Thank you for sharing these wonderfully restored kinescopes. Just goes to show that they can look as good as the original broadcast with correct preservation and restoration.
@pianoman5510002 жыл бұрын
I can't believe how clear and sharp the images are in this remaster of the original Kinescope. I well remember this game show of the '50s, watching it on my parents' 10 inch floor model tv. Compared to the remastered copy, the original broadcast was very grainy, along with the occasional horizontal lines through the images. But we thought it was excellent viewing in 1956!! LOL!
@jamesfeldman4234 Жыл бұрын
I'm taking some swigs from a bottle of Geritol while watching this exciting match-up.
@kellicoffman8440 Жыл бұрын
Lol 😂 😂😂
@clarkejoseph492 ай бұрын
Is Geritol still around?
@gsnfan4 жыл бұрын
RIP Charles Van Doren and Herbert Stemple. Both lived to be 93.
@tomdalfonzo99593 жыл бұрын
Would it have been a good idea for Charles Van Doren and Herbert Stemple to reunite in 2000 and done a rematch on the NBC prime time reboot of Twenty One?
@joelwatson36843 жыл бұрын
@@tomdalfonzo9959 Herb may have been willing. Van Doren was so embarrassed he basically became a recluse. Refused interviews, refused to help with documentaries about the scandal, refused to help with Quiz Show. He only talked about it once in his “New Yorker” essay.
@fishbeinben3 ай бұрын
this is great, you can tell van doren is acting, but i love it anyway. they should rig jeopardy if it would be this entertaining
@FUGP72 Жыл бұрын
Until this very second, thanks not only to the movie but also to many many documentaries, I always thought the final question was Marty. And here I learn it wasn't even the final game! So Herb still had plenty of chances to double cross the producers. Well after On the Waterfront.
@jamesofglory2 жыл бұрын
11:40 You can literally see him glance at the camera/audience and shake his head as SOON as he says the answer. Yes at the time this may have been construed as an 'ugh i just can't place it' look of commiseration with the camera but with hindsight it seems so obvious that he's trying to signal that it's OBVIOUSLY not 'on the waterfront' that he knows but can't say it.
@byrd562 жыл бұрын
So this was where Herb was told to take the dive by answering "On the Waterfront" instead of "Marty"?
@df5295 Жыл бұрын
He also said On The Waterfront which is the same question Van Doren got! I also liked when he said Henry the VIII's wives all died! He was trying to show it was all fake!
@chrisfinch86373 жыл бұрын
In my humble opinion, the original broadcast and setup of this episode, was way better than seeing it in the style of “Quiz Show”, since it was much more extended and also had more suspense built into it, as well as show what question Stempel actually lost on, and how the game was won by Van Doren. The movie version was okay, and it was reasonable for their style of the episode to be sped up, in order to get back into the movie’s storyline, as well as character’s backgrounds, but it doesn’t have the true story of what actually happened during the game, itself.
@riofanl36382 жыл бұрын
Well it wasn't even trying to be better quiz show was showing us what happen
@chrisfinch86372 жыл бұрын
@@riofanl3638 The movie showed what happened in their way, in which was very different to what was shown here.
@Tdawg93a Жыл бұрын
Do you expect them to put the entire episode in the film?
@kanjigarsectum10333 жыл бұрын
thanks for uploading this video. I did not know the program, recently I began to investigate about the game shows, their history and evolution and the scandal of what happened in this episode was what brought me here
@canyonbachan83283 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic quality! Thank you so much for this!
@VectraQS Жыл бұрын
This transfer is so good that you can see the dust on the screen in the kinescope. Holy moly.
@auggie8033 ай бұрын
Holy moly Bat man ! !
@gameshowguy20002 жыл бұрын
10:20 THIS was the question that forced Stempel to take the dive.
@kevinfitzmaurice40723 жыл бұрын
4:47--"I'm not sure I should do this."
@TomCurtis-t2r2 жыл бұрын
Quality is so good
@tjsudac4 жыл бұрын
12:40 His process of thinking and gestures look so unnatural and scripted. I can almost see 'answer loading' tab on his forehad before providing an answer.
@Amethyst_Friend2 жыл бұрын
But you never would have suspected at the time
@thewkovacs3162 жыл бұрын
@@Amethyst_Friend only because you could only watch the show once a week....but if you watch epis back to back, you will start to notice a pattern in how contestants behave and how they answer questions
@JonesDylan8749 ай бұрын
The world is indebted to you for this!
@jaymorgenthal94793 жыл бұрын
I love the film Quiz Show but the opening song used is Bobby Darin signing Mack the Knife which came out in 1959 , not 1956 when this episode aired .
@RichS-jy7sb3 ай бұрын
I read a long time ago that they used "Mack the Knife" for the purpose of giving the film the 1950s 'flavor' they wanted to emit. I guess they figured if they took a 1956 tune like "Cindy, Oh Cindy" or "A Rose and a Baby Ruth" it wouldn't have worked.
@DevilboyScooby2 жыл бұрын
Interesting how one is Mr Van Doren, the other is "Herb".
@pianoman5510002 жыл бұрын
Yes it is! However, back in the '50s, a person ( like Van Doren) who held advanced degrees and taught at a college (Colombia) was addressed more formally than an ex-GI.
@JohnDoe-wb4iv2 жыл бұрын
I remember when this happened. At the time everyone thought if it was on tv it had to b true
@keithhyttinen82752 жыл бұрын
I need some zarumin.
@snootybaronet2 жыл бұрын
Crooked corporate media.
@JohnDoe-wb4iv2 жыл бұрын
I remember this I was only 3 but with an idetic memory
@feliciagallo9832 Жыл бұрын
Wow!! You have an eidetic memory? You are an extremely rare human being and I always wondered what it would be like to remember every second of every day of one's life. I would think there are some days you would like to forget. Wild.
@darijoe13 жыл бұрын
Well they all died! R.I.P.
@James_Bowie2 жыл бұрын
Herb said he didn't get $49,500 because the low life producer Enright kept a large part of it for himself.
@vpking7711 ай бұрын
That could never happen today.
@pinedelgado474310 ай бұрын
There was something so "Charles Lindbergh" about Charles Van Doren.
@d_123stl7 Жыл бұрын
"What's The Matter With Kansas" is also a 2004 book by Thomas Frank which I have always wished I read. I suppose I could just read the editorial instead?
@paulbarber9599 Жыл бұрын
I wish they show some of these old classic game shows on tv have some of them on dvds that I got from a private collector they show some of the old game shows on the buzzer game show channel but not this one
@bill29532 жыл бұрын
VanDorn could ham it up with the best of em.. Hahaha what a performance.
@zapdunga127 ай бұрын
This was so stupid. This show aired in December 1956, and the academy award show in which 'Marty' won 4 awards was on in March 1956, just 9 months prior. To think Herb Stemple would not know that is totally ridiculous!😅
@gameshowguy20003 ай бұрын
No, he DID know, but they wanted him to take the dive.
@someguy4911Ай бұрын
There was an interview with Herb Stemple years later where he said the movie "Marty" was actually one of his favorites. He was told to take a dive on that question and felt humiliated when he had to say he could not remember.
@harrykargenian50139 ай бұрын
The funny thing about the whole scandal is, Stempel could have stopped the game after the second round and won an additional $32,000 and knocked Charles Van Doren off the air. History would have been so different had that happened.
@thatllputmarzipaninyourpie31172 жыл бұрын
Didn't that host do The Joker's Wild in the 70's?
@williamdunphy352 Жыл бұрын
Yes he did.
@bmasters1981Ай бұрын
@@williamdunphy352 And produced it as well under Barry and Enright Productions (as well as Tic Tac Dough and Bullseye [one w/Wink Martindale, the other w/Jim Lange]).
@witherblaze2 жыл бұрын
Do you have any more of these episodes?
@TheEvilChocolateCookie11 ай бұрын
This is the one that caused the big scandal, right? I’ve been looking for it and I’m hoping I just lucked out.
@JonesDylan8749 ай бұрын
It sure is.
@TheEvilChocolateCookie9 ай бұрын
@@JonesDylan874 i’m a happy human. I didn’t figure any footage of this existed. This makes me wanna dance around like a three-year-old. I’m probably going to be riding a book about game show scandal soon and I need to find as many episodes as I can, so I at least have my facts straight.
@joycebutz70643 жыл бұрын
I’m hoping to locate the taping of a John Baird vs Harold Craig. Would anyone have it here? Thank you.
@theweysermanisback5205 Жыл бұрын
24:33 Well, they all died.
@Edward-dd9tf11 ай бұрын
Were the two girls who put the contestants in the isolation booth twins?
@christophertsiliacos8958 Жыл бұрын
Rigged or not, was a crime committed? I think not. As long as the producers, sponsors, the network, and the contestants were all in on it - no crime was committed. It was all in the name of entertainment, and entertainment they achieved. Was what they did unethical? Perhaps, but it was not illegal. It was the producer’s money to spend as they please, and with whom they please.
@PhilMante9 ай бұрын
Honestly, not much has changed. According to some, Wheel of Fortune is rigged to cater to the best looking & most enthusiastic contestants.
@jamescooperman8 ай бұрын
It was not a crime at the time. The New York grand jury that was empaneled in 1958 to investigate returned no indictments. Many people perjured themselves to the grand jury, which of course is a crime, but were never prosecuted for it. Congress then conducted its own investigation, which it can do to determine whether a law should be enacted, even if none is in place. That was the context in which Van Doren made his famous public confession, under penalty of perjury from Congressional subpoena. Congress then enacted a law that made game fixing a crime under the Federal Communications Act.
@tugboat2030 Жыл бұрын
Not Marty
@DannyZolp2 жыл бұрын
BELTMANN!
@LRS9056 ай бұрын
I thought these idiots could not know when they time for "thinking" is over, Van Doren immediately goes to the microphone, at 12:51, when that annoying music stops, lol