TUTORO Review

Just after I bought the Honda CB1000R Neo Sport Cafe, a little over 2 years ago, British motorcycle chain oiler manufacturer TUTORO asked if I'd be interested in trying out their simple yet effective chain oiling system on my new steed.
Naturally I agreed! You can watch the installation video here: • TUTORO Automatic Chain...
In this review video, I'll talk about my experience with the Tutoro over the last 20,000km and what I thought was good, as well as what i thought was bad.
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[@woutermemelink4507]

Put this on my Ninja 1000sx, 2 years ago. Works perfect, still original chain with now 32.000 km on it. Adjusted the chain only once. Perfect kit, shame on the brexit to get it for a good price in NL.

[@AndyManCam]

That’s good to hear. Solid mileage!

[@roobbbyyyy123]

Hello i really want to get this for my N1000sx. I was wondering where did you mount the unit?

[@AndyManCam]

@roobbbyyyy123 You can see for yourself here! TUTORO Automatic Chain Oiler INSTALLED | Honda CB1000R 2020 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqixmGBnpq5geNE

[@philiplaurell1163]

Nice review. I chose the Cobrra Nemo 2 because you can use any oil, not dependent on viscosity, air temperature etc. You can even use cooking oil if nothing else is at hand... It's also a non electric, very simple and reliable system.

[@Titot182]

Nick's a sound bloke and makes these things around the corner from where I live over at Lydney Harbour,. I've had my unit for the last 10 years, moving it from various bikes when I chop and change them. Utterly reliable. Apart from when you put snowfoam over the reservoir cap over a long period of time, causing it to swell. Took it over to Nick where he spun it on a lathe to bring it back to its original tolerances.

[@sulaymanwaite7960]

Brilliant and comprehensive explanation! loads of good tips cheers👍

[@AndyManCam]

Thanks very much! Happy to help!

[@thecivvie]

I came across Tutoro after I returned from Russia when my expensive vacuum linked oiler let me down, which I hadn't realised at first and destroyed a new chain. Nick is really dedicated to his product and it shows. Every chain bike I have owned, it is usuay my first purchase

[@AndyManCam]

They’ve definitely come a long way and I’m really impressed by the simplicity of it.

[@forestboy54]

Nice review of an excellent product. Loads of my mates and my son have had this oiler for several years. None have had any issues even on long European tours.

[@AndyManCam]

Thanks mate! Yeah they’ve done well with the ‚keep it simple & do it well‘ mantra!

[@PovilasPanavas]

That was nice to see how it works. Thanks for the review! :)

[@AndyManCam]

My pleasure! Thanks for watching!

[@feanythmayosh5525]

Nice easy system. My Africa Twin is fitted with the ProOiler system with GPS. A lot more expensive. But I like the control on my "dashboard". Will replace the original chain this winter now after 48k km.

[@AndyManCam]

Very easy! No electrics OR vacuum will be a big plus for many who don’t want to mess with that stuff!

[@teneretraveller8980]

Couldn't agree more. Used the same unit since 2008/9 and its moved from bike to bike. Initially I had the dual feed nozzle, but when off the beaten track the shaking caused the sprocket teeth to catch and pull it off. No such problems with the single feed which is much easier to locate securely, and I've never had an issue with it. Generally get about 25000 miles from a chain and sprocket set, so instantly get your money back. Safe, happy travels 👍

[@AndyManCam]

25k is solid! Agreed with regards to keeping it simple. I had the Scottoiler dual nozzle on the Honda in Norway and had a few more issues than I’ve ever had with single delivery systems.

[@Mototherapy_online]

Well, perfect timing for a Christmas idea for my son’s F900R 👍 Thx Andy !

[@AndyManCam]

I’m full of ideas me! #AndyManSanta

[@RE650NZGraeme]

Well done AMC, I had to order my one from Europe I think, but I purchased it from your initial advice and love it! Just quietly gets on with its job! If you get the flow rate wrong, you can have funny/surprising cornering experiences, so best to be less and careful than more and generous. I have mine on about 3/4Turn out. I was 1.5T out and the bottle emptied itself in 100kms - an hour's drive over a 2000ft hill with great corners... and it spewed from the chain onto the outside of the tyre!! Lesson learned.

[@AndyManCam]

Happy to hear that you’re happy G! Yeah the slippery wheel experience is something you’ll only do once! Thankfully it’s not yet happened to me!

[@majordelays4909]

Sounds risky for everyone else

[@dannydaley7673]

Love mine, mounted it on the frame for the luggage on my Africa twin

[@AndyManCam]

Glad to hear it Danny!

[@BiglumpADV]

I've sat and watched this despite having a shafty, much be the entertainment value 👌🏻

[@AndyManCam]

Cheers Dave. That’s a compliment in the highest! 🙏🏻

[@trevormatthews6963]

Hi Andy I had one fitted to a Z900, did nearly 15K miles before I sold it and it still had the same chain and sprockets ( I didn't ride like granddad either) Rode to the IoM in torrential rain, chain still good. Just ordered one for my Z900 RS. Swear by them. As you said no electrical no vacuum. just need to remember to top the oil up.

[@grosbeakmc]

Great video Andy. Off to watch the installation... Only to learn I had watched it and commented on it already! Got a mind like a steel sieve, I do! Anyway, I ordered one for a spring installation!

[@AndyManCam]

Cheers muchly John!

[@grosbeakmc]

@@AndyManCam mine is now installed and I am looking forward to putting it to use. I hope to post one of my own videos about the installation soon. Thanks again for the review!

[@Purpletiger6Gaming]

Will have to look at getting one.

[@AndyManCam]

You could go far worse than one of these. I’m happy! 👍🏻

[@HalfManHalfPirate]

I have a shaft which doesn't require lubing but has the occasional polish 😁. My other bike is chain drive and has a PD oiler on it, It is wired in to a switched live but the advantage of this is it's easy to set the flow rate so fling is less of an issue. I like the look and simplicity of this oiler though and would consider one if I was looking. The important thing with chains, in my humble opinion, regardless of how you oil it is to regularly clean it and put fresh oil on rather than let the grinding paste of grit and oil build up.

[@AndyManCam]

I envy smug mode! So right about the paste. That’s why i like the oilers because it never seems to get to that point! Wouldn’t ride without one!

[@jamestaylor6072]

I have one of these fitted to my cb500x, as you say a bit fiddly to set up but does the job well, I have done 1900 miles and not filled it up yet and the chain is well lubricated,

[@AndyManCam]

Absolutely. The setup is always a bit of a faff, but once you're dialled in, it just works.

[@BN1960]

Nice video I had no idea these wre so simple to set up and use Schweet

[@AndyManCam]

Super simple! 👌

[@bloodyhell451]

I think i need one of these for Bessie (my old CBR600 F - the winter hack). I only did her chain last year and she's about to have the full sprockets/chain makeover......Admittedly, everything but the chain has 98000 km........ Talking of oil on the bike - this is no bad thing, provided it does not involve tyres or brakes. Oil anywhere else is a damn good idea. Especially in winter. WD 40 for the electrics, 3in1 for anything else. It's nice having a pristine bike. Oil attracts crud. That's why every bike I've owned has had electrical issues (except Bessie - I gor her young) because previous owners did not bomb it with oil/WD40 at strateigic points. They think it's better when everything is nice and clean and washed. Which removes the protective coat of oil. It's better to have a bike that won't rust. Wash the crud off and bomb it. And it sure as hell is better to bomb the connectors with WD40 on a regular basis. Just sayin !

[@AndyManCam]

I’m sure you’re right! Especially now I’m rocking the Austrian electrics!

[@stevelaw9410]

Got one on my VFR works great Andy

[@AndyManCam]

Not surprised Steve. Very solid product! 👍🏻

[@Wats1984]

Good bit of kit. Been tempted myself for my XR but still not got round to it 👍

[@AndyManCam]

I wouldn't consider having a chain bike without any more. The faff from before way outweighs the faff to fit! 🤣

[@phantomrider22]

Cool thumbnail 🤣 The angry AMC🤣🤣

[@AndyManCam]

It’s more of a ‚phwooar!‘ than angry, but i can see why there could be confusion! 😂

[@patadamson4005]

I too am man enough to admit to having shaft envy. Love your work Andy.

[@AndyManCam]

I am in the weird position that i envy he shaft massively, but don’t really like any of the bikes that have them!

[@patadamson4005]

@@AndyManCam absolutely! I have given far too much crap to the BMW boys to go there I’m afraid 😂😂😂

[@AndyManCam]

Haha! Yep. That bridge is burned!

[@Alex-if3sr]

have seen a few different looking products and some users mention putting the output tube onto the front sprocket as then the oil isnt flinged off as much

[@EpicAdamMotovlogs]

I was recently looking at scottoilers but this one looks nicer. It will work well on my Himalayan

[@AndyManCam]

Can’t grumble at the price and lack of need to chop into your bike!

[@andrewgent9334]

Good review. Looks like a tight couple of links around 10.30 though. Judging from Honda OEM on other bikes it may be the chain.

[@AndyManCam]

Yeah that chain was easily the worst I’ve ever had. It got stretched after a false neutral jumped back in at 6000rpm, in the first 2000km, and just went downhill from there. Very poor materials and workmanship from the Japanese giants.

[@tripledaveridesagain]

That's a great bit of kit 👌

[@AndyManCam]

Agreed! Simple yet effective!

[@ollyotts]

Nice review like always. What’s on the new lady?

[@AndyManCam]

Thanks mate! At the moment, nothing. But as soon as the temperature in the garage comes up a couple of degrees, the Scottoiler E-System will be getting fitted.

[@scottyuk]

I pondered on of these a long time ago as cheaper than a Scott oiler but the saving isn't that huge and you get all the down sides. I've had a Scott eSystem and found the display overkill and of course it's more wires to run. I now use their xSystem and its perfect. Easy install and easy control.

[@AndyManCam]

The display is a bit extra. I fitted one too my CB1000R and it was too much for the simple dash, so went under the seat! I think the KTM will be able to handle the screen up front much better.

[@scottyuk]

Just corrected typo from overfill to overkill. If you find a decent home for it then should be fine 👍

[@AndyManCam]

I thought as much. I’m as yet undecided as to where it’ll go on the KTM.

[@scottyuk]

I saw Bruce say on one of his vids that Sean is laughing at the KTM choice. Sean seems bitter After his SDR time and Bruce regularly puts down KTM ... whilst taking his BMW in for recalls etc. 🤣

[@AndyManCam]

Oh really?! About my KTM choice?! Which vid is that, I’m curious now! 😂

[@bccapone837]

Every time I went out on bike , when I got home I'd wipe chain down and then add new 75w 90 gear oil which takes 5 mins , look brand new after two years , best way in my opinion buy your way looks good for touring and making a mess 😆👍🏼👌🏼😎

[@AndyManCam]

Essentially it’s the same deal. Little and often. Or even less and far more often! 😜 Making a mess it’s all part of the fun!

[@christianweller4288]

And there’s me thinking that a Tutoro was a Japanese forest spirit. Live and learn…. live and learn. :D

[@AndyManCam]

Every day is a schoolday!

[@Viper6-MotoVlogger]

Very nice kit mate 👍

[@AndyManCam]

Agreed! If it works, i like it!

[@mikejgriffiths]

Cheers Andy. As long as my shaft is pulled I don't really mind 😜. You going to get one for the KTM, nice orange ally sheath?

[@AndyManCam]

I think most of us feel the same! The KTM is actually going to be getting the Electric Scottoiler, for a bit more on the fly control.

[@tomstc]

I prefer to clean lube and adjust, but I'm not a huge miler. Does look like a good option though

[@AndyManCam]

Makes sense. No need to unnecessarily complicate things. For me and how much i ride, it’s a real godsend!

[@cpuuk]

Had mine for 18 months, on my KTM, zero issues ;-) You need to find a good upright mounting point. Adjusted chain once in 12K miles.

[@AndyManCam]

Perfect! Not having to adjust the chain once a month is already justification enough for me to have one of these!

[@UKPeteGraham]

Hey, which KTM do you use this with? Cheers

[@Greggspies]

Power steering oil is the same oil, I read once from someone in the know.

[@AndyManCam]

I guess many oils are based on the same thing. The challenge is getting the weight right, which the ‚right‘ stuff has already done for us! I tried gear oil once a while ago and it was too light and just pissed all over the place. The mess and hassle wasn’t worth the 5€ i saved!

[@saidfrh]

Andy, How often do you clean the chain?

[@AndyManCam]

Once or twice a season. It never needs it any more often with a chain oiler.

[@FourIntoOne]

Guess you will be fitting one of these (if not this actual one) to your new KTM?

[@AndyManCam]

Oddly enough, i actually put this review together just before i fitted the Scottoiler E-System to the Honda. And it’ll be the Scottoiler going on to the KTM.

[@iamwezlee1]

Nothing like a self lubricated shaft! Lol! I really enjoy mine!😂

[@AndyManCam]

Self lubricating is so holistic and sustainable! Very on trend.

[@iamwezlee1]

@@AndyManCam Right?!

[@AndyManCam]

Bigtime!

[@deaconstjohn8643]

Will this be getting installed on the KTM ??

[@AndyManCam]

Actually no. I’ve been given an electric Scottoiler so that’s going to be getting fitted instead. Keeping things exciting!

[@kemadat]

Hi Andy just curious will U install tutoro to Ur new BIKE??

[@AndyManCam]

No. The Tutoro has been great, but I’ve been given a Scottoiler E-System to try so I’m going to give that a crack of the whip.

[@mrcintheuk4641]

I had the previous generation which quickly ended up in the bin. This seems more reliable. 👍 As I have a centre stand, so the chain is very easy to lubricate, I'll stick with gear oil per the FortNine vlog.

[@AndyManCam]

I had the previous one on my FZS600 and the same feelings! Too much or to little and i continually forgot to switch it off or even turn it on!! This one is worlds apart and it’s almost fit and forget. It sounds a bit hippy, but don’t forget that gear oil is hideously poisonous and polluting and it’s really only intended for closed systems. I stopped using it when i found out how awful it is. Scottoiler has a bio alternative in the pipe. Pun intended!

[@jamestaylor6072]

I used ep90 on my old bike but found it left my bike in a filthy condition, using this type is better for me as cleaning the bike is so much easier.

[@majordelays4909]

How bad is it for making roads slippy if everyone has one….

[@jamestaylor6072]

@@majordelays4909 Silly statement, about 1oz of oil over 1900 miles, much better than my chain locking up and throwing me off.

[@AndyManCam]

It’s a bit like saying „how do we get over the mountains of rubber on the roads, from all the worn out tyres?“. I reckon all the old timer junker cars and badly looked after wrecks bombing around out there are spewing more crap on to the road than all the chain oilers.

[@john-wq8kf]

Just get a small oil cam with trigger and use gear oil on bottom return run of chain mucho cheaper than £100 + of these things

[@AndyManCam]

For me the convenience of not having to carry a small oil can with me and constantly reapply is more than worth it. Fit and forget for most tours.

[@john-wq8kf]

Well I’ve used my little can for years and no way would I buy highly expensive oil can with a feed that potentially lubes your back tyre I disposed of a scotoiler which came with a second hand bike I bought for exactly that reason.

[@AndyManCam]

@john-wq8kf If that works for you, then all good. I personally very much enjoy having a chain oiler installed. Plus if there’s oil all over the tyre, it’s pouring out too much oil!

[@FxRiderST]

Maybe I missed it, but all road dust and whatnot is being stock to the chain and if you don't clean it, the dirt will keep accurate on the chain. And if you need to clean it, it defeats the purpose. Where am I wrong?

[@AndyManCam]

The oil is thinner than chain wax or grease, so it naturally flings off of the chain. As it does this, it takes the dust and dirt with it. So I’ve had to clean the chain far less with an oiler than without.

[@FxRiderST]

Thanks. Where does the oil goes on, outer links, inner links or in the middle? Or the nozzle is wide enough to cover the entire width?

[@AndyManCam]

It goes on to the sprocket which transfers it on to the rollers and the insides of the plates. A tiny bit obviously gets on to the outsides but not much.

[@critch.]

I thought these were great when I first installed mine in June this year... But I've turned mine off and will only use it if I run out of spray-on dry lube on long tours, like a back-up. No matter which oil I used the fling was awful. Even on the minutest of flow settings the fling goes everywhere but it's so fine you don't see it. The annoying thing for me was the fling on my top case. Every time I lifted it off and carried it, it was transferring fling onto my hands and clothes. It flinged all over my rear wheel and back of my indicators, rear sub frame. Very frustrating. I even tried chainsaw oil as its meant to more grabby and less flingy. The annoyance this thing caused me outweighs the convenience of having one, but with most things your mileage may vary...

[@AndyManCam]

That’s annoying. Thankfully my experience has been different, but it didn’t make your suffering any better! I guess some bikes have the goldilocks Bermuda Triangle of doom Setup for chain oilers 🙈

[@critch.]

@@AndyManCam oh aye i shall keep it on Andy, it will have its uses (thinking constant rain) and will not have been a complete waste of money, but on this year's trip into Germany the invisible fling became just too annoying and I switched back to dry spray lube. Your bike is totally different to mine though so you'll fair better by the sound of it 👍

[@AndyManCam]

The Honda was surprisingly good, considering it’s nakedness. I think the chunky single sided swingarm and the weird number plate holder did a lot of deflecting. Time will tell how the KTM fares.

[@capt.nandhakumar2009]

How does the KTM 1290SAS fare with this oiler? And mounting point suggestion welcome.

[@AndyManCam]

I’ve only just fitted it to my 1090 Adv so early days. I’ve fitted it to the left side frame upright.

[@whatsgoingon71]

I See the design hasn't changed at all in the last 7 years... I fitted one to my bike back then. It sort of worked, but the chain was still always filthy. Has to clean it anyway. So, when i sold that bike, i didn't bother to fit a chain oiler to the next one, at all.

[@AndyManCam]

I had the original version that had to be manually switched on and off and didn’t get on great with it. This one is vastly improved in my opinion. I personally wouldn’t go without a chain oiler as it’s one less thing i need to worry about. At least less often anyway! I’ve only felt the need to clean my chain once or twice per season since using oilers.

[@whatsgoingon71]

@@AndyManCam Mine already had that magnetic valve opening mechanism. And the same regulator wheel at the bottom. I don't clean the chain that often, but once you do it, you might as well spray some lube on it. The advantage of constant oiling die not appear that great for me, after i bought the new bike. But it might be much different for you as you probably ride more than i do.

[@AndyManCam]

Yeah i reckon it’s horses for courses, not for everyone. For me, it’s definitely the best way.

[@petermms1]

Hello this way you are only lubrificante the outside links off the chain.

[@AndyManCam]

Pray tell, how often do the teeth of your sprocket touch the outside of the chain?

[@eddiemizen3703]

Ooo suit u sir 🤪

[@AndyManCam]

Ooooo sir, yes sir!

[@iam_mono1892]

If only I thought of that invention 😂😂.

[@AndyManCam]

Maybe you can think of a better version 😜

[@Hemlck]

I could never get it calibrated properly…it either dumped too much oil and it went everywhere or didn’t oil it enough. The problem is UK roads…some smooth roads and it works fine…..Then on a potholed road or bumpy road it goes everywhere…maybe better in Germany with better more consistent road surfaces. Whatever you do don’t use on any adventure bike that goes on gravel or off road tracks!! No such issues with electronic Scottoiler but then they are way more expensive.

[@AndyManCam]

Could well be. It is a bit of a trial and error thing to get it right. I think i luckily found the groove quite quickly! I’m trying out the electric Scottoiler now. Few teething issues but looking forward to getting it on the KTM

[@goldie6579]

I watched this and I have shaft drive 😀

[@AndyManCam]

Haha! I’ll take that as a compliment! 😘

[@eaden9026]

There is no need of constant chain lubrication. Lube just protects chain from rust if bike sitting in wet garage. The actual lube is put behind the seals at the factory.

[@AndyManCam]

I wholeheartedly disagree as the grease in the chain can’t lubricate the surface between the rollers and the sprockets. Also the chain being moist helps to cool the chain a little and prevent the o-rings being damaged by heat. The chain on my Honda also made a horrible racket if it was dry and immediately went quiet when i put oil on it! Also the constant oiling means that the oil actually takes dirt and grime with it when it flings off and means less cleaning.

[@jamesgodden7620]

I think you misunderstood. The grease installed behind the o/x-rings by the factory is necessary to lubricate the rollers and their internal mating surfaces. As Andy has said the Lube we use on the outside helps to create a barrier to prevent crud entering past the o/x-rings, lubricate the mating surface between the rollers and the sprocket and as you said to prevent surface corrosion. Basically, there is never a situation where more lube is bad 😉 ....as long as it's the right sort of lube.

[@AndyManCam]

Is there a wrong sort of lube?! 😜

[@cport955]

I’ve had mine for 10 years on several bikes and the only issues have been human error. All I’ve had to do is buy replacement tubing and the odd nozzle

[@AndyManCam]

Same here! Didn’t trim the nozzles enough when i fitted a Scottoiler to the Honda for Norway. The nozzles melted shut and i first noticed when the chain ran dry 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@chewie8]

Scottoiler for me,

[@AndyManCam]

Each to their own mate! I’m trying out a new Scottoiler too now. Vids incoming.

[@chewie8]

@@AndyManCam look forward to that 👍

[@AndyManCam]

Plenty to come as i already fitted it to the Honda and will now fit it on to the KTM

[@chewie8]

@@AndyManCam I have the Honda, interesting how you rate oiler and setup. The scottoiler I find needs fine adjustment to get the oil coming out a steady rate.

[@AndyManCam]

I did struggle a little to get a setting that seemed right in Norway, but i also had self caused issues with the dual injector nozzle that didn’t help. Lessons learned to take on to the KTM!

[@stimgaze]

Three product reviews on the trot. I'm out. What a pity. Used to be the most amazing channel.

[@AndyManCam]

Okeydoke. And here was me thinking bikers wanted to see bike related stuff. Maybe it’s finally time to break out my knitting content…

[@mattmutane5502]

@@AndyManCam Nic can help you with that, Andy... ;) Thanks for the review, very useful (and spooky, I was going to ask if you were going to do a review now you've had it a while... thinking about getting one! - cheers! :) )

[@AndyManCam]

Haha! Good to know! It’s like a read your mind 😵‍💫

[@8000blue]

See the light, buy a GS

[@AndyManCam]

Nope! They’re just too big and chunky for my liking. The 1090 does the same job, but looks more athletic and lithe while it does it! 😎

[@grenphelps7455]

Chuck them in the bin and look after your chain correctly... 🤦🤦

[@AndyManCam]

As far as I’m concerned this is a different way to achieve the same end. My chains last way longer than they ever have with ‚normal‘ care. I know that means i wasn’t doing it right, but I’ll take less faffing with the chain every day!

[@grenphelps7455]

@@AndyManCam how often are you cleaning your chain with the oiler... because you still have to clean it

[@AndyManCam]

@@grenphelps7455 sure, and i do. About once or twice a season or after a particularly soggy ride. Otherwise, the lack of sticky chainwax means none of the goop sticks the chain.

[@grenphelps7455]

@@AndyManCam 🤦🤦

[@AndyManCam]

🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@seeul8rwaynekerr]

Nice review Andy. So simple shock based oiling rather yacc reliance upon a vacuum draft like the scottoiler uses. Didn't you have the former in your fz1? It'll be interesting to see a long range comparison after a big pan Europe road trip I think.

[@AndyManCam]

I did indeed have the vacuum scottoiler on the Yam. I’ve already been to the Alps and back as well as several long weekends across Germany. Performed admirably and only ever needed topping up on the really long trips.

[@TheSvst]

i'm selling my BMW R1200R 2015 with hard side panniers. millage 30k, location near Hamburg

[@AndyManCam]

Good luck. I hope you have more success than i did selling my Honda!

[@TheSvst]

@@AndyManCam i thought you would be interested in drive shaft :), but ok, good luck with your sell as well

[@AndyManCam]

Haha! I just bought a KTM, but thanks!