Turtles in Time (SNES) vs The Hyperstone Heist (Sega Genesis) James and Mike Mondays

[@JamesNintendoNerd]

Check out Mike's complete playthrough of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Hyperstone Heist! kzbin.info/www/bejne/lV7EY2mKebpngNU

[@LassIsolet]

FTL: Faster Than Light review please...

[@adrianhetmanski1832]

Both of these games look great boyz. 3 more great Shooters on SNES, UNsquadron, Cybernator & the awesome Axelay.

[@yFxLvPvrrEaEzoPlPOLIVWsQxNFdQM]

ya'll should play streets of rage 4 for one of these vids! 😃

[@samuswilliams4576]

No im good - not a big fan of mikey

[@jayNicks10]

That almost feels like his redemption video for how he played the game in this episode.

[@gustavolopez2599]

Nintendo had Konami by the balls and had an agreement they could not port over their games to other competitors like Sega. So Sega was smart and asked Konami to make their own different game for them so they wouldn't break breach of contract with Nintendo. A win win in my book =)

[@fernansanchez6331]

"Genesis does what nintendon't"

[@igodreamer7096]

Smart move, indeed

[@donkeypong1847]

Nintendo might have asked konami to use alot of the mode 7 effect (don't know how the arcade version worked). Same with castlevania 4 and Contra 3. This would make the games hard to port.

[@610Hobbies]

I really hate it when people talk about Nintendo as if Nintendo was their loving parent, when Nintendo was an asshole company that wanted to be a monopoly.

[@alexbiehn978]

only the arcade games they could port , like sunset riders

[@patriciajacobs8224]

*Either way you look at it, Turtles In Time and The Hyperstone Heist are both stone cold classics!*

[@christurbed199869]

The Manhattan project does the same thing the special attacks takes your life bars away

[@sidneygraham]

Agreed I love playing both

[@michaelbatista2869]

Uh. No. Not even close. Turtles in time is way better. Mainly because the fighting mechanics were much more complete.

[@StaticTV80]

@@michaelbatista2869 Actually hyperstone is faster and has more frames of animation and detailed sprites

[@michaelbatista2869]

@@StaticTV80 the game pace was close. But the animation frames might be a little faster however the snes port was 1:1 otherwise. Sega's development was vastly different and the level design and bosses werent as interesting

[@dept-7443]

I was 12 years old when I got Turtles In Time on SNES, it was magical. Felt like I had control over the cartoon, great days.

[@dutchweeks1]

I was around 30 when I finally got my hands on a copy. STILL magical :)

[@luciousthomas6141]

No doubt me tooooooooo!

[@joselombana8381]

It was 1992 I was 12 when my dad got me and my three brothers this game for xmas. It was the last gift because he died a week later. We still get together till this day and rotate the two controllers to all take part in beating this bad boy in the name of our father.

[@dept-7443]

Jose Lombana that’s very good way to remember the passing of your father, my friend.

[@LadyCoyKoi]

@@joselombana8381 I'm sorry for the lost of your father at such a young age. Good to see you and your siblings honor him every year with such an awesome game. ^_^ Thank you for sharing your story.

[@chubbycatfish4573]

I miss this version of Konami.

[@goldskula]

You and everybody else mate

[@Mecha82]

Don't we all?

[@random_gamer_guy82]

So does hideo kojima

[@Dj.D25]

True, Konami used to be amazing. The only thing I look forward to from Konami now are their music arcade games every year. They only seem to care about arcade games and pachinko machines.

[@derek-64]

back in the day when konami actually gave a shit. now it's just fucking pachinko machines. if we could get even a glimpse of the old konami maybe we could get a new Castlevania. no metroid stuff either. just old school, linear Castlevania.

[@suchfunstuff]

"Big Apple! Three A.M."

[@adhitamaprasetya4220]

👖👖👖👖👖 "Welcome to PC Optimiser Pro"

[@JD4we]

Starbase where no turtle has gone befo.

[@gabrielzamudio3001]

Lol yeeea 🙂

[@onyxdomainDOTcom]

Oddly enough the arcade version doesn't have that vocal sample. Every other stage does though. It's weird.

[@johndula88]

"Bury my shell at wounded knee"

[@brandonmiller4595]

I had a genesis so Hyperstone Heist holds a special place in my heart. I do remember shredder was the same in both versions. Also you have to play both on Hard to get the ‘real’ ending.

[@AllieRX]

Turtles In Time has a far better 2020 than the one we got. 😞

[@lworthy2518]

But we don't have neon light-flashing hoverboards. Well, we kinda do, BUT they don't really "hover".

[@IAm-zo1bo]

@@lworthy2518 exactly you're just agreeing with him

[@DangerFieldProd]

@@IAm-zo1bo But hey - we do have foot soldiers running in the streets

[@TheCastellan]

Thank big oil for that. >_>

[@stanstanstan2597]

@@DangerFieldProd The only difference is that ours have gained a massive societal following. See, they went the clever route-they didn’t try to be sneaky about it, and instead they just said they were doing it for social justice.

[@blakecretens7623]

I didn’t have a Sega growing up, and I just played Castlevania: Bloodlines a couple years ago. I was blown away by some of the graphical effects they achieved. Pretty badass game, and the Sega was a very solid system.

[@emilianolagioia5843]

Keep doing SNES vs genesis videos plz. This one was amazing!

[@Jack_80]

only game i played that genesis wins in drastically is robocop vs terminator. i remember playing it at a friends or something on genesis and loving it, then i got really excited when i found out it was on snes and got it and it sucked. completely different, slower, jankier game. one of the most disappointing games i got as a kid.

[@thealarm7057]

@@Jack_80 I think they already did a J&MM on Robocop vs Terminator for snes, and it was pretty bad indeed.

[@pogwigginsprod.7702]

Jurassic Park

[@luciousthomas6141]

I loved the original Turtles Arcade game. I loved the Turtles In Time the Arcade game as well. So when I got Turtles in Time on the SNES on X-Mas 92 it was unbelievable. I couldn't believe it when I looked at the box. I couldn't believe it as I opened up the box and started playing it. I just couldn't believe I had this game in my possession and was playing it at home and could play it anytime I wanted to. FOR REAL!

[@dimitrisbam1132]

m8 you made me go back in time with your vivid description...no pun intended

[@mysterycupofjoe2670]

@@dimitrisbam1132 Ditto. People are also confused about the SEGA version. To me, this was another Arcade game. We need a compilation of all of them, including the Tournament Fighters.

[@johnnybensonitis7853]

That feeling.....aw man, it's one unique to the time for sure.

[@j.t.thomas1859]

The SNES version is better than the arcade version.

[@luciousthomas6141]

@@j.t.thomas1859 It was! One of the few cases back then!

[@Alianger]

I remember me and my cousin were so impressed with the character sprites that we used to pause the game in the middle of moves to "show off" certain looks and grimaces Honestly I think my fave is TMNT 3 on NES in retrospect, for the variation and unique special moves.

[@KairuHakubi]

Back when everything wasn't a muddle of hi-res textures and lighting engine nonsense so you could actually see what was going on.

[@Richard_Nickerson]

It's so funny to go back and look at what was considered good graphics in the past. I used to put the N64 on such a high pedestal.

[@olimpicus]

Same here the manhattan project was awesome!

[@supersexysega]

I always wished instead of Tournamnet Fighters on Genesis (it sucks for the most part) they would have made a beat em up ground up for the console, like they did witn TMNT III for the NES. Turtles in Time and Hyperstone Hiest to a lesser extent were really good, but ultimatelty made up of mostly of arcade content.

[@fritospie7982]

Its, "I remember my cousin and I were so impressed." Would you say, "I remember me was so impressed?" No! you'd sound like an idiot.

[@creativerealms]

The Technodrome stage is only in the SNES version. You go back in time from the sewer stage. The SNES and Arcade versions of Turtles in time have some different stages and bosses. That's why people who only played the SNES version thought that remake from years back removed stages and bosses, it was the arcade version.

[@Rodzilla97]

i think the snes game is better than the arcade. it's that damn good. it has more bosses, more levels, tighter controls, and a time attack and 2 players vs mode. arcade has slightly better graphics, and sound

[@stochinblockin]

That makes sense because the only way to defeat Shredder in the technodrome was to throw the foot soldiers at the "screen", something the arcade doesn't have the ability to do.

[@adrenalinex4]

@@Rodzilla97 true. I also think that mud boss made no sense. Slash was a more fitting boss imo.

[@TromaDogg]

The only thing I really wish the SNES version had kept from the arcade game is the awesome 'Pizza Power!' intro and theme tune before the title screen pops up. I still go back to the arcade original every now and then just for that. Otherwise, the SNES version was better than the arcade asides from a couple of missing speech samples ('Argh! My toes! My toes!)

[@creativerealms]

@@Rodzilla97 I agree the SNES version was superior.

[@Mari_Yumishi]

When you were discussing the different personalities of the turtles and you brought up the Leo is the leader but what does that mean. I always looked at it like, that Leo is more level headed and grounded in reason and is able to make decisions with out much emotion getting in the way and clouding his judgement.

[@kekeke8988]

Exactly, just look at any interaction between Leo and Raph.

[@QJ89]

Insert comparison to Blossom.

[@sabrinamiller3671]

Leo was my fave in the old movies. I think I'm the only one who prefers goofy Raph from the old cartoon to the standard hot-headed lone wolf in nearly all other sources.

[@JSN117]

Leonardo's character is waaaay more fleshed out in the 2003 series. You can even argue its the most developed character in that.

[@mechazoic]

Agreed, Leo was always my favourite because he was the most mature and level headed.

[@blainethemono19]

Both solid games, but that SNES soundtrack man... Unbeatable

[@legion1188]

I concur

[@dwaynestjohn5324]

Agree

[@ryanheckel37]

Ditto

[@Karls_Clips]

Idk man as a sega nerd i adore that synth sound and this game has awesome sound regardless.

[@TheBaioken]

Also graphics are smoother and levels/settings just more fun

[@c3ntury1337]

Streets of Rage 4 for J&MM?

[@backbeathighway]

Absolutely agreed, I had that same thought when Mike mentioned being pissed about how specials take energy because SoR4 handles that problem pretty well in that it gives you a chance to regain that energy.

[@localmusicians]

I think because tony and mike already did it, They might not want to do it again, Plus If I remember correctly Mike and James Did Final fight.

[@danielblake1537]

@@localmusicians I think they should play Mighty Final Fight that's like my all time favorite beat em up!! Just sucks it's not a 2-player game :/

[@matthewford3447]

Jie Pon They all ready did that two weeks ago on M&TT so there's really no point to do it on J&MM.

[@UltimateGamerCC]

SOR3 also made it a little less draining, if you let a bar fill up you could use a special and not lose health.

[@TheFartsandCrapsShow]

One of the best beat-em-ups ever. I personally think Hyperstone Heist is more fun and much prettier. The set pieces in Turtles in Time are sometimes fantastic and creative, but each stage is over too quickly, but it does depend largely on preference. Specifically, I think the sprites and backdrops and music are much better on Genesis.

[@gunsharck]

Spec savers mate!

[@masterman3178]

Such fond memories of me playing this on the ocean city NJ boardwalk in the 90’s. The boardwalk there actually still has this cabinet, and the arcade is still open. Playing it there in my 30’s really takes me back to my childhood.

[@cocolokoflacco]

fax

[@FurbyParade226]

Ocean City still has 6 player X-Men as well, at least as of a few years ago

[@TVsMrNeil]

The home version of Turtles In Time had a bunch of extra levels, including the Technodrome. You actually get sent back in time at the end of the sewer level. Hyperstone Heist is more like a compilation of the Turtles arcade games. It has bosses from both arcade cabinets and a bunch of stages from all over the place. I think the Shogun level from the home port of TMNT Arcade makes a partial appearance. Also, the surfing level is from The Manhattan Project. I think it also mixes elements of both sewer levels from Arcade and Turtles In Time. Rocksteady is in Hyperstone Heist, but not Bebop. Also, human Baxter Stockman is in the game for some reason. And they included Tatsu from the movie. The final boss for both games is interesting. In the Super Nintendo version of Turtles in Time, they changed Shredder to Super Shredder, but in Hyperstone Heist, it has the original Shredder end fight from the arcade Turtles In Time.

[@RealAlphaDrum]

SNES had the Technodrome as the only extra level and the addition of Super Shredder as the final boss.

[@davezanko9051]

Oh, and I forgot, the change of the hoverboard level from side-scrolling to an F-Zero like forward scrolling.

[@ENiceGeo]

Super Shredder is in the Hyperstone Heist. It's the same fight as in the SNES game.

[@bishopwalton3122]

Try the turtles in time hack for megadrive

[@gutz1981]

Seeing you guys play the game side by side with different characters, makes it feel like one game were the Turtles are out on different missions at the same time.

[@markcollins7089]

In order to get the "true" ending James you have to beat it on the hard mode I can make it to prehistoric turtlesarus before I need to continue. The technodrome boss battle is a pain where the foot soldiers always block your attacks unless you shoulder check them

[@LadyCoyKoi]

Hard mode is awesome in two player mode. On my own, I'd be lucky if I get half way in Prehistoric Turtlesaurus without losing lives. X_X Two player on Hard mode is the way to go.

[@marmcd2003]

34:39 he literally says it.

[@TheHauntedMouth]

Slash is the hardest boss in the game, by far.

[@chesspunk489]

@@TheHauntedMouth definitely

[@geonoberkin]

Those guy were a pain... until you realize you can just tackle (dash and hit) to take their guard out, then catapult them

[@nomikanyo]

I had Hyperstone heist when i was kid, and played it with friends so many times through. I don't think any of us had turtles in time, so didn't get to play it really. But heist always remains one of my favorite games on genesis and now days i of course prefer it over turtles in time, just because it was big part of my childhood.

[@crazyking1896]

@Ben DC4L It really annoys me that are so many people saying the Snes version is better, we get it you don't have to keep saying its better.

[@silverwings21]

24:05 I like the zoom in; I was thinking: "The name is right there on the screen".

[@Untouchaable]

It's time for them to make a new TMNT beat 'em up game.

[@prox8437]

Hopefully. I mean Streets of Rage 4 just came out recently so anything could happen.

[@TheyCallMeBruce13]

There is a new TMNT arcade game, and it's not terrible.

[@41dn]

They should release the 2012 arcade game to consoles

[@ProfessorxVile]

There's always 2016's "Mutants in Manhattan", if you can find a copy (it was pulled off the shelves after less than a year).

[@ZeroB4NG]

yes, but they NEED to get away from 3D... TMNT is just always shit in 3D, even the Nintendo DS that are 2D sidescrollers are better than the big console versions.

[@capswole81]

I would like to see a remake of “The Manhattan Project” as well. “Turtles in Time Reshelled” was fun too. I wish it was available in the PlayStation store.

[@sonicmario64]

Because of "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge" coming out next week, watching this video is a definite way of getting myself all hyped before the game's release. ^^

[@Justforvisit]

And, did it live up to the Hype for you? :D

[@gunsharck]

Why would you need to “hype” yourself for a turtles game???

[@sonicmario64]

@@gunsharck Well, for one reason, "TMNT: Shredder's Revenge" happens to be an excellent and properly-designed game that had a lot of work put into it, considering the fact that the TMNT video games were often praised for their beat-em-up action during much of the 1990s, and this game was able to deliver exactly what old-school gamers who grew up with the franchise had wanted, especially since a majority of the TMNT games that were released during the 2000s and 2010s had failed to do just that.

[@BellowDGaming]

James - "You didn't see videogames so well resemble the cartoons." Konami back in the day TMNT Arcade, Turtles In Time, The Simpsons Arcade, X-Men and The Punisher

[@ScottWozniak]

The Punisher was Capcom.

[@ArtofZenDigital]

Punisher was incredible. There are so many hidden moves that make it better than most arcade beat em ups. The best thing about it is, outside of Streets of Rage 2 on the Genesis, there weren’t many beat em ups from that era that had that many move sets.

[@Kourumeme]

Astérix and bucky o hare

[@UltimateGamerCC]

"Welcome To Die!"

[@Syklonus]

The special move taking away life has been a staple feature in beat 'em ups since Final Fight. It's basically there to stop you spamming the move throughout the whole game. Health pickups usually make up for it.

[@StormsparkPegasus]

2 years later, not only was the Cowabunga Collection released on Switch (every previous Turtles game, arcade and console), but there is also a new game (Shredder's Revenge).

[@SuperFarmerBros64]

7:37 James remembers watching a guy at the arcade beat the technodrome level, even though the technodrome level in only on the SNES port...ok.

[@filmaticpictures9693]

Could definitely be remembering the original arcade game

[@dieinfire920]

The special move described near the end of the video, the one you do on most beat’em up by pressing two buttons at the same time, it’s a “crowd control” move, you are supposedly to use only when surrounding or when you are getting your ass kicked. If it don’t take your energy, you’ll abuse it. Some games made this different by adding a separate energy bar that will get depleted when you use these moves ( some versions of the arcade X-men you get items, like shoot’ ups “bombs” to do the special mutant move). Also, James has been playing Konami games all his life, can’t believe still didn’t know you always need to beat their games on hard to get the best ending.

[@Zorro3k6]

I played Hyperstone Heist all the time as a kid. My friends and I loved it. I never had a Super Nintendo. So I didn't know about Turtles in Time until years later. That said, I'm still greatly nostalgic for HH. It was fun even though you do end up fighting the same bosses again towards the end. Not sure why they decided to program it like that.

[@1ButtonDash]

yea i always found that to be weird especially how they had rocksteady in the game but diidn't add Be-Bop. it had to be something due to time contraints or something.

[@Victory-in-YAHUSHA]

Sega Genesis hardware limitations.

[@KobayashiBrynhild]

Right there with you. I actually beat it on hard and got the true ending, but that was about 30 years ago, when I was 10. I don't think I could do it today, not without lots of practice. I do have cowabunga collection, though, so maybe one day soon I can do it again.

[@joerogan368]

Neon Night Riders had the best song out of any other SNES in my opinion

[@quezcatol]

Hyperstone Heist was awesome, I had it as a kid and friend had turtles in time- we played through both together!

[@jmn327]

Took awhile but I eventually owned both games; I think I ended up feeling like Hyperstone played a bit better, but Turtles in Time had a lot more features to keep it fresh.

[@DoomPlague]

Dracula X is fairly different from Rondo of Blood, just like the other konami games of the era. I only remember a few maps being similar. Pretty sure it was just Konami's strategy of saving on development costs by reusing things but still giving platforms exclusives.

[@kekeke8988]

Rondo of Blood is Dracula X. That's the full title. Akumajo Dracula X: Chi no Rondo (Rondo of Blood). The SNES version is instead called Akumajo Dracula XX, at least in Japan. Dracula XX is essentially a rearranged "hard version" of Rondo of Blood. It's like The Lost Levels compared to Super Mario Bros in that regard.

[@toiletsinjapan9933]

@@kekeke8988 its also cut down because they couldnt fit everything into a snes cartridge compared to a cd game

[@ShadowSumac]

Dracula X is more like a remake of Rondo - the levels and gameplay are completely different. The only thing is the same are character / enemy / boss sprites and the music. Well, and story.

[@ShadowSumac]

@@toiletsinjapan9933 Unlikely. Someone has counted and it seems Rondo could fit on the SNES cart, sans the music of course.

[@BeerBaron23]

Hard version? I find Dracula X is way easier than Rondo of Blood...

[@benhicks7491]

Finally got me with the ad 😂. I’m perusing the 1upcard site now

[@1upcardretrogamingcleaners570]

Let us know if you have any questions!

[@erichquinones598]

Glad they're promoting something they actually use.

[@Childof21]

Hyperstone heist was waaaaay harder. You felt like you achieved something when you beat that one!

[@supersexysega]

Naw it's really not especially if you use the slide move which is so easy to pull off with a dedicated run button. I think it might be what you're used to aswell. I was more used to HH so when I play TiT it's slower pace/stiffer play style is harder for me. Also double tapping to run isn't near as smooth as a button press.

[@555nih]

Hyper stone heist not only looks better but also plays better. This Chanel always picks Nintendo. >,>

[@supersexysega]

@@555nih It plays better but it isn't in TiT's league in regards to visual appeal, interest, diversity.

[@samuswilliams4576]

Hell ya bro!

[@gozinta82]

@@soramirez5473 Way less going on and less detail, less colors and SNES is way closer to the cartoon/movies than SEGA. Is there even a HYPER STONE in the game or a heist going on?

[@CainNuke]

The technodrome stage was a SNES exclusive so its very unlikely you have seen it in the arcade. In the arcade version you go straight into time travel right after you finish the sewers.

[@STRAKAZulu]

I see a lot of similar stages from the NES Turtles Arcade game in Hyperstone Heist. Like the garage section, with the car that tries to run you over.

[@erickowiatek]

It plays "Pizza Power" from coming out of our shells, not Turtle Power. "Turtle Power" is the end credits song for the 1990 movie, by Partner in Kryme.

[@ericroberts4932]

The song at the end credits of Turtles in Time (that's originally from the "Comming Out of Their Shells" tour) is called "Pizza Power" not "Turtle Power". "Turtle Power" is the name of the song from the end credits of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie.

[@dennismolina9033]

I currently have the Cowabunga Collection! Hyperstone Heist is up there with Streets of Rage 2! 😀❤🔥

[@orinanime]

It's actually "Pizza Power". "Pizza Power" plays at the end of the game. That's the song from The "Coming Out of Their Shells" Tour. "Turtle Power" is the song from Partners in Krhyme that plays in the 1990 movie.

[@shrews12001]

deep irony of the Switch conversation as i listen to this while playing the Cowabunga Collection

[@pumpkinking5397]

For some reason this session really stood out to me. I think it's because amid all this covid-19 insanity, this shows how people can really get together. Even if it's something as simple as video games, even though we're separated, we're not far from each other. Maybe it's because watching them playing old-school games reminds me of the times when I used to play those games next to my friends. This just brings it all back. But that's the point isn't it?

[@alexhobbs1208]

Back when konami was gold

[@Kourumeme]

Bucky o hare, moo-Mesa, Simpsons, and Astérix are good beat em ups from konami via licenses.

[@Captain_Neckbeard]

Konami and Capcom were the best third party developers. There were also tons of great third party developers back in the 80s-90s. I've grown tired of modern games, and I'm much more enjoying my retro games, now.

[@Kourumeme]

Imagine if Konami did a beat em up game on South Park

[@LadyCoyKoi]

Back when they actually gave a shit.

[@overnightdelivery]

22:10 James makes a Rookie mistake by not grabbing the Pizza with only 2 health bars left. I know they were just having fun but you notice these things. (;p

[@TheMultiGunMan]

I have Hyperstone Heist for the Genesis and I love it. One of my favorites for the system.

[@Victory-in-YAHUSHA]

Better than Streets of Rage 2

[@enternamehere9355]

"It's easier to look at that stuff when you're not playing it" I said exactly that when we had a family gathering about 20 years ago and I was sitting at the computer playing You Don't Know Jack with multiple relatives gathered around and my cousin whom I have been best friends with my whole life, as we were born only three weeks apart, yells an answer out.

[@Gladson]

Genesis: "it's really stupid that they did a boss rush where you have to defeat all the bosses again, feels like I could be seeing more characters instead" Nintendo, plays any Mega Man: "Wow that's a great idea, fighting all bosses again before the final one!" By the way, Zelda reference: in A Link to the Past you must face many bosses for the second time at the end of the game, I wonder if he thinks it's also stupid.

[@darkone292]

Hyperstone heist was the one I has as a kid. It’s also my favourite

[@ScorpioandSebek]

Hyperstone Hiest was my shit a sibling classic for 90s genesis owners.

[@ScorpioandSebek]

Lol I'm saying it was my shit and a classic game that siblings played together that's all.😉

[@ScorpioandSebek]

@Old School 😂😂😂😂😂

[@r0ckbass]

@Old School He's trying really hard to be funny, cut him some slack.

[@ScorpioandSebek]

@@krisfrederick5001 Oh wow that's insane gotta get with the 90s man

[@CyberLance26]

I got The Hyperstone Heist and me and my friends used to play it all the time on my Sega Mega Drive when i was a kid.

[@AtlasBlizzard]

Leonardo's the responsible leader, the one who takes the most after his master and is his obvious successor. In comedy terms, he's the straightman to the other three.

[@devilmikey00]

I feel like hyperstone heist is a bit more of an after thought of a game. Turtles in time feels like it has a plot and your logically going from one stage to the next progressing that plot. Heist just looks like they took the assets from turtles in time and threw them in a blender. Random shit happening in a random order. Also, the repeating bosses thing felt like one of those "oh shit, we gotta finish this quick, reuse some stuff to pad out the play time".

[@cameronwyda6672]

It's outsourced. Not developed in house by Konami like Turtles in Time was. Not so much an afterthought but a situation where they didn't have the proper resources to do Genesis games yet. Sonic/Sega's success caught the industry off guard.

[@Garrett316]

Just got Hyperstone Heist from Amazon today. Just played it with my wife and 6 year old daughter. Both loved it.

[@crobinson2624]

Think the reason why there were two versions of Turtles between the Genesis and SNES is likely due to exclusivity deals. Nintendo would get a “recreation” of the arcade game and Konami could get around that deal by taking assets from the game and making a different one for Genesis.

[@KairuHakubi]

oh that makes a lot of sense, so it wasn't sega asking for a unique one, it was nintendo asking for an exclusive port

[@kekeke8988]

So why do Hard Corps and Bloodlines use all new assets. They neither look nor play like total rehashes of Contra III and Super CV. Konami went above and beyond for seemingly no reason.

[@BeerBaron23]

Because the Genesis runs in a higher res then the SNES, so the assets from the arcade are very easy to port to the Genesis (they share the same res/aspect ratio). Assets/Sprites ported from the arcade to SNES would have to be redrawn. Hard Corps and Bloodlines use all new assets as they would have had to be redrawn anyways...

[@jacobindy8974]

I think the episode featuring the yellow xenomorphs was entitled: “Attack of the killer pizzas” but invasion of the pizza snatchers still sounds awesome!

[@pogue972]

I wish they would release these remastered on modern systems. I'm still mad Konami removed Simpsons & X-Men from the XBL store.

[@Athonite]

Konami might not have had a choice, now that Disney owns both of those IPs.

[@xSABRET00TH]

Not that i don’t own both versions but i love to hear people talk about Hyperstone heist everybody acts like it never existed lol

[@diversityandcomicsbear2625]

Konami was getting around their “exclusive titles” deal with Nintendo.

[@lindenstromberg6859]

That Sega "Genesis" vs Super Nintendo video James did is now 5 years old.

[@buddabudda]

Gotta be honest - My mind is kind of blown that James has never heard the term Boss Rush. How is that even possible?

[@UnoriginalFish]

He is not a gamer in the sense mike is. He is a casual gamer and its like an old hobby he had when he was on high school- collage. I think it surprises you cause people expect him to be a hardcore gamer as he did the avgn series. Truth is avgn is like a mini show series or a series of short films. You can see that on board james more easily i think. Because you don't focus on the board games as we focus on video games when we watch the avgn episodes. I was suprise like you were until i spend a lot of time on cinemassacre.com watching his movie reviews. He is a director- artist who uses video games as materials to produce movies

[@Nobunaga1983]

James really isn’t a gamer, he’s a reviewer/casual player

[@storageanddisposal]

Speaking of super moves hurting you when you use them in Beat 'em Ups, I like how Sonic Blast Man did it. Instead of taking away health, you get briefly stunned.

[@HunterPBrown]

Sounds like an episode of Console Wars.

[@LadyCoyKoi]

What a way to go all the way back to the past. O_O

[@KairuHakubi]

Funny thing is back then, the games weren't really competing directly for sales since you didn't have a choice, you bought the game for the console you picked.. instead they were competing for console vs console arguments.

[@HunterPBrown]

@@LadyCoyKoi ikr lol I love those guys.

[@doomislav5791]

Poor Mike was having SNES envy - and rightfully so from what I saw

[@igodreamer7096]

"Back in the time, when Konami cared about they games" Damn, I miss those times! hahahahahaa

[@nweditor875]

true there last good Ninja turtles game was on DS 3 Mutant Nightmare.

[@andrewhunter9119]

Why is it so hard for you to just say 'their' instead of 'they'? Its not any easier. You are legitimately going out of your way to sound like an idiot.

[@stevethigpen6242]

When Konami cared? When did “they” stop? Metal Gear series are some of the best games out there to this day. Snake eater is and always will be in my top 5.

[@Sparkfist83]

@@stevethigpen6242 Konami is not the same anymore. Snake Eater is one of the "back in the days" games now.

[@EatWave]

9:40 The developers working for Konami at the time knew how to play to each console's strengths so they made separate games sharing the same theme with stages which showcase graphical effects only possible on that particular piece of hardware.

[@cameronwyda6672]

Not true. Hyperstone Heist was outsourced to lesser developers.

[@TechCom101]

Most underrated TMNT character: Irma Langenstein.

[@Marc-pu1wm]

Mike never took advantage of Hyperstone Heist's best feature, the run button! He could've made easy work of that game with it, it makes the game feel different from Turtles in Time since it's way easier to take out certain enemies with it.

[@rogerstephenroth8073]

The best TMNT game is the arcade game where you could play all 4 turtles at the same time. If I am going to see a new TMNT game a multi player 4 player game is a must do for Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft no question.

[@daytimesky]

I think the arcade version had you go back in time when you beat the sewer level, instead of the technodrome. The arcade version had a surprisingly large number of differences to the SNES version, such as a full lyrical theme song about Pizza Power, supposedly taken from the TMNT: Coming Out of their Shells tour.

[@justblais21]

hyperstone heist was the jam

[@majorparker4329]

Enjoyed this, it’s my birthday and I always look forward to you guys videos. Thank you

[@villthewillain]

Both great games, I think the controls worked better on turtles in time though

[@itchyisvegeta]

23:00 - I LOVE the Contra 3 overhead stages! Who is with me?

[@LarryLopez91]

Well, I don't hate them like a lot of people lol

[@darkenforcer1651]

Bringing back the gud ole childhood memories cheeeeee

[@pancakenips3689]

Cheeeee

[@nerdiestmurdoch887]

I really like this side by side comparison of the two different games between the SNES and Genesis. I would love to see more where you each play side by side the same game

[@MisterMelange]

Wait a minute... are we doing this? Yes! It's time for... CONSOLE WARS!

[@TheZaius]

Hyperstone Heist seems to combine bosses from the original 2 arcade games.

[@TheKeyDateKid]

Watching this video, seeing both games side by side, visually I like the genesis version more. Tatsu means dragon.

[@XxMATTxXist]

Man i played hyperstone heist so much when i was a kid loved that game

[@lucid6519]

Castlevania dracula x and Rhondo of blood ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT lol you need to do 2 full play throughs of both.

[@tiagofernandes8389]

Akumajo Dracula X chi no rondo is the Japanese name of Castlevania rondo of blood.

[@cameronwyda6672]

HyperStone Heist = 8 Meg cart, Turtles in Time = 16 Meg cart. Hence why there's some reused assets, boss rush etc.

[@geoffreybrooks6041]

James has never heard of a boss rush? That's been an official mode in many games for many, many years.

[@maryjohnson5377]

I've been a gamer since Atari in the 80's and I've been through a boss rush in many games, but I don't think I have ever heard anyone call it that until this video.

[@SkunkStarlight]

@@maryjohnson5377 The earliest example I can remember where the term "boss rush" was used within a game was Ristar back in 1995. So the term goes back _at least_ that far.

[@PigeonHoledByYT]

Just like the name of the level, I always called it a Gauntlet. The Gauntlet from Hyperstone Heist influenced how I viewed boss rush levels in future games.

[@ENiceGeo]

@@maryjohnson5377 The earliest I can remember the term was in the portable Castlevania games for the Gameboy Advance. It was an unlockable feature. That was early 2000's.

[@scotttalarczyk5870]

Cinemassacre should do more videos like this! SNES vs Genesis games side by side play through. This is awesome 👏

[@Comandanterufian]

Castlevania SOTN was realesed on PlayStation and Saturn

[@teecakes]

Saturn version you could play as Maria and Richter, and had TONS of other bonuses

[@kbibeast]

I haven't played turtles in time in maybe 15-20 years, but I still remember every song from Turtles In Time

[@Victory-in-YAHUSHA]

Replay it in the new Cowabunga Collection :)

[@EarlDogg]

As a veteran of the “Bit Wars” I loved when a Turtles game finally came to my console (Sega Genesis) so I could talk that sh*t to my friends who all had that SNES that my version was better 😂

[@wesleycrawford7420]

The genesis version was never better though.....

[@thisisJim85]

Jokes on you. SNES was far superior to the Genesis, despite Sega's propaganda about how Ninen-don't.

[@CarbajalQZ]

You can see more shading details in the graphics on the Sega version

[@trippyskullz6669]

Shmups on genesis is due to BLAST PROCESSING

[@Bloodreign1]

More like third party support from companies who produced those types of games, like Toaplan, Technosoft, Compile, and a few other smaller developers.

[@chickenquesadilla8139]

Played Hyperstone Heist daily as a kid. Never had the privilege to play Turtles in Time though. Mike seems like he'd have been more receptive if not for the boss gauntlet.

[@dirkb9788]

What a surprise, the Nintendo fan boys like the Nintendo version more.

[@therealhard8times]

Exactly

[@andywolan]

To be fair, the "boss rush" in Hyperstone is a bit of a disappointment.

[@toyvania]

I would say that Shredder sending henchmen to change history in his favor was a smart move. The dumb thing was to send the Turtles exactly to the time periods where his henchmen went and the time portals are open. The plan would have succeeded had Shredder sent the Turtles to the formation of the Earth or to the Cambric to die instantly. I guess the game is very accurate when portraying the show because Shredder and Krang always had good plans but either one of them or someone from their staff somehow fucked something up and the plan went down the toilet.

[@truedashfan]

One of the best turtles game of all time turtles in time

[@S-TeC84]

Spiderman & Venom - Separation Anxiety & Maximum Carnage = Genesis FTW!!! Fuck "LJN" Tho.

[@hisson1984]

Turtles in time hands down

[@davep7176]

Im glad you are making longer James & Mike videos again. Being honest they are the only reason I still watch the channel, along with the AVGN vids ofc

[@guysafari]

Hyperstone is better. It's faster and has better control. I'd love for turtles in time to have a run button. It would make a world of difference.

[@TheyCallMeBruce13]

That run button is wasted on the Genesis controller, unfortunately. It's much more difficult to do the run-jump-dive move on the Genesis.

[@guysafari]

@@TheyCallMeBruce13 you gotta claw bro

[@TheyCallMeBruce13]

@Daishin no Dōro that doesn't fix the problem

[@48hourrecordsteam45]

🙌🏾

[@bashcrash9148]

I was a Sega kid. I grew up with this one.