Turkish F-16 vs Greek F-16 Intercept Breakdown | Dogfight Over The Mediterranean or Fake?

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C.W. Lemoine

C.W. Lemoine

Күн бұрын

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@moyedchowdhury7697
@moyedchowdhury7697 4 жыл бұрын
I've been watching videos comparing the two forces (the Turks and the greeks) for a couple of days now. What's amazing is that in the comment section of those videos the most liked and commented comment always is the one that Greek expressing respect and love for the Turks or a Turk expressing love and respect for the greeks and trash-talking about the politicians of both countries.
@Galcan
@Galcan 4 жыл бұрын
Well they are burning Turkish flag left and right
@otgunz
@otgunz 4 жыл бұрын
You know, Turks and Greeks and Kurds and Arabs lived for 1000 years together in and around Anatolia. And all this time sultans, emperors, marshal turned politicians, religious fundementalists and traitor high ranking officers who sold their country FUCKED THESE PEOPLE OVER AND OVER. Why you invade from Izmir to Ankara (650 fucking kilometers deep) if Sevre Treaty says that Greeks can defend Greek people in Ottoman Izmir? Why when English leaves Greek Cypriots can kill Turkish Cypriots just to clain the whole island for themselves to join Greece? Why now thousands of little islands given to Greece by Italy (as they were meant to be returned back to Turkey) gives Greece the authortiy to control whole eastern Mediterranean? Why Europe, France especialy (since England is not Europe now) backes Greece to do this shit like England backed Greece back then? Can you see a connection here? Turks conquered Greece in the 14th and 15th centuries. Greece is trying that in the 20th and 21st centuries. For the mere people, how can I hate my neighbour? I would die to defend them right? So again and again just for the will of Europe, Russia, US, Greece wants to fight with Turkey 3rd time in a row.
@constantinoupoli4048
@constantinoupoli4048 4 жыл бұрын
Because the all area have Turkey now before was Greece. For this reason all the acient buildings, theatre they have greeks inscriptions. Everybody now how many genocides you make to take this place. Armenians, Greeks Assyrian and Kurdish
@Cl0ckcl0ck
@Cl0ckcl0ck 4 жыл бұрын
Politicians start the wars but the soldiers die.....
@tunaburnak5650
@tunaburnak5650 3 жыл бұрын
Please keep your respect if you’re going to debate with someone you never saw and never will on the internet, because you can’t change someone’s deep political thoughts, especially when you don’t even know them. In the end we all used to live together, Turkey might have invaded Greece illegally, but what about the things the Greeks did to Turkish civilians? See, there’s no end to this, it’s war, what did you expect?
@darthvader4899
@darthvader4899 4 жыл бұрын
Rules of Engagement. No side wants to be the one who starts the war. So they are following the engagement rules.
@davebeattie9573
@davebeattie9573 4 жыл бұрын
While serving with the British Army, I spent about two and a half years stationed in Cyprus. During my time there, I was aware of SIX separate incidents of weapons fire across "The Green Line". "The Green Line" is how the British Army referred to the UN controlled border between Turkish Northern Cyprus and Greek Southern Cyprus. These incidents always caused tensions to spike and the threat level to be raised. Cyprus is a hotly contested issue between both Turkey and Greece, and both sides are more than willing to trade fire, even if it is against the rules of engagement.
@50caliberr
@50caliberr 4 жыл бұрын
@@davebeattie9573 Where did u serve? My cousin was posted in kyrenia. Also he was mention about incidents about shooting both sides but not in lethal way.
@davebeattie9573
@davebeattie9573 4 жыл бұрын
@@50caliberr After basic and trade training in the UK, I was posted to Germany (Gutersloh), Cyprus (Episkopi and Troodos) and then back to Germany (Bruggen). Never got to go to the Northern (Turkish controlled) side of Cyprus, as it is technically not recognized as a legitimate state and as a serving soldier, it was forbidden. As I was serving in the last years of the Cold War, Cyprus was always considered as a "holiday posting", in that you weren't on the lines against the Warsaw Pact. Yet in Germany there was always an understanding that because both sides had the power to wipe out all life on the planet many times over that there would never be an actual conflict, as the political leaders of both sides knew that any conflict between them wouldn't remain conventional for long. This meant that no matter how problematic things got, you always felt sure that a fight wouldn't happen. It was a common thought among those I served with, that these tension increases were actually done deliberately to justify/increase defense spending. The situation in Cyprus was always a precarious one. Each time there was an exchange of fire across the Green Line, there was a very real sense that this would result in a renewal of the conflict. Of the six incidents I was aware of, two resulted in casualties with one of those being fatal. The UN peace keepers along the Green Line had little chance of stopping either side if things degenerated in to all out war, and this would see the UK plunged into yet another war, due to the UK having two Sovereign Base Areas in the Greek controlled side, and they are technically UK sovereign territory. This feeling of impending conflict felt heightened as neither side had the fear of global extermination to worry about, as they were both in NATO, and NATO wouldn't use nukes on their own allies.
@50caliberr
@50caliberr 4 жыл бұрын
@@davebeattie9573 I feel you in the same way. But current conflict seems only occur to regional sea battle or conflicts. I don't expect a war or something.. I think both sides wont got into a full scale combat. Both country economies are not suspend long orientated conflict. Nato should take a part in both sides to erase that anticipation in aegean sea. If it may be happens, greece and turkey must become partners in aegean waters to find natural hydro carbon based resources.
@nicholasgiokas3111
@nicholasgiokas3111 4 жыл бұрын
Dave Beattie Correction: The south is The Republic of Cyprus which is the legitimate government of the island and internationally recognized, not “Greek Southern Cyprus”. There is no “Turkish Northern Cyprus”, but there is a puppet state in the northern Turkish occupied portion of the island which is recognized by no other country except the illegally occupying power, ie Turkey.
@georgealexandris8043
@georgealexandris8043 4 жыл бұрын
Real or not it’s always nice to hear a professional point of view and not the usual bs from people who have only seen fighters in films
@mercygatobu3787
@mercygatobu3787 3 жыл бұрын
You are right.
@Polo-rn8ly
@Polo-rn8ly 2 жыл бұрын
You question its reality because you greeks get recked.
@godoff.5304
@godoff.5304 4 жыл бұрын
""TANGO-1 NEVER DIES""......
@gereksizyorumcu3075
@gereksizyorumcu3075 4 жыл бұрын
tatbikatta yeni teğmenler defalarca vurmasına rağmen tango - 1 in kabul etmemesi üzerine geyiği yapılan bir söz
@mubinburakakkaya174
@mubinburakakkaya174 4 жыл бұрын
@@gereksizyorumcu3075 ayhan abiyi izle o anlatsın olayı
@trakyabeyienver7633
@trakyabeyienver7633 4 жыл бұрын
@@gereksizyorumcu3075 adın gibi harbi gereksiz Bi insansın. Öğrende gel
@mubinburakakkaya174
@mubinburakakkaya174 4 жыл бұрын
@Erencan Ayhan ne gereksiz bir yorum yapmışsın
@mubinburakakkaya174
@mubinburakakkaya174 4 жыл бұрын
@Erencan Ayhan sende türkiyenin karanlık gerçeğisin
@thefellathathuntsvatniks
@thefellathathuntsvatniks 4 жыл бұрын
For Cellphone users: 0:00 Turkish F-16 vs Greek F-16 0:07 Situation 0:52 Intro 2:22 Play Through Reaction 4:38 Analysis/Breakdown 14:01 Is it REAL or FAKE? 21:30 Closing
@kenlv1980
@kenlv1980 4 жыл бұрын
@@alaric_3015 me to outdated KZbin
@lord3348
@lord3348 4 жыл бұрын
That was real dog fight
@galipcelik9293
@galipcelik9293 4 жыл бұрын
132. Hançer Squadron
@sepultallica2654
@sepultallica2654 4 жыл бұрын
♥️🇹🇷Turkish Air Force 🇹🇷 ♥️ 🇹🇷🤜🤜🤜🤜🤜🤜🤜🤜🤜🇬🇷 🇹🇷💪🇹🇷💪🇹🇷💪🇹🇷💪🇹🇷💪🇹🇷 🤜🇬🇷 👇 🥴 🤕
@windowedthoughts
@windowedthoughts 4 жыл бұрын
A ticket to go heaven is coming from this comment :)
@farisalamshah5363
@farisalamshah5363 3 жыл бұрын
I notice every fighter pilots have a pair of a very sharp eyes.. They were trained to look and process informations without moving much of their head.. Look at the way Mover move his eyes 👀 Real classy and mad respect ✊
@denisk751
@denisk751 4 жыл бұрын
Two long, two short... They are talking about the type of missiles they are carrying.
@omurozyurt4385
@omurozyurt4385 4 жыл бұрын
it means greek viper has 2 aim120s and 2 aim9s and drop tank
@mehmedmehmedov4947
@mehmedmehmedov4947 4 жыл бұрын
@@omurozyurt4385 I carry only one long for greek viper :DDDD
@omurozyurt4385
@omurozyurt4385 4 жыл бұрын
@@BlueWolf1399 dont have any exprience about flying with that jets but its what he said. if you know what they cant see so its
@Kawboy65
@Kawboy65 4 жыл бұрын
As a kid, looked forward to Fridays because it was the last day of school for the week. As an adult, look forward to Monday because of "Mondays with Mover".
@Alejandrogonzalez_real
@Alejandrogonzalez_real 4 жыл бұрын
The best way to start your morning is with a big cup of coffee and Mover breaking down dogfights!
@jasonhero1406
@jasonhero1406 2 жыл бұрын
Well done 👍 Turkish Air Force 👏👏👏 greeting from USA 🇺🇸
@Mertcan_atasoy
@Mertcan_atasoy 2 жыл бұрын
🇹🇷❤️🇺🇸
@whysoclever
@whysoclever 2 жыл бұрын
Give them the f16s then if u love them
@osint6372
@osint6372 5 күн бұрын
You are utterly clueless....... well done??? ahahahaha , they got their butts kicked by superior pilots........ Greeks are among the best in the world....Check your facts........
@jasonhero1406
@jasonhero1406 4 күн бұрын
@@osint6372 The Greeks are the most ridiculous nation in the world. You are truly ignorant. Your history is full of defeats. Greeks are the worst in the world. The fact that you see yourselves so highly comes from your inferiority complex, because your history is full of defeats. 😂🤣
@muratyilmaz6082
@muratyilmaz6082 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very professional brake down of the clip without getting in to the politics of it..wish more people could do analyses like you are doeing withour getting emotionally involved.
@giannisgiannis870
@giannisgiannis870 4 жыл бұрын
American airplane vs American airplane..Who is the winner?Americans.Why?They give airplanes to some countries and they laugh because these airplanes fight each other.
@Royallz15
@Royallz15 4 жыл бұрын
Some countries make their own version of it.
@dreamofsomeyoungguy9883
@dreamofsomeyoungguy9883 4 жыл бұрын
You own the plane when it’s running a us software. In this case Greece is still using a US software but Turkey isn’t. So turkey can use the bombs that they make but on the other hand Greece is depended on US bombs
@georgepapias7726
@georgepapias7726 4 жыл бұрын
That island is Greece you handicapped Turkey 🦃🦃 Borders are borders. If you don’t like them you can go back 10-20 generations somewhere between Mongolia and Persia.... Seljuk Turk
@Binajwaad
@Binajwaad 4 жыл бұрын
@@georgepapias7726 Mr Papias we dont want to back to Asia. There is not such as a force on earth you know. Maybe we want to take back Selanik. Please save there strongly. Last thing. You are a very ancient civilization. While decades centuries central and northern European folks clean asses with stone, you established city countries. Dont go behind them please.
4 жыл бұрын
@@dreamofsomeyoungguy9883 Bullshit.. Those "turkish" f16s are armed with aim 9s and aim 120s..
@vn6139
@vn6139 4 жыл бұрын
Almost every day this type of so called dog fights happen between TUAF and HAF. Always videos will be released like this in one side and then the other. On defensive side pilots doesnt want to make too much agressive manuevers just in case it can get too hot too quickly. Same as offensive side, thats why they are in sim mode ı think. Its just daily routine for them imo. More interesting thing is except for the extreme nationalists both Turkish and Greek people actually getting along no problem. Its the conflict between ruling goverments not the people.
@Panos121972
@Panos121972 4 жыл бұрын
Very true
@nikosnas2184
@nikosnas2184 4 жыл бұрын
i believe that turkish people are fed lies and that erdogan is a big idiot for demanding from us. The lausanne treaty says no to them. Anyone who believes that turkey owns our sea is a fool.
@celebor6531
@celebor6531 4 жыл бұрын
@@nikosnas2184 I belive Who believes greak sea such a idiot
@GokhanAksu89
@GokhanAksu89 4 жыл бұрын
@@nikosnas2184 Do not delay the last installment to Germany.
@andreas8491
@andreas8491 4 жыл бұрын
@-Hyper Tell that to warship "AVEROF" aka "seitan papor" or to frigate LIMNOS
@Rorynes
@Rorynes 4 жыл бұрын
The Greek vipers went to Cyprus undetected and in their return flight to Crete the Turkish vipers that were searching for them were intercepted by other Greek vipers from Crete.One of the Turkish viper returned due to fuel shortage..The cut of scenes and the fact that vipers with CFT exist also in tuaf it is a video with Turkish f-16 that train eachother...
@thanassisveggos627
@thanassisveggos627 Жыл бұрын
I wasn't aware Turkish F-16s were upgraded to Vioers
@apmikalogran
@apmikalogran Жыл бұрын
Turkish aren’t viper Some grams turned to viper recently
@The28studio
@The28studio 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah,I think that what it is, they hate each other but not to the point to start a war. Its more like I see you kinda of a thing. And please,we dont need another war ...
@husnushepherd
@husnushepherd 4 жыл бұрын
It's not the hate of the people but rather the power battle of governments for local votes.
@sturmanaskie
@sturmanaskie 4 жыл бұрын
well it's about to happen
@agismad9911
@agismad9911 4 жыл бұрын
@@husnushepherd its the turks who think our land is theirs
@thebgpikester
@thebgpikester 4 жыл бұрын
Turkey invaded Cyprus in my lifetime. people have died on both sides. There has always been a conflict, this is just an extended ceasefire. And yes, Oil...
@agismad9911
@agismad9911 4 жыл бұрын
@@thebgpikester We greeks dont want the oil. Greece doesnt even have a way or the money to extract it. But it is in our waters and the turks will never touch it. Same goes with oil in cyprus.
@Surtur1x
@Surtur1x 4 жыл бұрын
3:11 Turkish Pilot says: " i can hit the one in the front.
@yunus3435
@yunus3435 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t say that u clearly haven’t watched clearly 😂🤦🏻‍♂️
@gelecek488
@gelecek488 4 жыл бұрын
@@yunus3435 Öndekine çakabilirim ne demek
@mustafapolat6530
@mustafapolat6530 4 жыл бұрын
@@yunus3435 mal mısın yunus sen Adam önümde olan yunan f 16 vurabilir diyor ,komutanına soruyor vurayım mı diye , ulan var ya senin gibi mal çok bu ülkede yunus
@gogeyeryuzune9095
@gogeyeryuzune9095 4 жыл бұрын
It is more like in the lines of "I can nail the one on the front". A bit more sensation and excitement. :)
@enesergul2389
@enesergul2389 4 жыл бұрын
çakabilirim means fuck. i can fuck the one in the front
@metinkorkmaz7968
@metinkorkmaz7968 4 жыл бұрын
Bir Türk pilot atasözü der ki : "Öndekine çakabilirim" 😀
@ardaakkaya2122
@ardaakkaya2122 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@50caliberr
@50caliberr 4 жыл бұрын
hahahah :) Bir türk atasözü der ki: "Alayına Gider"
@fatihdemiral7187
@fatihdemiral7187 4 жыл бұрын
🇹🇷
@ChrisTheDude
@ChrisTheDude 4 жыл бұрын
Your time will come bastards! better get up and start running 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇦🇺🇦🇺
@metinkorkmaz7968
@metinkorkmaz7968 4 жыл бұрын
ChrisTheDud3 I wish the time comes son of the bitch. We already respect this. Sign up for swimming course because will be needed😡🇹🇷💪
@omercanklc798
@omercanklc798 4 жыл бұрын
2 short, 2 long mean is Short: aim 9 Long: aim 120
@sava_e6369
@sava_e6369 4 жыл бұрын
ömer can kılıç Long AMRAAM değil mi?
@OktayYalçın12
@OktayYalçın12 4 жыл бұрын
@@sava_e6369 video da ne diyor kısaca açıklarmısın ?
@omercanklc798
@omercanklc798 4 жыл бұрын
@@sava_e6369 evet
@orhan6211
@orhan6211 4 жыл бұрын
@@sava_e6369 aynı şey
@mustafakeskin5429
@mustafakeskin5429 4 жыл бұрын
Ne diyorlar video hakkında hocam,İngilizcem zayıf da.2 cümle özet geçer misin
@ghost1-594
@ghost1-594 4 жыл бұрын
two long two short isnt that like short range aim 9 and maybe long range aim120? something like that ?
@semihsert4929
@semihsert4929 4 жыл бұрын
yes , definetly
@seinfeld11123
@seinfeld11123 4 жыл бұрын
no 2 jets had 2 drop tanks, and the other jets didn't . so all 4 had conformal tanks, but only 2 had drop tanks. this is so the jets without the external tanks can maneuver better. they were the escorts
@Stickers96
@Stickers96 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, we don't know like he said.
@ercanyesiltas
@ercanyesiltas 4 жыл бұрын
@@seinfeld11123 wrong.
@orhan6211
@orhan6211 4 жыл бұрын
exactly. Two long range missiles (probably Amraam 120s) , and two short range heat seeking missiles, probably Aim 9 or Iris which the Hellenic airforce has both)
@abdifatahcg4055
@abdifatahcg4055 3 жыл бұрын
From 🇸🇴 turkey is my brother 😋🙌🇹🇷💪
@archerman1
@archerman1 3 жыл бұрын
Please stay there 🤣
@ph5915
@ph5915 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, I had wondered how it got nicknamed the Viper. The official name from General Dynamics was "Fighting Falcon". Falcon's are awesome - fst and agile hunters, I wonder why that just wasn't kept.
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 4 жыл бұрын
Planes have long had nicknames. Nobody calls a A-10 the Thunderbolt 2. Nobody calls B-52 a Stratofortress.
@ph5915
@ph5915 4 жыл бұрын
@@WALTERBROADDUS Good point, thanks, Walter. I guess in my mind I didn't think 'Falcon' was bad, it's still 2 syllables...LOL.
@GrizzAxxemann
@GrizzAxxemann 4 жыл бұрын
The F-16 came into production when Battlestar Galactica was on TV. The starfighters were called Vipers. The guys going F-16s loved that show.
@johns.7609
@johns.7609 4 жыл бұрын
manos filips as he said, viper has been the pilots’ name for the f-16 since the 1970’s. This is undisputed in the viper community.
@treerat7631
@treerat7631 3 жыл бұрын
@@WALTERBROADDUS yep A10 is Worthhog, B 52 is BUFF
@returnofthestrangers
@returnofthestrangers 4 жыл бұрын
Great analysis as usual, never biased always neutral simple sign of a good professional pilot and a good youtuber 👍
@michaelharos5254
@michaelharos5254 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely wrong he did not pick up that this was Turkish van Turkish and you could Google that this was fake because the next day it came out that it was Turkish on Turkish the Greeks always wipe the floor with the Turkish pilots and they always win the best Pilots aboard how did he get fooled everybody in the International Community was embarrassed by this
@TerebitMedia
@TerebitMedia 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelharos5254 lol what an idiot
@efedrikoefedriko182
@efedrikoefedriko182 3 жыл бұрын
GREEK FORCE
@codystout5353
@codystout5353 4 жыл бұрын
I have learned so much from mover. I'm trying to become a pilot. I served in the army. My gi bill will pay for flight training. However, I have to get my private pilots license first. I work every day trying to get money saved up. I just can't do it. I'm taking care of my sick mother and I will continue to do it even if it means giving up my dream.
@kainhall
@kainhall 3 жыл бұрын
family first man!!! . good work, and good luck it still might happen for ya.... Karma works in strange ways!
@turkishpunisher6386
@turkishpunisher6386 2 жыл бұрын
All the best to you and your mother.
@hoilst
@hoilst 4 жыл бұрын
That "multicolor" thing is likely from whatever video recording system they use on their F-16 (looks like interlacing gone a bit nuts), or just good ol' chromatic aberration from the lenses. As high-tech as the F-16 is, I doubt they're putting in super achromatic rare-earth glass elements hand-ground by some German dude in the HUD camera.
@perseusarkouda
@perseusarkouda 4 жыл бұрын
Carl Zeiss glass lol I was thinking the same. That's probably chromatic aberration.
@afrosch6357
@afrosch6357 4 жыл бұрын
FEINSTE WERTARBEIT MEIN FREUND
@In-rf3vl
@In-rf3vl 4 жыл бұрын
As Turks we have no problem with Greek people. They re our neighbour. Wish we could get along better but politicians never stop fighting. How sad....
@pavlosdimitriou9647
@pavlosdimitriou9647 4 жыл бұрын
Yes my friend but we choose our politicians so we have a blame too
@In-rf3vl
@In-rf3vl 4 жыл бұрын
@@pavlosdimitriou9647 not sure how your selections are. But here in Turkey selection rules can lead a party to win the selection with 30s precent void. So this is exacly what happened in here. This winner party also has a religist idendty which never happened before in republic of Turkeys history. Hope you can see the problem. So the idea of "we also have responsible with it" is not always as it looks .
@rellosapostolos2266
@rellosapostolos2266 4 жыл бұрын
@@In-rf3vl just imagine how powerful we would both be if we were close friends and we were working together
@baykazdal
@baykazdal 4 жыл бұрын
@@rellosapostolos2266 won't happen for the same reason as it would be logically the right choice ..too many common interest in the Region. Both Countries are economical not in the best Shape and both need rescources to spurt that groth. That and you have players in the background that would benefit if Turkey and Greek would go to WAR
@In-rf3vl
@In-rf3vl 4 жыл бұрын
@@rellosapostolos2266 exacly my friend.
@suhan8382
@suhan8382 3 жыл бұрын
It is clearly has been shot on sunset.You can see some clouds on orange hue.Video is not fake.It is cool that Turaf intercept on sim mode.Big applause for those gentlemans.This training kind of dogfights has become a tradition between Hellenic and Turkish airforce.It is like sports match and it is good for training.We have become each others aggressors.
@5thGenNativeTexan
@5thGenNativeTexan 4 жыл бұрын
Love the breakdown and hearing your perspective on these type of encounters! Any thoughts on doing one on intercepts / encounters where US fighters interact with Russian Tu-142s, Tu-95, etc.. or the other way around with encounters like the recent B-52 and Russian Flankers?
@KC98561
@KC98561 4 жыл бұрын
OR....The rules of engagement REQUIRE the aircraft to remain in SIM to prevent an accidental firing.
@BobInGreek
@BobInGreek 3 жыл бұрын
Not between greece and turkey
@canerg1151
@canerg1151 3 жыл бұрын
@@BobInGreek I'd say ESPECIALLY between Turkey and Greece, because interceptions like this happen on a daily basis on both sides.
@Polo-rn8ly
@Polo-rn8ly 2 жыл бұрын
@@canerg1151 it doesn't happy daily. Thats was in 1990s.
@ThePositiev3x
@ThePositiev3x 4 жыл бұрын
As a veteran, if you see nothing to tag the video as fake, then it's not fake. You probably didn't want to offend anyone, that's why you're saying you are not sure.
@joshuanishanthchristian5217
@joshuanishanthchristian5217 4 жыл бұрын
A Greek newspaper actually quoted your last video on the matter! Specifically your "They're making my Viper look bad" line
@solowingborders3239
@solowingborders3239 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a link? I'd like to see that.
@lashlarue59
@lashlarue59 4 жыл бұрын
This is a wet dream for weapons manufacturers, they get to supply both sides!
@ΓιώργοςΦωτο
@ΓιώργοςΦωτο 3 жыл бұрын
Turkey threat Greece. They invaded in Cyprus 1974 . For 40 years Turkish aircrafts almost every day invate in greek air space. Turkish ship tried to hit greek ship Turkish jet fighters thirty years ago fly near a small aircraft of Olympic airways They used his ships to make research in Aegean sea in 70s 80 s and now In 1987 and 1996 they threat woth war in Greece. They sent soldiers in greek island imia in 1996 For many years all turkish government and Turkish generals threat Greece with war . They destroyed homes and stores of greek people who lived in Constantinople in 50s. They want greek islands in Aegean sea Erdogan is a dictator in his country They only words in his speeches are war and threats. He threats Greece and Cyprus and acuses France Russia European union Erdogan helped Isis with money and guns Erdogan invate in Syria and lybia He is sending in greek Islands thousand mouslims for Africa and Asian in order to change the population in these greek islands Turkey and Erdogan send mouslims and Isis fighters in Greece and many of them go to Europe. And all these years the civilized world like in Europe union UK , Germany , USA and now Russia support Turkey not Greece. All greek citizens know very good that they are alone and they have not allies in european Union and NATO. NATO allies does not exist for Greece Usa UK and now Russia and Germany support the criminal not the victim. Greece has no border with countries like Switzerland Filand Belgium Holland. Greece has Turkey. This the reason that Greece take so many tanks, modern submarines ships, missles and modern jet fighters. When your neighbor are threating you to invate in your home and you have no support they only way is to defence. It is the only solution to protect your life and your family Sorry for my bad English
@audaxaquilae6974
@audaxaquilae6974 3 жыл бұрын
@@ΓιώργοςΦωτο of course greeky
@orucduygu9737
@orucduygu9737 3 жыл бұрын
@@ΓιώργοςΦωτο hey dude, i live in istanbul and i am a turkish guy who has greek and armenian friends, that you write about is same for turkish side because they call it war, but we have same culture same kitchen same air same land same people you can believe and see, the only and only difference is religion man, ok just understand that politicians use that very well
@ΓιώργοςΦωτο
@ΓιώργοςΦωτο 3 жыл бұрын
@@orucduygu9737 I agree with you. Also I don't want war.
@englezos6291
@englezos6291 3 жыл бұрын
@snuggmoney the entire nato would back us up you wouldnt stand a chance
@hugo.bossakgi5659
@hugo.bossakgi5659 4 жыл бұрын
the turkish f16s have also been modernized and the pilots are very good
@valiaxristaki4717
@valiaxristaki4717 4 жыл бұрын
And very old .
@valiaxristaki4717
@valiaxristaki4717 4 жыл бұрын
Turkish F-16 pilots is very old . Many many times in air fight . Has problems in Fuel . Greece have many island with airport and F-16 . Greek pilot don't have problem in Fuels.
@hugo.bossakgi5659
@hugo.bossakgi5659 4 жыл бұрын
@@valiaxristaki4717 it doesn't matter they are still fast and well turkey has modernized them
@hugo.bossakgi5659
@hugo.bossakgi5659 4 жыл бұрын
@@valiaxristaki4717 the f16 has still proven itself well so far
@hugo.bossakgi5659
@hugo.bossakgi5659 4 жыл бұрын
@@valiaxristaki4717 the f16 is still a fighter
@robertw6894
@robertw6894 3 жыл бұрын
how did you fly f16s AND f18s? they're in separate branches of the military, did you switch branches or something?
@SNKR_HEAD83
@SNKR_HEAD83 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm 😒🤔 good question
@TybrosionMojito
@TybrosionMojito 3 жыл бұрын
He did actually! There's a video on his channel detailing how he went from one to the other to continue flying. It's pretty neat.
@Kingrhem.
@Kingrhem. 3 жыл бұрын
F16s in the Air Force and F18s in the Navy he didn't like being far away from home so he requested to be in the navy aviation
@agentstv1584
@agentstv1584 4 жыл бұрын
Every aviation incidence Le Mover: Let's investigate 😁✌️
@tasoszonios5021
@tasoszonios5021 4 жыл бұрын
3:25 "πάμε seperation για Ρόδο" subs "unintelligible" Translation from greek: lets go seperation for Rhodes
@TSHKKRipper
@TSHKKRipper 4 жыл бұрын
Nope! It is Turkish and says "Anlaşıldı, devam edin."
@tasoszonios5021
@tasoszonios5021 4 жыл бұрын
@@TSHKKRipper amy greek speaker can clearly hear what he says im pretty sure its greek
@TSHKKRipper
@TSHKKRipper 4 жыл бұрын
@@tasoszonios5021 I am Turkish speaker and I am sure he is saying "Anlaşıldı, devam edin."
@MetinAksoyYT
@MetinAksoyYT 4 жыл бұрын
@@tasoszonios5021 I understand also "Anlaşıldı, devam edin." :-)
@nick_516
@nick_516 4 жыл бұрын
@@tasoszonios5021 και εγώ αυτό ακούω που λες
@aaronzeiger216
@aaronzeiger216 4 жыл бұрын
Why anyone would get torqued over calling it the viper is beyond me. I was a maintainer through most of the 90s when we were still operating vipers in the block 30s. It's always been the viper.
@akmorf6609
@akmorf6609 4 жыл бұрын
Which country?
@simageorge63
@simageorge63 2 ай бұрын
block 70 V.But to me Viper is a car.F16 is Falcon looks like a falcon to me.
@thelespauldude3283
@thelespauldude3283 3 ай бұрын
8:10 In DCS, the F16 block 50 has that beeping when something pops up on the RWR. I thought all blocks had that, learned something new today.
@fenerbahceeastbull320
@fenerbahceeastbull320 4 жыл бұрын
i dont know why but i still love the F-16 they re looking still amazing. Maybe one of the best fighter Jet US ever built
@00Phalanx
@00Phalanx 4 жыл бұрын
Fake? Why would it be fake? Both sides have tons of footage like this. These engagements happen nearly every day. Claims based on HUD symbols like "SIM" and "FUEL" are also funny. They know nothing about F-16 systems or they lying on purpose .
@Pavlos_Charalambous
@Pavlos_Charalambous 4 жыл бұрын
Two tone camouflage.. HAF Doesn't use it
@theturklord5049
@theturklord5049 Жыл бұрын
@@Pavlos_Charalambous dude greece jst fkng pooor for us that facts lol u knw ths to ))
@salihsato
@salihsato 4 жыл бұрын
''ooo arkadakini pudinge götürdük'' bunuda çevirin
@BURKİCAN45
@BURKİCAN45 4 жыл бұрын
Pull ding olacak o
@salihsato
@salihsato 4 жыл бұрын
@@BURKİCAN45 yok canım sendegercekmi
@Siddich
@Siddich 3 жыл бұрын
@Yannis Kaltsatis oh, you like german poems. i see. a man of culture 🤗
@user-pr1sp1og6d
@user-pr1sp1og6d 3 жыл бұрын
Kanka vidyoda ne diyor ben anlayamadım kısa özet geçebilir misin
@mesutcaglayan9808
@mesutcaglayan9808 3 жыл бұрын
Aynen hocam bizi gömüyorlar mı. Açıklar mısın biraz. Rica etsem
@yemembunumaray9112
@yemembunumaray9112 4 жыл бұрын
You are not objective. You talk about positive aspects of greek air force when their video is on the air. But when Turkish Airforce is superior in a dogfight you say that it is not a serious case.
@Vaios1981
@Vaios1981 4 жыл бұрын
Very well commented. Professionally, to the point and without unnecessary drama.
@sgtrpcommand3778
@sgtrpcommand3778 4 жыл бұрын
If the F16 “launched” in sim mode would the target it’s tracking get an RWR warning?
@venpirethevampire
@venpirethevampire 4 жыл бұрын
Turkish Viper was locking its AIM-9X Sidewinder. RWR wouldnt work.
@jackdonith
@jackdonith 4 жыл бұрын
@@venpirethevampire there is a years old similar video, Turkish F16 vs Greek Mirage2000 I think where the Turkish F16 gives something that sounds like such a warning during the dogfight. What could trigger such a warning?
@venpirethevampire
@venpirethevampire 4 жыл бұрын
@@jackdonith that was the Sidewinder's "lock on" sound. It means Mirage could launch a missile if the master arms switch was ARM instead of SIM. Or it could mean jamming. Both Turkish and Greek F-16s and Mirages have the best jamming pods in NATO.
@becauseiwasinverted5222
@becauseiwasinverted5222 4 жыл бұрын
No it would not. "Shooting" in SIM mode does not emit any kind of signal, so RWR would not detect anything to give a warning about. Generally pressing the trigger in SIM is only done to "record" a simulated firing on tape for debriefing/training purposes etc.
@caliphofbosnia
@caliphofbosnia 4 жыл бұрын
@@jackdonith It was the sound of Magic-II heatseeker missile that Greek M2000 use, French copy of Aim-9 Sidewinder.
@onee
@onee 3 жыл бұрын
It is funny how people on Twitter seem to have more "expertise" on these topics than the actual experts. The guy claiming that "SIM" was "simulation" clearly thought that this was some sort of computer simulation.
@Mpampouinos13
@Mpampouinos13 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting informantion: "According to reliable sources, this is the pair of F-16s that had taken off for a distraction from Kastelli, Crete, which "pulled" the Turks on them, managing to drag them into a contentless air battle and the 6th group to return without even perceive them again. In the images officially released by Turkey, the Turkish F16s seem to be "locking" a Greek F-16 in an air battle in an area very south of Kastellorizo. Although there are no features that determine the download time, it is nevertheless considered "authentic"." Also the pilot couldn't or didn't try to get a steady gun track. The defensive guy didn't maneuver hard either.
@makiskoletsis8414
@makiskoletsis8414 4 жыл бұрын
So true. Turkish propaganda at its worst.
@LittleGoldenGunesh
@LittleGoldenGunesh 4 жыл бұрын
Makis Koletsis propaganda?? Cry.
@narcick1018
@narcick1018 4 жыл бұрын
@@makiskoletsis8414 my dude both countries constantly make propaganda thats not a issiuw
@orhangulez7322
@orhangulez7322 4 жыл бұрын
The Greek Tear Her Ass To Escape.
@In-rf3vl
@In-rf3vl 4 жыл бұрын
@Nikos papadopoylos Not Turks. Turkish goverment. Pathetic!!!
@ahmettaskn5687
@ahmettaskn5687 3 жыл бұрын
2:40 false subtitle, actually he said " our FL is currently 150" which means we are at 15.000 feets.
@suleymangunhanrumi5669
@suleymangunhanrumi5669 4 жыл бұрын
"two long, two short" means. "two aim-120 amraam, two aim-9 sidewinder"
@castirtroy
@castirtroy 4 жыл бұрын
Bu adam nediyor süleyman bey iyi bişey mi kötü bişey mi övüyormu gömüyormu anlayamadım
@TheKingLemur
@TheKingLemur 4 жыл бұрын
@@castirtroy Videonun başlığı; Akdeniz Üstündeki İt Dalaşı Sahte mi? Videonun gerçek olmadığı yönünde iddalar olduğunu söylüyor. Bu sebeple videoyu beraber, tarafsızca inceleyelim diyor. Önce başüstü ekrandaki sembollerin anlamlarını açıklıyor. Kendisi de eski bir pilot. İddalar: 1) Görüntülerin kesintisiz, tek bir video olmadığını söyleyenler var diyor; Evet doğru birkaç video kesilip birleştirilmiş ama bunun bir kanıt olmadığını, Türklerin güvenlik gerekçesiyle yada taktiklerinin anlaşılmaması için de bunu yapmış olabileceklerini söylüyor. 2) Uçak kamuflajlarına bakarak, farklı renkte boyalı f16 lar var bunlar Yunan uçağı değil diyenler var; Görüntü çözünürlükleri çok kötü, ayrıca ışık oyunlarıda var biryerde mavi gözüken uçak başka bir karede kızıl gözükebiliyor diyor buda bize birşey vermez diyor. 3) Bu gerçek bir it dalaşı ise uçak neden SIM ( Simulation Mode )simülasyon modda diyenler var; Bunda haklılık payı olabilir diyor.SIM mod eğitimlerde kullanılır.Zira engelleme yapmaya gidiyorsanız, durumun her an gerçek çatışmaya dönme ihtimali vardır ve SIM modda silahlarınızı ateşleyemezsiniz diyor. 4) Bu görüntüler Türklerin eğitim uçuşundan olduğunu ve bu yüzden SIM modda olduklarını söyleyenler var; Videoda her iki tarafta keskin manevralar yapmıyor, agresif değil gibiler, bu bir it dalaşından çok bir engelleme uçuşu gibi o yüzden de SIM de olabilirler diyor. Yine amaç direkt saldırmak olmadığından ve yine aslında iki tarafta aslında savaş başlatmak istemediğinden de SIM modda olabilirler diyor. Sonuç olarak ortada birleştirilmiş bir video var ama bu sahtedir yada değildir diyebileceğimiz bir kanıtımız yok. Yorumlardan da anladığımız Türk vs Yunan tarafı birbirlerini iyi tanıyorlar ve zaten hep SIM moda dırlar.Aksi durum gerçek bir çatışmaya vara bilir. SIM mode pilotun refleks olarak silahları ateşlemesini de önler.
@castirtroy
@castirtroy 4 жыл бұрын
Çok teşekkür ederim zahmet verdim
@TheKingLemur
@TheKingLemur 4 жыл бұрын
@@castirtroy Rica ederim.
@ibrahimaksoydenizli
@ibrahimaksoydenizli 4 жыл бұрын
bosverin bu malları fransız eski bi pilotun videosunda o ben taraf deilim ama videodaki rum ucaği diyoooo
@s3viking214
@s3viking214 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this breakdown. Especially the fuel part
@billkar8129
@billkar8129 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Mover! You're doing the right thing man, as long as you stay out of political analysis, and present the experienced pilot's view, you're spot-on. Aim high! I know this is irrelevant, but would it be easy to make a video of functions on the ICP panel some day?
@AKRITAS365
@AKRITAS365 Жыл бұрын
The Greek pilots are more skillful than the Turkish pilots clearly confirmed in the dog fights and in te international competitions.
@AKRITAS365
@AKRITAS365 Жыл бұрын
@@melihaydogan9383 It was spains airforce fault tourkomongol ! Read the article first and then open your mouth
@shura0107
@shura0107 4 жыл бұрын
Mover, thanks for cutting through the sensationalism that the media has. With the Turkish pilots not pulling the trigger, and weapons in SIM, it shows that the two sides are doing stuff to each other, but hardly expecting to get into a shooting war. It looks like the Turkish F-16 stays well shy of the F-16's famous 9G capabilities, would it be a possibility that the Turkish F-16 is also carrying external tanks and is limiting turn rate as not to over-G them? If so, then definitely both sides are not ready to throw down and really fight. As you have said, if they were serious, they'd have punched off the tanks. The F-16 has fought itself and won.
@athanasioschiras8770
@athanasioschiras8770 4 жыл бұрын
Hello. In this video presented by the Turks as Genuine, at some point the dialogue of Greek pilots is heard, which is cut short immediately
@SLAF999
@SLAF999 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Mover, a very professional breakdown, and a lot of mutual "love" between turks and greek here , maybe a good idea for the next DCS tournament is taking these guys in the VR world sky and let them decide who is the best....without starting a war or killing each other in real life...
@skimilarydinky2144
@skimilarydinky2144 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't it obvious who would win?
@Ulver27
@Ulver27 3 жыл бұрын
@@skimilarydinky2144 No. Greeks have also video of them locking TUAF aircraft.
@user-Prometheus
@user-Prometheus 2 жыл бұрын
@@skimilarydinky2144 The Hellenic Airforce would win.
@Danspy501st
@Danspy501st 3 жыл бұрын
I think, depending how the video came out the public, it could be an "old" training video between the two air forces. It wont surprise me if they would use that to make a statement or something like that. Beside, if it was the media that released the video, then they would most likely ramp up how dramatic the "encounter" was to sell papers and so on. Like what some medias likes to do between the Russian and other NATO allied air force each time one of those gets too close to each other
@deathstroke.6020
@deathstroke.6020 Жыл бұрын
Hayır bu gercek bir video. Bizim alanımıza giriyo Yunan uca Türk hava kuvvetleri de bunun cevabını veriyo.
@g1998k
@g1998k Жыл бұрын
I doubt they would even have a visual if not in sim mode. It would be a suicide to approach each other unless both pilots know very well how this plays out. Let me know if I miss something here.
@fixedguitar47
@fixedguitar47 4 жыл бұрын
I trained on the best simulator ever “F-16 Fighting Falcon” back in 1985! It was intense cause it never ended! It just kept pushing you till you couldn’t handle it anymore.
@fixedguitar47
@fixedguitar47 4 жыл бұрын
P38FORK - That’s garbage compared to the 1985 F-16 Fighting Falcon simulator. There’s even a video of it somewhere on KZbin.
@fixedguitar47
@fixedguitar47 4 жыл бұрын
P38FORK - Here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/emXVfmaVmNGUeNU Its INTENSE! I was an Ace! Just incredible. If I wasn’t color blind I could have flown combat!
@wandess
@wandess 7 ай бұрын
The 101st Air Refueling Fleet Command, located at Incirlik 10th Tanker Base Command in Adana, undertakes a critical task in increasing the range and duration of air operations with KC135 R type tanker aircraft. That's why the bingo situation is ignored. Rest assured, they will be in the air immediately afterwards to fuel the KC135 R f-16s. Turkey has the most effective fuel supply fleet within NATO after the USA. This fleet was able to keep 80 F-16s in the air at the same time during the Sun Operation.So I think the bingo situation is nothing more than an unimportant detail.
@wannasa16
@wannasa16 4 жыл бұрын
13:24 two long two short means that the aircraft he is chasing has two long range and two short range missiles on it.
@tayfungulhan4872
@tayfungulhan4872 4 жыл бұрын
we waiting france pilots are you ready turkish dances??? ıwe were know operation in mali helicopters :)
@Gregory-vb7lh
@Gregory-vb7lh 4 жыл бұрын
Lol fake
@Gregory-vb7lh
@Gregory-vb7lh 4 жыл бұрын
Keep believe the propaganda ship
@Ichoros
@Ichoros 4 жыл бұрын
you wont even see where they come from man :)
@Gregory-vb7lh
@Gregory-vb7lh 4 жыл бұрын
Lol rafales are gonna f@ck u up
@woooster17
@woooster17 4 жыл бұрын
“Tamam huddy, aklinda ne var?” *Thank you Google translate 😉
@uunona-45
@uunona-45 4 жыл бұрын
Huddy?
@enestaha314
@enestaha314 4 жыл бұрын
Bad translate
@woooster17
@woooster17 4 жыл бұрын
@@enestaha314 Didnt think it would be the best..
@y.t.1320
@y.t.1320 3 жыл бұрын
Its hadi means "lets"
@samustube
@samustube 4 жыл бұрын
Everybody knows; "Tango 1 never dies" ✌😉
@sterx9678
@sterx9678 4 жыл бұрын
yeah in Sumilator game dont die hahaha
@zafer846
@zafer846 3 жыл бұрын
@Military Aviation Memes and Videos İf U Are Turkish Why Are Ur Name Is English? Bc Ur Not Turkish
@ThomasTherianos
@ThomasTherianos 3 жыл бұрын
@@zafer846 I'm Greek why is my name not greek? Same thing. Let the man chill.
@deathwishdd8998
@deathwishdd8998 3 жыл бұрын
@@zafer846 Stfu pressed child he has the right to put an English name
@TheLowenight
@TheLowenight 3 жыл бұрын
Greek people are our brothers..it's not a lie it's a fact...but not politicians..
@SamTheOldMan
@SamTheOldMan 4 жыл бұрын
These Greek f16 were sent to divert attention from the dozen other Greek f16 unhindered to and from Cyprus. They were there to keep the Turkish jets occupied.
@olahellasnews1252
@olahellasnews1252 2 жыл бұрын
If you look close you will see thats not a Greek plane
@falconay
@falconay 4 жыл бұрын
the pilot flies his plane...permission to shoot belongs to political authority...the pilot cannot "MASTER ARM ON" without permission...in your countries, is this kind of work done according to the pilot's opinion?...if the order is given, the pilot will shoot...it's that simple...but now "that order" has been given to all Turkish Armed Forces...now, there's no need for too much interpretation...with the smallest mistake the Greek side will make, you will understand whether this video is real or false...here, then you will see that the switch is in ARM, not SIM...I've read almost all the comments... you believed in ridiculous things...like fuel, altitude, or the color of the plane...how did you make a connection between the fuel level and the reality of the video?..TURAF's F-16s are close enough to the country to return to their bases, even if they are under 1,000 lb of fuel...also, it is clear in the video that even the clouds in the air appear red because of the sun...turaf aircraft note information about all Greek aircraft, such as aircraft type, weapons inventory and tail number...For example," 2 short, 2 Long, " says the pilot...what this means is that: he names it according to the range of the missile...short means short range (sidewinder), long means long range (AMRAAM)...he notes the weapons of Greek aircraft in type and quantity and reports them to the combat operations center...TURAF does not share such things...but in this case, there is a difference...our seriousness needs to be understood...the Greek side is playing with fire...let them not be stupid, Europe can no longer support them...
@Mando_9833
@Mando_9833 4 жыл бұрын
Unrelated to this video but I wanted to thank you for helping me figure out what I need to do to have my dream job. I’m a sophomore in highschool and figuring out my first steps to become a pilot. Even though I have a year until I apply for college it’s very stressful. I am going to apply for the USNA and USAFA and I am so glad I am researching now instead of later. I never imagined how much prep and work I am going to put in to do what I dream to do. But hey, I’m going to grind through it. Make them tell me no (twice). I have a long road ahead but I’m ready to take it on!
@peter12246
@peter12246 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck Eddie 👍🏻
@oghuzkhan5117
@oghuzkhan5117 4 жыл бұрын
To do what? Kill innocent people around the world, so the zionist can earn money? Or are you going to bring freedom to Afghanistan? And what makes you think that people in Afghanistan wants your kind of freedom and lifestyle? Is the world obligated to live like you?
@Trigenetic
@Trigenetic 4 жыл бұрын
Hi there sir! I got a couple of questions for ya being a Viper pilot. I got a motion rig and im curious if you can feel the weapon release well, Missiles and bombs? Also the cannon? If you wouldnt mind taking a quick minute describing if its a quick thump, sharp thing, how much you feel and so on you'd make a virtual one forever grateful! Cheers.
@kainhall
@kainhall 3 жыл бұрын
your gonna feel a "buzz" for the cannon . bombs your going to feel the drag reduction.... and if the flight computer doesnt adjust (or you are flying a plane with out)... its going to pitch up . missiles your just going to hear a WOOSH
@anasasasa12
@anasasasa12 4 жыл бұрын
H. A. F. 💪💪💪
@garyramirez1420
@garyramirez1420 3 ай бұрын
I just call it the F-16 fighting falcon ,thats what it is called by Lockheed Martin plus it also helps with the confusion for those who dont know what pilots mean when they call it by its nickname. I love the F-16 and grew up loving the F-16 and F-15 but my all time favorite is the F-15E because im a F-15 guy😎.
@goarif1
@goarif1 4 жыл бұрын
Pilot skills are most important. Even if the best jet is flying by sort of indian pilot Abhinanadan, anyone can shot him down.
@faizannasir8560
@faizannasir8560 4 жыл бұрын
What a joke.Abhi was shot down by Pakistani Pilots and they show the trash of mig21 which proved that none of missile fired by his plane
@TM-bn8pv
@TM-bn8pv 4 жыл бұрын
I smell a Pakistani vs Indian fight brewing in this thread already.
@VikashKumar-cf8yd
@VikashKumar-cf8yd 4 жыл бұрын
@@faizannasir8560 That's rubbish abhinandan shot f16 two pilots missing one is abhinandan who was another one ........ If it's Indian where he was dead alive........... What a lie
@TM-bn8pv
@TM-bn8pv 4 жыл бұрын
@@faizannasir8560 please tell me if I'm wrong you 2...I see it often in KZbin comments... You 2 are more like eachother than not, and that just doesn't include the Kashmir region..figure out the Kashmir region peacefully, stop taking religion to the extreme where killing is "fine", stop the HORRIBLE TERRORISM mainly Pakistan like the extremist Jaish-e-Mohammad....it's 2020 and all it is is a piece of land....Basically GPS Coordinates...we shouldn't think we need to be tied down to 1 region for our faith. You can still practice your religion pretty much on any piece of land in this world except North Korea. I'm not hating on either Pakistan nor India...in fact I loved both countries when visiting, just giving my personal opinion. I understand I am neither Indian or Pakistani so my opinion doesn't mean much. It'd be cool to see an Indian-Pakistani thread that wasn't like 2 children fighting over a ball.
@faizannasir8560
@faizannasir8560 4 жыл бұрын
@@TM-bn8pv First of all there is nothing like terrorism in Kashmir there is a freedom movement in Kashmir which is handled by kashmiri people.They are peace loving but India doesn't want their freedom that's why India deployed 1 million ARMED Forces on them and they can't live freely.
@charlesormond964
@charlesormond964 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like a training exercise to me.
@leonidasnorway9821
@leonidasnorway9821 4 жыл бұрын
Actually is training between turkish aircrafts, the Greek vipers is always in 6 o'clock of the turkish f 16 😉
@aykankepekli229
@aykankepekli229 4 жыл бұрын
Only in a figure of speech sense. This is a real dogfight between two aircrafts of two neighboring states. The reason it looks like a training is because the Greeks cannot pull over 4gs and are sitting on the sights of our Vipers constantly until the end of the hassle.
@RedTail1-1
@RedTail1-1 7 ай бұрын
The "SIM" on the HUD gives it away immediately....
@mrmen171
@mrmen171 4 жыл бұрын
it sounds different because the Turkish military reprogrammed the f16 entirely.
@THALASA
@THALASA 4 жыл бұрын
Bu savaşta ancak Lockheed yener amk, hurjet ve TFX nekadar erken gorersek okadar fayda.
@laststand6929
@laststand6929 3 жыл бұрын
gördük f35'in acınası halini
@agant6860
@agant6860 3 жыл бұрын
Hayır
@emircanonyl4924
@emircanonyl4924 3 жыл бұрын
@@laststand6929 f35 çok maksatlı bir araç. Yanında birden çok sistem yer almadan tek başına saldırıya gitmez, battlefield oynamıyoruz.
@laststand6929
@laststand6929 3 жыл бұрын
@@emircanonyl4924 böyle çok bilen tiplere de ayar oluyorum ha battlefield oynamıyormuşuz bak sen
@mcdonnelldouglasf-4ephanto607
@mcdonnelldouglasf-4ephanto607 3 жыл бұрын
@@laststand6929 Sanki bir şey hakkında bilgin olması için onyıllarını verip okuyup mezun olman gerekiyormuş gibi millete laf atanlara ayar oluyorum bak sen
@hasanklncarslan7536
@hasanklncarslan7536 4 жыл бұрын
Türkçe altyazı ??
@MariaMaria-pk8vv
@MariaMaria-pk8vv 4 жыл бұрын
Long Live Turkey ! Greetings from Gagauz Turk
@keithshoffner1287
@keithshoffner1287 3 жыл бұрын
hey hey C dub, thank you for the videos and the walk-throughs on the engagement vids as well as the accident investigation reports you do a really great job on them (imop). You said you thought the huds are maybe 480p, is there a reason for such a lo res ? The cost for upping the res isn't worth the value ? Your $00.02 please ? Thank you for your service.
@burakkaratekeli9115
@burakkaratekeli9115 4 жыл бұрын
13:39 short: means "in visible range" long: means "out of visible range" So he says two of them are in visible range and the other two are out of visible range but still on radar.
@mcdonnelldouglasf-4ephanto607
@mcdonnelldouglasf-4ephanto607 3 жыл бұрын
No It means 2 sidewinders(short) and 2 amraams(long)
@jimnaz5267
@jimnaz5267 3 жыл бұрын
you do a good job of sorting things out. thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge with us.
@jamesdelaney3109
@jamesdelaney3109 4 жыл бұрын
0.02 second Turkish pilot says behind pulling but i can hit one the front... 122.filoya selam olsun🇹🇷
@StraTURK
@StraTURK 4 жыл бұрын
Turkey made his own misssion computer software,greek side see friendly force to opponent side but it doesnt like at our side...
@badkarma2428
@badkarma2428 3 жыл бұрын
Israel through US will never let Greece or Turkey to have their own original softwares or anything else, that would be offensive for them, a greek turkish cooperation (if not friendship) wouldn't be good for Israel or anyone else in re rest of EU
@TheBlackHeart1903
@TheBlackHeart1903 3 жыл бұрын
@@badkarma2428 Well Turks do have their own mission control system
@DeltaSays
@DeltaSays 2 жыл бұрын
Turkish pilots experience such training or scenes a lot. But do these friendly gestures raise piloting skills around the world to the next level?
@fennviktorvich
@fennviktorvich 4 жыл бұрын
The video just gives me "Lock on: modern air combat" vibes, the breathing, the sounds and all.
@kainhall
@kainhall 3 жыл бұрын
you should check out DCS flight sim . its literally "lo-mac"... but with 2021 graphics and MUCH higher detail and MUCH better flight models every button and switch is clickable....
@maanmohammad8459
@maanmohammad8459 4 жыл бұрын
I think it is real however the Turkish pilots had orders not shoot down.They've had many during the years but non had shot down the other.
@orhangulez7322
@orhangulez7322 4 жыл бұрын
After This Hour, Greek Planes Will Be Downed, Man. Believe It.
@michaelharos5254
@michaelharos5254 4 жыл бұрын
A day later it was shown to be a fake it is Turkish on Turkish it's a propaganda video some Muslim and Arab countries thought it was real and then they had to come out and condemn it to why don't you just Google it ...funny when you read about it being two Turk fighters. you know the Greeks have the best pilots in NATO they always win awards and always beat turkey in the air.
@orhangulez7322
@orhangulez7322 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelharos5254 Michael What Is War For The Benefits Of Turks And Greeks? Why Isn't There Peace? Because France and the USA will sell weapons, that's the only reason.
@michaelharos5254
@michaelharos5254 4 жыл бұрын
Look Greeks and turns have there issues and always will. War is good for weapon sales. Oil too. I think nothing comes of it because the last 50 years there was only Cyprus. Which was big. But all it takes is a mistake and it drags alot of people in. As per the video it was deemed two Turk jets. Turkey flys into Greek airspace every day. Why? Seems like they want to start problems. To take away from there Lira issue.
@orhangulez7322
@orhangulez7322 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelharos5254 No Sin of Turkish and Greek People. Politicians Are Criminals.
@imranmoonis
@imranmoonis 4 жыл бұрын
Not fair, he didn't get a chance to adjust his rearview mirror.
@shakenama
@shakenama 4 жыл бұрын
Sim = I have you targeted, and have the ability to shoot, but giving you a stern warning to get the hell out of the area.
@Chinfo32
@Chinfo32 2 жыл бұрын
When carrying the fuel tanks, are those tanks constantly feeding the main fuel tanks in the plane, so when they are released the pilot knows he at least has full tanks in the plane.
@iceflame1167
@iceflame1167 4 жыл бұрын
Let me guess, the guy lost his edge and his wingman was sent to top gun.
@aleks1939
@aleks1939 4 жыл бұрын
He was a good guy
@candle_eatist
@candle_eatist 3 жыл бұрын
@@aleks1939 still is a good guy
@aleks1939
@aleks1939 3 жыл бұрын
@@candle_eatist Yeah, that's what I meant.
@latifa6241
@latifa6241 2 жыл бұрын
you didn't notice that the video was a sim simulation mote the turks forgot the sim on the video
@CWLemoine
@CWLemoine 2 жыл бұрын
I mentioned it.
@johnxina6823
@johnxina6823 2 жыл бұрын
He talked about it
@ddesops6422
@ddesops6422 4 жыл бұрын
Do not underestimate the Turkish pilots, they have shot down a Russian aircraft before, while the Americans have never lol
@khanataLEV
@khanataLEV 4 жыл бұрын
Its actually true xd
@Animalworld0669
@Animalworld0669 4 жыл бұрын
If I ask, can you delete your comment? It makes us happier that these Greeks look down on us and don't take us seriously; As Turks, we will achieve a much easier victory. Also thank you for your comment.
@eliesercepeda686
@eliesercepeda686 4 жыл бұрын
Vietnam war? lol we shot down plenty lol
@joshbentley7717
@joshbentley7717 4 жыл бұрын
You gotta be trolling me, do you know what a mig is?
@veyselturan577
@veyselturan577 4 жыл бұрын
Shooting down a russian jet was about pilots stregth. It was about having balls to shoot a Russian jet. Not every Nato member has caurrage to face Russian bear
@armzleggingz8496
@armzleggingz8496 4 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely real and this is the point the Turks are not needing to have a conflict they just want to do there work in the Mediterranean where as the Greeks should know better instead of being continuously pushing the boundaries their government should come to the table and talk these issues at hand instead of doing idiotic things for no reason when there is money to be made for both parties there’s only language and religion that separate these two countries and these two countries need to realise this
@bouxesas2046
@bouxesas2046 4 жыл бұрын
You seem very misinformed. Greece has called Turkey to the table and Turkish government is the one who is constantly threatening. The idiotic thing is sending a research ship before agreements and talks have been done.
@esad5510
@esad5510 4 жыл бұрын
@@bouxesas2046 the turkish government has said multiple times that they want to have a meeting. Its the greek government that is making the threats and begging to europe.
@recepozgerfiliz
@recepozgerfiliz 4 жыл бұрын
Hey greek guy your governmennt not giving you real answer the meis island dont have any land also your island to far away from greece if y guys not step down u will lost this island becasue of these islands must be dont have any soldier but we watched last day some greek military coup was in meis its only 2 km far away from us dont threat us this island can be uours but meditwrianen sea not for you this is the clear msg for u or one more time learn how to swim well
@bouxesas2046
@bouxesas2046 4 жыл бұрын
@@recepozgerfiliz Populated islands have EEZ, learn the international law and stop making threats. This is not the Ottoman times. You live 200 years in the past.
@bouxesas2046
@bouxesas2046 4 жыл бұрын
@@esad5510 This is what they said, but Erdogan is not responding to dialogue requests. What threats did the Greek government make?
@m3ntor332
@m3ntor332 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for not being biased
@austinolson585
@austinolson585 4 жыл бұрын
It's sad that we have to explain the name "Viper" to people who insist on calling it the "Falcon." Yes, the Air Force has gotten into the habit of naming fighters after birds of prey. What's funny is that the Army has a similar tradition. They name all their helicopters after Native American tribes. Even the UH-1. The official name is the "Iroquois." Know who calls it that? Absolutely nobody. Everyone, military or not has known the UH-1 as the "Huey." So if everyone gets to call an Iroquois a Huey, I think we can call a Falcon a Viper.
@code123ns
@code123ns 3 жыл бұрын
These videos have been popping up for decades now. Does anyone remember any time that either side was not in SIM?
@modanorelloi4069
@modanorelloi4069 4 жыл бұрын
I am enough old to remember it was called "FALCON" not VIPER. Am I wrong??
@emreyldz4324
@emreyldz4324 4 жыл бұрын
First, at 10:02 doesn't says he is tracking him, Turkish Pilot says "We turned him into a pudding." :D (in bored voice, because of many locks of multiple turkish fighters i suppose(Turks scrambled 11 F 16's against 6 of Greece) ) then he gets excited once again and he says " BUT I CAN HIT ONE IN THE FRONT". :) Secondly, Greek Ministry for Defence would immediately make a statement that these videos are not true. Third, there have been air to air kills before against "accidentally" from both sides while they were scrambling against eachother so they are causious about NOT A STARTING A WAR when tensions are these high especially. Fourth, because we have scrambled twice as many aircraft, there is nothing much to do i suppose from the Greek side. FIFTH, GREETINGS TO OUR GREEK NEIGHBORS FROM TURKEY 👋👋👋
@venpirethevampire
@venpirethevampire 4 жыл бұрын
"PULLING" diyor "Puding" değil.
@emreyldz4324
@emreyldz4324 4 жыл бұрын
@@venpirethevampire internette herkes puding anlamış ama pulling de mantıklı tabi "ooh oh" dediği için öyle geliyor sanırsam. cümle tam olarak nedir acaba pulling ise?
@venpirethevampire
@venpirethevampire 4 жыл бұрын
@@emreyldz4324 düşman HUD'undan çıkmak için kullanılan bir manevra türüdür. Stick'in çekilmesiyle olur.
@emreyldz4324
@emreyldz4324 4 жыл бұрын
@@venpirethevampire hocam pulling'i değil de telsiz kayıdında heyecanlı pilotumuzun dediği cümlenin tamamının ne olduğunu sormuştum.
4 жыл бұрын
Well fake or not the purpose was to land on Cyprus do some exercise with France and get back to krete.so excersise was successful and after 20 years greek fighter aircrafts landed on Cyprus
@johnathanasiou9284
@johnathanasiou9284 2 жыл бұрын
Mover, in all fairness to the Greek side. Ever since at least the 1990s, Turkish fighter jets have been constantly breaching Greek FIR, flying over Greek islands (clearly marked on aviation maps!) & it's hardly ever reported to the media outside Greece, nor does NATO seem to do anything about it & I feel constantly ignores the escalating situation. In the 1990s was in Rhodos island at my relatives house on holidays & could visually see a Turkish fighter jet (could easily make out the Turkish flag & lots of aircraft detail which shocked me) which I thought was ridiculous flying so close to civvy areas & it was being chased by Greek fighters. At the time I was inside the house talking to my relatives but we all ran out as the fighter jet noise was deafening & hard to ignore & we were stunned what we saw. Unless the US & NATO takes this situation seriously I feel a major conflict will spring up in that region as tensions have been escalating & the EU doesn't give a rats 😥
@xwc1322
@xwc1322 2 жыл бұрын
Oh boohooo for you😭🤣🤣🤣
@rrocketman
@rrocketman 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting analysis
@salaudinayobi6997
@salaudinayobi6997 4 жыл бұрын
Well done turkish bravo.....PAF 💪💪 TAF
@toygargamze7643
@toygargamze7643 4 жыл бұрын
6 greek f16,ın pocket 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@workspace5052
@workspace5052 4 жыл бұрын
Please make a video about Jf Thunder 17. Its Qualities. Its Pros and Cons. and then tell your expert opinion about Jf thunder 17 that where its stands among the4 or 4++ generation fighters. Regards
@mangeshchalan8786
@mangeshchalan8786 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't! Reson look at it's capabilities
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