Turning a Pine Tree Into 4x4 Timbers

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Fall Line Ridge

Fall Line Ridge

5 жыл бұрын

Making lumber from a small pine tree on a Wood Mizer sawmill.
Proper way to do the rake trick: • Stick Trick How to me...
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@robertjohnson3828
@robertjohnson3828 4 жыл бұрын
I am an 82 year old Virginia man, who loves dogs. 'Cricket' looks like my kind of digger!
@merc9nine
@merc9nine 2 жыл бұрын
why did I watch this whole thing? Why is this soothing?
@aronsmith4768
@aronsmith4768 2 жыл бұрын
You have my respect. One hard working guy for sure. I had to spend the extra money and get something with a lot of hydraulics due to my age and poor physical condition. Learning a lot from you. Thanks from the pine tree state of Mississippi. 🙈
@LDeezy662
@LDeezy662 5 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate all the camera angles I know that is a lo of extra work but it doesn't go unnoticed
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
Bankhead_662 Thank you! It does take a while, but I like the final results!
@kirkwest6654
@kirkwest6654 2 жыл бұрын
I seen the drone footage in the beginning and I was impressed
@bwillan
@bwillan 5 жыл бұрын
A milling tip I saw on another youtube channel was to obtain your largest timbers from your smallest logs. If you need a 6x6 or larger, get that from your smallest tree that will yield that size. This produces less waste overall. The flip side of that, is if you need a large number of small size lumber, get those from your biggest logs, as those will yield the greatest number of that size. Overall minimizing waste.
@Luckingsworth
@Luckingsworth 2 жыл бұрын
Just make sure you cut your large timber first so that you don't run out of the big trees if you need them for the big timber ;)
@mikehornsby599
@mikehornsby599 5 жыл бұрын
Great job enjoyed that, looking good!!!!
@ericmcrae7758
@ericmcrae7758 5 жыл бұрын
The method you used to see where the tree would end up is an old method we used 60 years ago in the Scouts to estimate the height of a tree, it still works.
@oldschoolmachinist1938
@oldschoolmachinist1938 5 жыл бұрын
Another good video, thank you. I'm going to have to check out that rake tip video that you're talking about. It also looks like you have more firewood to add to your new firewood shed😆. Have a good and safe summer.
@usapatriot4513
@usapatriot4513 5 жыл бұрын
Love the rake tip at the beginning of your video and that winch is a great idea and a life saver no doubt. Sure is nice making your own lumber the mill will pay for itself over and over with the savings of not having to buy the lumber you need. Keep on making your videos I look forward to watching them!
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
U S A Patriot Always appreciate you watching! That drill on the winch is a game changer!
@Will7981
@Will7981 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video.👍🏻👍🏻
@davidkilbourne8308
@davidkilbourne8308 5 жыл бұрын
Great video !
@WillowRunMills
@WillowRunMills 4 жыл бұрын
What I do when trying to keep the pith level is I keep some scraps laying around and set them under the small end to shim it to the same height. Just make sure your blade clears the log, measure from the pith to the blade. Without moving the blade check the other side and shim accordingly. I keep a wooden fence post to use as leverage to lift the end
@zizosengar
@zizosengar 2 жыл бұрын
Very impressive thanks for this amazing video
@glenngoodale1709
@glenngoodale1709 5 жыл бұрын
Good video thanks
@thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849
@thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! I have been a subscriber for a while but have never left a comment. Really enjoyed the demonstration of the "stick trick"! This is a really old logger/lumberjack technique which a lot of modern tree fellers have no idea how to use. You did a good job of explaining it. With practice you can become almost deadly accurate. I think you do an exceptional job of the video quality inn, position. Also, I really enjoy your pace at work which I try to emulate. Keep up the great work. John
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, John. I appreciate you watching!
@joankamp4513
@joankamp4513 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like you have perfected getting those logs up on the platform.
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
Joan Kamp Agree. I don’t think I could do much better. Appreciate you watching!
@practicallyIndependent
@practicallyIndependent 5 жыл бұрын
That tree falling trick works well. I had a neighbor who was a logger and he showed me that trick using just a stick. If you do it right its impressive how accurate it is. Great video and nice milling! 👍
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
Dillons Woodworks Thanks, Mike! It seems to work well, just need some practice!
@videocyphier1984
@videocyphier1984 5 жыл бұрын
Just from your videos. I bought a lt10. It's a great USA product.
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
Spartan Angus I cut a bunch of lumber on mine! They are solid, simple machines.
@131dyana
@131dyana 5 жыл бұрын
Good luck with your machine.
@adolfosomoza4790
@adolfosomoza4790 3 жыл бұрын
Hola excelente video mucho trabajo pero se hace con responsabilidad y seguridad cuidate mucho Saludos desde Panamá provincia de chiriqui
@billmitchell7731
@billmitchell7731 4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. I think most men would love to have a sawmill👍👍👍
@Bobby-mg1uj
@Bobby-mg1uj 4 жыл бұрын
...and quite a few women, myself included.
@christyb7590
@christyb7590 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. I am learning and researching what I really need.
@M5tworude
@M5tworude 5 жыл бұрын
I don't have toe boards but keep an assortment of shims to level the center of the log. This practice improves efficiency
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
Stephen Rude Great tip, thanks!
@morgansword
@morgansword 5 жыл бұрын
Reading the tree is a art form that comes with time and your already making steps that lead to saving steps. For one hing, your not trying to saw the tops off the braces and that is a positive thing. The pith if you can get rid of it is a good thing but don't worry yourself over it as he lumber that you get at home depot. It is what it is and use the wood accourdingly. You won't waist as much and the wood will lay better when you hang it. If you soak your wood inalake, the sap will come out in the water and the logs won't curl as bad. You can get the wide boards and good quality too.. Old indian trick dad taught me/LOL
@backwoodshomestead482
@backwoodshomestead482 5 жыл бұрын
If you will put a one by or two by, depending on the taper off your log, under the small end for the first two slab cuts, you will be very close to centering the pith. Less waste that way I've seen you do it before, I think, so maybe you just forget. I forget too, as I get all excited wanting to see what's in the log! Love you videos...
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
Appalachian Mountain Homestead Yes, I’ve done it before, but sometimes I get lazy. Appreciate you stopping by.
@donaldtrabeaux1305
@donaldtrabeaux1305 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
Donald Trabeaux Thanks as always, Donald!
@edwardleroy7648
@edwardleroy7648 5 жыл бұрын
Keep us up on the adjustment of the mill travel adjustment please. Do you have a drill press and a welder?
@woodchucktinman9893
@woodchucktinman9893 5 жыл бұрын
You do not need toe boards to keep the center even. I just use some aluminum blocks and measure to hold it up on the small end. I like watching!
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
Charles Wilke Thank you, Charles! Appreciate the tip.
@hughgriffiths5837
@hughgriffiths5837 5 жыл бұрын
Check out the Wood Mizer “log taper wedge” for dealing with tapered logs on the lt15. It seems to work well for me but has a limit to the amount of taper it can handle. Believe it’s about $55 through Wood Mizer accessories. Before purchasing the log wedge, I’d use the tapered end of a flitch to wedge up the low end of the log to center the pith. Btw - while I’ve yet to contact them regarding the out of square frame, their customer service (at least in Maine and the Midwest - I’m in Vermont) has been fantastic to deal with. Good luck on all fronts! Keep up the great work and continuous search for improvement 👍🏼
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
Hugh Griffiths I deal with their GA branch and they’ve always bent over backwards for me. If my adjustments in the last video don’t work ill probably end up taking it up to them.
@BosnWayne
@BosnWayne 5 жыл бұрын
Man you got smart with that impact on the winch.
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
Wayne Mills It’s been a game changer, just a standard DeWalt drill and a modified socket!
@BosnWayne
@BosnWayne 5 жыл бұрын
@@falllineridge I saw the video after I made that comment.
@quentinporcupine9116
@quentinporcupine9116 5 жыл бұрын
Your winch idea is genius Wood Mixer should make something like that for the LT10 and the LT15 from the factory otay
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
Quentin Porcupine The winch is a wood Mizer product...the drill adapter was something I built. Works great! Appreciate you watching.
@revhbateman
@revhbateman 5 жыл бұрын
How is the kiln working. Would love to see an update
@PhillipHall01
@PhillipHall01 5 жыл бұрын
Good job as always . You know what, I would like to see you make a video cutting planks for making bee hive boxes.... thanks, Two for one video .😊😁. Phillip Hall
@scottbaican9566
@scottbaican9566 3 жыл бұрын
If u have an outdoor wood furnace you’d be set with all that slab wood
@practicallyIndependent
@practicallyIndependent 5 жыл бұрын
Great looking wood! Gonna dry in the solar kiln?
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
Dillons Woodworks I’ll let it air dry for a little while, then put it in the kiln.
@snapperkc9317
@snapperkc9317 5 жыл бұрын
Goes thru the log like butter! Will you let the wood dry out or not? Great looking lumber!
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
SnapperKC Yes, I’ll let it air dry for a little while then put it in the kiln.
@woodchucktinman9893
@woodchucktinman9893 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have any luck with the 4 X 4 staying straight since they are not cut from the center? I only cut 6x6 and any large beams from the center to keep them straight. I really like that winch! I need one for if I am not in my sawmill shed.
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
Charles Wilke Not sure, these are really the first 4x4s I’ve cut. Hopefully they’ll stay straight.
@jerrylittle8922
@jerrylittle8922 5 жыл бұрын
👍
@nhcaesar9556
@nhcaesar9556 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you drilled through the cross section near the head of the mill and added an adjustable slotted piece of metal if you could create your own toe board substitute. Oh and how is your solar kiln performing?
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
nhcaesar I’m sure something could be fabbed up. Kiln works really well! It’s not very ergonomic, but it dries wood!
@satanstrilogy2288
@satanstrilogy2288 3 жыл бұрын
W.O.W.
@lionellewis1044
@lionellewis1044 3 жыл бұрын
How long do you have to dry Pune 4x4s to use for a fence and pole barn
@momon1828
@momon1828 4 жыл бұрын
no waste nice
@GypsyPaz
@GypsyPaz 4 жыл бұрын
The rake test works just fine, but its not about the rake, its about experience. You can just as well use a stick or your thumb or anything will do, its just a matter of developing the technique.
@rexhavoc2982
@rexhavoc2982 5 жыл бұрын
I like the speed you saw, every one else saws so slow it drives me crazy. Be sure to sticker the very ends of your boards, If I forgot to tell you before the easy way to know the maximum cant size of any log is to measure the diameter under bark, DUB ,small end, and multiply that by point 700. 12" x .700 = 8.4" Have fun.
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
Good tip, thank you!
@rudengardener2941
@rudengardener2941 2 жыл бұрын
Sir I want to ask you about that tree? That's is good for making a houses
@clintdavis47
@clintdavis47 3 жыл бұрын
How long before u use it. Is that what they say as green ?
@woodyahh2110
@woodyahh2110 3 жыл бұрын
How long do you have to wait before you can use fresh milled lumber? No rakes were harmed in this video!
@matthewclark2455
@matthewclark2455 2 жыл бұрын
Did you replant a new tree?
@pneumatic00
@pneumatic00 5 жыл бұрын
Did you fabricate the winch mount, meaning the adapter goodie that lets the winch slip onto on the rail? Or is that (and the ramps) a Wood Mizer product?
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
pneumatic00 It’s a Wood Mizer product. I fabricated the drill adapter from a socket, but the winch is factory.
@steveingersoll1185
@steveingersoll1185 5 жыл бұрын
pneumatic00 has always
@steveingersoll1185
@steveingersoll1185 5 жыл бұрын
pneumatic00 has always had been
@bleamp4253
@bleamp4253 5 жыл бұрын
For you honey cappings use a potato masher.
@carpdude73
@carpdude73 5 жыл бұрын
Why aren't you using the solar kiln for these boards? Is it still working?
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
Bill Carpenter Works fine. I’m letting them air dry for a bit first.
@Bassmaster1256
@Bassmaster1256 5 жыл бұрын
Is this video after you got the entire saw mill lined up?
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
Lined up as well as it was in the previous video. It's working better now, still room for improvement.
@TheBAFarmer
@TheBAFarmer 5 жыл бұрын
Make sure your side supports are square that was my problem on my lt-15
@anthonyhawk7484
@anthonyhawk7484 2 жыл бұрын
How many board feet did you get out of that tree
@loycemarch8409
@loycemarch8409 5 жыл бұрын
What do you do withoutsude slabs with bark?
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
I don't have a use for them so they go into the burn pile.
@jimwilloughby
@jimwilloughby 5 жыл бұрын
I've seen other videos of guys who have their own Wood Mizers , and the've talked about removing the pith. Why is the pith undesirable?
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
Jim Willoughby Not much experience with dealing with it. I think it’s species dependent, and I’ve never had trouble with pine, but it appears that the pith can have a tendency to check worse than the rest of the boards. If you’ve ever split oak firewood with an ax, I always aim for the crack in the dead center of the log. Hit that pitch check just right and the wood will fly apart. Maybe a more experienced sawyer can chime in with more detail?
@randalltarlton4033
@randalltarlton4033 5 жыл бұрын
Can you send me your pattern for your bed frames?
@russellclement2058
@russellclement2058 4 жыл бұрын
I've been laying here watching this , and for me , I would have to plan earlier,, yes trim off your bark but take your dimensions from your base line,,, calibrate your thickness guide from the bottom ,, not from a random place , then you wouldnt end up with a fat or skinny board,
@4115t41r
@4115t41r 5 жыл бұрын
Again got home from work 01:00 am scotland time, great video, 2 questions, there is a lot of waste, what do you do with this?. And Do you replant more trees than you Fell? Thanks again for your time and effort.
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
Alistair Blanch I usually burn the slabs, although it could be used for outbuilding siding...I just don’t like the look of it as siding. I try to cut so that the forest here is thinned in such a way that the other trees become healthier. So, I don’t plant more trees than I cut because my trees are overcrowded as it is. When the time comes, I’ll definitely be planting more where needed.
@mystaplers
@mystaplers 4 жыл бұрын
It was like watching an artist working
@cricket2572
@cricket2572 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any seller ? I want white pine in pakistan
@wauhawk
@wauhawk 5 жыл бұрын
YOu have a battery starter on your mill right? Why not either find a 12 volt battery drill and hard wire it to the battery or a simple plug when you run the winch or another idea is an inverter and a corded drill? Just thinking about you being on site and your drill dies. Ain't nobody got time for doing it by hand! lol
@wauhawk
@wauhawk 5 жыл бұрын
Or just go with a cheap winch from Harbor Freight for that matter.
@johncochran8497
@johncochran8497 5 жыл бұрын
Yea, you messed up a bit with the rake trick. Hopefully, my explanation will help you, so you'll understand what you're trying to do so you'll do better in the future. All you're doing is using the rake to create a right triangle with 2 45 degree angles. The two short legs of this triangle is a line from your eye to where you're holding the rake handle, and from where you're holding the rake handle to the top of the rake handle. The initial manipulation you perform is simply getting the top of the rake handle close to your eye so those 2 measurements are the same. After, you've created the 90/45/45 triangle using your arm and the rake, you then walk forward and backward until the top of the rake handle aligns with the top of the tree. This in turn create a similar triangle with the two equal legs being the distance from you to the tree, and the height of the tree.
@giovannidisiervi2826
@giovannidisiervi2826 3 жыл бұрын
Sei veramente.Complimenti Da quale stato americano mandi i video.Io vedo spesso il tuo lavoro.Sono di Modena vicino la FERRARI e lavoro il legno di ulivo.Ciao se vieni ti offro una pizza e se mi rispondi in Italiano perché non parlo americano.
@h.s76
@h.s76 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Can you give me the price of the saw?
@MrRackinroll
@MrRackinroll 5 жыл бұрын
It should work, its just basic geometry, we all learned in high school math.
@believeme5903
@believeme5903 4 жыл бұрын
Eighteen pieces of lumber and lots of FIREWOOD...
@casycasy5199
@casycasy5199 5 жыл бұрын
i guess you fixed your tracking problem
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
casy casy Still have a kink or two to work out, but I don’t think it’ll slip off the side again.
@lindapaulsen4652
@lindapaulsen4652 5 жыл бұрын
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@Shanestrapping
@Shanestrapping 5 жыл бұрын
so you just cut 3 4x4 and 2 2x4 out of a 14 in but log. way to much scrap the way you started
@stevedawson3863
@stevedawson3863 5 жыл бұрын
I just have to tell you this story. I had a 70 foot oak in my yard I called a tree man out to give me a price to drop the tree. I have a pool a pole barn and electric lines going to pole barn. He gives me a price to drop the tree of 500 dollars. I told him go ahead and set up a time to do it. He said I will do it Wright now. I ask if he was going to get a bucket truck. He dont need it he look the tree over for 15 minutes then he got his chainsaw he cut that tree down it miss the pool by 1 foot and the pole barn by 1 inch and the electric line by 3 feet. I said man you just missed my pole barn by 1 inch. He said to me that is all I had to miss it by. I was in shock!! That was the fastest 500 dollar I've ever spent. He did not even have a rake!!
@falllineridge
@falllineridge 5 жыл бұрын
Steve Dawson Wow! Guy sounds like a daredevil!
@user-oc6qs1po3j
@user-oc6qs1po3j 5 жыл бұрын
well hell anyone can do it with a sawmill I could do it with a swazall an skill saw if I had to one day soon I make the video
@marcleysonrodrigues2119
@marcleysonrodrigues2119 3 жыл бұрын
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