Twenty One (Game Show) Famous episode of December 5, 1956

[@marvinmuonekejazz]

Thank you for sharing these wonderfully restored kinescopes. Just goes to show that they can look as good as the original broadcast with correct preservation and restoration.

[@pianoman551000]

I can't believe how clear and sharp the images are in this remaster of the original Kinescope. I well remember this game show of the '50s, watching it on my parents' 10 inch floor model tv. Compared to the remastered copy, the original broadcast was very grainy, along with the occasional horizontal lines through the images. But we thought it was excellent viewing in 1956!! LOL!

[@jamesfeldman4234]

I'm taking some swigs from a bottle of Geritol while watching this exciting match-up.

[@kellicoffman8440]

Lol 😂 😂😂

[@clarkejoseph49]

Is Geritol still around?

[@gsnfan]

RIP Charles Van Doren and Herbert Stemple. Both lived to be 93.

[@tomdalfonzo9959]

Would it have been a good idea for Charles Van Doren and Herbert Stemple to reunite in 2000 and done a rematch on the NBC prime time reboot of Twenty One?

[@joelwatson3684]

@@tomdalfonzo9959 Herb may have been willing. Van Doren was so embarrassed he basically became a recluse. Refused interviews, refused to help with documentaries about the scandal, refused to help with Quiz Show. He only talked about it once in his “New Yorker” essay.

[@fishbeinben]

this is great, you can tell van doren is acting, but i love it anyway. they should rig jeopardy if it would be this entertaining

[@FUGP72]

Until this very second, thanks not only to the movie but also to many many documentaries, I always thought the final question was Marty. And here I learn it wasn't even the final game! So Herb still had plenty of chances to double cross the producers. Well after On the Waterfront.

[@jamesofglory]

11:40 You can literally see him glance at the camera/audience and shake his head as SOON as he says the answer. Yes at the time this may have been construed as an 'ugh i just can't place it' look of commiseration with the camera but with hindsight it seems so obvious that he's trying to signal that it's OBVIOUSLY not 'on the waterfront' that he knows but can't say it.

[@byrd56]

So this was where Herb was told to take the dive by answering "On the Waterfront" instead of "Marty"?

[@df5295]

He also said On The Waterfront which is the same question Van Doren got! I also liked when he said Henry the VIII's wives all died! He was trying to show it was all fake!

[@chrisfinch8637]

In my humble opinion, the original broadcast and setup of this episode, was way better than seeing it in the style of “Quiz Show”, since it was much more extended and also had more suspense built into it, as well as show what question Stempel actually lost on, and how the game was won by Van Doren. The movie version was okay, and it was reasonable for their style of the episode to be sped up, in order to get back into the movie’s storyline, as well as character’s backgrounds, but it doesn’t have the true story of what actually happened during the game, itself.

[@riofanl3638]

Well it wasn't even trying to be better quiz show was showing us what happen

[@chrisfinch8637]

@@riofanl3638 The movie showed what happened in their way, in which was very different to what was shown here.

[@Tdawg93a]

Do you expect them to put the entire episode in the film?

[@kanjigarsectum1033]

thanks for uploading this video. I did not know the program, recently I began to investigate about the game shows, their history and evolution and the scandal of what happened in this episode was what brought me here

[@canyonbachan8328]

This is fantastic quality! Thank you so much for this!

[@VectraQS]

This transfer is so good that you can see the dust on the screen in the kinescope. Holy moly.

[@auggie803]

Holy moly Bat man ! !

[@gameshowguy2000]

10:20 THIS was the question that forced Stempel to take the dive.

[@kevinfitzmaurice4072]

4:47--"I'm not sure I should do this."

[@TomCurtis-t2r]

Quality is so good

[@tjsudac]

12:40 His process of thinking and gestures look so unnatural and scripted. I can almost see 'answer loading' tab on his forehad before providing an answer.

[@Amethyst_Friend]

But you never would have suspected at the time

[@thewkovacs316]

@@Amethyst_Friend only because you could only watch the show once a week....but if you watch epis back to back, you will start to notice a pattern in how contestants behave and how they answer questions

[@JonesDylan874]

The world is indebted to you for this!

[@jaymorgenthal9479]

I love the film Quiz Show but the opening song used is Bobby Darin signing Mack the Knife which came out in 1959 , not 1956 when this episode aired .

[@RichS-jy7sb]

I read a long time ago that they used "Mack the Knife" for the purpose of giving the film the 1950s 'flavor' they wanted to emit. I guess they figured if they took a 1956 tune like "Cindy, Oh Cindy" or "A Rose and a Baby Ruth" it wouldn't have worked.

[@DevilboyScooby]

Interesting how one is Mr Van Doren, the other is "Herb".

[@pianoman551000]

Yes it is! However, back in the '50s, a person ( like Van Doren) who held advanced degrees and taught at a college (Colombia) was addressed more formally than an ex-GI.

[@JohnDoe-wb4iv]

I remember when this happened. At the time everyone thought if it was on tv it had to b true

[@keithhyttinen8275]

I need some zarumin.

[@snootybaronet]

Crooked corporate media.

[@JohnDoe-wb4iv]

I remember this I was only 3 but with an idetic memory

[@feliciagallo9832]

Wow!! You have an eidetic memory? You are an extremely rare human being and I always wondered what it would be like to remember every second of every day of one's life. I would think there are some days you would like to forget. Wild.

[@darijoe1]

Well they all died! R.I.P.

[@James_Bowie]

Herb said he didn't get $49,500 because the low life producer Enright kept a large part of it for himself.

[@vpking77]

That could never happen today.

[@pinedelgado4743]

There was something so "Charles Lindbergh" about Charles Van Doren.

[@d_123stl7]

"What's The Matter With Kansas" is also a 2004 book by Thomas Frank which I have always wished I read. I suppose I could just read the editorial instead?

[@paulbarber9599]

I wish they show some of these old classic game shows on tv have some of them on dvds that I got from a private collector they show some of the old game shows on the buzzer game show channel but not this one

[@bill2953]

VanDorn could ham it up with the best of em.. Hahaha what a performance.

[@zapdunga12]

This was so stupid. This show aired in December 1956, and the academy award show in which 'Marty' won 4 awards was on in March 1956, just 9 months prior. To think Herb Stemple would not know that is totally ridiculous!😅

[@gameshowguy2000]

No, he DID know, but they wanted him to take the dive.

[@someguy4911]

There was an interview with Herb Stemple years later where he said the movie "Marty" was actually one of his favorites. He was told to take a dive on that question and felt humiliated when he had to say he could not remember.

[@harrykargenian5013]

The funny thing about the whole scandal is, Stempel could have stopped the game after the second round and won an additional $32,000 and knocked Charles Van Doren off the air. History would have been so different had that happened.

[@thatllputmarzipaninyourpie3117]

Didn't that host do The Joker's Wild in the 70's?

[@williamdunphy352]

Yes he did.

[@bmasters1981]

@@williamdunphy352 And produced it as well under Barry and Enright Productions (as well as Tic Tac Dough and Bullseye [one w/Wink Martindale, the other w/Jim Lange]).

[@witherblaze]

Do you have any more of these episodes?

[@TheEvilChocolateCookie]

This is the one that caused the big scandal, right? I’ve been looking for it and I’m hoping I just lucked out.

[@JonesDylan874]

It sure is.

[@TheEvilChocolateCookie]

@@JonesDylan874 i’m a happy human. I didn’t figure any footage of this existed. This makes me wanna dance around like a three-year-old. I’m probably going to be riding a book about game show scandal soon and I need to find as many episodes as I can, so I at least have my facts straight.

[@joycebutz7064]

I’m hoping to locate the taping of a John Baird vs Harold Craig. Would anyone have it here? Thank you.

[@theweysermanisback5205]

24:33 Well, they all died.

[@Edward-dd9tf]

Were the two girls who put the contestants in the isolation booth twins?

[@christophertsiliacos8958]

Rigged or not, was a crime committed? I think not. As long as the producers, sponsors, the network, and the contestants were all in on it - no crime was committed. It was all in the name of entertainment, and entertainment they achieved. Was what they did unethical? Perhaps, but it was not illegal. It was the producer’s money to spend as they please, and with whom they please.

[@PhilMante]

Honestly, not much has changed. According to some, Wheel of Fortune is rigged to cater to the best looking & most enthusiastic contestants.

[@jamescooperman]

It was not a crime at the time. The New York grand jury that was empaneled in 1958 to investigate returned no indictments. Many people perjured themselves to the grand jury, which of course is a crime, but were never prosecuted for it. Congress then conducted its own investigation, which it can do to determine whether a law should be enacted, even if none is in place. That was the context in which Van Doren made his famous public confession, under penalty of perjury from Congressional subpoena. Congress then enacted a law that made game fixing a crime under the Federal Communications Act.

[@tugboat2030]

Not Marty

[@DannyZolp]

BELTMANN!

[@LRS905]

I thought these idiots could not know when they time for "thinking" is over, Van Doren immediately goes to the microphone, at 12:51, when that annoying music stops, lol