Aoe2: Is It Possible to Win the El Cid Campaign Without Killing Enemy Units?

[@T-West]

It took a few years, but I came up with a better solution for doing King Sancho's tournament: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4GogHSYfbKgedkfeature=shared

[@brigwilson1297]

T-West: Other than 2 kills, we have successfully completed the campaign through pacifism! *769 total deaths from this campaign* T-West: I might struggle sleeping at night over those two kills.

[@encoreperformance1081]

I might do an Immortals Campaign where I attempt to win scenarios with no losses's

[@kirti98]

I think you could've used "torpedo3" to avoid "kill" twice. 1st time for champion second time for knight.

[@hamdepaf6686]

@@kirti98 cheats aren't part of the challenge, they where only used to test out what is needed to win

[@Jesusfreakandproud10]

Actually since it’s a tournament, they only got knocked unconscious ;)

[@T-West]

That's not what the Achievements screen tells me :'(

[@justxavier9999]

Ya they only fainted and just need a few beeps at the Pokémon Center

[@greulich9635]

@@T-West If it works for LA HIRE then it works for El Cid

[@faceoctopus4571]

Like La Hire if vanquished in Cleansing of the Loire!

[@abhishekjain3148]

Especially because it's a tournament, those fellas (and the horse) are dead.

[@georgiusagricola4720]

i believe they are just injured, like la Hire.

[@micahbush5397]

Their fighting spirits may have died, but their bodies were carried back to the castle and nursed back to full health.

[@maxmustsleep]

Absolutely!

[@gerriejordaan8385]

I like the sound of that. I never understood when i was a kid playing this first scenario as to why these two had to be taken out through dying if this was a medieval tournament rather than simply submitting once a certain amount of health was depleted. Pretty sure that not all competitors were take in out in real life during such festivities.

[@starbuckqbb2287]

A true pacifist would have let El Cid die in the tournament of champions. 1 death is less than 2 :)

[@cdcdrr]

But if El Cid had died, he could not have led the army of Pacifism to Toledo, and the slaughter there would continue. Yusuf would have conquered Spain, killing Moors and Spanish alike. And Berenguar would have seized Valencia, killing its people. The question then becomes: how many lives were saved because El Cid killed 2 men under duress?

[@T-West]

@@cdcdrr Sounds like another trolley problem.

[@mrgaudy1954]

cdcdrr Utilitarianism ftw

[@micahbush5397]

Besides, the question is whether we can WIN the scenario, and killing El Cid always results in defeat.

[@GodzThirdLeg]

@@T-West The answer to the trolley problem is Multi Track Drifting

[@anoob1987]

Your story telling is as good as these pacifist runs, and that's actually a very high bar!

[@devilpistons1269]

If you joined an esports team, would your name become "Apro Razak"?

[@Plasticcaz]

I wasn't expecting the pacifist runs back yet, but I'm pleasantly surpriesed!

[@mwolsen96]

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

[@Coligne]

Nobody expect the Spanish (pacifistic) Inquisition!

[@jordinagel1184]

Of course you weren’t expecting a pacifist run for the Spanish campaign!

[@TheArgentAgent]

Potential Pacifism Bonus in Scenario 3: When El Cid is leaving Alfonso's fortress, when a trigger sets your diplomacy towards Alfonso from Ally to Enemy (which causes Alfonso to set you from Ally to Enemy), you can quickly go to the diplomacy menu once Alfonso begins talking to you and set him back to Ally (before he sets you to enemy), ensuring that the two of you will be in peace and that El Cid doesn't even have to destroy Alfonso's Castle near Motamid's city.

[@dk9]

So does this cause Alfonso to set back to ally? I’m going to test this on HD since I don’t yet have DE. Thanks!

[@UltimateSpinDash]

T-West: We are pacifists, we don't kill! Also T-West: Orders his units to commit suicide. Also T-West: Employs literal suicide bombers.

[@picopanpipe9]

13:17 was my favorite moment... the idea of Count Berenguer watching the rec! Sounds like something he would do!

[@micahbush5397]

3:41 "Frankly, after forcing us to kill two units, King Sancho had it coming." True pacifists know that an eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind.

[@alejandroromero6464]

New voice isn't bad but HD voice was so much better... "A splendid sight, now return to the task at hand,"

[@sprawn09]

There were no kills. Those two from the tournament were just wounded. They are safe and sound.

[@Haedrian]

They're just pining for the Fjords

[@jordinagel1184]

Exactly! Tournament deaths were very rare, after all

[@AndromedaPrima]

That is what he told himself every night denying the dried bones of those 2 innocent men which only followed their king's order and ended up slaughtered mercilessly :)

[@MrAllmightyCornholioz]

El Cid is a true follower of Christ in that he ordered his men to turn the other cheek whether Christian or Muslim.

[@sharilshahed6106]

Wiki says otherwise in one instance. Like he conquered a city and converted all the mosques into churches. Still he was one of the more noble characters historically.

[@MrAllmightyCornholioz]

@@sharilshahed6106 Damn I wonder how many monks he trained for that to happen!

[@maxmustsleep]

Great job some of these sounded quite tricky! I choose to believe that the two contestants in the beginning were just wounded like la hire and would return safely in the next scenario

[@felicianonatalini]

Nobody expects The Spanish Inquisition!

[@mamshmam]

Fastest break of pacifism yet? The dock-monk-transport ship trick was cool

[@sharilshahed6106]

gonna practice that. I only learned recently a monk could shift their focus or if caught up with a running enemy, the conversion still continues.

[@cdcdrr]

King Sancho is worse than Jigsaw. I'm looking forward to Montezuma. The Aztecs are infamous for -sacrificing- deleting their people.

[@lazerfischmann1703]

I legitimately look forward to these more than any other aoe2 content.

[@SurvivorMaster]

Whenever I see one of these in my reccomended it just makes my day right there!

[@bitcoinfandom]

Yay! I thought the next episodes is far away but happy to see it already!

[@holo1782]

you deserve way more followers. The commentary and quality is on point. keep up the good work. its rly interesting too watch even for me which isnt even playing aoe2 at the moment.

[@angrycabbage1988]

A big F for the 2 handed swordsman and the knight :'(

[@T-West]

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[@Cyprous]

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[@HaBBiSiFy]

"El Cid will fall to my blade!" Regards, two-handed swordman

[@AgenteLaLigaLombarda]

Amazing as always, the trick with the monks insta convertion was awesome!

[@MicrosoftNestleTea]

You wish to play DE version of El Cid? With DE Sancho? I will not alow that. However, if he wishes, I'm sure there's a mod in the Steam Workshop, T-West?

[@nbrocx4216]

I read this in (AoC) Sancho's voice. Truly epic. Here, have an upvote.

[@kristianlykke]

This channel is quality-wise on level with SOTL or T90!! Its crasy. MONTEZUMA next

[@maxmustsleep]

Absolutely! Really enjoy the content

[@CRuduxypegg]

Legend speaks of a comment T-West didn't like already.

[@lolaldanee2743]

I'm starting to love this series :) so creative, being a game devloper myself, it's just facinating how players can totally turn games on their head to create their own :)

[@W0lf7133]

Using a whole playthrough just for a dream? That's dedication!

[@MeanGuy969]

The way you did the fourth mission by converting transport ships and by destroying their docks were simply marvelous

[@TheMrGobelin]

Ahh too bad for the Two tournament guys, but i mean those were in a tournament right ? like both parties agreed to fight to the death, we could agree on that they were nessesary for El Cid to vow on pacifism afterwards, Superb video T-West ! (Are you going to do all the conquerors solo-battles? like in a compliation or something ?) Waiting on for the next one for more Pacifism !

[@T-West]

Will try to fill of the Battles of the Conqueors (not the FE ones) into a video.

[@TheRewasder97]

JA! Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is Pacifisim! And Distraction! I mean, our TWO chief weapons are Pacifisim and Distraction! And Wololo! ...Damm it! This is it, our chief weaponS are Pacifism, Distraction and Wololo! And an outstanding content creator!

[@sergioramirezbelliard493]

They're injured cause it was a friendly tournament, i believe they fainted from the exhausting fight instead of being killed and that's the resolve we have for pacifism lol

[@jefffinkbonner9551]

13:49 "Inquisition proves to be a valuable aide, as it yields fast conversions against 11th century gunpowder units." ... Please pour some out for the souls of any halfway-history buffs whose souls just died a lot right there.

[@billdewall6152]

lmao i didn't even think about how savagely ahistoric that sentence was.

[@existdarrus]

The pacifist series is unthinkable perfection

[@isaweesaw]

It actually is. One of my favourite ever series on AOE

[@HistoricalWeapons]

Note gunpowder exists in 11th century including firelances…just not in Europe yet

[@PolanaAnurag]

11:52 Nice Last Airbender reference by the way.

[@micahbush5397]

I have to say, I'm really enjoying this series. Not only is it entertaining, I'm learning a lot about the game mechanics. I never realized, for instance, that conversion times can carry over from one unit to another.

[@solace6633]

oh that last airbender reference was amazing. dam those purple fire troops!

[@ryankasch5650]

Great as always. El Cid 5 is one of the hardest scenarios for me. Last night used the info from your Genghis Khan video to get all the achievements for it, hopefully this will be enough to get through the fight with Berenger. It's currently the only scenario I don't have gold of the AoC scenarios.

[@generalhyde007]

Good job there man! Love the videos! Also, Thanks for the heart!

[@francis2051998]

Oooh I love the gunpowder in early 11 century. Who doesn't know that El Cid uses fire weapons in the times of the Reconquest?

[@alangivre2474]

I always love both the brilliant tactics and the humorous narratives.

[@davewelsh1733]

Montezuma campaign is going to be hard! These are the greatest videos.

[@muj9611]

I have been waiting for this for so long tysm and please continue the amazing work!!

[@gatisp6865]

You story telling is spot on, keep up the good work!

[@linusrengholt8496]

Happy to see the serie continue! Keep up the good work!

[@spdutahraptor777]

Kudos for not dodging the one campaign that screws with your concept at the very first minute of play

[@djenricomastermix]

holy shit that building->unit conversion trick is sick, i've noticed that like 10 years ago but forgot about it completely! very well played! :)

[@jiemileng7745]

I'm surprised more people haven't subscribed, this is some quality and difficult to do content

[@adnanhuzaifa6391]

wow lets go el cid i love this campaign

[@NoobNoOne1]

I am impressed by both the gameplay and the story telling. Great series

[@Age3111]

This was a great video again. It really brightened my day :)

[@seejay9467]

I demand a trial by...... Pacifism!

[@T-West]

Trial by Baltic.

[@balajiramanan2429]

I love it how you make it seem so easy

[@ecastrobonilla]

I definitely was not expecting this series to continue so soon, I do believe this is like seeing the god returning to mount Olympus. Btw really pumped, Montezuma is my favorite campaign in all of AoE.

[@Lynxien]

YESSS THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR BABY!

[@nicolasdugre2130]

great vid again twest cant wait for next episode

[@jandemetz7973]

Love these ones

[@RoshanLakmalTinTin]

My Hero is back THE GOD OF PACIFISM . Thank you very much and please keep them coming.

[@Craken_401]

You could capture the monastery at the first mission and make two monks because you have 200 gold no? Equally is a good video and I enjoyed every second, good job!

[@T-West]

You start in the Feudal Age, so no training Monks.

[@Craken_401]

@@T-West I didnt see that, I knew it couldn't be done because if you haven't done it, it's for something

[@FloosWorld_AoE]

I remember how ridiculously difficult "Reconquista" was in comparison to "King of Valencia"

[@IschmarVI]

king of valencia is honestly not that difficult. It feels intimidating, yes but berenguer is lacking a LOT of blacksmith upgrades, never gets heresy or faith and is pretty weak to both monks and conqs - especially monks. Those bombard towers are annoying tho

[@michaeltaylor8698]

I literally stopped the game I was playing when I got the notification for this video on my phone! Entertaining as always! I'm surprised you didn't use the missionaries more, since their increased mobility seemed to address the monk's biggest weakness, though I guess monks have greater range. Also, depending on the scenario, I don't think you always need to delete castles immediately, getting conscription, trebs and unique techs is really useful and you shouldn't have to worry too much about the castles killing anyone if you don't pick up the extra range techs and the castle itself is located at the back of your base.

[@T-West]

The extra range of Monks is just extremely important. The one use I did find for Missionaries is converting Trebs and Rams, since they need to be adjacent to them and the range doesn't matter.

[@michaeltaylor8698]

@@T-West Fair enough, though I imagine being able to dance missionaries back and forth avoiding bombard cannon fire would have come in handy in The Lion and the Demon ;)

[@germanbustamante146]

Excellent content, keep up the great work

[@woodrew5415]

I can't imagine how many hours that took how many times you had to restart a mission after a unit accidentally killed an enemy. Well done, definitely worth a subscribe

[@kristianlykke]

Amazing as always ! :D

[@lGranAdventures1]

El cid: gets disgusted for having to kill two units in a tournament Also el cid: obliterates his whole army in the name of pacifism

[@IsmaelPortaCabrera]

Monty phyton and avatar references in an AoE video... very peacefully

[@skevball2792]

I love these videos it’s such an interesting concept keep them up 😊

[@LtCaswell]

I love these pacifist runs. Not just because I love this game and it's fascinating to watch you doing the challenge, but also because monks play such a big part in the tactics! I love monks in any form, and they're my favourite unit in AoE2

[@kartiksaraf4676]

Give this man a medal

[@CoffeePotato]

These are dang good stuff

[@ChiekChiek]

Waaait I missed this wonderful video.

[@mister420blazeit2]

it seems that when thanos said he's inevitable, so was those 2 deaths in this campaign... i loiikee thoiss(4)

[@nietbasxoudenh3772]

this is the greatest way to finish AEO 2 i love your vidéo

[@Hamanuna]

Aaahh El Cid....one of my favorite campaigns

[@roachtheable]

This series is amazing!

[@agustinclement4348]

This series is soo nice, keep it up!

[@jatei1735]

That were not kills in the first Szenario, that were just training and those to guys returned happily back to their families after. But when i think about it, you could have enforced pacifism more with the missionaries, as they are more unexpected than the spanish inquisition.

[@emceesquared2]

Great content so creative!! Keep it up!!

[@axb6061]

Aw man love the Mel brooks and monthly python references

[@sherifhesham3733]

Literally more consistent that SoTL.

[@dontspikemydrink9382]

what does this mean

[@mr2octavio]

NO ONE EXPECTS THE PACIFIST INQUISITION

[@Epic-storychannel]

As always a pleasure

[@tvremote9394]

5:27 yo what the hell, i wasn't expecting that!

[@T-West]

It still surprises me every time!

[@Xrisus94]

I didn't expect the Spanish inquisition. In the 2nd cenario.

[@hallamhal]

King Sancho was my favourite voice acting in AOC, and there was a lot of competition for that!

[@T-West]

Let the tournament begin!

[@mafiousbj]

I actually like how you portrayed Alphonso as the good guy in your pacifist AoE2 universe (ar first at least, the guy is just irredeemable even by pacifist standards)

[@sharishth]

Ngl, Been waiting for this since Barbarossa pacifism.

[@hugovanpayns9557]

I liked immediately cuz of the thumbnail.

[@whiteeagleforce2.040]

Believe me when i say your video's thumbnail is a legendary piece of art 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@restituororbis8988]

4:23 I, El Cid, have a dream.

[@sharilshahed6106]

wrong civ, but I'd love to see this meme'd in Sforza campaign.

[@brendanhart517]

That's an interesting trigger about removing the monks and depending on the horse el cid for the victory condition. Also did not know you could go the back way into the base and it was wide open lol. Interesting conditions on the other scenarios, I never bothered with the transports so I didn't know they had that impact.

[@T-West]

Oh, I just deleted some of the units and buildings for King Sancho so I could see what happens when heading back. There are indeed several Castles and an army defending the tournament grounds.

[@brendanhart517]

T-West i meant alfonso had a hole in his base, but really like the effort that goes into these and looking forward to montezuma

[@ersinculdur4401]

You are a aoe2 genius.. thanks for this beatiful videos..

[@Sam-bn5bb]

Wow the voice acting on The Imam sounds like an American guy doing a bad accent.

[@tinkywinky1238]

The Prithviraj campaign is basically listening to Apu and his extended family for 6 scenarios.

[@kurohhoku6281]

I thought he was making the voice himself for a kind of joke and i realised it was the game's voice....

[@Wehdeo]

It also sounds like it was recorded at the voice actor's house instead of a studio

[@DinoMan_6]

Your narration is pretty good.

[@chechezzzz]

Can't believe that the game has a pacifist "Campaign". Props to you for these smart and intuative videos man. Your story lines are now Canon. Probably those 2 kills Turned el Cid pacifist who knows... 🇦🇼🇦🇼🇦🇼

[@oscarrich1221]

I wonder what the god of war in the Montezuma campaign will think of T-Wests pacifism?

[@vandieyahya1024]

What is surprising from this T West guy is that not only he do a pacifist/least kills run, but he also does all of that (along with Joan and Barbarossa campaign) in Hard difficulty this entire time! This guy need more attention more than what he get now, for all these achievement he gets!