Forza Motorsport - Developer_Direct, presented by Xbox & Bethesda

Check in with Turn 10 Studios and Forza Motorsport as the development team reveals how they’re building cars, tracks and audio that take full advantage of the Xbox Series X|S.

[@CarbonPhoenix96]

As much as I love the collector aspect in horizon, I really hope this has real progression. I want to earn my cars, get attached to them. I want to do a full championship in a shit box and slowly upgrade it

[@ChrisRawls]

This! I miss this style of progression so much.

[@Lastwil]

Definitely playing it game pass all the way 🎉🎉🎉

[@brodyroberts5230]

I would love progression. I think they will since it’s one of the biggest complaints of horizon 5. Not only that they are a different studio and their last game completely flopped after a year or two after release, they have reasons to try a bit harder this time rather than just milk money as they won’t make much if it isn’t good unlike titles like halo.

[@zagadape109]

Exactly. Collecting tons of cars in few days of playing takes away their value. Overstimulation of some kind. After some time no car gives any satisfaction. Pozdro666

[@defyyourlogic487]

This. I shouldn’t come anywhere close to even a 12 second car within the first 10 hours.

[@aat8345]

car-building focused single-player sounds great

[@canaryellow.]

yesss!

[@benson_weaver]

still just generic forza aero rn though

[@N3rdburgring]

@@benson_weaver yeah that’s a letdown. Hopefully they see these comments 🤞

[@AlexBehemot]

If what they say is true, that they focus on the build of the car, I hope that in the end if you change one part it will not only be reflected in performance, but also in sound and visually, it is very annoying to see that you change, for example, the entire exhaust system and continue to see the same crappy standard exhaust pipe, in some cars it is understandable, like lambos or porsches that in the begining have really good exhaust systems, but in more common street cars if you adapt it to race it is one of the parts that is most visually noticeable you changed it. And no, not in the Fast and Furious style or a "ricer", in a really tuned car Yes, that change is noticeable, and it is something that in GT7 and even in the crappy NFS games they understand, but Forza still seems not to, same with the suspencion (that still is dificul to see but it will be nice if) and brakes (in this case they change, but all cars ends with the same generic calipers and rotors, it is not realistic in that aspect). And finally, hopefully they finally have updated the modeling of the cars and it is not again a reuse of previous games and hopefully not so many complete body kits that are used in previous games and find more options for aero configurations used in the real racing environment, not the ones used in the streets like in the last Horizon games

[@noggin6870]

@@AlexBehemot you spent a long time writing up a question that you could have gotten an answer to just by actually watching the video

[@Peaceiscoming669]

Game looks nothing like this footage. Forza Motorsport has taken the crown from Ubisoft's The Division for the most downgraded game ever in history.

[@IHateEnglish10282]

We know that 😢😭 turn 10 is not the same anymore

[@bulkane]

"Built from the grooouund uppp" "Forza Motorsport is the most technically advanced racing game, ever made" ... you have to be ashamed by this kind of presentations, false marketing and the horrible launch state. why some rendering features are disabled such as RTGI? and where is the audio options for dolby atmos for instance? there is literally no audio quality and spatial audio options for now. Lack of global illumination & reflections even with RT on, all the cut track assets, due to the low quality materials and shaders: strange looking low detailed cars, unacceptable amount of bugs... such a disappointment and unexpected result by a game studio with over a decade of experience.

[@andrededecraf]

Another option that doesn't exist yet is ultra graphics, so far we only have high level graphics

[@callumbrown5375]

A lot of talk about the tech behind the graphics and audio, but I wished we'd get more of a breakdown on the tech behind the driving and how handling, and info and stuff like the pit lane.

[@driftosaure4815]

Like they talk about the 7 and horizon 5 but when you have some wrong sound on wrong car while they show us some irl sound record... Same for the customization, same ugly wings and fenders than every forza... common guys you can do better but i supposed they don't give a f...

[@RoarS89]

@@driftosaure4815 Was about to say the exact same, they've just recycled old shit, just like they've done in every other release.

[@darkside20b90]

Gran Turismo did the same thing and look how that turned out

[@boostedsuave3353]

​@@driftosaure4815 Theyre going deeper into the features and gameplay today during their Forza Monthly

[@boostedsuave3353]

@@RoarS89 ​ @Driftosaure Theyre going deeper into the features and gameplay today during their Forza Monthly

[@TimeBucks]

This truly looks worth the wait.

[@sagar805h]

Nice

[@YIDEOUS]

No the fuck it does not

[@muneermirza4301]

Nice

[@Vickythakurps512]

nice

[@Giftessentials]

Car racing is an exciting and thrilling sport that tests the skill and speed of drivers. It's a highly competitive and high-speed pursuit that attracts millions of fans worldwide. Watching this has made love car racing and secondly it fun to watch.

[@steveimator_m2]

All "Built from the ground up": 0:19 - 1:30 - 2:30 - 3:29

[@perfectxzero4037]

I don't get what happened. This was so promising and it seems like we just got a copy of Forza 7 with missing features. It's almost as if, after the game was developed, they realized it wasn't going to run on an Xbox, so they changed plans last minute.

[@andrededecraf]

Exactly what I think, they probably really made it playable, but when they tried to put it on the Xbox Series they realized what a mistake they made

[@ZX3000GT1]

Or just like how Ubisoft did it, it's just a really good looking vertical slice of a game they made just for the trailer.

[@diggy1147]

We're building hype for this game, from the ground up.

[@RyuusanFT86]

With lies even

[@caprise-music6722]

@@RyuusanFT86 tosser

[@RyuusanFT86]

@@caprise-music6722 ?????

[@TomTom-uc8it]

@@RyuusanFT86 tosser

[@RyuusanFT86]

@@TomTom-uc8it I don't know what that means. That must be some kind of low class slang you're using because you're offended for some reason isn't it?

[@utahraptor2121]

Only thing that bugged me is the fact that we are still using the same Forza aero that we've been using since what Forza Motorsport 5? Other than that everything else looks incredible

[@Nikko40691]

You must be new around here Kid. Try FM1.

[@existentialselkath1264]

They're using the same car models (which doesn't make sense) so they're using the same customisation too (which does make sense), but they claim to have hundreds of new options while still showing old ones (doesn't make sense)

[@a7xgunslinger]

@@existentialselkath1264 You saw a few minutes of gameplay, it does not mean that you will only have that wing.

[@andymb601]

@@a7xgunslinger he didn't say that, he said they chose to only show the old ones in the trailer, when it would make more sense to show something newer

[@D13G0V5]

@@Nikko40691 FM1 has different generic forza GT wings and yes it had more than one option, then in FM2 it was reduced to one option in which still looked good because it had good proportions and looked like an actual CF GT wing, it was in FM5 when they changed it to the forza wing we know about today

[@john7156]

In the first Forza Motorsport on the original Xbox if you hit or scrape the concrete wall, you can actually see the car’s paint color on the concrete wall itself. That was a really cool attention to detail for a racing game in that time. It will be great to see something like that in the newer games.

[@S.I.A_097]

Согласен,я недавно поиграл в forza horizon 1 и там столько классных фишек оказалось,неплохо было бы увидеть это в forza horizon 5 или в следующей части.

[@r-rod8116]

And in this game it gets even better. Can't wait for Forza Motorsport (or for me, I call it Forza Motorsport 8).

[@oleh_1337]

@@S.I.A_097 🤡🇷🇺🤡

[@oskarostroms]

@@oleh_1337 you’re attacking him for speaking Russian? you know more than just Russians speak it?

[@yareyaredawa]

@@oleh_1337 Extremely close minded

[@Lone_wolf_31]

It doesn’t look real, it doesn’t sound real, it doesn’t feel real

[@fadinrenegade]

I think "built from the ground up" is going to turn out to mean something totally different to T10 than it does to us.

[@jaspertandy]

Oh, was something built from the ground up in this game? They should've mentioned.

[@damians3978]

@@jaspertandy I can't tell if that was sarcasm....

[@jaspertandy]

@@damians3978 and I can't tell if that is sarcasm! (mine was - they said it so many times!)

[@gp8666]

Yea idk looks the exact same as sim games two decades ago but just with more pixels in texture files and a bit more effort into 3d models.... I bet roadside emergency vehicles will be the same low quality lunchboxes as they have been always

[@damians3978]

@@gp8666 But graphical differences are basically the only things “Sims” can change. I hope you’re not expecting a “Hot Wheels” DLC for this game like FH5 had.

[@CosmicKona]

One thing that I’m still hoping for that not a lot of people for some reason talk about, is the steering wheel being able to turn more than 90 degrees, no Forza game has ever had any sort of steering animation past 90 degrees, Im hoping we might see this possibly in the new Motorsport.

[@Lando_99]

Insane how this still isn’t implemented

[@TigerDave]

This, and proper motion blur.

[@Ugar333]

100% agree it's so weird they have such an unrealistic wheel animation. I wanna see them hands go!

[@attackhelicopter588]

@@Ugar333 like assetto corsa they should make it a slider where you can adjust it to your liking.

[@TheBigBentley911]

Yup that's a big one for me too. Without proper wheel support, it's just an arcade racing game.

[@nadtorus]

I believe the graphics and sounds will be really good, like other forza games as usual. But I wonder why the dev never do a marketing scene where they talks about tyre physics, penalty system, pit stop, etc.. you know, something’s important in a ‘motorsport’ world..

[@grantmckenzie787]

They did in the last one I think and they talked about track temps. It’s gonna have a whole tire physics update too with like 48 simulation points per tire vs the old 8 or 6, and there are now like hard or soft versions of tires

[@onkelandre4307]

it's allways the same Stuff. Good Graphics but the Game himself is Trash

[@x808drifter]

@@onkelandre4307 Exactly. They talked about that stuff as much as they did in this vid. Come to think of it they talked about it more in this vid. AWD glitch anyone?

[@trvpxstar]

@@grantmckenzie787 bro let them let people grasp these little details im sure there gonna get to that😹

[@logan5615]

Came here to post same comment 😂

[@pprince78]

This is lies and the game cannot run at 4k 60 with RAY tracing on series x during gameplay.

[@pprince78]

I have to correct myself as now the game has come out. I believe it does run at 60fps, upscaled 4k, so not true 4k but close enough and has limited ray tracing to in that mode.

[@QueChosen]

TAKE AS MUCH TIME AS YOU NEED, I’m just glad you guys aren’t rushing it!!!

[@Truenkyy]

Truee. I hope its better than whatever fh5 has become

[@Mysohvaperuna]

@@Truenkyy u cant compare motorsport and horizon😂 but i do agree horizon is a mess

[@Truenkyy]

@@Mysohvaperuna nah nah i wasnt comparing them, i was just happy that they werent rushing it, unlike what it feels like they did with fh5.

[@Pancake2185]

I agree. The delay is quite disappointing, but it's better than getting an unfinished product.

[@Mysohvaperuna]

@@Truenkyy oh yeah thats true! Same happend to fh4

[@danteeightsix9069]

I want to see details used in other franchises in the past. If I change the exhaust, it has a different exhaust. If I do weight reduction, it removes interior. Also, bring back Toyota and Japanese tracks like Tsukuba, Fuji, and Motegi. I also want to see more street cars. It's more fun to build up a street car for the track.

[@lukebroderick6920]

Tsukuba for damn sure!

[@RidgeRunner4501]

Weight reduction used to remove the passenger seat

[@ElShogoso]

Didn't they show a toyota LMP1 car in this very trailer?

[@heavy_ang_patay]

What rock do you live under? Toyota returned since 2020

[@LG4761]

@@heavy_ang_patay Toyota returned in Horizon 4, right?

[@sstamperr]

game looks and sounds absolutely wild but would've liked some more info about customization - and cmon, the forza aero needs to go

[@Nobody-jc7yb]

i agree dude😭😭

[@xxKURTMANxx]

1000% on the aero. Would love to see them show something that matters.

[@didnt_ask_for_handle]

They can't say anything about the customisation because everything's just lifted from Horizon. There's probably a handful of racing customisations and that's all you get. They couldn't even bother replacing the forza aero, there's nothing of note if that's the level of effort

[@stampiboy1]

What is forza aero?

[@sstamperr]

@@stampiboy1 that basic looking spoiler on the miata - it’s been in every forza game, it’s available on almost every single car and it looks absolutely horrendous

[@Masterchief0181]

Look Turn 10 U say ur making this game from.the ground up but i think ur lying Then u go and remove 6 New to Forza cars before Launch But please maybe bring some tracks from the old forza games back Like Alpine Ring or the shipyards

[@CG_Element]

i hope the game feels good on wheel and pedal setups with a really good online competitive mode. its something that horizon lacks, motorsport has the perfect opportunity to make that happen. then Forza will have both competitive and casual racing games with loyal fanbases

[@asherwiggin6456]

I’m a little concerned since I didn’t see anyone’s hand go past 180° rotation on the wheel

[@jackarmstrong7285]

@@asherwiggin6456 more than 180 degree animation was confirmed in prior trailers

[@nickshootsminis]

And I hope to god they let us choose FOV for those of us with rigs where the monitor is mounted just behind the wheelbase 🤞

[@firip255]

McDonald’s vs Wine…. I see The Same Engine Problems like past forza. I stick on gt7

[@NWA_1919]

If you want competitive racing, i recommend acc or iracing. Forza has always been a casual fun type of game, and i'm pretty sure it will stay that way.

[@ElShogoso]

My biggest concern about this trailer is that you guys spent more time talking about how realistic your paint is, than talking about any gameplay-relevant aspects such as game modes or how the progression is gonna work. Those things are all pretty cool, especially the new sounds which are a long overdue thing imo, but literally all I know about this game right now, is that it's pretty to look at. I'm fairly sure players will be more busy thinking about how well your cars drive, how fun it is to progress in your career, get new cars, upgrade them, etc, rather than closely inspecting your multi layered car paint.

[@Kylamity1]

Exactly my thoughts, no mention of tire model or race relevant physics, matchmaking or ranking improvements... Or maybe a penalty system? These are the things that drove the real multiplayer enthusiasts away from 7. If I didn't know better, I'd think this is another horizon installment with the way they are selling it.

[@trippykirby]

He did say that the physics were like never before

[@justinramage9204]

And on top of that, the same lame ass forza aero wing on the Miata!!!!!😢

[@MixedMilk1]

im sure they will have more trailers leading up to release that will show you those things.

[@CxDOGxLEM]

It's a racing game. You race cars.

[@fisken1]

The looks and sounds of this game i have no doubt in but the by far most important thing in my opinion is the car physics and the feedback you get through your wheel. Hope you put in even more time into these things than the graphics

[@clydefrog4959]

Not looking good for us physics purists imo. They mention ray tracing a dozen times and physics maybe twice. I'm willing to bet money that assetto corsa and competizione will beat it in the physics department.

[@northerner4995]

@@clydefrog4959 They also only mentioned the Xbox, most players on Xbox will be using a controller.

[@fisken1]

@@clydefrog4959 ye like that’s what keeps me in iracing other than the amazing racing. Game looks just decent but the physics are great

[@ahhaha5435]

i’m hoping the wheel feel is better than horizon. my friends and i have stuck to project cars 2 all this time.

[@pluggotic]

The thing I hope for is the ripping and sacking of content to be brought into Assetto. GT7 stepped towards simracing, I doubt Turn10 will ever get the balls to do that.

[@arthasakchaichana5699]

Chris Esaki "Built from the ground up" = Todd Howard "It just works" Both lies 😂😂😂

[@pdrtv6827]

2 Questions: 1. Full Pit Stop animations? 2. Endurance Races? Love to see Foza Motorsport back, I have faith in Turn10

[@ashdog236]

FM7 has endurances race though, you mean you want them to make it better?

[@NA-sb7xz]

3. fujimi kaido?

[@TurboCupla]

4. tire management? 5. new GT cars?

[@kylelyons1939]

@Bad Gaming biggest things endurance races lacked in FM7 was a penalty system, harsher tire physics, and a qualifying system

[@jackarmstrong7285]

@@ashdog236 Day to night is huge for endurance racing which we now have. And hopefully they add peer to peer driver swaps to top it off

[@brunoespluguesalabau7566]

If they focus on the physics it will be the game of the year

[@NikosM112]

*era

[@xOogieBoogie3x]

Good joke.

[@My40Love]

Good one my friend, good one

[@Владислав-д2у]

@johnnyriverside36 typical opinion of an arcade gamer.

[@mikblues_146]

@Johnny Riverside They do get it in their area, Gran Turismo 7 won as Racing GOTY in 2022

[@olympus__]

From a GT/DiRT/AC player, this looks good, my one concern is that they spent a lot of time talking about how good the paint looks, not about the core features i.e. progression, car handling etc.

[@Broontango]

Have you ever played 7? There’s honestly not a great deal they can improve from the sim aspects of things from 7 to the new one. It seems like a graphic/audio upgrade of 7. (Which can only be good)

[@RacingAnt]

@@Broontango Ok... FM7's physics were pretty average, to be honest.

[@noideayt1529]

my concern exactly

[@thikim7056]

ok

[@KG_BM]

They want to appeal to normies still

[@Themw3noobkiller]

This didn’t age well

[@saltychop9315]

Looks good so far, but would love to hear anything about steering wheel support and newer FFB engine implementations.

[@Azzucommerce]

This is the most important point.

[@gamerdrive5565]

I can guarantee if they have anything to say about it, it’ll start with; fRom tH3 grOunD ⬆️ 😂🎉😅😮😊

[@Jerry-tg2lj]

Yeah I wouldn't hold your breath, I would be extremely surprised if it's anywhere close to ACC, the original AC or rf2. Quite frankly this entire video felt like a marketing stunt with buzzwords and details to hype up the release, but who knows, maybe it will be that good.

[@gamerdrive5565]

@@Jerry-tg2lj FROM THE GROUND UP, BELIEVE IT OR END UP FROM THE GROUND DOWN. -this trailer.

[@Felixnelsonsr]

yeah this is definitely one of the most important part since sim racing is going crazy lately so a lot of player have FFB wheel

[@SpawnPoiint]

This looks incredible already. The mods and sound being dynamic is awesome!

[@xRaptorScreamx]

It's the same thing as FH5, they already did that. It's not "new" to Forza, maybe just Motorsport

[@TheSLAPTrain1]

Looks AMAZING!!!

[@jacobrev6567]

Its definitely Amazing

[@oleh_1337]

It's not what matters though. As always they spent most of the time talking about graphics and not gameplay. Also showing crashes and old forza wing in the first minute says a lot. Not a word about clean competitive racing, balance, pit stops etc

[@MrDana93]

It definitely "looks" amazing. The real question is does it play amazing. They have shied away from that question so far

[@magwol]

Yeah

[@pixelhotdish]

@@oleh_1337 Agreed. Maybe we will find out more tomorrow in the Forza Monthly stream. I am not a fan of the hype trailer things, where everything is about visual fidelity. Visuals only get you so far. I want them to hit on the online game mode mentioned in the trailer, and the single player career. What other features will there be? Time Trials? Can I set up custom servers and race with / against my friends? Thats the stuff that matters.

[@eliasnicolasmiranda4940]

That Chris guy is the Todd Howard of racing games

[@tawilk]

I hope they add in more realistic sim options like tire wear, gas weight, track temp, etc. looks really good so far.

[@duchuynhvuong1733]

ok

[@apolloxv8820]

That would require the avg forza player to give up bc they think the game is currently a sim lol

[@hasdachatlogs]

@@apolloxv8820 wouldnt another option be embrace the challenge? lol

[@apolloxv8820]

@@hasdachatlogs not for the average forza player. I stopped playing forza long ago as it’s copy paste with arcade physics. Forza is a child’s game and they should stay in that lane. The last forza was full of virtue signaling and 600 foot jumps lol

[@hasdachatlogs]

@@apolloxv8820 wait...wut? Are you talking about Horizon? Haha I mean ive only played FM a loooong time ago at a demo kiosk in Bestbuy but there's no way they have crazy jumps and stuff, thats definitely Horizon, right?

[@ccdt36]

would love to see more customable body kits not the same back wing we've been seeing for the last 10+ years

[@cipriani92i]

As soon as I saw the wing I knew the game was going to be as bad as every other recent forza

[@bcl7138]

They’re so attached to that spoiler

[@darnell1320]

Yeah soon as saw that old ass bumper and wing.. damn let down

[@estefano9e]

What a joke how they showed the same 10 year old mods when they talked about new customization

[@yeehaw3792]

Bro their fucking upgrade system has been the same since the very first Forza Motorsport for the original Xbox.... Like holy shit guys can you make it just a LITTLE bit more indepth?

[@bilobatedrip8314]

Would be cool if you could have the option to save the car as is after a race and be able to view it in a showroom, podium area, or on the track, giving you the ability to recall the tale of a race. Just a thought 🤔

[@gamebuddy69]

Yea, perhaps having the option to "Overhall/repair" it on a later date, if we choose to.

[@dnc_vice8133]

this is a simcade if not just an arcade game its made for the casual gamer.. even if there's hardcore sim racers out there. they would alienate a lot of the player base i feel like if they focus so hard on physics. Yes physics is important but their target audience is the general public who like cars, racing, and people who may be new to it. I think setting your expectations for the physics will make you really disappointed when the game gets released

[@isukarse]

@@dnc_vice8133 yea, sadly u are right. This wont be a new sim racer with amazing graphics like ams2 etc. But we will see, i hope it will still be fun.

[@deepblue8143]

That's a good idea.

[@NewtonNyambati]

Is there any modern game that does this? I remember Need for Speed 4 High Stakes used to have this. Your car would accumulate damage during the race (possibly becoming un-raceable) then you would need to spend in-game cash/credits to repair the engine, body, suspension, etc. You could even race a partially damaged car again if you wanted!

[@michaelcintron6768]

It's crazy how much they're lying about the technical feature set for the Xbox Series X and S versions. Smh

[@rileyvosper411]

yeah, every time a new game comes out they praise next gen consoles like they can run anything.

[@andrededecraf]

​@@rileyvosper411Your comment made me think of something I saw many times in the trailer... in the trailer and in all this marketing you can see the light spreading so naturally, I don't doubt that they they used the Lumen lighting technique and then realized that this would never run on a 3060 or lower...or on a series if it's more precise

[@MellowWater]

I wish they spoke about wheel support and gameplay. Like will there be practice and qualifying laps in single player championships and such.

[@Arashi_Raiden_Alt]

2 things: 1. I really hope they put as much work into every other track that will be in this game as they did into this Kyalami track, because if not that will be disappointing for everyone. 2. Really concerned about the fact that they did not talk at all about the car physics except for tyre wear, because if they don't get that right, so many people are going to tear this game apart for going for looks over gameplay, something no racing game should do.

[@ianlynch7889]

They talked about more than tyre wear

[@ICKY427]

id bet money the physics are no better than fm4. the real test will be using a ffb wheel. fm6 was the first time i used a wheel on forza and it was so disappointing. if this gets outdone by pcars then thatll be a big L, because thats not a high bar.

[@dsoprano13]

They mentioned that there is more physics than the last 3 games combined.

[@JC-li8kk]

Hopefully they were saving it for the next video. The one that gives us an official release date.

[@houcitydriftllc7168]

Yessss thank you, I was starting to think I’m the only one that noticed this!!

[@EverythingGaming]

I want this to feel as good as the first Motorsport games felt! I want to grind in a game like this. As much as I love the Horizon series, I hate being able to own 10 supercars within my first 2 hours of gameplay! I want to be grinding away in a D class car, slowly upgrading it and working to get that faster car that I'll need for the next championship! I'm glad to hear about the focused single player experience, and I hope it lives up to it! Can't wait!

[@quirkypurple]

Yes! That feeling of progression and levelling up via the current car you can afford.

[@Rallylabs]

It should be hard to get high end cars early on, and virtually trivial to get them in the end game. Earlier games had it perfect where continuing to level up gave you more and more money or better cars each time, and maxing out your brand level got you unlimited free parts with that brand. It gave the feeling of gaining fame and manufacturer support

[@barsaf9989]

Top tip: just go replay the old games because I'm sure it's all going to be the same stuff with this game. Old games > new games.

[@VancouverCanucksRock]

@Nick Steinmetz I don't think you actually played that BS gt7.....Or, you like being manipulated/played....

[@zesty7502]

@@VancouverCanucksRock Oh come on, I just know you've only played it at launch and scrapped it afterwards. It's easy to get cars now. Also, you can say the same with this trailer. You like being manipulated by visuals.

[@rxshovxx]

'Hard at work' The only hard work they did was sweating their ass off and doing nothing.

[@Luis7Vazquez7]

No updates on physics, which is what a racing game should be all about. Also from the shots where you could see the steering wheel, in NONE of them the wheel goes past the awful 180° rotation. Don't tell me it's still gonna be like that.

[@HaggisNHorsepower]

Big respect for not rushing the game. It certainly has paid off. Even just watching a trailer, it’s truly impressive. Hoping to see Kaido 🤞🏻

[@Houman.hafezz]

what's impressive I don't understand. If I work 6 years on graphics ofc it's gonna be impressive. tf is this they show 98% graphics and 2% cars and all are the same they copy pasted all of it

[@CaseyCollier]

@@Houman.hafezz "...they copy pasted all of it." Do people like you ever get tired of using the same, ridiculous argument? It's like you use the same two words to describe practically everything Turn 10 and Playground games have released in recent memory. Is there a new piece of content they have come out with that isn't "copy pasted?" I'd be interested to know what you think it is. Surely there's at least one.

[@QueChosen]

@@Houman.hafezzthey didn’t copy and paste nothing. Trust me when I say the game will be the best FM to date. If T10 was really out to fuck over us, we would of just got a release date for March and had a half baked FM7 situation. Since they’re pushing it back, tells me they’re actually listening to the fans.

[@recon1673]

@Special Spy There's an event going on tomorrow just for it iirc 😁

[@Houman.hafezz]

@@recon1673 what about the forza aero it looks ugly af and it's the same wing from 2013

[@RowdyGT]

Turn 10 gives me the feeling that hardly anyone in the studio actually practices motorsports and therefore look like posers, especially since they focus the most on graphics instead of physics… Physics is by far the most important aspect of a racing game, period.

[@cavejohnson5796]

Did you not hear them talk about physics

[@RowdyGT]

@@cavejohnson5796 For like 10 seconds saying nothing worthwhile, yes 🤣. Rest was "Look at how good the grass looks!"

[@cavejohnson5796]

@@RowdyGT they mentioned it in other interviews more

[@andoniliev3857]

So many lies were told...

[@BlueShift2000]

I really hope Turn10 finally does the driving physics right. Since FM5 it was downwards spiral, especially with FFB wheels. Let's hope for the best when it finally releases for the next gen consoles in a century.

[@JackMaslovCZLive]

They compeltely redesigned the braking and suspension physics in FH5 so there is definitely a change coming. Before that, all the way from Motorsport 6 to the FH4, these feeled almost the same.

[@benjibenji2333]

@@JackMaslovCZLive the fh5 physics are not comparable

[@JackMaslovCZLive]

@@benjibenji2333 Well, a little. But they are much more different than before.

[@shortstories3349]

@@benjibenji2333 Going back and forth between FM7 and FH5, there is a significant change in the feel. Even when FH5 initially came out, to how it stands today has been a great improvement.

[@emotionallydreaming435]

We all missing the one feature no one thinks about the pit stop crew?

[@jfieqj]

A little odd that there was almost no detail about the physics. The we tracks and 'rubbering in' are a good sign, but it would be cool if it has more advanced tire deformation sim and stuff like that.

[@JP-xd6fm]

They simply can't go the sim way. Too nische. They want to sell millions, so they need to focus on arcade with some sim components. Forget about tyre physics and so on. For what? if most of the people will play it with a controller? If you want a sim with very nice graphics get Automobilista2

[@atl3652002]

@@JP-xd6fm A huge complaint about Forza is how far it went from being a car sim. Gran Torismo on PlayStation is a perfect example of a good sim and Xbox no longer has a 1st party game that competes with it… They updated every system except the ones fans complained about.

[@DomGaccioli]

@@atl3652002 well said, you would think that the Horizon series would satisfy the graphics, and arcade type of play. It seems odd that they are approaching the Motorsport series as if it were Horizon. Like you mentioned, Motorsport used to lean more towards the Sim side of things… I guess that’s gone for Xbox users.

[@kevinherronjr3998]

@@JP-xd6fmno that’s what horizon is for.

[@JP-xd6fm]

@@kevinherronjr3998 Horizon: Arcade, Motorsport: Simcade at best. We will see.

[@AhmadGalalYT]

I was really hoping to see more in-depth, but if they are not rushing it then that's something I admire, if it means a much better game then I'm down for it. I just really hope that Forza Motorsport really lives up to the anticipation, aside from the amazing graphics and what they have shown, what matters is the actual gameplay, lets just hope that this time we have more attention to detail, greater improvements on the physics, car sounds, speed-sense, progression, and also I'm hoping to have more new to FM features such as blinkers, a visible pit-crew this time around, more steering angle...I really look forward to hear more...really hope this game is as great as Forza Motorsport 4 if not greater :D

[@stockrib2958]

They said 500 cars. 20 tracks. They said we've made from Motorsport 5 through 7.

[@Badj9]

Blinkers?…

[@alexkohl7343]

Flashers *

[@ImThatGhostz]

@@Badj9doubt forza would add blinkers or flashers

[@ALLBrandito]

Why would we need blinkers in a Motorsport game, it’s about racing, not cruising

[@JeeGurda]

Fast forward to 2024: this is the lowest rated and universally hated huge-budget racing game at this moment. Yes, this is a racing game that was sold on...visuals and environment 😂 Somebody needs to make a youtube documentary before they scrub it from the history - this is actually hilarious

[@BmikroB]

I don't know if there is one out there somewhere, but I bet that would be either Raycevick or GVMERS.

[@gregmayled]

Just hope proper car enthusiasts are in the team behind this, you can replicate that authenticity and it won’t come across well if you don’t have proper knowledgable driving and racing enthusiasts building these games.

[@Maverick9k]

You can tell there isn't any on the team from this trailer.

[@fifteen8850]

@@Maverick9k so you say 😂

[@ItalianMetalHED]

i think they did that with 4 and its no wonder it turned out to be the best one to date with 7 being close second lol

[@anusername8350]

@@emma6648 what rock have you been living under?

[@anusername8350]

@@Maverick9k how?

[@shanyebyt4899]

If they can deliver even 90% of what they have mentioned in this trailer then this game is going to be awesome. Visually it looks stunning so far.

[@stephenmartin5766]

Let’s just hope the gameplay is as good. Forza 7 was all hype on graphics but it was basically a visually polished Forza 6 with a few minor tweaks

[@pablocabezas1265]

No qualy! Jaajaja. Just another árcade to the market

[@VinnyUnion]

Look past the visuals dude

[@shanyebyt4899]

@@VinnyUnion Well they also referenced the physics model being more detailed than F5, 6 and 7 combined, dynamic weather, track evolution, dynamic time of day. In previous discussions about the game they have mentioned a new highly detailed tyre model for example. Yes there's still a lot they haven't talked about but I can't say I'm not optimistic with what they've talked about and showed us so far. I'm not just a visuals focussed person, if I was I wouldn't have a dedicated sim rig and high spec pc in my log cabin.

[@1lovesvideos]

As long as they also bring back to Toyota I'll be happy

[@Sile]

I REALLY hope this hits the right spot, with a solid multiplayer experience and above average controls for wheel & pedal combo's. Not expecting a sim-cade to feel like ACC or iRacing, but expect it to feel at least 80% the way there. Really looking forward to it. Hope it supports the large amount of wheel and pedal options available these days.

[@Brentt777]

Forza Motorsport is more realistic than iracing is. In my opinion. You don't see cars skyrocketing into orbit like in iracing.

[@metaridley77]

This needs to be done. It must match, at least, Gran Turismo's wheel experience, which is way better even in GT5.

[@laurasfar18]

Only a few games is advanced enough to make it feel like driving a real car. Forza has never been close to that and i don't think it will happen this time either.

[@astrarobotica]

@@Brentt777 The driving physics don't even come close to iRacing's level of detail.

[@minigungaming5915]

@@Brentt777 This is the most ignorant thing I've read. FM has extremely unrealistic physics in every area.

[@am21sg019]

Built from the ground up(SCAM)

[@TakeNoShift]

Bring back the Motorsport 4 tracks! Especially Fujimi Kaido!

[@xAntrim]

Looks amazing, can't wait for when it finally releases ! to see how the physics feel in hands

[@Mysohvaperuna]

That crash scene looked amazing

[@faizunal5452]

@@Mysohvaperuna you should see the GRID

[@ollyjay07]

I hope the physics translate well to SIM setups fm7 wasn't good . Fm8 is speaking the right language but it's time to show a full race on wheel with a pit stop

[@AppleLauda_destroyer99942]

The driving physics should be the same as on GT Sport because I would destroy everyone on Nordschleife xD

[@hubertjaniec2698]

@@faizunal5452 you should see Beamng

[@memo29b]

As good as the improvements sound, handling and graphics were not the issues with FM7. It was the lack of competitive multiplayer, race strategies and penalty systems which none of have been addressed so far.

[@ashdog236]

I’m glad somebody else appreciates FM7 physics, I can see how they’re outdated now but even when it first came out people said it was crap and GT7 was better. I buy a PS4 after playing the last of us at a friends house, i finish the last of us and give GT sport a try, the cars stuck to the road like glue, doesn’t move around naturally, no oversteer, no brake locking, feels really bad physics wise, I really don’t get the hate for FM7 physics, for the time it was released in 2017, the physics are amazing and hard to control, which I like.

[@masonraymundo7961]

This. Very worrying that 6 minutes are taken to describe the paint, crashing physics, and fucking tree realism, and only 15 seconds at the end about a reworked online system

[@masonraymundo7961]

Ultimately a shame as an exclusive Xbox player to see how much better Gran Turismo is for actual racing fans. Forza is just a graphical flagship to showcase the newest Xbox tech sadly. Hope I’m wrong! 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@dumpsterjuice6088]

@@ashdog236 because games like assetto corsa exist

[@ashdog236]

@@dumpsterjuice6088 Games like assetto corsa aren’t as quick and easy to get into like GT and FM, you have to invest a lot of time and money to not only pay for but learn to use a wheel. I got my first wheel and pedal setup two weeks ago, I consider myself a decent FM player on controller, I suck on wheel but I’m not giving up and playing with the settings and learning the game on the wheel, once I’ve mastered the wheel and pedals, I’ll buy Assetto Corsa but it’s not that easy to just pick up and play if you don’t have right equipment

[@randellrutan8630]

I think the only thing I could be hopeful for is that they bring back Mt Fuji. I miss that track so much and there aren’t any sim racers with good touge style tracks. I used to spend hours upon hours on that course building the uptime downhill and hill climb cars.

[@Eddy929292]

Sounds fun. Makes me wish they would do the next Horizon game in Japan

[@Beugatti]

All I want to know is how many more customization options do we get after the same stuff for 10+ years. Also, Fujumi Kaido better be returning!

[@jakobsmith5575]

We need Fujimi back!

[@KingXyroVII]

They still have that forza spoiler from 2012 unlike Gran Torizmo 7 you can actually customize almost every bit of aftermarket parts

[@Josiah_Richards]

Isnt that the track from FM4??

[@Beugatti]

@@KingXyroVII I'm expecting to be disappointed that's for sure haha.

[@Beugatti]

@@Josiah_Richards certainly is, we've been missing a good road/mountain track for a very long time now.

[@Brooksey1992]

I’m worried about this game. All they’ve said so far is how technically impressive it is - no mention at all on the driving, or the career mode. It’s looking more and more like a tech demo, just like FM5 and FM7 were. I hope i’m wrong, but it isn’t looking good, all they want to push is “NEXT GEN RAY TRACING SERIES CONSOLES.”

[@QueChosen]

It’ll be a groundbreaking game for sure. Physics are pretty solid if you get what I mean. Them pushing it back is for a good reason I promise.

[@distantblaze561]

That's exactly my concern. It's seems that every Motorsport game since 4 has just been absolutely disappointing and more and more awful.

[@austinbaccus]

@@distantblaze561 it's been downhill since 4. The graphics get better, but the games are less fun to play.

[@distantblaze561]

@@austinbaccus That's exactly how I feel. More soulless with every sequel even if they're technologically better. I don't know how they can stuff it up so badly.

[@raybr5060]

I really hope you guys make it so the wheel is able to be properly competitive. I have doubts after not even seeing it in this trailer.. just don’t let us down!

[@RIBZ85]

My concern as well they didn't show anyone using a wheel I did see one in the background my concern is they will focus more on controller I hope I'm wrong

[@raybr5060]

@@RIBZ85 I don’t mind if they focus on the controller, I just hope the wheel isn’t literally redundant, as it is with FM7. I just hope they improve it and make it actually somewhat close between the two. Obviously if I had a choice, I’d say wheel over controller because that makes more sense to me, but, I just hope they give us more info tomorrow during the livestream

[@rockingamer100]

Hopefully it's better than horizon 5 which didn't even work really at all with my thrustmaster TMX wheel I could never get the settings right and I still to this day can't use my wheel in the game I literally can't drive in a straight line and I'm always spinning out

[@joshbacon8241]

@@RIBZ85 When really, they should be focusing on both controller input AND wheel input.

[@raybr5060]

@@rockingamer100 lol, i agree. Horizon games have never been good with wheels though. Even FM7 felt light years ahead of any Horizon game

[@TheeKingV]

“Built from the ground down”

[@Houman.hafezz]

-No release date -Probably same body parts and the same amount of body kits + 5 new body kits -The same Forza Aero that was in FORZA MOTORSPORT 5 -They've been working on graphics for 6 years and they will show it off for the next 10 years -They took the 900 forza motorsport 7 cars and removed 400 of them and added 100 new cars Disappointed! L Forza

[@jarivanweelden2041]

Dont buy before there is an update. Game is worthless playing. Dont save anything in carreer mode. Save money and buy later!!!

[@SB3_01]

Chris is the Todd Howard of racing games.

[@Rustic_3851]

Chris Esaki literally took “It just works” to a whole new level 💀🤣

[@nissan3609]

Not the old forza aero 😭

[@LG1ikLx]

I would rather the game look average then have the most realistic driving experience, the coolest race campaign and awesome online events. Then be photo realistic and have an avarage driving experience, campaign and multiplayer. This is the perfect time for Forza to rake in a huge amount of players after how bad Gt7 turned out to be. So they should be taking advantage of this and deliver a great product. They could tap in the sim racing market and have Horizon for that arcade experience. Motorsport is great but what let's it down is it lacks any real challenge. Anyone can jump on and hit perfect drifts and perform well. It needs be have a more realistic feel for the cars. Just my opinion thou

[@cameronbrown9266]

So it’s going to be $100 for the same game for the last 18 years with the same tracks, same cars, same career mode? this time with ray tracing and better audio? Oh and it’s in 4K! How could I forget….disgusting

[@jdmdriver34]

I hope the physics are better to play on the wheel this time, and of course, i hope they finally get rid of that 180° steering lock that's been there for years. Otherwise, it looks like just a step up from FM7, I hope I'm wrong

[@alizandy2478]

Bro I really hope they change it, this makes it more exciting and realistic

[@jdmdriver34]

@@alizandy2478 Yeah, because i think, at this very moment, to compete, Forza needs to be on Par with the consistency of the physics that GT7 offers, if not, it will not grab the attention of many and it's going to be another of those recent FM games since FM5

[@chrislickytung]

bold move calling it the most technically advanced racing game ever made, be interesting to see how it holds against AC and iRacing with it's "realism"

[@stephenb1367]

It won't

[@chrislickytung]

@@stephenb1367 oh I know it won't 😂 they can't even do away with their crappy Forza Aero

[@mintgoldheart6126]

Damn it, Stephen B stole my line.

[@Speed_hunter]

I have a question why do I need an Internet connection to play your boring ass career mode? Like I’m driving against AI why do I need an Internet connection to drive against AI?

[@RomanKokosh-o6h]

bro, who cares about grass and reflection. you didn't tell anything about racing

[@sparkietrap6257]

Why does the Mazda have Forza aero 🤮

[@97NROD]

Please don’t tell me they reworked everything but kept the same Forza Aero!? :(

[@joshuaquinones9760]

3:29 Seriously, how has no comedy club signed him up yet???

[@MrAlexH9121]

Hopefully this game captures me and excites me as much as FM4 did 🙂

[@Colossians312]

Yea I hope it comes close to it fr

[@ant7018]

Fujimi won't be in it though. Forza and japan don't get along

[@MrAlexH9121]

@@ant7018 apparently not 😐

[@mobischuu]

1:03 oh no, that rear wing again

[@pinky373]

😨😭😭😭 noooooo

[@D_LGND]

Forza community: “Our disappointment is immeasurable and this game is ruined”

[@DatSamuelwhoissus]

THIS REAR WING SUCKS!!!!🤬🤬

[@julls42]

MAKE FORZA WING GREAT AGAIN...

[@TheMcpro50]

T10: best I can do is nope

[@carguy9863]

Please fix that hideous Forza aero shown @1:02 But knowing how you guys are, you probably won’t bother. 😒

[@paw182]

I used to really enjoy working through getting race licences way back in early Gran Turismo games, that grind really made you feel like you had put in some work and that you had earned the cars and tracks on offer. This model is dearly missed in Xbox titles and was so fun.

[@TimmyTheSnail]

Yes exactly! GT3 & 4 was so good for that progression. I really hope they have something similar in this game

[@CreweMike]

It was sad to leave the old Gran Turismo behind. Fond memories of licences, being careful with credits, modifying cheap second hand cars until you get that brand new GTR, and the courses, particularly Deep Forest, Seattle and Midfield Raceway. I don't feel I'm missing out with not having GT7 though. It's not the game it once was, for me anyway and Forza does a great job. Love the Horizon games too.

[@iLuvCats]

Such good childhood memories.

[@GreyDintZ]

Been with GT since the beginning, GT7 has the best of all the GT games, and so much more. The only downside is microtransactions, which don't affect me, I'd never use them anyway. GT in Vr taught me racing on a TV is so wrong. So unless xblock gets a VR headset and full support the game is never going to compete with GT. The VR in GTSport was very limited, but showed the obvious advantage. Looking into corners, our out your side window while drifting, the feeling of driving that a TV can NEVER produce. Can't wait for PSVR2!!

[@soQuickzz]

@@CreweMike you obviously haven’t played GT7 because they brought all that back

[@DareTruthor]

Lies from the ground up. It looks, drives , feels nothing like these clowns are claiming

[@10219266]

I hope there is some focus for sim racing enthusiasts as well, I would love to see some vr support for this game on pc. if not at launch maybe in a later update or some dlc or something. very excited for this game!

[@gelspeed1]

you are asking for too much, that will be the same arcadish game as before with horrible physics, but with better graphics and it looks like better sounding

[@5thsgamingreplays518]

is there truth to an actual race day. practice, qualify, race

[@ciello___8307]

just looking at the trailer, a lot of the race cars are old models from over 5 years ago

[@kylelyons1939]

@Ciello ___ they are probably told by Microsoft to not show anything new. They did show some tidbits of one of the 5 new tracks. Not to mention that maybe things just aren't ready to be shown. We still haven't even been given a concrete release date.

[@tmane.7848]

@@ciello___8307 a lot of them are also newer ones…

[@GOLD3NR1D3R]

W acting

[@Josh_reilly]

Honestly what I’m hoping for most is improved divisions, nothing rips you out of the immersion like seeing cars from different seasons on the track at once

[@estefano9e]

Like in the Horizon series, you're in an off road race racing a trophy truck against lifted jeeps lmao

[@fuzzyquils]

@@estefano9e Wdym that's the best part. XD Horizon's great for stupid shit like that tbh.

[@D3R866]

@@fuzzyquils horizon should have stayed like that was so of the most fun

[@Stubot182]

@@estefano9e even better a McLaren of some kind converted to 4 wheel drive on off road tyres vs a Land Rover defender, I love the creativity in FH but I want a bit more realism in FM 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@putrid2529]

@FuzzyQuils sure it's "fun". But a good portion of us appreciate the unique driving characteristics different cars have and the fact that they all can't compete evenly (the way horizon portrays driving). That's the beauty of the original Forza Motorsport series. Similar cars competing in realistic classes based on their characteristics and limitations.

[@existentialselkath1264]

you keep referencing the all new multiplayer and campaign but have yet to say a single thing about it. Will we have penalties and systems in place for cleaner racing? Will the campaign have more thoughtfull progression? There's also a mix of replay shots with RTGI and gameplay shots with just RT Reflections and while both look incredible, it should be clarified which is which

[@jasonthacker5926]

Well it sure looks and sounds great. I have all the Forza Motorsport games and NOTHING has been better than Forza Motorsport 4! FM5, 6, & 7 looked good too but never made me feel as if they were better than FM4. FM4 is still the peak of Forza. I hope they finally capture that feeling again, along with the sound and looks in this new Forza Motorsport. FM4 had 500 cars too. FM7 has the most at 700 base game. So total number of cars took a backseat to looks and sound in the new FM. Well if the game is as good as FM4 preferably better than all FM combined. They can always add more cars later. Main thang is. Will it finally be the best version of Forza Motorsport. The total package: Sound, Looks, Gameplay and Cars that give you a connection to some aspect of your life! Cause as a car guy. What you seen, drove, took to car shows, and raced at the track or strip. Will cause a bigger connection to the game. Than just sound or looks of some cars most of us will never acquire in real life!

[@JasonArts]

Reality is Trash

[@ShadowRacing]

Beautiful! Will the physics favour Wheels though? Because that's what we all want.

[@distantblaze561]

It'll have wheel support, but as always you'll be penalized for using it as the console controller users get priority EVERY time, and they won't ever give you an option for an online lobby with "Wheel only" settings.

[@bboy69sa]

So great to see Kayalami in a racing game! Lived down the road from that track for 15 years!

[@SlowBloke123]

Acc and ams2 already got it.

[@mintgoldheart6126]

@@SlowBloke123 and it's laser scanned in those games

[@SLNT0817]

And you can have it for bikes too. Ride 4 is the option

[@mintgoldheart6126]

@@SLNT0817 easily one of the most satisfying games out there.

[@keletsomashapa6542]

I wonder if they’ll add loadshedding to kayalami race track…

[@TheJamesm1980]

Always a game I go back to. This looks insane. Please live up to the expectations

[@Speed_hunter]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@MRworldEtIkA]

sad

[@prod.roadrunner]

Would love to see more engine upgrades made available as well as more in-depth tuning.

[@carreviewer6345]

Why aren't they calling it Forza motorsport 8?

[@warawana]

@@carreviewer6345 Probably another "10 year plan" game like Halo Infinite.

[@carreviewer6345]

@@warawana Unrelated but they should remaster fh2 and fh3 and every car in the games should be available and shouldn't be acquired by real life money

[@MrXaniss]

I disagree with the tuning, I dunno, having to spend hours upon hours to get the most out of cars is... Well not good imo

[@warawana]

@@MrXaniss i think its good to have tuning as long as most of the normal online races are all fixed setups. Just my opinion on it anyway.

[@vladratcu]

Spring 2023, now it is just 2023... Next will be holiday season 2023

[@dillanmistry]

Forza Motorsport is the gaming series I’m most loyal to, since childhood, glad to see your keeping it going

[@pokellector_nl6712]

what a shitty childhood man.... Gran Turismo all the way!

[@dillanmistry]

@@pokellector_nl6712 😭😭don’t worry I played that too on my ps vita the sounds in that is nostalgia

[@Dark58p]

I hope they dont launch it with only 20 tracks, 35 should be the bare minimum.

[@gbalao8885]

Same with just “over 500 cars”. Hopefully more are being worked on as they speak. The release date is still a bit far away though.

[@beyond72deepsoulfulhousemixes]

'20 on day one'. They've mentioned adding content is easier than ever, so let's hope we can get more over time.

[@meinhard2974]

Add Jeremy Clarkson's voice back into the game ❤ It gives players a car enthusiast vibes

[@OpptimusPrime1]

Hammonnnndd :D

[@Username-jb2vs]

Don't forget James may

[@SCORP1ONF1RE]

nah, im sick the english accent!

[@OpptimusPrime1]

@@SCORP1ONF1RE we arent 😂

[@apexracing9479]

"Built from the ground up"has me cracking up everytime i hear it. I hope it will be the best racing game in a while if they want to nail it at launch.

[@86lanzo]

You clearly don't understand what the statement means

[@ashdog236]

It means they threw away everything used in the previous Motorsport games and started again from the ground up, not real,y sure why that makes you crack up

[@TheBio42]

@@ashdog236 never ever, simply look at the damn supercharger or the typical Forza aero. What do you wanna bet that electric cars still don't work correctly, hybrid systems will not be implemented and AWD still won't work in reverse? 500+ cars at launch? FH5 had 543 at launch and these models here look just like the old ones (especially the muscle cars and bimmers). This will be the same shit like every year. If they don't have a full 2022 car lineup I'm definitely out.

[@shovsoft]

The delivery of all the superlatives is groan worthy.

[@ashdog236]

@@TheBio42 and how do you and the 6 other donkeys who liked your comment even know that these systems like AWD and aero wings (who gives AF) and the other things you asked aren’t implemented in the game when you haven’t even played it? How can you tell anything about AWD system from this trailer? Can you see the physics? Why do you want the same model car from FM7 to look any different when it’s the same bloody car? What do you even mean? How can the same model look any different in the new game if it’s the same car? What are you even on about? 💀

[@rsr9377]

This looks really great. I hope there will be more city circuits too!

[@valerioguardiani8310]

a release date would have been appreciated

[@Mysohvaperuna]

Who gives a fuck? 😂 it says 2023 thats should be enough

[@ItzStardustYT]

Chill out. Let them take their time, like they have been.

[@purabkothari238]

Probably gonna come out tomorrow during the Forza Monthly

[@NFSlegend2]

@@purabkothari238 doubt, this was the "big" update. Doesnt make sense for them to reveal such a big thing a whole day later

[@Arizer01]

Probably going to come out near the end of the year sadly. Hope I'm wrong but I believe that's when the last few FM were released.

[@seanj5249]

16 times the... I mean 10 times the detail! Yours truly -Bethesda

[@WILDER1073]

Only problem I see so far is 2 things 1 forza aero is back why and only over 500 cars at lanch but that could change that is the only complaints I have I really hope this makes FM7 look like FM2

[@Tier1Norseman]

Hopefully they add more mods per vehicle since it feels like most of the older games had minimum mod options.

[@gmil5804]

Still no change on the forza areo tho. Kinda disappointed there

[@okieg8960]

@@gmil5804 same shit wing, we’ve had for 15 years

[@kenohki3492]

Beautiful trailer. Hopefully the final build will be the same and play as good as it looks!

[@titvitequelcriss]

didnt remember a bad Forza !

[@jobinsone2740]

Must be new to Forza.

[@mohawk4759]

@@titvitequelcriss Horizon 5