Turtle Wax Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray Coating - Better than Seal N Shine?

[@brandonmccreary2397]

I’m an engineer who also happens to be passionate about auto detailing and I have to say, this channel is top notch! Dmitry found a way to quantify the quality of these detailing products which is very appreciated. Great job Dmitry!

[@DmitrysGarage]

Thanks Brandon, that is high praise indeed. Really appreciate it!

[@arnoldsantiago8170]

@@DmitrysGarage Hope you can make a review of Gyeon Can Coat EVO Or Can Coat Evo vs Adams Graphene Spray Coating

[@OmahaWayne]

I have a criticism. How can this channel only have 7K subs? Your presentation and content is top notch man. Love your videos.

[@DmitrysGarage]

Haha, thank you, appreciate your "criticism" :)

[@duke6j]

I second that!

[@JesusMartinez-mi5oh]

Incredible video. No channel goes that deep in analyzing a product. This is priceless 🙏 thanks!

[@DmitrysGarage]

Thank you Jesús I try to make it educational:)

[@Brian-vu5pk]

One of the better review processes I've seen on this product. Well done.

[@DmitrysGarage]

Thanks Brian!

[@JimBic72]

I used this product with two coats as described with the 24hr wait time between coats and from Nov-March in harsh winter conditions and had good beading. It’s pretty durable, and as Dmitry says for the money it’s hard to beat. With this product though, less is more! Good video Dmitry!👏

[@DmitrysGarage]

Thanks Jim, I'm positive 2 coats will do even better than the one I tested! :)

[@shaukatshaikh3472]

We clearly see your lot of hard work for this video. Very informative. Last added music with thunderstorm is a nice end of the video.

[@DmitrysGarage]

Thanks! Appreciate the kind comment :)

[@jameschan1334]

Nice review, thanks for doing it. Sounds like a good cheap/durable base sealant then use a glossy topper/drying aid to help that pop.

[@DmitrysGarage]

Thanks James, yes I think it would work that way. For the price its definitely impressive.

[@proflex310]

Very slick, super glossy and durable product. Jetting effect is also impressive. My favorite!

[@DmitrysGarage]

Thanks for watching Artem!

[@myfake3750]

Another great review!! I love to see your review of Turtle Wax Graphene flex wax!

[@richardseem7948]

Awesome video and product review D.glad to see u back on utube makn videos. TW def great product line and awesome price point. Next time try their new version of seal and shine and stack new version ice spray wax won't be disappointed. B well buddy

[@DmitrysGarage]

Thanks Richard! I have done a vid of their new SnS but the new Ice I think I haven’t tried yet. Will update my list!

[@nukedogger86]

I think with this stuff, less is more. I've used it for years now, and if you go just a little too heavy you get streaks. It is a fine line of it working amazing and utterly frustrating. I ran it last winter, 6 months between waxing and it held up with two coats 24 hours apart. Overall decent for the money, but use less than you think.

[@DmitrysGarage]

Thats a great tip!

[@nicorallysport]

👍. Is your slickness meters the same device as the one to test the hardness of the rifle triggers ?. thank you in advance I have used tw csc before, what I find weird about it is that it is very resistant in chemical resistance, but much worse in the real world?!. Example, Meguiar's HCW (blue bottle) VS tw csc, after several weeks and several rains, the minerals drying out reduce the hydrophobic effect. By putting a few shots of Iron decon spray, the hydrophobic effect of HCW comes back very well, but not csc! It turns in sheeting?!. For my part in real test HCW is better.

[@DmitrysGarage]

It is a trigger pull tester. I just can’t day the g-word when describing it due to various monetization censorship issues :(. It works very well due to the sensitivity. As far as real world its always hard to tell. Some cars get exposed to salt and harsh water. Some get a ton of UV. Others stay garaged at all times when not on the road. Real world is usually harsher than my test. HCW is a great product.

[@Terry-sb4bk]

Thanks for work on testing the wax. You did a great job with it. OH by the way, I did 2 coats of Turtle Wax paste first before I put 2 coats of this product on it. GOD BLESS🙏🙏👍

[@reiki2165]

How did this not appear in my research? THis is an excellent channel. I feel like its like project farm. You deserve more subs.

[@DmitrysGarage]

Thanks! Always nice if you tell a friend :)

[@0nemoa]

You gotta be shitting me right?. I mean, come on man seriously. He is way too well spoken. And it’s agrovating as all hell that his pronunciation is literally perfect. I just can’t deal with that right now. Not at this time in my life. I’m sorry, I truly am.

[@mcalette]

This is a very good product. I have used it with a lot of success. Great value and it’s easy to find. Great review as always.

[@DmitrysGarage]

Thanks Mark! Appreciate the field report and your viewership :)

[@adamcoe]

Great review! You did note the small gloss hit, so in your opinion, could you combine this with another wax or sealer to retain or add gloss, and if so would you use said product before or after the Turtle Wax? I've got some Turtle Wax Ice Spray Wax for example, would that be useful as a topper perhaps?

[@DmitrysGarage]

Adam, its possible to stack it but you would really have to test it out.

[@a111z]

I’d love to see you compare Sonax Brilliant Shine Detailer, which has a cult following for it’s hydrophobic properties, with Sonax’s new Ceramic Spray Coating, which attempts to capture the best qualities of BSD while improving its slickness, gloss, and ease of application. One tip with the BSD, most regular users dilute it with distilled water quite a bit.

[@llirickyill2075]

Patiently waiting for the full blown Adam’s graphene ceramic review ^^

[@DmitrysGarage]

Its coming :)

[@ptvfr800]

I used this on my daughters black Nissan pick up which has paint that is trashed, I just cleaned it, clayed it and applied and it has created a brilliant deep gloss plus it looks great in the rain..

[@kirrus4781]

When you say deep do you mean that the color stands more than the gloss? I'm looking for something that makes the color pop instead of just the clear shining. Is this more of a depth product than just a gloss?

[@ptvfr800]

@@kirrus4781 I would say it probably is more of a shine than a colour enhancer, I think Polish Angel would be where I start looking for colour enhancers. I used their Master sealant on my black Jeep and was amazed at how good it looked..

[@kirrus4781]

@@ptvfr800 thank you!!

[@kirrus4781]

@@ptvfr800 nvr heard of that brand before but will definitely look into it 👍

[@myhandletre3]

Very professional demonstration. Great work! If it streaks they recommend wiping it with a damp microfibre cloth.

[@DmitrysGarage]

Great tip! Thank you for watching!

[@stevenmott6668]

Hello Dmitry. Have you looked into testing Ethos Resist? It would fit right into your lineup. Thanks. You’re doing good work.

[@DmitrysGarage]

Thanks for watching! Yea that one is on my list.

[@kirrus4781]

Hey Demitry what do you recommend for more of a depth look? Something that makes the color pop... I'm also looking for ease of application. I currently use Meguiar's Ceramic Wax but is not as easy to use as other products but it does give a really good depth look.

[@DmitrysGarage]

In a spray I think the Wolfgang Uber SiO2 Silica Spray is hard to beat, I'd call it a near-coating, it's very easy to use, but you just have to make sure you wipe it all up or it will leave visible high spots. The Last Coat 2.0 also gives a pretty deep rich look, though it hit the gloss readings a bit hard with 10 gloss units lots, but was a easy to use and very deep/wet looking product.

[@kirrus4781]

@@DmitrysGarage thank your so much Demitry!! Will definitely look into it. I'm going to subscribe, love your work 👍

[@youtubesucks8024]

So what do you guys recommend that’s also going to make the color really pop? I’ve always been a fan of Klasse sealant glaze. You can buff that bad boy to a mirror finish.

[@MAXIMILAN2QAT]

great review as always THANK YOU 🙏

[@DmitrysGarage]

Always glad to see you in the comments :)

[@MAXIMILAN2QAT]

@@DmitrysGarage Follow your Instagram channel 👍

[@rieztra]

Great job Dmitry!! another engineer here, awesome methodology, love your channel!!

[@DmitrysGarage]

Thanks for watching!

[@anonymousgazelle]

I already have this prior having my car coated with actual ceramic coating. Curious if I can use my remaining Hybrid Solutions as a topper.

[@DmitrysGarage]

I think it will work for this purpose. I like to top up areas that may be failing on a professional coating.

[@tafl-9198]

Always a great idea to top/boost your coating and I think TW Ceramic Spray Coating will work just fine for this.

[@gregsullivan7408]

Re the reduction in gloss, could it simply be due to incomplete removal? Might be interesting to buff it really thoroughly with a machine, using some kind of buffing bonnet

[@DmitrysGarage]

Greg, the panel is machine polished between tests if thats what you mean. I use the same compound and materials so the panel is the same between tests. Let me know if I misunderstood your question.

[@gregsullivan7408]

No! 😀 I'm referring to buffing off the product - the product under test! I often find that it takes more work than it does in the demos, to TRULY achieve a streak free finish. I'm suggesting that incomplete removal may be the reason for the reduction in gloss

[@DmitrysGarage]

Ah, but this product isn't meant to be buffed off mechanically though.

[@gregsullivan7408]

@@DmitrysGarage that's fine, but my question still stands - is it possible that you didn't buff it off thoroughly enough, thus resulting in a reduction of gloss? I'm just asking the question. Regarding machine buffing, is there any reason not to use a machine, to speed up the process? Just because it doesn't mention machine buffing on the label doesn't mean it definitely won't be effective

[@DmitrysGarage]

@@gregsullivan7408 Greg, I do not believe failure to fully buff off is the case. As far as trying such a method, the goal of my testing is to compare products based on how the manufacturers intend them to be used. I understand there may be other ways of applying them, but as you can imagine I'd have 50 people asking me why I buffed it off with a machine if I did. I believe it would invalidate the testing to not follow manufacturer instructions. Some products do apply well with a machine applicator, but I've personally never seen anyone buff products off with one. Typically you use the buffer with a very soft pad to apply a product and then buff it off the same way you would if applying by hand. The loss of gloss is something virtually all products show, and this is largely due to the surface already being polished to a high shine. Shine is largely a factor of polishing and not product application. Visual qualities like depth, character, candy appearance, etc.. are more of what the products create. On dull surfaces, like poorly maintained paint, many products will add shine. However, those are poor substrates and would negatively affect the rest of the testing. So the goal is to find products that hit shine the least or in rare cases improve it, while also having a nice deep look.

[@robbalsley9722]

Dmitry I had this but found it finicky to remove (streaks) so I now use seal n shine. Also, have you ever heard of or tried Undrdog coatings they are not ceramic but more of a Teflon coating from what I've read.

[@DmitrysGarage]

Rob, yea the streaking is an issue. I think you may just have to spray less. Ive played with it a bit more and found less is more. I havent tried underdog yet but some ptfe coatings have been very good, ie Fusso.

[@hornlessgoat4945]

@@DmitrysGarage they say to go over the coating with a damp microfiber to remove streaks.

[@vivekbharti1829]

Hi Buddy, My Name Is Vivek Bharti From Punjab In India I Bought A New White Colour Car 6 months Ago With My Hard Earned Money. And I Have Seen A Lot Of Video's On KZbin Related Carnuba Waxes To Protect The Paint Of My Car, Every Company Says That Their Product Is Good. Please Suggest Me Which Carnuba Wax Will Be Best For Car Paint protection so that the car paint remains safe for a long time ? Because It's Very Valuable For Me. Please Suggest Can I Go With 1) Meguiar Ultimate Liquid Wax 2) Meguiar Ultimate Paste Wax 3) Turtle Super Hard Shell Wax 4) Turtle Ceramic Graphene 5) Meguiar Mirror Glaze 26 6) Fusso Soft99 Or is there someone better than these I Have A Lot Of Faith On You. Thanks In Advance

[@joaquinlombardi1454]

Excellent review my dear friend. 👍👍👍

[@DmitrysGarage]

Amazing to see you as always :)

[@ForceFreddy]

I want to use this as a base protectant on my car. What product can I use on top of this to enhance gloss levels to make my paint look better?

[@DmitrysGarage]

I dont usually stack products so its a bit hard for me to suggest an option.

[@mhlittleton6493]

Quick question, Dmitry. I currently have this product on my new 2021 vehicle, and have been maintaining it with Turtle Wax's Hybrid Solutions Wash & Wax and HS Wet Wax as a drying aid. If I wanted to remove the product(s) to try other options, what's the best way to do that, while avoiding polishing? The paint doesn't really need it, and I"m not comfortable doing it. So can it be completely removed chemically? Thanks!

[@DmitrysGarage]

I would suggest using a strip wax, I’ve had good results with Adam’s. Some isopropyl alcohol can also work wonders and a clay bar can help to clean up anything leftover if you want to really go all out. Optionally you can also use an iron remover but your car is pretty new and you’re not polishing. I would do those steps in that order before getting to any wet sanding and/or polishing.

[@modaksa]

good day, can i use hybrid ceramic spray coating as a topper for may ceramic coated vehicle? and also it will not damages the ceramic coated vehicle when i use or apply it?

[@DmitrysGarage]

I always recommend a small test area to make sure you like the look, dont get undesirable streaking, etc… but generally ceramic/sio2 products stack very well.

[@chuggalueroifan]

Can you do Armor Shield IX and Turtle Wax Graphene Flex Wax

[@Dee--Jay]

When you was with soap sprayed on by foam cannon. The PH of the soap is increased, its a more concentrated soap in comparison to your soap in a wash bucket

[@DmitrysGarage]

This depends on the dilution ratio you're using for the bucket and the foam gun. I use a 9/1 dilution ratio and the solution is pH neutral at that ratio, I've measured it.

[@Dee--Jay]

@@DmitrysGarage i don't get it. Even at 9 to 1, its alot more concentrated than 1 ounce per gallon which is like 128 to 1. Even a ph soap will be not ph after you add so much soap.... U would think. Im not saying you right or wrong.. i just noticed when i used to wash my car with soap on it, my protection used to go away alot faster in comparison to a traditional bucket wash

[@DmitrysGarage]

So it all depends on the shampoo. What is its pH and what is the pH of your water? The shampoo im using isnt making my water acidic or basic at that dilution ratio.

[@Dee--Jay]

@@DmitrysGarage i did a test yesterday...on my car i put seal n shine on the backside of both mirrors... i let it cure like 2 days just in case though. but 1 mirror i wash with a traditional bucket wash and the other i sprayed soap onto it.... the bucket was lasted 89 or 90 washes washes and the side where i sprayed soap lasted 31 washes

[@DmitrysGarage]

It's possible there are strong surfactants or some kind of solvents in the soap. It could also be that your soap is not ph neutral at that concentration. As you can guess different soaps mare made of different compounds.

[@bonjourdy]

But, after I saw improved formula of Seal n Shine, and also "the new boy in the hood" a.k.a Graphene Flex. Is it still worthy?

[@DmitrysGarage]

Jordy, the new SnS performed similar to the old in my tests, not a huge difference. You can check it out on my comparison page (link in description). Some graphene products do seem to be worth it, I have some of them in that matrix on that page.

[@gjguili]

Would be nice to see test on sonax ceramic spray coating!

[@LoveLikeaHurricane]

I heard the new bottle of seal and shine is super easy to apply. I hope there is an update on the new product from your review

[@tianopaulo4188]

How often can you reapply this spray ?

[@Kfcfranchises]

48 washes with one coating? Good lord!

[@DmitrysGarage]

Yea pretty impressed for $14!

[@maximolotov]

Hey ! Can it really be removed that easy with IPA ? What ratio water to IPA please

[@DmitrysGarage]

Yea IPA removes almost all products reasonably well. I use 70% IPA.

[@maximolotov]

@@DmitrysGarage Ty vm

[@antouab221]

Wow, what a gem of a channel!! Liked n subscribed in a hurry :)

[@DmitrysGarage]

Thank you!

[@damian4483]

Please do Technicians Choice aqua glow, their are no videos of it on KZbin !

[@kirrus4781]

Can I apply this every two weeks which is when I was it? I park my car outside in the elements.

[@DmitrysGarage]

You could. I don't think you would have to re-do it that often, but if you want to I don't see why it'd be a problem.

[@DmitrysGarage]

@@kirrus4781 Appreciate the kind words and thanks for using the amazon link! 🙂

[@royhale7283]

I would l Iike to see you review nu finish, new ceramic spray coating.

[@Briguy288]

The lack of UV protection is disappointing. I bought this specifically to protect the paint from the sun

[@tonesmith909]

Would love to see this done with 2 coats. Love the channel!

[@DmitrysGarage]

Thanks! Two coats definitely helps but for standardization i keep them to one unless required. Though for an easy spray product i would ding them for ease of use if they required two since thats a lot of work for a quick spray product.

[@MarkB-zt9jm]

@@DmitrysGarage it’s not a lot of work with this product, it is extremely easy to apply, if you ever applied the old original Turtle Wax in the green container you would know what work is lol ! You almost had to use a buffer to get it off !

[@DmitrysGarage]

@@MarkB-zt9jm The point is that almost all products benefit from a second coat. I don't test double coats unless the product requires it. If a spray product required it then it would be harder to use than other spray products that don't and would get a poor ease of use score.

[@ScareDe2]

Can you please test and review Angelwax Dark Angel? thanks

[@pdeblois1880]

So the Adams Advanced Graphene coating, in my opinion not worth the money. I bought it about 3 weeks ago. Had enough time to do a quick coat on my Ford Escape before the cold weather set in. It performed well on the first wash after application….but subsequently not happy with its performance. Rain or snow leaves water spots which are hard to get rid of. Ended up doing a Polish to thin it out. It’s not a coating you can layer and the 12 oz bottle is more than enough for one car if you have more than one car to do. I don’t……so the product dried on the sprayer and now it’s useless. So I ended up returning it. I tried to get a new sprayer from Adams with no luck. I think there is too much hype bout GRAPHENE. I’m going back to good old ceramics. Anything not in a glass bottle is just fluff and won’t give you the durability for your hard work. Stick to the German, Japanese, English and Korean coatings and you won’t be disappointed.

[@DmitrysGarage]

Thats too bad! Ive had good luck with it. Water spots are a pain, seems to be a challenge for a lot of coatings, especially sprays, if the water is very hard or has salt and grime. You can layer the product, but typically sprays are meant to be quick so many people don’t. As far as the product drying in the bottle, again common issue with many high silica content sprays. What I have been recommending is take a little isopropyl alcohol in say a bottle cap. Pull out the spray nozzle and dip the tube into the isopropyl. Shoot all if it through the nozzle until it runs dry. Put it back in the bottle. Ive lost way too many nozzles to various products before learning this.

[@0nemoa]

Try harder, lol hahaha. I’m just kidding bro thank you so much for the informative video. Because of you, I decided that this product is definitely not for me.

[@GucciUzzi]

can you test chemical guys wet wax and adam buttery wax?

[@DmitrysGarage]

I have tested Buttery Wax in the past, it wasn't very good. I'll add Chemical Guys Wet Wax to my list :).

[@GucciUzzi]

@@DmitrysGarage thank you! seems like the durability lasts for almost a week but i want to make sure.

[@wolfcommander6009]

Is that a Ulysses Nardin on the Wrist

[@DmitrysGarage]

Yep, it's a Maxi Marine Chronograph, good eye :)

[@wolfcommander6009]

@@DmitrysGarage 👍

[@billnipp2309]

Why’s it called turtle wax?

[@DmitrysGarage]

You got me, why? :)

[@billnipp2309]

@@DmitrysGarage don’t know. Asking you. 😬

[@DmitrysGarage]

Haha well the story originally was that their product’s protection was hard like a turtle shell. If i remember right they started up around WW2.

[@billnipp2309]

@@DmitrysGarage they been around 75 years so they must be good.

[@GarryDavidson157]

50 washes is insane.

[@memem-32323]

Turtles spray contains Methyl Alcohol, so be careful when using it Because of this ingredient, it is prohibited to import and sell in S.Korea.

[@DmitrysGarage]

I suspect it is a very small amount of methanol since it's not obviously detectable. Methanol is not good for you to consume, but it's not a super dangerous chemical in general. I can understand why Korea doesn't want it in consumer products though. Why I always say wear gloves at minimum.

[@1993kjetil]

Try fusso f7 coating 😁

[@Rio522Bass]

Let’s see if this is worth trying on my Model 3

[@DmitrysGarage]

Try it out! :)

[@fredjimenez9084]

I don’t care how you use it, sun, in a garage ,2 sprays per panel this stuff streaks. I have found 59 % product and 50% water works best. In reality we shouldn’t have to do this.

[@MarkB-zt9jm]

It would have done better if he wouldn’t have half ass applied it ! A big thick towel is not how you apply waxes or sealants ,also this product says to put a second coat on 24 hours later, his towel was just skipping across the surface

[@DmitrysGarage]

The product says you *can* apply a second coat in 24 hours. This was explained in detail in the video. The edgeless eagle towels work great for spreading around sprays and buffing off liquids/solids, they're literally made for this purpose.

[@MarkB-zt9jm]

@@DmitrysGarage I also heard you say you had some streaking, I think that would be directly related to the thick towel, I applied mine with a microfiber sponge pad and had absolutely no streaking at all , my car looks like it has a new layer of glass all over it - love your videos though

[@Englandsbestlover]

He’ll be 36 in a few moths 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@Rio522Bass]

First comment!!!!!

[@ibrahimchowdhury2469]

It's only taken 3yrs but here's your recognition ..well done 🎉

[@tianopaulo4188]

How often can you reapply this spray ?

[@DmitrysGarage]

You can reapply it as often as you’d like