Turning Iron Into Hearth Steel - Making Steel! (Forge Diaries: Ep. 16)

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Niels Provos

Niels Provos

Күн бұрын

We are making high carbon hearth steel in an Aristotle furnace. This principles are simple: combine iron with a charcoal fire and get out high carbon steel perfect for making knives or swords. In practice, this was more difficult. The process here is quite different from smelting iron using a bloomery process in which ore is reduced to iron. We want to make steel by increasing the carbon of the mild steel or iron that is added to the furnace. In practice, this requires an interesting balance between heat and air flow that determines the size of the furnace. The resulting hearth steel needs to be refined by forge welding. It's great to have a power hammer to help with that. Once everything is done, this is great bladesmithing steel and makes beautiful knife and sword blades.
The Ace Up Our Sleeve:
Emiliano Carrillo at www.emilianoca... or / sunandstarsforge
Referenced videos:
Making Viking-Age Bloomery Iron in a Bloomery Furnace
• Making Viking-Age Bloo...
Refining and Carburizing Wrought Iron
• Refining and Carburizi...
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Пікірлер: 108
@tommyhill199
@tommyhill199 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for including the failed attempts. Walking us through all of your efforts is far more informative than a video that edits out anything that isn't perfect. This was very enjoyable. Well done.
@toughgirl8770
@toughgirl8770 2 жыл бұрын
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@ThakIronworks
@ThakIronworks 5 жыл бұрын
Really good production value......really clear dialogue...you are my favorite mad scientist....do more stuff
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it. The knife looks really pretty as well.
@DJRaffa1000
@DJRaffa1000 5 жыл бұрын
@@NielsProvos really looking forward to the knife. your videos always give me a sence of calmness and relax me while watching awesome things take shape. Keep up the good work it really is amazing !
@crazyDIYguy
@crazyDIYguy 2 жыл бұрын
This is amazing, so transparent, with a bit of humor. True craftsman of your trade. A thing of pure beauty. I'm subscribing.👍💯😎
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos 2 жыл бұрын
Makes me curious to know how Trap House and Garage go together for you 😎
@crazyDIYguy
@crazyDIYguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@NielsProvos I started out in a trap house with a garage 😄😄😄
@andreasjonsson8075
@andreasjonsson8075 Жыл бұрын
I love your Makita collection
@RovingPunster
@RovingPunster 5 жыл бұрын
As a spectator, I find the chemistry that underpins techniques like this fascinating. You'd think that something like anthracite coal would be a better choice for this than hardwood charcoal under the notion that more (higher carbon content and burns hotter) must surely be better, but NOOOOO ... there is apparently a bell curve on carbon absorption involved. Too little heat and you accomplish nothing, too much and you melt the iron and drive off the precious carbon, whereas if you land in the thermal sweet spot the iron can absorb some of it and enter steel territory (then you gotta homogenize it by working it) ... and of course how much carbon is absorbed seems to depend on a variety of factors like the ratio of surface area to volume on the iron, the presence or absence of other elements, where in fire it happens, etc. It's all very interesting.
@toughgirl8770
@toughgirl8770 2 жыл бұрын
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@Bear_Feces
@Bear_Feces 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I actually yelled "GOOOOOOOOD!!!" when I saw all the sparks from the last puck. I love your steel and iron making videos!
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them. It's a lot of fun to do these experiments.
@brianmichaud3668
@brianmichaud3668 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your videos and wondering if you had used bloom steel to make crucible steel
@mirokortemaa9060
@mirokortemaa9060 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. This channel got me interested with smithing years ago.
@TDGCmote
@TDGCmote 5 жыл бұрын
I love seeing all of this cool work you do. From the serpent in the sword to your newer content, this sort of stuff is what makes me feel inspired to start blacksmithing.
@toughgirl8770
@toughgirl8770 2 жыл бұрын
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@jans19772012
@jans19772012 5 жыл бұрын
Great teaching and video Niels, good to see the Craftsman at it's best learning as well. Do keep it up!!
@lukethedrifter8302
@lukethedrifter8302 Жыл бұрын
Wow, from all mild steel scrap. Very cool gus!👍🇺🇦
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it. The resulting steel looks cool.
@RIPBlueInk
@RIPBlueInk 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Video. I was just trying to explain this to someone a couple of days ago. This vid will be very handy. Thanks
@TharkisEQ
@TharkisEQ 5 жыл бұрын
Emiliano is a good ace to have up your sleeve =P I love hearth refined steel because it's the ultimate way to recycle your scraps and get the type of material you want for character when making your own steel but dont have the time or space to run a full smelt =)
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos 5 жыл бұрын
I was surprised how little space it needed. The whole thing can be done in 40 minutes.
@TharkisEQ
@TharkisEQ 5 жыл бұрын
@@NielsProvos Yup, and then it collapses down and fits inside a milk crate when you're not using it. amazingly compact !
5 жыл бұрын
Carburazing is not easy... Decarb is more that's why turing pig iron into steel was also done. Nice job you get a lot of carbon !
@jarredwilson9085
@jarredwilson9085 5 жыл бұрын
Great timing with this vid Niels! Giving this a crack in a few weeks :)
@SenorTucano
@SenorTucano Жыл бұрын
Excellent video - subbed! 👍
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@jukeboxhero1649
@jukeboxhero1649 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that making steel is not as hard as I first thought. That emiliana forge is the way to go for me
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos 4 жыл бұрын
I was also surprised how well it works. Refining afterwards is a big pain.
@jukeboxhero1649
@jukeboxhero1649 4 жыл бұрын
@@NielsProvos I need to see that video. What's the title?
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos 4 жыл бұрын
I have an older video on that with blister steel.
@Argi-em
@Argi-em 4 жыл бұрын
This is great! I’m definitely going to try this with steel swarf
@ak47bobbarke
@ak47bobbarke 3 жыл бұрын
Those sparks are amazing man, good job!!
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos 3 жыл бұрын
Hehe. We liked them too.
@fox111qc
@fox111qc 5 жыл бұрын
Wow congrats on that high carbon steel!
@martintroy910
@martintroy910 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Neils. I saw a video of Emilio doing this a couple of days ago. I'm running one of these today with some bloom I made last August for a commission of an unusual historic sword type.
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos 5 жыл бұрын
Good luck. Sounds like an exciting project.
@HANDFORGED
@HANDFORGED 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, das ist doch super gelaufen. Irgendwann möchte ich auch gern mal meinen eigenen Stahl herstellen!!!
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos 3 жыл бұрын
Macht auch Spass und braucht nicht sonderlich viel Zeit!
@ThePillenwerfer
@ThePillenwerfer 5 жыл бұрын
Given that wrought iron is no longer commercially made doing that by accident wasn't wholly a disaster.
@dylangoode5252
@dylangoode5252 5 жыл бұрын
love it man.
@JackEverton101
@JackEverton101 3 жыл бұрын
8:05 Him. “ there are no sparks” 8:06 Me. “Ummmmmmm......”
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos 3 жыл бұрын
Not the right kind of sparks. Not high carbon sparks :-)
@branni6538
@branni6538 2 жыл бұрын
Well done on your achievement! Thanks for sharing this and for the detailed explanations. To see those sparks was very satisfying. Niles have you tried getting sparks from this steel with flint?
@hudsonguimaraes8308
@hudsonguimaraes8308 4 жыл бұрын
Great intro congratulations!
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it.
@HenryShiley
@HenryShiley 4 жыл бұрын
Bit of a year late to see this. However, excellent instructional experiment video. I've been looking for blast furnace build ideas for raw iron smelted in another furnace. This is another step towards rock->steel for tool making.
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos 4 жыл бұрын
It works surprisingly well given how easy it is. Good luck!
@HenryShiley
@HenryShiley 4 жыл бұрын
@@NielsProvos The hardest part is actually finding a way to make the kiln/furnace so you don't have to destroy it to get the metal. Most videos for Iron involve destroying some variation of earthwork furnace. Need experiments with a ceramic crucible catch at the bottom, I think.
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos 4 жыл бұрын
For this particular method, I just need to mend the tyuere. Everything else just stays up. It's quite nice that way.
5 жыл бұрын
Nice intro aah
@DanSalig-jq5mu
@DanSalig-jq5mu 9 ай бұрын
The charcoal dust clogs the air flow. Like when you empty a bag of BBQ brickettes
@nacsurte
@nacsurte 5 жыл бұрын
great video, ty!
@kateiry4719
@kateiry4719 4 жыл бұрын
1:13 A bunch of cops appeared when he opened up the carriage xD
@lbdeuce
@lbdeuce 5 жыл бұрын
outstanding
@ahab145
@ahab145 Жыл бұрын
Hey Niels thanks for the helpful video, it's very well made and informative, I want to replicate the method myself and would like to ask you how long did it take for it to smelt in the last attempt and how much coal do you recommend me to buy. Thanks
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos Жыл бұрын
It takes a lot of coal. Get more than you think you need. I don’t quite remember the times. I think the video gives you a rough idea.
@ahab145
@ahab145 Жыл бұрын
@@NielsProvos thanks for answering
@danielzbanca8629
@danielzbanca8629 3 жыл бұрын
but how much is that in metric?
@oneshotme
@oneshotme 5 жыл бұрын
I came over from the next video where you make a knife out of it. But I didn't get notified about it. I think I didn't because you don't put out very many videos and youtube supports those that do more so than those who don't
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos 5 жыл бұрын
I think you need to explicitly select to be notified about each video. It's a setting.
@footleg3310
@footleg3310 5 жыл бұрын
It's the little bell next to the subscribe button.
@randycastro7641
@randycastro7641 5 жыл бұрын
How did you buy iron ore
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos 5 жыл бұрын
It isn't iron ore. It's regular mild steel.
@asmaremengistu2449
@asmaremengistu2449 3 жыл бұрын
best
@aserta
@aserta 5 жыл бұрын
Music audio, turn that down just a bee's di..mple lower, it's a bit difficult to hear your awesome voice right.
@bilgaissa5831
@bilgaissa5831 4 жыл бұрын
Can we use red bricks to build a forge
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos 4 жыл бұрын
They will likely break apart. You want to use fire bricks.
@cheapshotmike1091
@cheapshotmike1091 4 жыл бұрын
Can this be done with out a power hammer?
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. A big sledge hammer can do it too.
@patricioberasategui7429
@patricioberasategui7429 5 жыл бұрын
hi i have one question can it work with sand iron instead of mild steel?
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos 5 жыл бұрын
That's more suitable for a bloomery process. Check the video I am referencing for how that looks like. The process here does not have to deal with slag. For iron sands slag is something you have to deal with.
@patricioberasategui7429
@patricioberasategui7429 5 жыл бұрын
@@NielsProvos now i understand why you use the mild steel. Thanks for the info and awesome videos
@dave_in_florida
@dave_in_florida 3 жыл бұрын
so is it a 2 step process to make high carbon steel?
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos 3 жыл бұрын
Using this process, yes.
@hughjasses317
@hughjasses317 3 жыл бұрын
@@NielsProvos can I make a larger amount of carbon steel, I want to make steel for a sword or an axe, or even a spearhead
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos 3 жыл бұрын
@@hughjasses317 You need to do multiple runs and then consolidate them together. Definitely doable, just a lot of work.
@hughjasses317
@hughjasses317 3 жыл бұрын
@@NielsProvos Like how many days would it take to make 10 kgs of 1080-1095 carbon steel
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos 3 жыл бұрын
@@hughjasses317 Let's say you work straight up 8 hours a day, you can probably do this in a week. That would be inclusive of refining and consolidation.
@jmpattillo
@jmpattillo 5 жыл бұрын
Great video but the background music is a little loud at times. Makes it harder to concentrate on what you are saying.
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos 5 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too late but I agree. Unfortunately, I am about to go on a trip and wanted to get the video out. I have been working on it for the last two months.
@jmpattillo
@jmpattillo 5 жыл бұрын
Niels Provos It was really just that part near the beginning where the music picks up. Once you get past that it fades to the background.
@ClassicGaualofa
@ClassicGaualofa 4 ай бұрын
Who else got here by being curious about how metal is made?
@nickwoo2
@nickwoo2 5 жыл бұрын
only 100G loss so far! wow
@mikemiller7231
@mikemiller7231 2 жыл бұрын
Sir please help
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos 2 жыл бұрын
Help with what?
@getmeoutofsanfrancisco9917
@getmeoutofsanfrancisco9917 3 жыл бұрын
"Instead what we are getting does not have any sparks" Meanwhile: *Huge sparks flying everywhere* Could someone explain to me what I am misinterpreting? He said there are no sparks but all I see is a blinding array of sparks.
@Lobod287
@Lobod287 3 жыл бұрын
I'm also very curious about this. Actually came down to the comments to see if it was answered yet. My only assumption is that maybe there's different kinds of sparks? He does specify 'exploding sparks' though again I'm just assuming things and have little experience in forging and none in steel production.
@erwinli6962
@erwinli6962 3 жыл бұрын
Flowering sparks, rather than straight sparks, generally indicate a higher carbon content. Steel needs a high carbon content to be appropriate for knifemaking.
@piotrwojciechowski7998
@piotrwojciechowski7998 5 жыл бұрын
Congratulations ;-) I know that you can carbonize steel by puting it with broaken glass and graphite in to glay jar sealed . And jest it up
@LandersWorkshop
@LandersWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I saw the Ulfburt sword made that way by the guru blacksmith from Wisconsin.
@FourthWayRanch
@FourthWayRanch Жыл бұрын
too much air flow blows away all the CO, how do you know it's not cast iron?
@holidayla3840
@holidayla3840 3 жыл бұрын
these thing using too much oxygen,sun light is only one green energy on earth
@howardlovecraft750
@howardlovecraft750 4 жыл бұрын
Seen all the likes, thought this ought to be a good one to watch.
@samsmith2635
@samsmith2635 2 жыл бұрын
6:33 is that LP or 02 line you have going into your tuyere?
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos 2 жыл бұрын
Just air.
@leoszes
@leoszes 5 жыл бұрын
i think it was a good idea to start with something over sized, that way you had enough room to gauge the correct size for what you needed(?) thats how it was with my forge, it was too big and i started to line it with bricks to make it narrower until i found the optimal size, then i rebuild it.
@baddonkey6876
@baddonkey6876 3 жыл бұрын
Can barely hear you man
@NielsProvos
@NielsProvos 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry. I thought I had audio sorted out by now.
@DrVektor
@DrVektor 3 жыл бұрын
you have to use coke coil high calorie
@NamBui-ot2ox
@NamBui-ot2ox 3 жыл бұрын
What's in the oven?
@Itfeelsmoist
@Itfeelsmoist 4 жыл бұрын
The Japanese have perfected this. Their furnace is huge and takes about 3 days and multiple people maintaining proper heat.
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