Turn the Most HATED Pentatonic Position into Your Secret Weapon!

[@troydownwardmusic]

12 Licks just uploaded to Patreon with TAB! - Link in description.

[@BeardedGuitar]

This is one of my fav vids of yours man...really good stuff here!! I love that 5th position box, definitely agree it's under used!!! Thanks for the great content!!

[@troydownwardmusic]

Thanks for watching!

[@K-Gits]

Box five is that casual friend I stop by to see on the way to box (my favorite) five. Great lesson Troy, I always take something away from your posts. Thanks.

[@troydownwardmusic]

Love it! Thanks for watching!

[@lucrajamtracks]

These lessons are fantastic bro! Keep up the good work!

[@troydownwardmusic]

Thank you brother

[@paulshults4574]

What an outstanding lesson! Thank you for sharing these videos!

[@troydownwardmusic]

Thanks for watching

[@chrisgmurray3622]

So busy making my comment, but now I've actually watched your examples, it's as if you're doing some of that same stuff, but much better sounding than me!

[@troydownwardmusic]

Haha I’m sure you sounds great mate! Thanks for watching :)

[@bpatts1652]

I started using that box after seeing Robin Trower ripping in there !

[@troydownwardmusic]

Killer!

[@markmiles3447]

Thanks Troy - I’ll be studying this over the next few days I often use box 5 to add some minor flavour when using box 1 for a major pentatonic so I don’t have to shift my hand. But I always found it a bit limited mainly playing riffs on the G and D strings and not really using any bends. But your lesson has just opened up a whole load of new possibilities. Nice!

[@troydownwardmusic]

Love it! Thank you Mark

[@chrisgmurray3622]

I , for one, have been fascinated by box five for about fifty years since I stumbled onto these boxes while noodling at home one afternoon. I knew no scales or anything , but in doing a lick in two different octaves, I figured it was the same thing, but a different shape , and that after five of these"shapes" ( which is what I called them ), had played out, they repeated up the neck. I'd never heard the term " pentatonic" or anything else, but I knew a lot of chords, and was able to see that ( a couple of weeks later) , if you shifted the same shape down a few frets it still worked over chords , but sounded" majory". Then, of course , I saw the chord shapes inside the shifted two octave pentatonic modes, and I was off,... noodling for three years before finally working out actual major scales . To this day, I think more of chords than of scales when navigating, and something about that fifth box is so symetrical, that I've always dug licks out of it, especially by filling in the middle note in the shape on the top two strings, and skipping from the upper note on the third string to the upper note on the first string, and running back down the shape, often including those three chromatic bits on the top two strings.🎸

[@troydownwardmusic]

Awesome mate! Keeping Rockin!

[@chrisgmurray3622]

@@troydownwardmusic You bet, and I love hearing your playing on some of these licks, so keep them coming if you like!

[@gitarrenTag]

That was super helpful

[@troydownwardmusic]

🤘🏻🤘🏻 thanks for watching!

[@ericgrauer9866]

Awesome stuff thanks dude respect all 5

[@troydownwardmusic]

Thank you dude

[@joescmoe4784]

Good stuff, mate!

[@troydownwardmusic]

Thank you mate!

[@joshuasydnee]

Nice one Troy 🤟🤟🤟

[@troydownwardmusic]

Thank you man!

[@rickmooney4570]

What is the title of these examples on your PATREON page ? Excellent tutorial again!!!!

[@troydownwardmusic]

Hey Rick, thanks so much. They’ll be up in the next day - putting it all together now.

[@janezimmerman7987]

Bb minor, Db major, 5 flats

[@troydownwardmusic]

You’re definitely right!

[@janezimmerman7987]

@troydownwardmusic I noticed some time ago that I find it more difficult to visualixe the fretboard when dealing in non-guitarish keys, primarily the flat keys. So I started practicing significantly in the various scales starting on Bb. That'll give Db major - only one flat away from the weirdo Gb major - a visualization workout when working with Bb minor and related pentatonic boxes. The fret markers mess with your head in those flat keys after you've internalized the # guitar keys.

[@troydownwardmusic]

Totally agree! Some keys seem to be difficult to visualise on the fretboard.

[@mightyhammerhead]

🤔

[@troydownwardmusic]

😀

[@yourpetard]

Wow, so much from that stepchild of a position. Lol