Tutorial for Collar with Stand: A better, neater way to attach it.

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The Serial Hobbyist Girl

The Serial Hobbyist Girl

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@craftymystic4868
@craftymystic4868 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Just wrestled with an exuberant collar into its concave neckline a couple of days ago. Won’t be doing that again! Thanks again. I’ve a ton of older sewing books, do you happen to know which one this came from? It’s clever.
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@sharontuckerlewis7325
@sharontuckerlewis7325 Жыл бұрын
I too was wondering which book she was referring to.
@2653ID
@2653ID Жыл бұрын
I think The Busy Woman's Sewing Book by Nancy Zieman shows this method.
@kcastillo0319
@kcastillo0319 Жыл бұрын
I agree Nancy had a good version of Margaret Islander's burrito method.
@3RBK57
@3RBK57 4 ай бұрын
This method can be found in Sewing Magic! By Barbara Hellyer published in 1979. And cited in Shirtmaking, by David Page Coffin. 1993.
@joannfagen4457
@joannfagen4457 11 ай бұрын
Slow and easy works best, and you made the process clear and with a beautiful result.
@randomtscemployee5929
@randomtscemployee5929 Жыл бұрын
Follow up comment: I just tried technique after watching your video yesterday and O...M...G....its a total game changer! Not only is it easier, it's neater, and faster too!!
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl Жыл бұрын
Glad it worked!
@randomtscemployee5929
@randomtscemployee5929 Жыл бұрын
This problem is exactly why I gave up on collared shirts! Cant wait to try this!! Thank you!!
@mialemon6186
@mialemon6186 Жыл бұрын
This is so much more logical than pattern directions. Thanks!
@mialemon6186
@mialemon6186 Жыл бұрын
Just an update, I'm doing this method again today and it's STILL my favorite method.
@dianez9211
@dianez9211 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. I am a visual learner and I appreciate your video. I love to sew blouses with a collar, but I don’t look forward to sewing a collar. Now that I see there is another way, I’m excited to try your method.
@donnanz8913
@donnanz8913 Жыл бұрын
So grateful for this video, thank you! This method is used in the Liesl + Co All Day shirt and the paper instructions blew my mind as I've never seen this technique before. Your video held my hands and I will never go back to ugly collarstand / shirt seams. THANK YOU.
@mbs7078
@mbs7078 Жыл бұрын
Now I've made several shirts using this method- it's perfect!! The results are beautiful!! Thank you!!
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl Жыл бұрын
Wonderful!
@maryhashemi8249
@maryhashemi8249 Жыл бұрын
I never leave comments, but I want to thank you for sharing this technique and for explaining it so clearly! I’ve wanted to find a better way for exactly the reasons you described and can’t wait to try this.
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl Жыл бұрын
So glad it worked!
@helenparker1870
@helenparker1870 Жыл бұрын
Interesting method. I suggest you machine baste the top of the collar stand together and press open to set the seam allowance and then remove the basting before you start.
@joshuasoucie5596
@joshuasoucie5596 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video! This method was so useful, and you're a great teacher. 😊
@JonathanAylward
@JonathanAylward 7 ай бұрын
Watching this video as I hand baste my last collar stand ever. Thank you so much for this idea. Can't believe I didn't consider this solution!
@wyattcornwall1238
@wyattcornwall1238 Жыл бұрын
I am a 69 year-old man who just started sewing a couple of years ago. I have made several shirts for family and friends and have found that getting a neat finish where the collar stand meets the button band to be quite a struggle, even when grading and clipping my seam allowances! I am currently working on a Hawaiian shirt (Victoria Jones Collection 210) for my son-in-law's sister and am going to give your method a try!
@callibea
@callibea Жыл бұрын
This is genius, so much easier to control the process, with minimal fiddling. I have tried it, it was so much easier and am kicking myself for not realising it. Thank you for the video. I made a slight change when sewing the collar stand to the neckband & split that bit into 2 moves by just stitching the bottom of the collar stand to the neckband & then sewing the sides, making sure I didn't trap the button band. Thankyou. 💛
@solarwinds-
@solarwinds- Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the demonstration. You're a genius to come up with this method all on your own, GOOD JOB! I copy your method except I added a step. I stretch the inside piece of the collar stand just a touch so that the raw edges extends about 1/8th inch on each end beyond the outer collar stand. Then trim when stitched. That way the collar will naturally curve around your neck and the collar will lay nicely against your shirt when open. Nice tat, btw!
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl Жыл бұрын
Hi. I didn't come up with this method on my own! It's from an old sewing book.
@ASHLEIGHDAWN100
@ASHLEIGHDAWN100 9 ай бұрын
What an awesome tutorial! I found this incredibly helpful thank you so much! Also, if anyone struggles with your fabric shifting after you turn under your last little bit on the collar stand before you stitch it down- using a small amount of the white Elmer's school glue right where you want your fold to sit then set with a hot iron to dry it in place. It will wash out the first time you wash the shirt and will keep your fabric right where you need it while sewing.
@loismeyer6851
@loismeyer6851 4 ай бұрын
So glad I found your channel. I have not done clothes in years and wanted to make a shirt for me. I could not make heads or tails of the instructions. This is ideal. Thank you. 👍
@rjweems3291
@rjweems3291 2 жыл бұрын
I still have a way to go in nailing it, but my oh my did this video help me sew the best collar and stand yet. I will be coming back to this video again and again. Thanks!
@melindam2776
@melindam2776 4 ай бұрын
I think this is the method I'm going to follow from now on. It's so logical!
@elizabethlaliberte7263
@elizabethlaliberte7263 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best collar tutorial I've seen! The instructions you provide are so easy to follow! Thank you!
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad it's helpful.
@seauxmadre6069
@seauxmadre6069 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I love sewing shirts and am getting better with each new project but I could never figure out how to get my collar stand into my button placket in a neat way. This was exactly the help I needed. I'm so lucky I found your video. You solved my problem. I can't wait to try it but I know it will be better than the method I have been doing.
@coletteeluna7197
@coletteeluna7197 5 ай бұрын
Thank you, this tutorial helped me a lot in making a costume with a stand up collar. You are the best!
@juliewarnes6750
@juliewarnes6750 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, I have never done a collar with stand before and felt really nervous about it, this tutorial is clear to follow and a great help. Thank you x
@akbunny5221
@akbunny5221 Жыл бұрын
Just excellent...! I cant wait to try this method on my next shirt. Until now my collar stands always look a mess arou d the placket area, im sure this way will solve the problem. Thank you so much...! Mark.....
@edinacole6382
@edinacole6382 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I’ve been struggling with this recently. I don’t know why because I’ve made shirts for years
@keelyharris4600
@keelyharris4600 2 ай бұрын
I made my son a shirt a while back and the collar was the worst part. I ended up with a couple of "pleats" in the back of the neckline. Thankfully, he still loves it and wears it a lot. I'm about to make him another one and try your method. Looks so much easier!
@ceblair4974
@ceblair4974 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video. I am making my first shirt and the instructions for stand and collar and attaching to shirt was mind boggling. I found your video and watched, made so much sense. I will use your method for collar, etc. Thanks so much for posting 😊❤
@KaylaKershaw
@KaylaKershaw 5 ай бұрын
amazing!!! this has helped me unravel the enigma of the shirt collar!!!! thanks!
@johannaholmgren8088
@johannaholmgren8088 10 ай бұрын
Interesting texhnique. I have several sewing books, including two from the 1940s (one is a US book,the other is from the UK, and they were dutong the war) and one which is from the early 1970s, and was brand new when i bought it. Lol. I was 13 at the time. It cost me a dollar. Its by Simplicity and is one of the vest books ive ever used. I also have a set from Time Life, who put out a series of different sewing books. Somewhere in those books, I've seen different techniques for making collars, one of which is this one here.
@gloriahanrahan6734
@gloriahanrahan6734 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I have given up on even adding the stand collar and just done a bias tie on necklines because I just kept messing up right at the neck opening.
@julieryding2030
@julieryding2030 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this very clever video, this looks soooo much easier than the traditional way, I am a novice and was terrified of getting to the collar, but not now 😊 x
@stephaniestubbs3450
@stephaniestubbs3450 6 ай бұрын
Such a good tutuorial! Straight forward and clear. I will try this on a collar and stand of a dress that I am currently making!
@amyknott907
@amyknott907 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say that I followed this tutorial to the letter and came out with quite a nice looking collar! I was very hesitant as the pattern I had made absolutely no sense and I thought your tutorial would be overwhelming. However by following along and pausing I was able to come out with a nice neat collar. I did run into issues initially but found turning the video upside down helped me, and also I wasn’t attaching a stand. So instead of the stand at the end I just pressed the two seams down and joined the sides in a straight stitch.
@janegilson1886
@janegilson1886 3 ай бұрын
Just found your channel! Thank you for sharing this game changing collar technique!
@lindalardner3745
@lindalardner3745 Жыл бұрын
I have watched your video through twice now and at the correct stage with my second blouse tomorrow to attempt it. You make it look so simple but I always struggle as self taught. Wish me luck !
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl Жыл бұрын
You got this!
@julianachandler2975
@julianachandler2975 Жыл бұрын
Love this! Thanks so much. I was having a terrible time understanding the method that Vogue patterns suggested. This is brilliant.
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ritasarno1355
@ritasarno1355 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much I just needed to see this being done. I have been battling you have just reassured my confidence and faith!❤
@kellymartin1176
@kellymartin1176 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I haven’t seen this method before - I will give it a try 😊
@phillippalack2844
@phillippalack2844 11 ай бұрын
thank you thank you. Im just re-reading david page coffins shirt books . i always get stuck with the collar stand so this is an epiphany!!!
@rosg554
@rosg554 Жыл бұрын
Have been wondering how I would do the collar that way and you have shown me. Thank you. It looks so much easier to do that CF seam accurately with less fabric to handle also you can get inside and manipulate the layers.
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@nancyhastings-trew6106
@nancyhastings-trew6106 9 ай бұрын
Boy, is this ever slick! While I found the front band seam a bit tricky, it produces a very neat result! So much better than the method I was using. A question though, how would you handle this if it were a collar band without a collar?!
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl 9 ай бұрын
You could do the same and then neatly fold down the open seam allowance at the top and top stitch. That wouldn't be my preferred method though because I don't normally top stitch band collars. Plus, band collars don't fold out like collars with stand so they don't reveal the inside seam, so as long as the outside looks good, you're golden. The fact that collars with stand fold out, revealing the inside collar, is what makes it necessary to be very neat on the exterior AND interior. Does that make sense?
@LK10002
@LK10002 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I hate doing collars because they never look as good as I want them to (and collared clothing tends to be more formal so you definitely aren't going for a "homemade" look). I will try this next time!
@jacquelinegibson7420
@jacquelinegibson7420 3 ай бұрын
This was brilliant! Thank you so much, it worked very well for me.
@sharontuckerlewis7325
@sharontuckerlewis7325 Жыл бұрын
It is amazing that you have 15k views and only 1.86k subscribers. I am now one of those subscribers. This is awesome.
@lyndaleczycki2310
@lyndaleczycki2310 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much this worked out perfectly you have saved me alot of hard work l shall definately be doing this every time thank you again
@anaandress1322
@anaandress1322 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Will definitely try this method… my corners are never crisp… Looking forward to next my collar project!
@trishricklefsen9841
@trishricklefsen9841 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your demonstrating your method. I, too, struggle with the collar band method instructed on patterns. I like this approach and will definitely try it next time I do a collar.
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@JulioFrias-n1k
@JulioFrias-n1k 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, for the great video! It was a nightmare getting that part of the shirt neatly sewn.
@matoakae
@matoakae 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent method. Clear instructions! Bravo!
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@tknow9298
@tknow9298 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. I will sew the stand and collar as you recommend. I've not seen this method before, and it is much neater assemble. Nice video.
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@vickiwatson4324
@vickiwatson4324 Жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh thank you!! I have to try this on my next shirt this week!! I have a question which I'm hoping you can answer. I use a computer program to create my patterns for me but it always makes the collar and stand way too long. I make front zip shirts and it's really frustrating not having an exact pattern to go by. You mentioned this briefly but didn't explain the best way to figure out the exact length for the collar and stands. Is there any way possible you could explain the best method for that? Thank you again for this video, so helpful!
@rhondadaniel2331
@rhondadaniel2331 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Best method ever!
@3RBK57
@3RBK57 4 ай бұрын
This method is from Sewing Magic!, by Barbara Hellyer. Published in 1979. It is also described in Shirtmaking, by David Page Coffin.
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl 4 ай бұрын
I've never heard of Sewing Magic before, I'll have to check it out! And you're right, it is briefly described in Shirtmaking, though I hadn't noticed it until I went looking for it after I read your comment.
@kaydalby349
@kaydalby349 9 ай бұрын
Just a couple of questions, please. Did you use a walking foot? In the final stage, topstitching, did you reduce the stitch size going around the curves of the collar stand? This is an excellent tutorial, and I'm very pleased with my first try. Thank you
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl 9 ай бұрын
Hi. I don't recall if I used a walking foot but my machine has built-in dual feed, which works similarly. But this can be done without either of those things. As for the stitch length, yes, I usually reduce it a bit going around tight corners.
@juliaevans5969
@juliaevans5969 Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to try this method
@dennisflenderson6195
@dennisflenderson6195 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderfully clear and concise. Will give it a try. Thanks so much.
@donaldwarriner1640
@donaldwarriner1640 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent and super helpful in every way. Your terms, photography and narration made this work for me like no other vid I've seen. Thank you.
@nalineedewaraja9723
@nalineedewaraja9723 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing with us.very helpful to do the collar easy way. I’ve not seen this method.. I like your idea very much
@KnittingWithLjuba
@KnittingWithLjuba 7 ай бұрын
Thank you, this is now my favourite method!
@gache52
@gache52 2 жыл бұрын
Great sewing tips. I would have liked to see the final product a bit more.
@thaisoneon
@thaisoneon 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you’ll share the title and author of the book this comes from! Thanks for the great video.
@ginette2100
@ginette2100 26 күн бұрын
Game changer 🙌 thanks 👍
@atekandi6715
@atekandi6715 8 ай бұрын
It's a lot easier true. But l would love it if you made a video with the same thing but with adhesive too. Most of us new sewers mix what part is lined and what not when putting it together to sew
@Sewkniteat
@Sewkniteat 7 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot I will definitely try this method xx
@jayj4142
@jayj4142 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video! Would you please explain how this method would work for attaching a “Mandarin” / stand-up collar to the bodice? I have been struggling with this on a project I am working on right now. Many thanks again for making these helpful videos! :)
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl Жыл бұрын
Hi. I don't think this method would be as neat around the back for a mandarin or band collar.
@charleyyoung4902
@charleyyoung4902 Жыл бұрын
Insane!! Thank you so much for making this video, it’s such a help and really well done!!
@NadoCrowFriend
@NadoCrowFriend Ай бұрын
I stay stitch my short neck ( just inside the seam allowance) and then clip up to (Not through) the neck edge stay stitching. This allows you to lay the circular neckline in a virtual straight line, making it easy to then attach to the collar stand.
@miriamgladen9615
@miriamgladen9615 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. I'll try your method with my next collar. What's the title and author of the book you mentioned as out of print and the origin of this method?
@evelynboon3207
@evelynboon3207 2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous. I will definitely be using this.
@gmchencleeday
@gmchencleeday 5 ай бұрын
Graças a este vídeo consegui, finalmente, fazer um colarinho de qu não me envergonho!
@velovloger2553
@velovloger2553 2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! Thank you I’m going to try this on my next shirt. The inside slip stitch is a pain to get lined correctly.
@velovloger2553
@velovloger2553 2 жыл бұрын
Tried this out last night took me a couple tries to figure it out but I got it. Now I need to practice it more to really mail it down. I do think eventually it will give me a great finish.
@jimkoss3318
@jimkoss3318 11 ай бұрын
This sounds like an interesting process. I will try it. I notice you ’re using a walking foot. Is that necessary?
@BevEsch
@BevEsch 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this its so much easier than the other ways
@robichag
@robichag 5 ай бұрын
omg i could listen to the sound of your scissors all day.
@tsecord7111
@tsecord7111 20 күн бұрын
Same here! It brings back memories…..hearing this same sound when my mom was sewing. 💗
@sharongallagher3443
@sharongallagher3443 6 ай бұрын
Great idea and nice job.
@mbs7078
@mbs7078 2 жыл бұрын
I have a shirt cut out, and I think I'll try this method for it's collar...just made another shirt and those inner corners where the stand connects to the shirt indeed look awful....
@marymac4729
@marymac4729 2 жыл бұрын
I tried your method and although this is done in reverse from other methods the problem remains that the attachment of the collar to the shirt is very cumbersome. There is just so much fabric to wrangle to the smaller curved neckline on the shirt. Sewing both sides at the same time gives you many puckers… I am basting first but still feel it will pucker like mad. I will keep going but not really feeling right now that this is easier. I am sewing the Archer by Grainline Studios.
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear this method isn't working out for you. Have you tried trimming the seam allowances at the neckline down to 1/4"? That's much easier to work with than 5/8". If that doesn't work for you, I hope you find a method that does.
@silkenpaw
@silkenpaw 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you
@anaisl9176
@anaisl9176 Жыл бұрын
Amazing!!
@sheelaghgillespie6333
@sheelaghgillespie6333 Жыл бұрын
Whoop it worked, thank you so much xx
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@sheelaghgillespie6333
@sheelaghgillespie6333 Жыл бұрын
It did, have made 2 more since watching your amazing tutorial xx @@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@hennacorrie7345
@hennacorrie7345 2 жыл бұрын
Best method, thanks a lot
@enriquet548
@enriquet548 Жыл бұрын
Like this a lot!
@Pour_La_Victoire
@Pour_La_Victoire 3 жыл бұрын
This is very helpful, thank you!
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad!
@judykski4916
@judykski4916 Жыл бұрын
Exceptional content.
@davepierunc
@davepierunc 9 ай бұрын
My two collar band pieces never stay matched up. One always stretches far over the other during sewing. Maybe because only one piece is interfaced? I could interface both sides, and maybe try a walking foot, though in the past that hasn't helped.
@annecrawford6957
@annecrawford6957 Жыл бұрын
Great video it worked beautifully however there was no instructions explaining the interfacing while sewing unless I missed it??
@ritasarno1355
@ritasarno1355 Жыл бұрын
Interface wasn't mentioned but it's usually applied to the under collar and outer collar band.
@annecrawford6957
@annecrawford6957 Жыл бұрын
@@ritasarno1355 thanks so much I will put that in my sewing notes; I am very happy with the way my collar looks and so much easier 😀
@karenspizer3951
@karenspizer3951 2 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial. Thank you.
@carmensalome
@carmensalome 3 жыл бұрын
Very good tutorial!
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@metalkingtohorses
@metalkingtohorses 27 күн бұрын
super helpfull
@MelindaNewman-td4zc
@MelindaNewman-td4zc 8 ай бұрын
Another easiest method to sew a collar.🎉
@Jo81562
@Jo81562 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, could you mention the name of the book that you found this method in. Thank you, your video is great.
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl 2 жыл бұрын
It's a Singer sewing book.
@velovloger2553
@velovloger2553 2 жыл бұрын
I really like your hump jumper where did you get that?
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Mine came with my machine.
@velovloger2553
@velovloger2553 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSerialHobbyistGirl what kind of machine do you have maybe I can find it that way?
@annastites-foreman4132
@annastites-foreman4132 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I’ve been putting off finishing my first ever dress shirt because I didn’t know how to do this. O.K. Here we go….
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl Жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@van_vinos66
@van_vinos66 Жыл бұрын
Which of the two pieces would have the interfacing attached? One piece of my collar stand is interfaced and I can't work out which piece that relates to. Thank you.
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl Жыл бұрын
The top collar (the side that shows when the collar is worn) should have the interfacing.
@van_vinos66
@van_vinos66 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSerialHobbyistGirl Thank you so much.
@yvobalcer
@yvobalcer 6 ай бұрын
It appears one of the collar stands in your video did not have interfacing, is it necessary using your method?
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl 6 ай бұрын
Usually only one of the stands is interfaced, and it is the one that faces the outside. The one that lies against your neck is not interfaced. You can interface both, but it will make the stand much more structured, which may or may not be the look you're going for.
@suno8911
@suno8911 Жыл бұрын
Awesome tutorial. 2 suggestions though: a) use a printed fabric so that right side and wrong side are clearer to see. I’m an experienced sewist and yet I had to keep going back to check what you said. For people whose English isn’t perfect, they would really benefit from seeing it instead. And b) I would turn the video around to give us your view. Otherwise, it really messes with your head! Thanks though! 😊
@micheledellavedova7484
@micheledellavedova7484 2 жыл бұрын
Do you use interfacing on your collars?
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
@TheSerialHobbyistGirl 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, of course. I haven't watched this video in a while but if I remember correctly I mention interfacing. If not, I interface the pieces that are going to be seen from the outside, so the outside of the collar stand and the top piece of the collar.
@EileenNestman
@EileenNestman 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@SlapHappyRetirement
@SlapHappyRetirement 3 жыл бұрын
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@TheSerialHobbyistGirl
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@marf1605
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Brilliant!!!
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