Twilight Saga: ECLIPSE is the WORST - Team Jacob is cancelled

[@AmandaTheJedi]

Even if this one's the worst... I still love it😎

[@trinaq]

Me too, it serves as a guilty pleasure of mine! 😉

[@seraphim-kpopdreamcorpsear5255]

Every thirteen year old White girl likes Twilight.

[@murrenkelly3866]

Twilight will always be the best background movies for painting nails or cleaning the house

[@Aalisrocklist]

I wish there was something like Audible, but with people reading the books in a sarcastically dramatic way

[@slianyong7550]

@@Aalisrocklist I might listen to that

[@katburgess5926]

No, please, keep talking about Alice she's the best part.

[@trinaq]

Totally, Alice is the BEST part of this entire franchise, and she's FAR more compelling than Bella EVER was!

[@thomasraines1396]

It reminds of the trailer for “Legend of The Guardians: The Owls of Ga’Hoole” where one of the characters proclaims “No keep going this is the best part!”

[@thomasraines1396]

@@trinaq a slab of drying cement is more compelling then Bella ever will be.

[@Dreigonix]

Alice unironically best girl.

[@precious2060]

She's the only reason why I even bother reading through all of the books.

[@somestrangecircus5505]

The Cullens: We had a birthday party for one person and it almost ended with that person getting killed! Also the Cullens: Let's have a graduation party for a very large crowd of teenagers, it'll probably be fine

[@greeneyelove2003]

LOL. I know, right? Made no sense.

[@_LunaTheBlackCat_]

Alice was probably like: but party is fun! :o

[@UchihaKat]

To be fair, Bella is apparently like. Extra-tasty to all vampires, so her alone is worse... I guess?

[@zelamorre1126]

"I saw this thing about abusive teenage relationships, and I thought I'd like to try that out with you!" - Jacob in Eclipse.

[@Mieczyslaw_Mason]

you my dude(dudette)? deserve a medal.

[@saanasalonen8684]

lmao good comment!

[@unlimon6382]

@@Mieczyslaw_Mason dudette is my new favourite English word

[@Mieczyslaw_Mason]

@@unlimon6382 glad to hear that! :D

[@justastudent1423]

@@Mieczyslaw_Mason dudette has been added to my vocabulary

[@toxicsugarart2103]

Rip in pieces @ Jacob’s character development 🙏

[@rx500android]

So true😭😭

[@mikasadeh4063]

Rest in pieces in pieces 😔💔

[@mikasadeh4063]

Wait

[@mikasadeh4063]

Rest In Peace in pieces*

[@AmandaTheJedi]

It died in New Moon and was nuked in Eclipse

[@sassysnape3738]

I will never get over the fact that Leah had a more interesting plot than Bella but instead either gets trashed or stays in the background

[@morganyoung3557]

Honestly, Leah, Alice, and Rosalie are just more interesting than Bella could ever dream of being.

[@TheFourthWinchester]

Let me tell you from the perspective of straight guys. Literally every guy who watched Twilight ADORED Bella. They wanted a Bella of their own. Mainly cuz Kristen Stewart is freaking hot. This was before the fangirls and toxic people made it lame for anyone else to love Twilight movies.

[@hawkins347]

@@TheFourthWinchester So what you're saying is... guys like chicks that are all looks and no personality. All right.

[@TheFourthWinchester]

@@hawkins347 Should have given a toxic alert.

[@Author.Noelle.Alexandria]

Fret not! Meyer is working in two more Twilight retellings, from Renesme’s POV...and Leah’s. How badly will she butcher the tribe this time?

[@theotherghostgirl337]

Honestly I don’t care if Edward and Bella are technically the same age mentally, if you don’t see your partner as your equal in the relationship, you probably shouldn’t be dating

[@SonicMegaKing]

To be fair to Edward, he's from a time when partners weren't equals and such a concept was more at the whim of the husband than a required consideration.

[@RobertMorgan]

That's problematic. I want a partner who is not my equal, that has something to offer I can't do myself. For example, man and a woman date, they're not equal, because he can't get pregnant. It really does come down to being as simple as that. I guess a man dating a man would be equals lol. Don't worry, they're making advancements in the synthetic womb all the time. Before long men will be able to have children without women and we'll have real, true equality. Not so great for women though to lose their advantage.

[@ghostnebula8805]

@@RobertMorgan ?!

[@TheEmmakathryn]

@@RobertMorgan equality doesn't mean.. able to do all the same things....

[@KCDay-eu1iq]

@@RobertMorgan she means that see each other as equals, meaning one is not considered better than the other. Bella puts Edward on a pedestal and thinks she is inferior, that is not how a good relationship works.

[@notaccessible3741]

I’m rewriting Twilight. They ruined Charlie, that’s the final straw. - Y’all are getting therapy, so much therapy - Jacob you asshole - Team Alice let’s go - Edward you asshole - Bella shall no longer be like a plain half cooked pasta - That imprinting thing, that’s gotta go - I wish you all a very happy therapy Yahoo let’s do this

[@naluzoniro]

alternatively, you could get rid of Bella altogether, make Edward and Jacob better characters and better people, and give them a tragic Romeo-and-Juliet-style forbidden gay love story x) And yeah, therapy, SO MUCH THERAPY

[@skylarjohnson7779]

or keep the imprinting but explore it's horror movie potential.

[@opiateutopia]

Great idea. I'll go write the tragic horror version inspired by Dominic Noble's review where love isn't actually love and Bella gets eaten at the end

[@notaccessible3741]

If there’s no Bella there’s no Charlie and I simply refuse to let that happen

[@StoryGirl83]

Or imprinting on someone under age means that you have to stay out of their life until they out of their life and if you don’t, you will be executed as a predator. And even once they are an adult, it is 100% their choice. Or you know you just straight up cannot imprint until both parties are adults.

[@breezy3392]

One thing (out of many) that really gets me in this is that after Rosalie pours her heart out about why she thinks Bella shouldn't choose to be a vampire, Bella doesn't take one single second to think through anything Rosalie has said. I'm not even saying that she should change her mind, but just...think about it a little. The only thing Bella takes from that conversation is that Tanya was into Edward. That is the only detail that has any impact on her

[@Author.Noelle.Alexandria]

Because it means another woman is “competition,” and Bella only cares about one thing: Bella.

[@eveelima1]

I mean, I get Bella. I would understand Rosalie's point of view but would never be able to relate to it because I never ever ever want children and really all I want is to be with the love of my life forever, that's pretty much how Bella feels at that point. Having a family of her own and living a human life to its fullest was Rosalie's dream from the beginning, so obviously it's important to her. But Bella never cared for that (okay she changed her mind when she found herself pregnant, but back then it meant little to her). I would've just brushed it off too.

[@Author.Noelle.Alexandria]

@@eveelima1 Something Bella could have taken from that, and should have, is that a life in hiding, having to move all the time, prevents them from getting to have many of the experiences of life that come with getting older. Even though they are technically aging just because that’s how time works, they’ll never be able to fit in with the middle-aged or older experiences that even people without kids have.

[@Xehanort10]

Bella: Women other than me fancied Edward? ARGHHHHHH I'm gonna kill them. HE'S MINE. That's how obsessed with him she is. She's shallow and doesn't care about being turned as long as she doesn't get old. Rosalie: I was turned against my will after already going through being raped and only because the vampire who turned me only wanted me to marry his adopted son. Bella: I just wanna be pretty forever.

[@rituparnadebnath5850]

@@Xehanort10 Did you even read the books?

[@leah_organa]

Oh my god, I was always Team Jasper as a teen because Edward obviously wasn‘t depressed and brooding enough for me and I think I already got that Jacob was an abusive peace of shit, but back then, as a 14 year old girl from Europe, I did not know what it meant that Jasper was part of the mothereffing confederate army?!?! Why did Stephenie do that?

[@briankaslewicz6130]

Could've been an easy fix to be the Union army but no

[@ErklaerMirDieWelt]

Tbf, it's not as if you chose your team in the civil war. It was pretty much tied to where you lived. So while you can criticize the Confederates as a whole, the individual soldiers either didn't have a choice or didn't know better.

[@Melissa-sx9vh]

@@briankaslewicz6130 Jasper could have fought in any other war, WWI, WWII, Cold War, a naval war (vampire pirates!)... Hell even for another country, to throw in some diversity!

[@emmaatkinson7379]

Huh. Wonder why a white, conservative middle aged Mormon lady who scattered pro-life and abuse-as-love rhetoric through her novel that had no developed BIPOC characters (and disrespected the hell out of the native tribes she used purely for aesthetic).. may not have minded a Confederate soldier background. What could possibly have been the reason.

[@naluzoniro]

@@emmaatkinson7379 hmmmmmmmmmmm interesting theory

[@shortedhalo]

“Imprinting on children...in the real world that’s what we call GROOMING!” Absolutely! This needs to be said!

[@haku8135]

He can shapeshift into a GIANT FUR COVERED WOLF! It's LITERALLY just spite he's cuddling with her in front of Edward as a shirtless human.

[@isadora6092]

to be fair, they were inside a smol tent so having a giant fur wolf wouldnt work out...

[@haku8135]

@@isadora6092 giant furry wolf is superior to a human.

[@yesimsureienteredmynamecorrect]

The character assassination of Jacob was bad but the way the movies did it to Rosalie is not mentioned enough. I loved her in the books.

[@Melissa-sx9vh]

Yes! In the movies her entire personality is "I hate Bella and I'm pretty" what a way to ruin an interesting character...

[@athenarocks7657]

Characters like Rosalie and Leah make me so confused. Like, they’re so interesting that idk if Stephanie is good at writing sometimes and gets distracted or bad at writing and stumbles her way into a few gems.

[@Melissa-sx9vh]

@@athenarocks7657 Same! And the birth scene is some good horror too! So idk if she is a good writer or an accidental one.

[@elizabethashley42]

@@athenarocks7657 I think she's a bad writer with good ideas that she doesn't know how to flesh out. So she writes a boring romance with flat characters and has ideas about interesting characters, but doesn't do more than an aside or backstory for them, and then when she does try to write more about them she wrecks them with bad writing and a failure to understand how people work.

[@QueenBoudicca125]

Thank you so much for mentioning the Wuthering Heights effect on teen romance. I HATED that book. It's misrepresented as romance so often, that I worry for people and what they think a healthy relationship looks like.

[@AnnaAmber6]

I always thought that it was incredibly selfish of Jacob to keep pursuing Bella once imprinting was introduced. He admits that he hasn't imprinted on her, which meant that his soulmate was still out there somewhere. He has no idea that it will be Bella's future child. So who's to say that even if she did choose him over Edward, that Jacob wouldn't then imprint on another person somewhere down the line. He's seen the hurt that that exact situation caused Leah, why would he want to inflict that on Bella?

[@desaririaz1302]

I personally don’t agree with this take because I really don’t think it’s fair to call Jacob selfish for pursuing the relationship because they thought imprinting was a rare it doesn’t happen to all werewolves just some so why should Jacob have to put his feelings on hold and never ever pursue anyone or any relationship just for the possibility that he MIGHT imprint in the future like it’s not a sure thing so to never pursue or have a relationship for something that might not even happen is just kinda messed up to say that’s selfish of him but also if demon spawn was never born then Jacob never would have imprinted

[@Sly-Moose]

Dude just wanted to smash and dash 🙄

[@divinelangene6813]

​@@Sly-Moose😂😂😂😂

[@JKerr97]

I really hope that we will have a "fantasy-vampire-Era" in the 20's with an non toxic relationships and much diversity.

[@glimmerhutcherson139]

I'm a sucker for non-white vampires so YES PLEASE

[@crybabycasper]

I'm actually planning on writing a vampire book with a lot of POC characters and two of my characters are gay and inlove and another is asexual. I love them all so much 😭

[@bioticjedi3864]

Or proper fantasy/supernatural stuff where everyone isnt an oversexed Mary sue obsessed with love and not focusing on the supernatural elements

[@morganyoung3557]

@@crybabycasper I would actually read that, it sounds very interesting.

[@skylar7720]

I just need more vampire content. I am starving

[@Dagnylokibarn]

I’ve always been team jasper because his arc most closely follows that of the hero’s journey through hades. Being misaligned/in the confederate army; then becoming a vampire; the karmic hell of feeling the emotions of those he turned/fed from; the redemption moment of protecting Peter/Charlotte (not sure I remember their names right); killing Maria and living in Limbo; the message of hope from the maiden figure (Alice); the acceptance and healing from a righteous man (Carlisle); and the final battle which he wins not with the violence that led him to becoming a vampire, but the friends he has gathered over the years by becoming a redeemed man. I also hold him as the root of all my good hearted villain crushing. Wouldn’t it be amazing if I could be the Alice to Loki’s Jasper, etc. but their relationship actually works because he began to take responsibility for himself and choose good deeds and a righteous heart on his own 💜💜💜💜 This is the end of my essay on why Jacob sucks, Edward needs to act like he’s a hundred and not 17 and Alice is the Goddess figure in jaspers heart the end.

[@santaclara6112]

I love this! A lot of people recoil at the fact that Jasper was a Confederate soldier, but I think it could make for a beautiful story about redemption. You pretty much outlined what I was thinking!

[@Ivosferatus]

And this whole "Twilight" thing started with a (wet) dream...

[@maralantschner]

I love ur pb:)

[@m.4645]

Actually that explains A LOT

[@thomasraines1396]

In the words of a demon from Little Nicky “Gross!”

[@mercedesbenz6657]

Really?, what the Fuck!...

[@firefly5934]

@@mercedesbenz6657 Yeah, Twilight did come a dream that showed the meadow scene in the first book.

[@taquitotacote3184]

"Doesn't he own a shirt?" My god his smirk. He must've loved that line.

[@j445m1n3]

Lemme say it again Team Alice

[@pixelapocrypha]

I remember being so mad at Charlie during the scene after the forced kiss. Like, I already have dad issues myself having two craps ones, and I actually was liking Charlie and then he was all down for assault just because he hates Edward. I choose to believe that scene doesn't exist. We just cut straight to Edward's reaction. Charlie was, uh, at work. Yeah. That's it.

[@ShyRyder]

I love team Alice since I first watched Twilight. Her and Jasper were my bi awakening. They were, along with the wolves were the only reason I watched the series.

[@DarkLightHuntress]

25:44 Thanks for the PSA, Amanda. Speaking from personal experience, that type of manipulation is quite scarring if done by someone you care for deeply. I fear the worst part about this series of books and films is that some girls would pursue people like Jacob or Edward and romanticize those kinds of relationships.

[@aleyta.a5992]

The entirety of Eclipse was just me screaming "nice guy alert!!!" at everything Jacob does.... Still love the movie, simply for the fact Victoria get's her head ripped of, finally

[@haemilee8875]

smeyer really just assassinated jacobs charcter after new moon - he goes from sunny sunshine boy to brooding sexual assault-er, potentially playing into some really racist stereotypes about native men. Also the fact that imprinting takes away all free will and basically shackles both parties into some fucked up semblance of love is so fucked up and how did she thik this was a good idea

[@juliacollin98]

”The short life of bree tanner” is actually pretty good, very nice to discover other bits and pieces of the world without the melodrama 😊

[@maxrona137]

"No isn't binding, but a ring is" hit me to my core

[@eve3p0]

YES, I just re read the whole series and OH BOY did I forget how bad eclipse was. I literally went through your videos to see if you'd talked about it yet. Im so PUMPED to watch.

[@storkboi]

what's so frustrating is that Heathcliff and Cathy in Wuthering Heights are SUPPOSED to be TOXIC... like they are written to be terrible, terrible people on purpose. The whole second half of the book is all the characters' children trying to grow up and confront their own identities in the wake of their parents' shitty behaviors of the past. but people just looove that toxic drama in the beginning and ignore the "healing process" part of the book where some of the next gen of characters have to try to become psychologically healthy (and some of them are still shitty too). The second half purposefully mirrors the first half but is about confrontation of bad behaviors, growth, renewal, etc

[@storkboi]

/rant about wuthering heights (sorry everybody this was off topic this is my life as a librarian it's what i do. let me live)

[@katatonic3450]

It doesn’t matter what time it is, when I see a notification from this channel I click

[@Tossboi]

“You’re 18 sweetie , and life goes on... AND ALICE IS RIGHT THERE” Where’s the lie tho? I’m totally gay for Alice ✊

[@katb6112]

Amanda’s relationship advice is never wrong

[@srfrid]

I’m going to be honest, I never cared about anything Twilight. I watch your twilight videos for the excitement and entertainment that you bring when talking about it. I’m still incapable of naming any twilight character outside of the main 3 and Alice. Regardless, we need more twilight videos! They’re so enjoyable to watch!

[@maddysue3037]

The second short life of Bree tanner is actually pretty good and I cried so hard in it

[@jomnix]

Why Stephanie killed her? :-(

[@WTFM]

Simple answer: they hadn’t read far enough into the books yet xD

[@alphamale7388]

Amanda: are you team Jacob or team Jacob? Me:...I've been radicalized, I'm team Alice!

[@jellogirl2010]

I... forgot Jasper was a soldier in the confederate army. But I've always wanted a book about how Jasper and Alice met and got together... but I also don't want Stephanie Myer to write it.

[@isabellaliev2810]

So, till this year, I had never watched Twilight. A month ago I said jokingly that if I failed my university's admission exam, i would watch the entire saga. A week before the exams, I watched all 5 movies in one night. (I still passed the exams, but now I can't unsee Twilight) So I thought why not rewatch your Twilight videos, and lucky me you uploaded this one :D

[@SuperWolfman9]

29:30 Oh yes, it did at that, and Leah x Bella are unironically great together - 2 girls who have been fucked over by dudes (though I do feel for Sam, he had no choice with the imprinting thing) who decided 'fuck it! let's be gay!'. It's the wolf equivalent of Alice x Bella.

[@made-line7627]

Rosalie had way more control as a newborn than Bella. She legit resisted drinking blood even though she had several dying and dead people right in front of her - that she'd already murdered, and good riddance - and she _still_ fought what would have been an immense thirst for blood. Bella resisted the scent of blood from a rockclimber that she held no ill will toward, who had a scratch on his knee. Damn, Rosalie.

[@Scatscar1985]

2:20 prompts the question: IS there an area where Stephenie Meyer's writing excels?

[@vickylopez3635]

When I was like 13 years old that was the first time I saw braking dawn part one without even know what the twilight saga was and then I become in one of those crazy fans who wrote fanfiction, team Edward forever "bc he's so cute and I love him" AND GET MAD when my brother says "that not a vampire, it's not even scary. He shine. SHINE. He's a fairy, that's what it is". And here we are years later and the only thing I can say without laughing is: this is a comedy series with so many issues and all of them need therapy for get healthy relationships.

[@DrawciaGleam02]

I lol'ed at your brother calling Edward a fairy....

[@vickylopez3635]

@@DrawciaGleam02 I think his reference was for Tinkerbell xd

[@redreaper2752]

Is Bella stabbing her self in the shoulder a Mandela Effect? I could have sworn that she never actually cuts herself.

[@mariem8705]

Stephanie Meyer is the ultimate one to blame for her wanting to be the star of her own book. Even Robert thought Stephanie wanted to be Bella. I am team Jacob for new moon but mrs. Meyers straight up ruined him!

[@Othello484]

I have a good friend who tried to break up with his girlfriend and she did the "I'm going to kill myself if you leave me thing." Anyway, they got married had children, and this is when I met him. And he was miserable. She has Borderline Personality Disorder and every day is worse than the last. The moral of the story is to listen to Amanda!

[@sophitiaofhyrule]

Remember when people prefered Jacob because he was less abusive than Edward? How times have changed...

[@angryhobbit2020]

Smeyer did my boy Jacob SO dirty!!!! Like, why introduce him as a love interest if you're really going to make him so bad!!!! I feel like the captain of a sinking ship that is Team Jacob :(

[@saddlerrye6725]

Don't be sad, there's always fanfiction!!

[@ForeverRememberable]

You should definitely read The Short Second Life of Bred Tanner, it's pretty good. Also it mentions the Volturi and Riley more in it so if you read that book none of that is a surprise.

[@Shmaples]

I was team Jacob as a kid just because I thought Edward was super boring and Jacob seemed like a guy you could have fun with.. BUT I couldn't believe what I was reading when I reread the series as an adult... Jacob is CONSTANTLY being told no and pushing and pushing and smirking and trying to kiss her and bleh. Hes awful. They both are. So now I'm team no one. Not even Bella because she also sucks.

[@hayleyknighten2416]

One thing I love about the franchise is that they cast actual Native Americans as the Quileutes. There were some big names like the gal from high school musical that wanted to be in the movie but they went with relatively unknown but talented native actors. I met the gal that played Leah and she was really great.

[@lolsavanna]

Amanda please stop bringing up Alice romantic subtext before I am forced to write Bella/Alice fan fiction. I beg you

[@PokeJoltz]

TO ADD ON TO THE 25:28 MARK.. If someone you care about wants to unalive themself especially in a way that makes you feel guilty or they try to blame it on you, there is something else going on. Whether they feel alone aside from you or have other stressful situations outside of your relationship it is NOT YOUR FAULT. All you can really do at that point is call a national s hotline for them or in drastic cases the police for a welfare check. Best case scenario they get the help they need and the worst they are upset with you but if it gets to this point chances are they already were. Every situation is different but just know you are not obligated to fix anyone. You are not their doctor or therapist, the most you can do is be there for them while setting healthy boundaries. If they cross that or force you/threaten/guilt you into anything more than it is on them. They are not evil, they just need help that you cannot give and that is okay. Stay safe.

[@kalevstheworld]

I'm not even ashamed for how much I've been anticipating this video

[@lilicole7301]

Side note: if someone threatens suicide while you’re in a relationship with them call the police and no longer be with them. Make sure they are hospitalized first though because there is always a chance they will go through with it. I have borderline personality disorder and major depressive disorder. When I told my ex-boyfriend the thought of leaving made me want to die it was because I grew up in an abusive household and didn’t know how to control my emotions. I ended up overdosing and almost dying. You should never threaten suicide to manipulate people’s emotions but if someone does make sure they at least get some kind of help before you step away.

[@elizabethashley42]

I was nominally Team Jacob solely because the first three quarters of New Moon were the only part of the entire book series that I actually liked. He wasn't perfect even in New Moon but he was a believable teenager and Bella was happy hanging out with him after moping all the way through the first book. I was so freaking upset over his character assassination in Eclipse and then when Meyer managed to make EVEN WORSE decisions for him in Breaking Dawn I just about threw up. I wanted to take New Moon Jacob away from Meyer and let him live a happy life in a better novel. Today I'm no longer Team Jacob, I'm 💯 Team Alice.

[@fandomchatfabi75]

Since u mentioned it, in my opinion, The Second Life of Bree Tanner was the only part of twilight I genuinely liked. Even though it was short, the romance between Bree and Diego was super cute and u can tell there's actual chemistry between them. They both deserved better 🥺🥺🥺

[@ethemie]

I used to love these books back when I was a teenager and starting this video I realized I had absolutely no memory of what happened in Eclipse. Apparently my brain did me a favour.

[@omqvin]

i will never understand why stephenie didn’t make any of the ‘main’ characters to die from the cullens or at least one of the wolves since there were two opportunities to die

[@jonahfalcon1970]

"How was ANYONE Team Jacob!?" Hot bod.

[@KCDay-eu1iq]

That tan skin is way sexier than pasty white...that's why I married a Native American ^-^ (before Twilight came out)

[@CeliMe007]

I hate this book because it seems like the author went out of her way to make Jacob unlikeable because Jacob became the fan favorite during Twilight and New Moon.

[@raspuhberry]

It has always bothered me that Bella wearing just a flannel in the snow. No jacket, hat, mittens, or anything remotely insulating.

[@AncelDeLambert]

Wait, the werewolf thing is only happening because the Cullins are "back"? My friend group was so confused why this tribe with this power had no rituals to control their kids when this ability set in, MAN the second movie should have explained that!

[@PolliitoAle]

25:27 good thing to remind everyone! When we were 17 my best friend was dating this guy (who ended up being a mentally and physically abusive piece of shit but I didn't know that until almost 7 years later.......) for a while and I HATED him, because he was overbearing and super jealous, and he would call her when she was spending time with me and would make her cry. Now, this was back in 2010 when and we were teens so I wasn't super aware about how manipulation and abusive behaviour worked, I just knew "heeeey this guy makes my best friend cry a little too much, I don't like it" and actively tried to talk her into ending things with him. Now, the relationship was a "long" distance one, because he lived a city over and would visit ALL THE TIME; GOD I HATED HIM, but that meant for me that I had the upper hand when it came to talking her into something. Way more time with her, plus a decade of friendship. Thing is, she finally ends things with him and he basically starts harassing and stalking her. And then he pulled that. The "if you don't come back with me I'll kill myself" and my friend was in fucking tears, freaking out about it. Now, it might be that I'm a stone cold bitch, but I just told her "let him, his life is not your responsibility" and I would do my best to keep this statement in her mind. Now, did I know this was only a manipulative tactic? Nope. Did I ever believe there was a possibility, however small, that the guy might actually kill himself??? YEs. Yep, I did believe the guy might go through with it and I did not give a shit. He made my friend cry.

[@bekahsparrows]

I remember when I was young and reading this series for the first time and I was Team Jacob for Twilight and New Moon, but Eclipse devastated me so much with how the character development for Jacob went that I got rid of ALL my Team Jacob merch and threw the book multiple times while reading it.

[@MF-oj6pi]

Amanda omg! Read it! It’s the only twilight I own 3 copies of. AND ITS NOT EVEN A TWILIGHT NOVEL!! Plus, no Jacob!

[@coralfang12587]

GOSH, THEY DID CHEER AT THE "HOTTER THAN YOU" LINE it was so cringe, but also the most wholesome adorable thing ever lol

[@jacjac2010]

The only thing I enjoyed about Eclipse is Jasper's story and how we became a vampire and joined the Cullens. Other than that, Jacob is super controlling and possessive, even more so than Edward ever was.

[@HurricaneDDragon]

The Twilight Saga as written by Amanda The Jedi: Bella x Alice Edward x Jasper Rosalee x Esme Carlisle x Emmet Jacob x NO ONE

[@Scatscar1985]

"a wandering transformer..." Dreams of a "Twilight"/"Transformers" crossover...

[@WitchyCharlie]

“I BET they’re capable! I’m sorry I’ll stop..” Please don’t! 🤣

[@marzipan7755]

Love the Tsunomon and Gabumon plushes

[@Ryotaiku]

I remember during the production of these movies a lot of people joked about how Kristen Stewart was completely emotionless in all of her celebrity pictures. I just did a Google search for her again and she looks a lot happier in her more recent photos. Making these movies must've drained the life out of everybody involved.

[@ChakiOida]

Ok before even watching the vid: I was Team Jacob with the minimalest investment in Twilight because Werewolf > Vampire. Period.

[@erintoney7137]

Full disclosure: I was only Team Jacob from the movies. I never read the books. Thank the lord for that too. Yikes.

[@AugustSideling]

Bella clearly never read Charlotte Bronte's forward to WH when she edited and re-published it; the one where she says that Heathcliff's love for Cathy is not a redeeming quality because its entirely selfish

[@bella_quinn_7724]

This one was my favorite only because you get more back story into the lore and honestly just the chapter about Rosalie is enough of that. Also, as someone who was team Jacob in new moon, I hated what Stephanie did to that good boy. 🥲

[@katarinamonkova114]

I read somewhere that Rosalie intentionally created this "bland" persona and would always think about superficial things around him so Edward doesn't actually read her mind and leaves her alone and I love this idea.

[@jenniferwilson9650]

I hate to admit that I read the books but, my sister was obsessed and I'll read whatever I can get my hands on when I'm bored. So, I totally agree. I do think Rosalie actually hung onto her humanity more than the others. That's why she was such a raging bitch. She wanted what they had so, shut herself down. She knew, as a vampire that her anger could lead to destruction. I feel like whole stories could have been written about the better characters in these series. I was also 90% sure Stephanie Meyer was a 12yr old girl who had no clue how to write. Tbh, the books are terrible.

[@evelynharber6077]

@@jenniferwilson9650 Okay you didn't like the books but an awful lot did and do! It was written from a teen girls perspective so that is why it is as it is. Robert Pattinson has said that to him the books are actually Stephanie Meyers dream sexual fantasy and reading them one can understand that. At least someone somewhere thought them worth printing and then filming so they can't be that bad, wouldn't you agree?!

[@misstweetypie1]

@@evelynharber6077 yes, someone did think them worth it, from a monetary perspective, but not from a quality perspective.

[@AK-fr5zv]

@@evelynharber6077 A potential for income is not the same as quality.

[@evelynharber6077]

@@AK-fr5zv I do not think the readers are concerned about the literary standards as much as an enjoyable story. As said this book fulfills the requirements needed to entice young teens to read and mature women to enjoy. I truly believe authors write because of a need to tell a story more than for financial gain! Stephanie Meyer wrote because she had a story, a dream, that needed to be put to paper never seeing its earning potential. What she obtained is a very rare gift rarely seen in the literary world so don't squash this rare gift given to so few. J.K. Rowlings also had the need and look what it gave to her. Both ladies are unique and what happened was unique in the literary world I believe.

[@VictoreFloris]

My father, who read the books when they came out, when he was in his 30s, because his little sister, my aunt who was around 16 at the time said she read them and thought they where bad has always said that he’s “Team everyone gets therapy”

[@rachaelknudsen8801]

I read them all as they were released and love them. And by love them, I mean I think all the characters need intensive therapy.

[@qwizzler]

@@marieavril9470 true its best girls don't read at all so they aren't exposed to anything that might scare them.

[@a.p907]

I am also team everyone gets therapy

[@christinaify]

One of the most baffling bits of the Twilight series is that basically every vampire, every single one, has a much more interesting potential story than Bella and Edward.

[@onelovelylilidiot4959]

I have a theory that because so little time was put into properly fleshing out the other characters’ stories that Stephanie didn’t have the chance to wreck them the same way she did with the main plot. Though ive never read Twilight so I may be entirely wrong on that

[@excessivelyfangirlingbookw3339]

@@onelovelylilidiot4959 I read them and... yeah, that’s about it. There are several characters introduced that get little to no development and some like Alice, Jasper or Rosalie have little more than a glimpse into their backstory. So there’s much implication without actual facts - the perfect base for hundreds of thousands of fanfics ^^

[@catfan913]

probably because edward is too perfect to have any complexity

[@cultureandhistorynerd6739]

@Booper Dooper ngl true-- his backstory basically involved him as a teenager that nearly died of the Spanish Flu and was turned into a vampire to save his life, some time after that he began killing those he deemed to be "monsters" and fed on their blood instead of any "innocents". He still felt like total crap after taking so many lives in order to sustain himself and tries to justify his actions, though he still ends up labelling himself as a "monster" too.

[@Hollyberrystreats]

Or how those backstories make it even more implausible that they'd just willingly be high school students forever. I get trying to stay incognito, but I think boredom would win over self-preservation eventually.

[@elderlybrunch4169]

*Jacob and Edward arguing* Bella: can you just be Jacob, and you just be Edward, and I'm Bella? Jacob: but I AM a werewolf, and he IS a vampire. Bella: And I'M a Virgo! The best line in Eclipse

[@morgueish]

It's been so long since I've read the books I have no idea if this is real or not

[@elderlybrunch4169]

@morgueish it's 100% real I promise 🤣🤣 Bella was waaay more witty in the books

[@morgueish]

@@elderlybrunch4169 queen shit honestly she was sick of it

[@Sly-Moose]

As a Virgo, we don't claim her 😂

[@Sly-Moose]

Ah yes, let's just have Jacob pee on a baby, because that's TOTALLY NOT S'XUAL ASSAULT AS WELL 🤮🤮🤮

[@AmorJonatico1]

"How was ANYONE Team Jacob" Because I was 12 and Taylor Lautner had abs and wasn't pale... that's it.

[@AmandaTheJedi]

I appreciate the honesty

[@georginalouise95]

Now nearly 30 and I’ve realised I’m team Charlie... not for Bella (obvs)... for me

[@greenunicorn9908]

I don’t remember anything about that movie except for those abs

[@kennedyblanchard6637]

Literally Robert's sideburns made me team jacob

[@cheeseisherelive753]

@@georginalouise95 not me being closeted Team Carlisle 😂

[@senpaijecho]

stephenie meyer really went ahead and wrote bella's mom as horrible mother just bc she got a divorce, but thought that jacob imprinting on a baby was completely fine, yikes

[@26349]

Mormons be mormons. Grooming is a normal thing in their circles while a divorce is "you'll go to hell for that" type of thing.

[@idontneedaname318]

mormons gotta mormon

[@dreamiinotdream730]

I wonder how much better Twilight would’ve been if Stephanie wasn’t a mormon

[@lafkalaf6374]

I actually didn't know Stephenie was a mormon, it explains A LOT ! 😱

[@fangirldreamer748]

@@dreamiinotdream730 Bella would’ve been. In a polyamory relationship, with Alice and Jasper. Or a lesbian, relationship with Alice.

[@a2-2b-9s]

"You're 18, sweety! Life goes on and *ALICE* IS RIGHT THERE!" Amanda, we need your Bella x Alice fanfiction, NOW!!!

[@oli_kate]

Right now please

[@user-pi3hd2bt3f]

Isnt Alice married?

[@MrNorker77]

@@user-pi3hd2bt3f Shhh, don't ruin this for us

[@coralrose5754]

We need itttt

[@Ashandonyx]

@@user-pi3hd2bt3f polyamory

[@TheMidnightwolf15]

I honestly wished Leah was the main character instead of Bella after reading this. Her backstory is far more interesting than Bella's (then again, every other character in this story has a more interesting story than our main leads). She was dating Sam, who then disappeared on her, transforms into a wolf, imprints on her cousin, then Leah herself transforms into the only she-wolf which leads her to not only having to share a hivemind with her ex who's probably constantly sharing images of his time with her cousin but to also wonder if she's perhaps broken in some way because she fears that she'll be unable to have children because she's a wolf (with the blokes essentially calling her a genetic dead-end) and none of her pack is sympathetic to her in any way, she can't talk to anyone else about it outside the pack, and I can't recall if it actually happened in the book but I think it's heavily implied that the shock of her transforming in front of him after an argument caused her dad Harry to have a heart attack and die....like, yikes! And she gets so heavily sidelined like every other interesting character. I kinda wished she was able to overthrow Sam and become alpha of the pack instead of having to join Jacobs mini-pack that he forms in the next book, which she only joins because it gives her a chance to escape Sam and the hivemind they share!

[@rue8638]

“I’ll break your jaw if you ever touch her against her will again.” Edward said, calmly.

[@maricampelo7754]

This gives "Harry, did you put your name in the Goblet of fire?". Dumbledore asked, calmly.

[@Lithiel]

Clarification: There IS no Team Jacob, there is only " Team Before Jacob was written to suck~" Because the writer realized he was getting too popularXD

[@incelrevolution69]

Yeah, he was really cool are first and then became super mean

[@annadrozdz3040]

The words of wisdom

[@taysyre6155]

same, I actually liked his character and was able to understand him sometimes. Jacob's life wasn't sweet and I got that. I just wish Stephanie wrote how dangerous his wolf anger was differently...I definitely think Stephanie wanted to do a Jacob pov early on but decided against it.

[@taysyre6155]

made me hate his character he's disgusting

[@PassionPno]

I'm on Team Hot Daddy Carlisle Cullen.

[@inasaira8380]

i loved that edward emphasizes “against her will”. Hes not concerned about her cheating on him he just wants jacob to respect her wishes even if that means him getting cheated on. This is the same guy who broke into her room to watch her sleep in the first book. Do you know what that is? GROWTH.😂😂 we stan a consent king 👑

[@rizahawkeyepierce1380]

Well, he still disables her car to prevent her going anywhere without his permission, so I don't know about growth...but at least he does the bare minimum in not wanting her to be assaulted. Hooray...

[@inasaira8380]

@@rizahawkeyepierce1380 lol its a joke. the standards in twilight are so comically low that edward defending bella's right to cheat on him as long as its consensual, is the height of romance in this series.

[@rizahawkeyepierce1380]

@@inasaira8380 lol yeah. And if it weren't for his other actions, it'd be a pretty good line, but alas...

[@Dreigonix]

Ah, if only this one moment was the standard for his character throughout the series...

[@inasaira8380]

@@Dreigonix shhh we dont talk about the other stuff.😂😂😂😂

[@greeneyelove2003]

I'm glad to know I wasn't the only one who felt bad for Leah. Her boyfriend drops her for her cousin that he ends up disfiguring and he's an ass to Leah, because she can't just turn her feelings off like a light switch.

[@Author.Noelle.Alexandria]

The musical The Book of Mormon has a song called “Turn It Off” because, yeah, Mormons do believe that feelings can be turned off like that. Mormons love the hell out of the Musical since they do identity with a lot of it, which is sad. They aren’t appalled by it because it’s true stuff. In my area, the musical is so popular that, a few years ago, after the traveling Broadway show stopped here, the Mormon community in my area pushed so hard for it to come back that the traveling Broadway show spent what was to be a three-week break in traveling coming back here to do more shows. This isn’t even Utah.

[@TheNicolevertone]

And Leah is treated like she's a terrible person for being upset, by her entire community. She has no support in her group, and she has no mental privacy due to the pack lino, nor does she have any defence from their thoughts or their disgust at her "female issues" because they are deemed inconvenient

[@Author.Noelle.Alexandria]

@@TheNicolevertone They harass her for being heartbroken. When she tries to encourage Jacob about Bella, she's treated like shit. I bet the book she's doing from Leah's POV will try to handwave it.

[@greeneyelove2003]

@@TheNicolevertone Leah couldn't win, no matter what. She deserved better. Can you imagine having a mental connection with so many people? Never being able to have a private thought? That would be a nightmare for anyone.

[@saddlerrye6725]

Not to mention that she's literally the only wolf with health issues due to the wolf gene. For the boys, it's just being always young and hot, for Leah, it's literally BECOMING INFERTILE. She's scared out of her wits because there's some weird shit hapening with her body, and her pack is just like 'Ewwww, it's that uncomfortable girly stuff....'

[@feferis]

Let's just talk about alice more. Can we just do that?

[@rx500android]

I agree

[@AmandaTheJedi]

I will make my complete video tallying the Alice and Bella subtext some time this year I promise

[@trinaq]

Yes, this franchise would be MUCH more interesting if they focused on the more badass women, such as Alice, Rosalie or Leah!

[@maya-gv6ms]

@@AmandaTheJedi Y E S! Team Alice all the way

[@oli_kate]

@@AmandaTheJedi Yesssss! I'm so excited for this

[@hannahh2977]

It also sucks that Charlie asks if Jacob wants to charge Bella for assault but not the other way around.

[@multifandomperson8703]

He is a literal cop whose daughter got assaulted but "boys will be boys"

[@noelbernabe8704]

At least Charlie had the self control not to haul Bella off to jail for daring to assault Charlie's precious Jacob. Yeah, Charlie is a jerk.

[@omqvin]

fr

[@AnikMonette]

Not surprised her side of the story isn't heard. Also sadly realistic.

[@alexblanchard8559]

teenage me seeing Jacob kiss Bella without her consent for the first time: finds it romantic adult me watching a video that reminds me that scene existed: oh no...i supported this???

[@johannesseyfried7933]

Don't blame yourself. We were all young and a bit stupid once.

[@piaragaaa]

same. I also thought that edward breaking into bella's room to watch her sleep was romantic 😀 I cringe everytime I remember it

[@drfifteenmd7561]

I mean, I don’t get how because she literally punched him in the face.

[@alexblanchard8559]

I don’t either, I was team Jacob as a young child. I watched Eclipse for the first time when I was like 11 and I didn’t know what romance was. I’m much healthier now with relationships

[@m.s9972]

@@alexblanchard8559 Growth!

[@alliecat84]

What I really hated about this book, is that Stephanie introduced such a rich background of characters, lore (vampire and wolves) and history, but still decided she should definitely follow the girl stuck between a whinny nice guy and a control freak. Like, I wanna know what Alice did for 28 years while she waited for Jasper, I wanna know about Jasper’s recollections of the war, I wanna see the “creature in Siberia” that James hunted down! Like, you could make a really decent series based in the twilightverse and I feel like it’s a lot of wasted potential to only limit the story to the Bella/Edward romance. Alright rant over xD

[@mariannmarmal6665]

Also Carlisle’s whole story about how his father was this priest of something and they used to hunt down vampire and that’s how he was turned also his time with the voluturi is also something that interest me

[@saddlerrye6725]

Yeah, Eclipse is actually my favourite of the series because of all the interesting bacground stuff. I just chose to ignore the love triangle in the middle XD Also, thankfully, we have the magnificent thing that is fanfiction. If there is potential in a story or a world, there will be people who write about it.

[@Hi-dx5jt]

@@saddlerrye6725 same I really like that it has action and introduces new characters and actually pays attention to their backgrounds while still developing older characters and their backgrounds

[@user-rr3yw9dn1l]

Agreed. She has so many more books here.

[@Bee-oe1vi]

@@mariannmarmal6665 just realized he was once part of the Volturi yet never killed anyone.. ?

[@Pollo2711]

I honestly felt the Emily bit was darker. Like the only reason she accepted Sam was because he disfigured her and then showered her with attention like "I am only man that would love you as you are now". Kinda like those abusive partners that disfigure their partner's faces so they can't leave them because "no one else would want you" situations. Great video, thanks for bringing up Leah, I always felt bad for her.

[@Gelime_]

But she also talks about imprinting as being what happens to both people. So it's like bizzare that it's not consistent.

[@hayleybartek8643]

I think you’re reading too much into that. There’s no indication he attacked her intentionally or that she resented him over it, or that she was once loved by someone else but lost it after her disfigurement.

[@Pollo2711]

@@Gelime_ I get what you mean, but to what I remember when Jacob is talking about his friend who imprinted on a toddler it says the imprintee actually gets to choose whether it will become romantic and that the care and devotion from the shapeshifter will of course lead to that in jacob's pov. This disregards that with someone that young it would be grooming and that with adults it may be societal pressure or fear that leads to this (like that guy everyone tells you give a chance because he does so much for you even though you find him creepy). But I do agree that the world is just very inconsistent the way it was written and becomes very problematic. She may have loved Sam eventually but before he scarred her she was not willing to be with him because of what he did to her cousin Leah. This was just my interpretation, its totally fine to have a completely different opinion. Thank you for the different perspective.

[@Pollo2711]

@@hayleybartek8643 You may be right, I felt that way because of how I read it but its totally fine to see it differently. I do remember that they describe what happened to Emily as Sam being angry at her rejections and then totally wolfing out of control and scarring her, his subsequent devotion leading to her acceptance. I guess because they never said he hurt her anywhere besides her face that I took it as a more intentional act of disfigurement. We never get to know Emily's thoughts so we don't know if she resented him but I was just analogizing it to the real life situations where victims sometimes do stay with the one who scarred them because they feel like they can't be loved by another. Emily might not have had a lover but it is true that anyone who gets permanently disfigured would feel very insecure and especially for a young woman like Emily without a partner it may feel like she can never find one because she is no longer considered beautiful by society. Again, I have probably read to much into it, but its my opinion and I just wanted to share my thoughts and I accept that I could be totally wrong. Thanks for commenting, Its interesting to engage in the youtube comments.

[@BajanNeko]

I didn't read/watch but didn't he flip out at her rejection and accidentally scar her? At least that's what I heard.

[@trinaq]

Jacob: Claims to NEVER take anyone's free will away from them. Also Jacob: Sexually abuses a girl, and tricks her into kissing him, without her consent.

[@lauriecondamin796]

Exactly ! I got so mad when Bella told her dad about it and he still thought that Jacob was a good guy 😑

[@fabiomoreira5820]

@@lauriecondamin796 good girl Bella juggling 2 guys

[@my_cousin_mose9782]

Not defending Jacob at all but labeling this as sexual abuse is kind of a slap in the face to actual victims of abuse.

[@amandamiller7728]

@@lauriecondamin796 and he high fived him. Even though his daughter said she might have broken her hand from punching him....

[@ailtonsilva3314]

@@my_cousin_mose9782 not, is not.

[@MariaJoseRangelUwU]

Ok so apparently all that Team Edward or Team Jacob wasn’t about who you felt Bella should end up with but about who you thought was more handsome.

[@koushikibhattacharya7305]

Underrated comment 😅😅

[@techiepartoriza43]

Yes you're right.

[@annadaiglead]

Well duh

[@noelbernabe8704]

Maybe for the movies. For the book fans, it was probably hard to tell who was better looking (though based on Bellas descriptions Edward was basically the best looking guy in human history).

[@SammyWinchester]

I had forgotten that the Eclipse movie made Edward look more controlling than the books, while also softening some of Jacob's harsher qualities except for the double sexual assault, which still got played off as being romantic. If there's one thing I'm glad they changed, it was Charlie's reaction to Jacob assaulting Bella the first time. Him looking dumbfounded, while bad, was still better than him brushing of his daughter being in physical pain to congratulate a teen boy for assaulting his daughter.

[@athenajaxon2397]

Honestly Edward is worse in the books because he basically has Bella kidnapped

[@TheFourthWinchester]

That is why I like Edward. He is a very decent and noble character in the books. This is why I always shipped Ed-Bella. Bella is too precious for anyone else.

[@elizabethashley42]

@@TheFourthWinchester Ah yes, creeping into a teenage girl's bedroom to watch her sleep, disabling her truck, tons of other controlling and gaslighting actions throughout the novel, very noble.

[@TheFourthWinchester]

@@elizabethashley42 As if you're an immortal, ultra strong being who will ever understand what goes through his mind or how much he has seen through the decades.

[@elizabethashley42]

@@TheFourthWinchester This is such an out-of-left-field response that I burst out laughing, you do you bro. No kinkshaming (shipshaming?) from me.

[@briarwolf0501]

"If you ever kiss her against her will again..." I'm Team Alice, but if we must go the hetero route, then Edward is far superior to Jacob...for doing literally the bare fucking minimum.

[@notamy5432]

Right? How is he the only one in a scene that includes Bella’s father and town sherif to actually take Bella’s side on this?

[@TheFourthWinchester]

@@notamy5432 Have u gone to any college in the US? Most sexual assaults are pushed aside like this.

[@queencleopatra007]

@@TheFourthWinchester not usually by the victims own parents though, especially overprotective parents, like Charlie is towards Bella.

[@repulsethemonkey1396]

Watching that scene always makes me go "Yeah! Get him, edward!"

[@dawnmayflower4422]

@@repulsethemonkey1396 Same, and I don’t even like Edward.

[@jasmin6380]

I would unironically love it if they made an entire movie about Jaspers or Rosalies life before they met the Cullens their storys are insane

[@oli_kate]

But they would have to acknowledge the whole confederate thing which should definitely not be written by white people. But yes I would be very interested! Esme too. And Carlisle! Years of studying medicine at night and getting his thirst so under control. His fascination with new information and his morals and compassion and wish for family. So interesting! Alice's life too. I wish we could learn more about her before she became a vampire and then everything after.

[@jasmin6380]

@@oli_kate ah yeah I agree with that. It would make for a really interesting mini series or something for Netflix

[@emilyb.8219]

@@oli_kate I read a fanfic about Alice's life pre-Cullens. It was pretty interesting.

[@morganyoung3557]

Honestly what makes Twilight interesting to me are the side characters.

[@kcorphan308]

@@oli_kate Uhhh, white people existed back in the day and writing about historical periods while white is not an inherently bad thing. Granted, I think it would take considerably more skill than Meyers or most of the writers for Hollywood usually display to handle it in such a way as to not ruin the character or to showcase his growth as a person beyond his very short human life. It's rare to get a script writer who can handle that level of nuance, and even if they do there will always be people who hate Jasper's story just by virtue of his affiliation with the south but... You do realize there are documented cases where participants of the Confederate army only joined because of loyalty to their family than out of any particular beliefs about race relations. Robert E. Lee for example, had been a Union officer but resigned only a few days before Virginia seceded, after which he went on to lead the Confederate army. He didn't really support the secession of the South and only joined the war out of loyalty to Virginia. If they could build up that internal conflict of not wanting to fight but feeling obligated to do so and questioning his humanity when he ran into that vampire chick who turned him would make his transition story more interesting. That could be a compelling character study that explores race relations and the evolution of how race/interest in territory disputes stop mattering once you realize all humans taste the same. I just don't think there's anyone in any of those writer rooms who could convey that in a movie and we already know Meyers isn't good enough to write it herself, but that could be amazing.

[@amukhoza857]

Me remembering a book I read 12 years ago: “Jacob wasn’t that bad!!!!!!!” Amanda gives us a run down Me: “ 😶😶😶😶😶😶😶😶😶😶😶😶😶😶” how was anyone team Edward or Jacob!!!!! Run Bella run 🏃‍♀️!!!

[@MinisDunyasi5]

I’m Team Alice

[@desaririaz1302]

@@MinisDunyasi5Alice is really a bad friend though Alice can be just a manipulative as Edward she doesn’t care about Bella’s wishes or wants or even her well being beyond when it benefits her or Edward I think a good descriptor of their relationship as a whole is Alice is not Bella’s best friend she’s Edwards best friend From the very beginning Alice is integral in orchestrating Edward and Bella’s relationship which in itself is a very selfish thing to do in my opinion it’s quite clear that was for their benefit certainly not Bella’s it was for Edward yes and Alice wanted something to play with and Alice treats Bella like an accessory purse dog and as Bella says herself her guinea pig Barbie and Bella hates it She’s constantly forcing her to do things she doesn’t want to do and wear things she doesn’t want to wear she doesn’t pay attention to the things Bella likes or doesn’t care for Her and Edward force Bella to go to prom and I do mean force and trick her because they didn’t tell her that’s what they were doing She dressed Bella up and makes a mannequin out of her and Bella expresses that she doesn’t want to do that and she doesn’t want to be her guinea pig Barbie and Alice tells her to be quiet she says I don’t remember my human life so I’m living through you so you’ll deal with it and then the outtake she’s like are gonna stay still or do I have to get jasper to hold you down When Bella realizes realizes there making her go to prom which she very adamantly didn’t want she’s so upset she starts crying and edwards like why are crying And this wasn’t like a one time thing this is just what Alice does and continues to do for the rest of the series like her birthday party that she she specifically said she did not want that and Alice was like oh you have to let us have some fun I would think that Bella’s “best friend” would be considerate of she wanted on her birthday but not on the Cullens watch and there’s multiple times where Alice where Alice makes Bella wear something she doesn’t want to wear or do something she doesn’t want to do Not least of all the wedding Bella didn’t even want to get married as Edward manipulated her into getting married and yes that is what he did at his old age something she specifically did not want and she certainly doesn’t want to have a big production wedding and Alice guilts her into it and says if you really love me you’ll let me do this Bella and so Alice does the whole thing despite the fact that it makes Bella uncomfortable and she has nothing to do with her own wedding It’s emphasized to the point to where when Jacob receives that condescending wedding invite that Bella specifically noted she didn’t want sent but Edward sent it anyways Jacob knows right away that Bella had nothing to do with it because it’s so not her style and that she probably doesn’t even like it Of course Alice is also notorious for not just enabling but quite literally aiding and helping Edward is his manipulative controlling schemes Like when when Edward forbids Bella from seeing Jacob and her friends at la push and disables her car so she can’t go there he also goes so far as to have Alice help him to baby sit Bella and kidnap her as Alice happily goes along with it because Edward bribed her with a Porsche And not least of all but if Alice is supposed to be Bella’s “best friend” she is just as guilty as abandoning Bella without a trace in new moon as leaving her completely unprotected but that’s the thing she’s not Bella’s best friend but the really troublesome part is she claims rights to that title after doing absolutely nothing to earn it or demonstrate that she cares about Bella Like in new moon when she had the audacity to come back to forks quite literally acts like she owns the place and starts hurtling stuff at Jacob without ever speaking a word to him is not only vile in that regard but is completely dismissive of Bella and her feelings and her friend and has the nerve to be like Bella werewolves are not company to keep I can’t see past you and your pack of mutts when Jacob literally had just fished Bella out of the ocean and had been protecting and caring about her that whole time all the whole her and her awesome family including her confederate husband who tried to eat Bella at the birthday party she didn’t even want to have and her very safe brother who rectified the situation by throwing Bella into a table of glass taking her outside lying to her face destroying her self esteem ad abandoning her where nowhere to be found And I’d Bella hadn’t been keeping company with werewolves she would have been long since dead because of the problems that you created and Alice chose to take this opportunity to to be like ugh dogs you smell bad Does that sound like a real friend???

[@Sly-Moose]

Honestly? She should have just dated a human who was her age 😂

[@ghostguru9156]

“Doesn’t he own a shirt?“ Iconic also Rosalie’s revenge was such an amazing scene 😩and the scene where Alice drops from the trees onto Jasper’s shoulders is just 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼