ogzhnege]

Tbh Your comments doesn't need to be hated. You just give your perspective on the plane and yes they are working on a special helmet instead of Hud.

[@RedMentalHM66]

Honestly respect for reacting thanks

[@aakoksal]

With respect to your country size comparision, please note Turkiye is the 2nd biggest military power in the NATO... Agreed intermediate in size, but still the strongest power in the region... TAI reported only borrowed systems currently are the engine systems. They did comment on the excess stabilizator movements after first flight, they said flight computer was searching the optimum AOA. Now that they have the first flight data, we'll likely see improvement with subsequent flights after calibration. Something else to note, aircraft took off without afterburners. Kaan was chased with a two seater F16, shot movie/pictures as well as collected data. First delivery scheduled for 2028.

[@ebnhahn1993]

F22 initial takeoff rudder does the same. ONLY the Engine and Ejection seat are not Domestic.

[@NRZ-3Pi10]

So how to pronounce „Türkiye“? Bit tricky for English native speakers, since this letter “ü” is not available there, and I also don’t find an English word with a similar pronunciation. Two examples trying to get closer. Starting with bit too high pitch of intonation, English “pier” or “tier” might serve, or “They will get fierce if you still name them Turkey” (the latter too close to bird & `Thanksgiving´ meal and won’t be perceived as appreciation). Or coming from lower pitch with “U” like in `united´ or `uniform´, that might also be OK (that’s how `Turkmenistan´ - another country in the vicinity of Türkiye - is pronounced in German language at least). This special character “ü” is often written as “ue”; pronouncing it like for e.g. “Huey” helicopter would fit for initial intonation only but you would have to ignore the ending coming along with the “y” or “ey” then. Perhaps some native speakers also being fluent in English might comment & help with further, possibly better examples.

[@ensaan123]

torkiya

[@bryanbishop2377]

I'm assuming Gonky and Wombat are in hiding by now...

[@sinko5997]

Gülüşleriniz sizi ele veriyor beyler 😁KAAN hakkındaki bir sonraki inceleme videosundaki ruh halinizi şimdiden merak ediyorum😁

[@Momo-sk8lo]

6 TURKİC NATİON 250 MİLLİON PEOPLE 🙋‍♂️SMALL COUNTRY 🤔😂🤣 THE SMALL COUNTRY CONTROLLED THE WORLD 600 YEARS+USA İS İN THİS TİME THE NOT COUNTRY 🙋‍♂️

[@XY-uc1tw]

As a Turk myself, please do not care about fanatic Erdogan supporters comments, they are writing same sh... on every video. Just say your honest opinion, thats why normal people watch your videos.

[@hakaneksioglu1144]

Small country? Ok, maybe not too big but that "small country" second army in NaTo.

[@TURKOPOL46]

We saw the first flights of the F16 and F22. With the F110 GE 129E engine, it lifts up to 21ton at its mercy. Not designed for 2x29,000lb Kaan is designed to fly with a 2x35,000lb engine. For your information

[@basemhussein7401]

coming from the f-18, what I'm getting from this discussion, is that you guys seem to be extremely frustrated about how it is you would operate the stealth characteristics of this new airplane

[@hacktopamasdos9622]

2:06 "show the viper I dont care about this" really? that is 5th gen fighert doing its first flight made by middle east country and they did well actually

[@alekosepto6340]

Some information about the Turks. It is the Turks who invented the military formations such as corporal, captain, major (team, division, unit) that we use today, 2,600 years ago. Turks were also the first to domesticate horses and use them in war, and the first to use stirrups and mortars. The nation that China fears most in the world is the Turks. It would not be surprising if he broke new ground in the military sense.

[@cemnacarbayramoglu]

Sarcasm motivates us, thank you

[@Serkanizm_TR]

Until the KAAN project matures, I would like you to take a look at TURKEY's Unmanned Attack systems. For example, you can look at the ANKA-3, a stealth, tailless unmanned warplane project with high load carrying capacity, which contains weapon systems in the body, and the Heavy Class Unmanned Attack System Bayraktar AKINCI. .

[@Cellat1071]

Hello guys, you're doing great work! Don't let some of these sensitive Turks flying off the Great Turk handle get to you.. But if you can clarify some of your sector specifics vernacular and terminology that you're using in discussions among each other it should be a great help in really understanding your perspective. We are not all fighter pilots but are interested in your thought and opinions. What are stabs.. I'll Google it but other terminolgy makes me rewind and research the terms... also it would be nice to know what the general purpose and what the engineers are looking to achieve, what info they're looking for on this first flight, apparently its customary for first flight to have landing gear down, why is that? Any chance we can get an engineer on?

[@alistairbest3622]

Please show some respects to other nations' achievements; I personally don't know much about Turkiye, but I know that Turkiye is not small country with 783,562 km2, versus Israel 20,770 km2, Germany 357,600 km2. Turkiyie is 38 times larger than Israel, and 2.2 times larger than Germany. so Turkiye is not such a small country.

[@sametsevim8681]

You guys criticize or some review about fighter planes but you read nothing about it. Place work on it , read some futures etc. Then inform ppl and criticize okay ?

[@guitarazn90210]

You can't transplant fly-by-wire from one aircraft to something different, at least not yet. This is why a lot of one-off prototypes are manually flown, developing a new FBW would cost too much money.

[@pic18f452]

Definitely needs more control tuning, it's a normal step in development. Give them time they'll figure it out

[@obedeya]

My advice to you arrogant western imperialists, be careful when you fight with Russia, because if you fight with Russia, we Turks will not interfere, we will watch you on youtube and laugh at you, even though we are the 2nd largest military power of NATO, we will remain neutral just like in the 2nd World War, both the British and the Germans begged us a lot in those years for the Turks to enter the war on their side. The war between you imperialists among yourselves does not concern us, it happened once in the Korean War, it will not happen again and let's see if you can laugh again that day. History is learned by reading, you need to read many books to comment on Turks because our history is very long, it does not end in 250 years like American history, So read so that you don't remain ignorant ...

[@ahmettorumcu5346]

Not Turkey, Turkiye is the right name. May be now we are not biggest now, but don't forget our ancestors; Ottoman Empire. New Ottoman Empire will realise by Turkiye, don't forget this.

[@19ufuk]

Türk savunma, havacılık ve uzay sanayi ile ilgili daha fazla bilgiye ihtiyacınız var.Türkiye geçmiş yıllarda F16 savaş uçaklarından 160 adetin üzerinde lisans altında üretim yaptı. Skorsky S70 blackhawk.helikopterlerinden 109 adet lisans altında üretiyor ve eskiden F35 projesine 1007 adet parça üretiyordu. F35 savaş uçağı 6000 adet parçadan oluşuyor Orta gövdenin ABD' den sonraki dünyadaki tek üreticisiydi. Türk şirketi kale havacılık bütün F35lerin kablolarının tek tedarikçisiydi. Diğer Türk şirketi Alp havacılık F35 için iniş takımları, motor parçaları üretiyordu. Diger bir Türk şirketi olan Ayesaş F35 icin kokpite elektronik devre kartları üretiyordu. Dünyada uçan sivil ve asgeri her dört uçaktan birinde Türkiye' de üretilen parçalar kullanılıyor. Yani havacılık altyapısı olan bir ülke.F35 için üretim yapan bütün türk şirketleri bu bilgi ve birikimlerini artık TFX Kaan için kullanıyorlar.

[@tastanburak]

❤❤❤🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷❤️❤️❤️

[@amorthentiae]

We flew a prototype that normally should not have flown

[@mehmetvergili3833]

Also it was the biggest country couple hundreds years ago right? Look at some history man.