Twinnuendo | Episode 9: A Little Childhood Christian Nationalism Part 1

[@AnnaOopss]

We all know the name of bar redacted but hearing them not beep out the actual name a couple times felt like hearing your parents swear for the first time

[@kiippykiip]

I gasped when i heard Drew say it

[@truittbriggs]

Not me thinking this whole time there was a bar called “bar redacted” in Chicago

[@karinah5318]

Same

[@Peace2Mateo]

It is bar redacted to us all.

[@completelyoriginal404]

Mama that's sidekicks

[@Pocoyo330]

I gagged when grant said sidetrack uncensored 😭

[@sarahbasso4351]

I'm crying 😂😂😂

[@belatedly]

We're 5 minutes in and Grant has spontaneously started singing twice. I can't wait for the rest of this.

[@Basey]

“I cried for half a second” “Yea. At a gay wedding” 😭😭😭 I love this podcast so much!!!!!

[@jorgiebeta]

As someone who does not believe in a structured religion but loves to listen to people break down the scripture I love when Grant does that. Patreon topic i would watch

[@jorgiebeta]

The ending was getting sooo good!!

[@Heysquirrelfriend]

“RIP Gone too late” 😂😂😂 I CANNOT! Hahaha

[@antonhaq3503]

Having had religion rammed down my throat growing up, I was naturally familiar with shame and guilt, until the rational adult in me made me reasses and I left my faith. I was raised Muslim but I can relate to so many of your stories and I'm enjoying the podcast so much. I hope you both continue this for a long time.

[@salem1281]

I would love an episode with the story of Grant leaving the church/deconstructing and what happened to make him stop being a pastor, if he's comfortable with that of course. I really love the podcast so much. This is the only podcast that I watch, and I can't wait for the new episode to come out every week! I can't support on Patreon right now, but hopefully I can once it's up and running!

[@runeguidanceofthenorse]

I love how the large paintings in the background reflect the personalities... Drew's colorful one & Grant's muted colors. Haha. "I'm gay...and I'm not" 😂

[@runeguidanceofthenorse]

@DianaStevens42 🤣

[@crp95]

This podcast is so validating and relatable every week. My dad once told a 93 yo old lady in my church that she’s going to hell bc she voted for JFK. And I think the first fact I knew about MLK was the mistress thing which is funny bc my mom was actively someone else in the church’s mistress. slay mama boots

[@emelienevander]

Haha love that Grant is so into the analytics! Yey Göteborg, Västra Götaland, Sverige. Thanks for shouting out my hometown (second largest city in Sweden) I am listening from Japan though, I wonder how big you fan base is here ❤

[@Dream312Girl]

1. Learning that Bar Redacted is not the real name of the bar while simultaneously learning the true name of the bar is an unlocked new quest that I didn’t know I needed. 2. I love a self aware, accountable queens. Darby, being accountable for their behavior in the past is so HOOOOT! 🥹 3. Free Palestine 4. I am fully, fully invested in learning both of you journeys surviving Christianity.

[@BatuhanBerkol]

I love how serious and unserious Grant is able to be simultaneously.

[@MrNycbrat]

I’m gonna watch anything Drew does in or out of drag. Thank you for putting out content as hard as it is but the fans appreciate it.

[@dasLlamas_94]

I hope I'm not the only one listening from Brazil. Thanks for the show

[@assispaulovs]

mais um aqui!

[@jordancox2910]

Grant: “There is a prophecy that Zeus is going to fall..” Drew: “He needs a Medalert bracelet.” 💀

[@willingandable8475]

"we are tight" is C R A Z Y

[@Greapes]

Idk if its the weather, but you guys have become more attractive as the episodes come out

[@MoyAmaro]

I think it's because they have good personalities and are funny. Also the lighting

[@MikeyMile5411]

You might be demisexual I too have noticed people become physically more attractive to me based on how much time and how close a friendship I have with someone It's like the more you get to know someone, the more attractive they get

[@desboogey]

@@MikeyMile5411not me finding out I’m demisexual in the comments 😧

[@jalexander1095]

Need a separate KAOS deep dive from our esteemed you-can-tell-he's-an-editor-because-he's-wearing-long-sleeves-heteroeditor, Grant, asap plz

[@Super_Grover_]

Another fabulous episode! 🩷 Grant you could totally lean in to podcasting and create a second podcast! You could talk more in depth about life and healing after leaving the church, about deconstructing an ideology you were born into, about your experiences as a pastor, about growing up, Christianity in general (there’s a million different topics within that alone), and maybe some interviews with guests, etc. There are so many directions you could take it, the possibilities are endless, and I truly believe a lot of Twinuendo listeners would support you, as many of us relate to you and enjoy your stories. You are very talented and a joy to listen to 🥰

[@velvtbttrfly79]

Could legit watch/listen to you two for hours.

[@queentakesrook]

I would throw 5-10 dollars at your patreon for bible discussion classes. I was a very OCD Catholic child, religion meant a lot to me then and I spent a lot of time in my young adulthood as an angry atheist, reading scripture to show people they were hypocrites. I'm very interested in a space where I can speak and listen on Christian culture and scripture from a place of compassion, study, and at least one part arming us to have conversations with the Christians in our lives.

[@queentakesrook]

I realize that's a lot to ask but, like, these are meaningful stories, it would be nice to talk about them and how they affect our lives in their complex and nuanced ways

[@scorxx6624]

Fucking love you guys. I don't usually consume extra content from creators, but this is pure gold!

[@cloroxbleachg5377]

I’m listening from Brisbane Australia, home of bluey 🐶🩵

[@Carebeargus]

Omg, thanks, Drew, and Grant for working so hard to put out this awesome content

[@camilaluna6025]

Oh the existential fear I had (as a closeted trans girlie) when I would wake up and my house was empty and I was almost positive I had been LEFT BEHIND ~dun dun dunnn~ I had always had a feeling that I didn't fit the picture of what the "non-denomination bible church" that I grew up in considered "saved." Funny enough, much like Grant I became a worship pastor - Unlike Grant I WAS the gay one (well queer) so I eventually left the church and then when I transitioned I got to be like Drew and go no-contact with a bunch of family. Ill be honest its WILD hearing yall talk about your experiences because growing up in Texas the christian nationalism was so similarly flavored to the kind both of you grew up with. I live on the west coast now, and when I tell people what the christian culture was/is like they are dumbfounded and are shocked and horrified, or its just really hard for them to believe it was really THAT bad and extreme.

[@GothBoyUK]

It was Vanity Vain listening from Göteborg. 🖤

[@erickirner3359]

I am seated for this WEEKLY

[@jakelizama6173]

I love this show so much! So happy to see you guys reconnecting and happy you both have such a cool space to share and still be vulnerable and hilarious. 🧡

[@LotteLane]

I mean I was entertained listening to you google stuff. Would have joined in but was peeling carrots which made the girth conversation all the more amusing.

[@toriahennesey]

The title of this pod has gone and effed up my Al-Gore-Rhythm and my recommendations are WILD

[@alexsudati]

Grant is winning the lighting game, he looks SO good, oh golly. 🥵

[@caitlinh7642]

Double the humor is unmatched ❤

[@cypriennezed5640]

Yay two parter-- this is gonna be good, the sweater/hoodie guy said so

[@joeyjose727]

35:34 “a touch of the tism” is insane omg 😭

[@pinkish410]

Your parents naming Martin Luther King day after the man that assissinated him..... That's levels of racism I didn't even think about. That's WILD. I'm so curious as to how you guys didn't succumb to that racism indoctrination. Like how did y'all get out of that?

[@I_amsoprecious]

Now THIS is what I want to hear more of. My god, the evil some so-called Christians impose on the rest of us. I knew Jerry Falwell was the scum of pond scum but the hypocrisy knew no bounds! And of course all these years later, so many of these charlatans now proclaim their love and understanding for Dr. King, their version being a toothless enuch of course.

[@peytonc6368]

Always looking forward to Tuesdays!!!

[@Bazibishop]

I actually love you guys

[@hallm3lbp]

I know there’s so much trauma involved but hearing you peel back another fascinatingly disgusting layer on the onion of American culture each episode is so enjoyable to listen to. Love you both! 💖💖💖

[@shellyenglish]

Your audio was fine, Grant….or I am just tone deaf. This was a great episode. I love that even though I am subscribed on Spotify, I won’t listen to the episode until I can watch it on KZbin. ❤❤❤

[@karinah5318]

Another great episode 😌 I’m learning more about US politics and religion than I ever knew I wanted to 🙃

[@EmmaFlorez]

I had a nurse practitioner put me on Wellbutrin for my ADHD. Didn't work and gave me a new eating disorder (which my prescriber saw as an exclusively good thing). Switched to vyvanse until it wasn't available in my area. Was off for a while. Started on Adderall a couple months ago, which was a crazy transition, but now I've evened out and feel a lot better

[@londongirl2012]

Yay. Was wondering when this was going to drop for your European fans. Fankssssssssss❤

[@Roger-xt3rp]

Hi from New Orleans!! I've never listened to a podcast mostly bc I'm too lazy to pick one. I'm so happy y'all are my fist. Please tell us all the stories. I know we'd love them

[@terrance26]

Not this episode bringing up the war flashbacks of being closeted preteen who read left behind lmao 😭

[@yogawithyogidelic]

never related to Darby more til she shared that story about drunken antics. tysm for brave!!!! 😂😂😂

[@andyb5947]

The Weiner dog art is immaculate.

[@donna_piranha]

Love how Grant said "Everyone loves her" and my first thought, as well as Drew's, was "Dolly Parton!"

[@theembersinside1420]

❤ this pod! BTW, Independent actually is a political party. Unenrolled is more what I think Grant's looking for.

[@MoyAmaro]

I really enjoyed this episode!! Love when people put current problems into a historical perspective

[@ZoeHyde]

"Lets go to the tape - ....we still don't have tape."

[@ZoeHyde]

Also re: stuff we'd like to see - I'd LOVE to meet both your partners, I think Curtis has been on IMHO before but I just got here

[@alexavallesmusic]

Can I request a love, partner related episode? Idk if both of your partners were with you during your big life changes (aka leaving mega church and bar redacted) but I specially wonder about Grant's wife because ik having similar religious beliefs is so important in Christian relationships, did yall happen to change your perspectives about the church simultaneously or how was this journey for Angela as well? Maybe she can be a special guest sometime if she's up for it :)

[@lizcandy37]

I'm so excited about getting double the twinnuendo!!🎉

[@liam0709]

Grant you need to start working on an hour and doing open mics. You’re so funny. Also I love you❤

[@DonttalktoGrant]

Thanks! And I did open mics for a little while. I do want to do it more for sure. Also love you too.

[@rossanovigna6275]

16:20 turn down for what? The Lord! Hahahahah ❣️

[@brentbentKRFP]

Lovely way to start a day! Kudos for the continued success of your new venture.

[@TheFloon]

I gotta see if I can locate my old Zune just to try and make Grant's day.

[@Saltyb1tch87]

Wow, I cannot believe that bar isn’t actually called Bar Redacted!

[@alaynatwirls1379]

I just binged Koas before watching this! What are the chances?? This is the holy spirit at work. God is real! 🙏

[@guilhermeaoshi]

About the bar: Their big mistake wasnt not having Darby plaque...It was no changing the name of the to Darbys (and than having a plaque together). And Grant, dont take Drews reference of The Gay Male Pornstar for granted. We have waaay better ones.

[@JCRich001]

Grant’s deconstruction rants are so fascinating to me. Grew up Southern Baptist and that kind of critical thinking never happened. This is wild stuff to me.

[@suddenlytrey]

Yay Patreon!🎉

[@C_M_R]

(17:25) I am watching this on a browser .... I feel very attacked. 😆

[@8hypnotyze8]

As someone who’s name ALSO happens to be Ty the beginning of this pod really put me through something. And you know what… I am the one who made the mistake, but I won’t apologize because I AM non-binary and it’s my right to not apologize to cis people.

[@miloreen5998]

I indeed smashed that like button.

[@joshuacooper1160]

Grant saying the name of the bar I’m dead☠️ he does not gaf

[@loomis88]

This episode!!! Turn down for what? The lord. ☠️☠️☠️

[@brk726]

43:30 The dichotomy of man.

[@johindigo]

Grant I'm really glad you were the first person to dare to say the name of my city. It was pronounced 100% correctly and everyone else who has tried since then has been wrong because you were first.

[@johindigo]

Your assumption that we don't understand or experience christian nationalism is wrong though. America exports that shit to everywhere and everyone, and I had to grow up with it thanks to you, specifically you, Grant. You were first with that too.

[@LMJ457]

Drew's couch looks insanely comfortable. I need it'

[@jrome9825]

Great vid ❤

[@mirasilverthorn6733]

My boyfriend’s cousin is Butch Ware (Jill Steins vp pick). Everyone else in the family is openly telling his mom that they aren’t voting for him lmao.

[@olegarioparra451]

Love yall❤❤

[@Bazibishop]

As a fraternal gen z twin I love you uncs ❤

[@kaitol1934]

As a kai it felt strange for guys ( ooop ) to say my name in a gaslighty way hahahahahaha

[@pleasenohandle]

Watching the same personality in two different fonts has been really fun.

[@Thinkinboutnuthin]

Ty

[@maijabennett6224]

Oh wow, also watching from Sweden! Other coast though, hi Olga!

[@Pr0seO]

Yay! Double episode action! See yall Thursday!

[@reesemaxk]

my sister and i still talk about left behind the movies. scarring as ever.

[@Ernie_Bernie]

Gonna pull out the old ipod and download the next episode for shits and gigs 😂

[@eggxcuses0662]

Ooh, a tow parter ❤ looking forward to part 2 and the maga church shenanigans

[@zaighamriaz4865]

Ok, looking at American politics as a non-American progressive, I don't know what is the best electoral strategy to support and progress progressive policies in America, but almost everything on Jill Stein's agenda makes sense to me. And Drew, I almost teared up listening to your support for peace ❤

[@BjornHa]

In Scandinavia her policies would count as just a hair left of center, but in the US she is a radical leftist. It's so interesting watching it from abroad.

[@TheFloon]

That's the problem, is that without ranked choice or something similar, voting for Jill Stein just becomes a spoiler vote that ultimately helps Trump.

[@cindybauer3107]

"Hell Is The Absence of God" the short story by Ted Chiang is super good, I think you would love it! It's kind of a science fictiony take on heaven and angels, and if you get a visitation it is not necessarily a good thing.

[@jon1065]

Yayy!

[@sonee_moon]

It’s good to see the vocals are twin-shared trait 😭👏🏼👏🏼

[@joshuanaponte1605]

To this moment i thought that “bar redacted” was a bar that was opened before i lived in chicago!!!!! Im dead

[@kylebnjmnross]

*roller coaster nerd alert* in 2015 the zippin pippin was rebuilt in Green Bay, WI by The Gravity Group using the original blueprints. as far as I know it didn't re-use anything from the original as it wasn't in good enough condition, but I could be wrong.

[@HazelwithaZ]

4:30 Trickle down healthcare

[@marcelthestars]

35:31 shout-out to Piper for loving true cinematic masterpiece pls update us on your thoughts on the movie!!

[@Average_Lavigne]

What paint color is the straight ones walls? It is such a striking color.

[@DonttalktoGrant]

Benjamin Moore Blue Nova 825

[@caleba9648]

I read and enjoyed a book called "Jesus and John Wayne" on the history of christian nationalism

[@braynroquero2918]

I can't wait for your reaction video with Dragrace PH's Snatch Game knba... It's quite funny but heavy in the Filipino humour. Love you both!

[@heartcardin6399]

I genuinely enjoyed y’all googling but I’m also stoned so 😂

[@allisonmartin4320]

"Do you ever think what our lives would have been like if we weren't raised in a cult?" "All the time." That's 100% exmormon me!!

[@Manduhrinoranges]

Darby please tell me where the couch is from

[@oleeeee7807]

Why do they look so similar?

[@SpoodyFlopp]

They're an escaped government experiment gone horribly wrong. That's why Drew does drag, so no one knows they're from the same egg.

[@davidcancun]

Love the podcast, I had to choose between domestic violence and substance abuse at home or living with the christian grandparents having to go to church 4 times a week :-( honestly both options were pretty bad.

[@jcancer2011]

47:24 Your mom was your dad mistress now wife! I really hope this doesn’t come off rude this sounds like a tv show please y’all should write it. 💙

[@sarahbasso4351]

At its core, im disinterested is actually how i feel about most things. Grant speaking truth lol