TWITCH NOW LETS STREAMERS PAY FOR VIEWERS?! | NEW Twitch Stream Boost Feature

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@the_mess_express
@the_mess_express 3 жыл бұрын
The other big thing, even though people will be paying for impressions, it’ll be interesting to see how the recommendations targeting is applied. If someone pays for 1k recommendations for a Valorant player, but all those recommendations go toward an AMSR communities, those impressions will go to waste. If we are able to spend money for essentially a recommendation ad space, hopefully we would also be able to adjust targeting options as well as see results such as CTR and CPC.
@HustleMagnets
@HustleMagnets 2 жыл бұрын
Paying for viewers and having a dead chat wont add up lol....
@KennyMaximum
@KennyMaximum 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this feature shouldn't even be available to streamers that's over a certain follower threshold. It should ONLY be available to streamers until their channel can stand on it's own.
@messengerofparty
@messengerofparty 3 жыл бұрын
On the Twitch stream they said the threshold is 250 viewers average and lower. But we'll see what happens here... 😩
@NoobsieGames
@NoobsieGames 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, had to rewatch after my first initial reaction. I feel like this is going to make small streamers with no extra income feel like crap. They will start thinking they can't compete with the other small streamers that can afford to boost. It might cause them to just give up, which is sad. All though on the flip side, it might push them to work harder. Idk, this just leaves a really bad taste in my mouth and I don't like it. But like you said, Twitch will probably get a ton of backlash and scrap it anyway. We'll just have to see how it goes.
@KennyMaximum
@KennyMaximum 3 жыл бұрын
If people can't afford the couple/few bucks twitch is asking for these boosts, then those people should be trying to find a day job first to support their hustle job (Twitch). You withdraw what you deposit and more if ya play your cards right. I'm going through an entire mindset change after finally having a much needed epiphany and will be enhancing everything I do to grow now.
@NoobsieGames
@NoobsieGames 3 жыл бұрын
Its not always that easy. Everyone's situation is different. People fall on hard times and can't always bounce back right away. Others stream to distract them for a few hours from a crappy day. A "few bucks" here and there isn't much I agree. But being short on cash isn't a reason to not stream. I just hope it doesn't make them feel like it. Times are tough for a lot of people right now. I would just hate to see them feel worse because of this. Just my opinion. 😊
@ambeegaming76
@ambeegaming76 3 жыл бұрын
I mean if you can't even set aside $10 a month for 'advertising' you aren't thinking in the right way to get big anyway.
@tivasthegamer9817
@tivasthegamer9817 2 жыл бұрын
​@@KennyMaximum So, just to be clear about your point of view: a streamer must spend money for equipment, internet service, power supply, (in some cases) for overlays, monthly fees for web-based platforms, tons of hours for live-streaming and editing, video games, and now they will have to support their hustle job paying something else too in order to have a small chance of being discovered? A tool that must be provided by Twitch for free (common sense)?
@KennyMaximum
@KennyMaximum 2 жыл бұрын
@@tivasthegamer9817 You'd have internet and power regardless of if you're on Twitch. The amount of money you spend on equipment is YOUR problem, some get by with little and some spend a fortune. Never had to pay for overlays or web-based platforms so that sounds like a waste. What are you editing, it's a live stream right? You'd buy games anyway if you weren't a streamer. If you ask me, this viewer boost sounds like it'll get more done for your channel then most of the expensive equipment you may have purchased at a MUCH cheaper price point. Tell you what, I'll be your guinea pig Tivas, I'll try out the feature and let you know what's up cause something tells me y'all ain't thinking this through and I want us all to start making the big bucks.
@FrauTrollinger
@FrauTrollinger 3 жыл бұрын
I was one of the streamer Who checked out this bost. It was in a time wehre we had hate from 3 other streamer because I am a Big woman and 49 Jears old and play fortnite. The boost is god you get people in your stream. And we get some of them for the community. The bost was in the category. You wehre starting on twitch on the day. Sorry for my bad english, I am from germany.
@LiteEmUp_Johnny
@LiteEmUp_Johnny 3 жыл бұрын
Twitch is getting real dark right now...just like your room 😶
@HighStreetCred
@HighStreetCred 3 жыл бұрын
I’m trying to understand how consumers are now paying for advertising a business. Because that’s what’s happening here…how dat make sense though?
@PyroTech03
@PyroTech03 3 жыл бұрын
Not much different than boosting a post in Facebook or paying for an ad on KZbin. Nor buying bits for that matter. Hell this might be more useful than viewers buying you bits.
@KDX-uc1lx
@KDX-uc1lx 3 жыл бұрын
Does this mean my recomendations will be based on who's community is willing to pay for an ad campaign?
@aleo_ca
@aleo_ca 3 жыл бұрын
yes, essentially a good portion if not all of it
@midlifesniper2733
@midlifesniper2733 2 жыл бұрын
At least there will be SOME sort of discoverability options for small streamers.
@abysses7996
@abysses7996 3 жыл бұрын
That feature is pretty much useless from how I see it. If you wanna get "recommended", if you want more viewers, it's simple: How marketing works from a platform to another. Learn how to advertise yourself on KZbin, then bring that audience to Twitch. Learn how to do the exact same thing but on TikTok, because the algorithm is totally different from KZbin. Again, do the same for Twitter, and so on and so forth. Then OVER TIME, you'll see growth.
@rumuco
@rumuco 2 жыл бұрын
But there's also paid ads, on KZbin, on Instagram, on Facebook, this is like that kind of advertising, paid, not organic, if it's targeted, you don't need to spend time and effort making additional content, just spend money
@benwebb4424
@benwebb4424 3 жыл бұрын
For me the weird thing isn't that it skews discoverability, or that it is or isn't effective at even doing that. It's that from what we can tell the streamer gets 0% of the money. This means if you're interested in supporting the streamer monetarily the function is useless since subbing, gift subbing, bits, or even just straight up donating is more effective at doing that. As a viewer buying this for a streamer, you're essentially gambling the money instead of directly supporting. Why would you choose to do this? The flip side of that is if the streamer spent 1 dollar from every sub to boost, they'd effectively both get monetary support and boosted BUT even that seems silly since having a lot of subs should naturally boost your visibility since that means you have a lot of people willing to pay you for your content - which circles back to the first point. If enough people are paying for this to be effective for the streamer, that means the streamer is likely already visible, and in the off chance that they're not what are the odds that a few people boosting them gives them enough visibility to get an amount of new viewers that it's more monetarily sound than just spending in a more direct fashion?
@Lit757
@Lit757 2 жыл бұрын
The only people upset are the bigger steamers who have strong followings , because they don’t want a smaller more entertaining streamer to get noticed and take from their following . However as a smaller streamer it’s almost impossible to build a following in a timely manner without some type help. My advices just keep doing what you’re doing it’s working been working ! It’s not like you can’t use the boost too ,
@ericmonroe6024
@ericmonroe6024 3 жыл бұрын
2 things…….first, if I pay for let’s say the 3,000 viewer tier. I stream MSFS2020 and there is usually only 1100 average viewers in that category at any given time…..so how can they honor 3k viewers in a category that doesn’t support that. Second, this sounds a lot like they took a page out of FB Gaming’s playbook #yikes 😰
@Dads1stTime
@Dads1stTime 2 жыл бұрын
The real issue with this is that there is no profit made for the streamer. You pay to boost, but the streamer sees no residual from it minus the potential to have more viewers. Maybe remove the carousel of popular channels on the main page, and reserve it for streamers with under 100 viewers. Offer it at random to 15 streamers in 15 min blocks and it's a lottery shot. If it pops up on your stream, your chat is more likely to boost you to the carousel if it means you could gain 1,000 eyes and hone in on 5-10% of the audience to potentially gain lifers. I think that is only way the value proposition of a boost makes sense. Boosting to recommended for you is not worth the money
@kriddius
@kriddius 2 жыл бұрын
Devin Nash did a video on this. The boost thing will have very little actual benefit to those you're boosting, if at all. It's burning your money needlessly
@SemvanBlerkGuitar
@SemvanBlerkGuitar 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't this feature be way more unfair with channel points instead of paying for it? Bigger and middle size communities would have way more channel point buying power than streamers with less viewers, cos with the higher viewer numbers the total amount of channel points that have been given to all the added up viewers on their channel is way higher...
@sun-eye
@sun-eye 2 жыл бұрын
I see the post in this video and the KZbinr making it and I cannot believe what I am seeing. Twitch already enforces long advertisements to its viewers that hurts streamers. Twitch has not dealt with its DMCA issue. They have a plethora of other problems. Now, they are charging streamers to pay for a basic function as discoverability? Yet, you have people in the comments section and this KZbinr saying that it may be a good thing? There is a reason why many streamers are leaving. I have been noticing that there are two camps on Twitch. The first camp are business minded people who strategizes Twitch to make them money. The other camp are streamers who likes to get abused, has not accepted Twitch's eventual downfall, still dreaming of the days when Twitch was big, and are willing to accept their own destruction by doing so. The first camp has already seen the writing on the wall and either, planned beforehand or are currently planning an escape route. Understand one thing, Amazon does NOT want Twitch! They can easily help fund Twitch to become powerful, but are not going to make the investment.
@sun-eye
@sun-eye 2 жыл бұрын
In what Universe does paying for your own discoverability makes sense. Remember, we are not talking about 'Boost', which is a term Twitch is using to confuse you and is working for those masochists that likes to get abused; we are talking about you paying to get on top and the streamer with the most money reaps the benefits. In other words, because Twitch cannot come up with an algorithm so you can get noticed, they are saying we will charge people to get them on top, make money doing so, and sell it under the guise as 'discoverability.
@sun-eye
@sun-eye 2 жыл бұрын
Therefore, if everyone is paying $10 to get boosted, then what? I will give you the answer... we are back to square one -- no discoverability -- and Twitch makes money on you losing out. If you cannot see this, then maybe it's a good thing so your suffering is quick and painless.
@burninoutmyretnas4397
@burninoutmyretnas4397 2 жыл бұрын
High IQ comment
@Syafire
@Syafire 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these news videos Ashni, they have been really helpful
@the_motherowl
@the_motherowl 3 жыл бұрын
If Twitch wants to make more money, they first need to make the platform bigger. So, INVESTING in ways to make it more user friendly, campaigns, etc, or anything that brings people in should be their top priority. More people in is more content, more economy, more longevity,... Is this monetizing feature a bad idea from a business stand point? No... but first you need to give streams some tools. The gap between big and small streamers is already significant. Your effort and time (content) is becoming less valuable.
@kylecommunist
@kylecommunist 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. It feels like Twitch hasnt done much to help streamers. I almost had a deal where they invested in my stream - they have a partner program with a pot of money they can dish out to help streamers. The trouble is, they toyed with me, extended expectations and more until I finally said no and took the project solo. It's wild how out of touch they are as a company. Signed AnAngryButLoyalTwitchPartner
@KingznQueenzEntertainment
@KingznQueenzEntertainment 2 жыл бұрын
Always Appreciate your Shows ❤🙏🏿
@blupoppy
@blupoppy 2 жыл бұрын
I thinks it’s a good idea for people who don’t have affiliate yet
@GutzyAiden
@GutzyAiden 2 жыл бұрын
At 6:43 You say that theres nothing wrong with this feature and that business should look to make more money! I agree, however twitch is taking 100% of this boosting income, and they already take 50% of subs. Even most partners don't have better splits than affiliates do. KZbin takes 30%, OF Takes 20%, And Facebook takes 0% till 2022. How is anyone going to justify how they are already taking 50% of peoples subs and are STILL Cash grabbing at the community. This is Typical amazon behavior and worries me for the future of twitch. Because YT is still profiting daily and would rather focus on getting more creators on their platform than to cash grab at viewers, And the head of YT gaming is in touch with people on twitter all the time interacting with everyone. twitch has no discoverability, No transparency, and again takes half of your subs. When is twitch going to take action and learn from the community that it has?? There is a Massive and i mean MASSIVE Disconnect from being a streamer and the higher ups at twitch. These are my thoughts on it right now, I dont hate twitch just would hate to see the platform die.
@tribopower
@tribopower 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe I am looking at this wrong but this looks like gamble or gacha to me, throw money for a chance to get more viewers, sometimes you may pay 1 dollar and get 10+ new viewers... other times you may pay 100 and receive 0. Its so uncertain that it does look my a cash sink, the only way I can see this being viable is if twitch gives a safeguard "oh you paid 100 bucks in ads but got 0 new viewers, here take your money back" else its trully just cash burning
@roninstormYT
@roninstormYT 3 жыл бұрын
to be honest this is not going too work cause in trovo we have something like this we get too use free currency from the site . but people join the streams but they are not there for you . same with this with twitch there be people who be there for you some will not be there for you .tomrrow trovo will remove this feature from there site they listen too their streamers at least. so yea i tried this on trovo does not work it works getting views but non of those viewers return.
@bunnyshade6112
@bunnyshade6112 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair they don't return because the streamers content isn't to their liking. I do think it can help to a degree but once ppl click to check you out it's up to you to keep them.
@456baykiller
@456baykiller 3 жыл бұрын
i’ve been doing this for three years faithfully no days off and giving it my all I do not want to lose something I’ve built up for three years so please help me
@MultiDoublestuffed
@MultiDoublestuffed 3 жыл бұрын
I am confused i looked all over to read more on this but i can not find this info anywere
@Lullichiiqa
@Lullichiiqa 2 жыл бұрын
Also, I like the 3 lights in the back from Elgato, but no lights in the recording 😁🤪
@O4C209
@O4C209 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to use this. Fry from Futurama: Shut up, and take my money!
@Shannibal_MTG
@Shannibal_MTG 3 жыл бұрын
If the conversion rate is similar to impressions vs sales, it would be 10 viewers (or less) for 1,000 impressions, which doesn't seem bad but I think there are better ways to try to make discoverbility an actual thing
@EricJGaming
@EricJGaming 3 жыл бұрын
It's that their response against view bots ? OMG 😂
@KittyOzzyZiggy3895
@KittyOzzyZiggy3895 2 жыл бұрын
In this country its all about the money if you want to make more money you have to spend more money its just business
@tivasthegamer9817
@tivasthegamer9817 2 жыл бұрын
My guess is that this won't work unless it´s available only for small streamers, because larger streamers have tons of people willing to invest enough to get their favorite to the top (where the stream already is). Medium size streams have less viewers but willing to help the streamer as well (Then those will be promoted enough to stay in the same spot they already are). Small and undiscovered streamers have not enough people to compete. In the end, things would stay the same but Twitch will be getting more money... I say again, it would work if this is only for small streams.
@dave2co1d
@dave2co1d 3 жыл бұрын
is there a way for me to get the stream-book because im not receiving through my email
@456baykiller
@456baykiller 3 жыл бұрын
I really need help if anybody know how to fix my situation please get back to me my payout was suspended and I’ve been trying to get in touch with twitch to be able to fix it in they have not help me and they also took off bits from my channel for no reason
@AwkwardJess
@AwkwardJess 3 жыл бұрын
Twitch should be ashamed of themselves. This is a disaster. And it won't help streamers like it sounds from Twitch.
@NoobsieGames
@NoobsieGames 3 жыл бұрын
What in the actual F?? This can't be real.
@fluxwkeys
@fluxwkeys 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is just going to be a way to get about 1%-2% of 1000 people to even drop in to your stream seem its more going to be like 5-10 new viewers that aren't confirmed to even stay in your stream but I can get this feature on my account I might test it and come back and update this comment with the result
@moemoe299
@moemoe299 3 жыл бұрын
When will it be available?
@KROW_COMBOS
@KROW_COMBOS 3 жыл бұрын
So instead of doing a better job of making smaller creators get noticed they just focus on making even more money 😒 Great video!
@captcrabs
@captcrabs 2 жыл бұрын
the slack sounds were really messing me up while at work.
@indiecreatorhub
@indiecreatorhub 3 жыл бұрын
From my understanding it's built off from the channel points system only now, your viewers are able to spend irl money to boost their favorite channel. Unlike TikTok, Facebook, Twitter and others that do offer a nice, free option of discoverability. Twitch really has none of that and is coming out with a paid value-add when they haven't done the work leading up to this. I have to agree with Harris and others when they say that Twitch is being squeezed to draw out as much money as possible before the eventual decline/sale/shutdown.
@MercrediBenz
@MercrediBenz 3 жыл бұрын
If it was a way to promote clips it might work.
@ashnichrist
@ashnichrist 3 жыл бұрын
what do yall think? will you use this feature if you get it? also clickable link for tiktok if ur lazy like me tiktok.com/@ashnichrist_
@Lullichiiqa
@Lullichiiqa 2 жыл бұрын
I though 'wtf' the first 30-60 secs, but after seeing how it looks like, I more see it as an paid AD - just like Facebook ads and Google ads. If thats the case I acutally think its a brillant idea, because you might have some awesome streamers stuck with less than 5 viewers because they don't get discovered and thats hard to change unless the roulette hit their number when people surf for streams. With advertise it would make them get a chance, and that shouldnt be anything to be upset about in my opinion. If its 1000 fake viewers I will admit i think there is some issues, to its not real - but yet again, I also could see it kinda would be needed because people might give 1-2 min more time to see what they got if they have 1005 viewers vs 5 viewers. I dont see how it could hurting anyone atleast, but there could be some cons I dont see now I will see when its in use. (i didnt see the whole video yet - just what came to me, at the start of it. I'll watch the rest soon)
@YosemiteBunston
@YosemiteBunston 2 жыл бұрын
I know that djWheat said he thought 💭 it be a great Idea that he had twitch created for it to which he did stream over it after the blow up of coming After that idea in what he wasn't expecting from it as well, anyways...
@YosemiteBunston
@YosemiteBunston 2 жыл бұрын
Think the idea also comes out of seeing it on discord, boosts in discord, basically.
@kainemaxwell
@kainemaxwell 3 жыл бұрын
I hate all of this
@Britishbrat
@Britishbrat 3 жыл бұрын
Man those slack notifications xD
@ashnichrist
@ashnichrist 3 жыл бұрын
omg im so glad you know my pain lmao
@KingznQueenzEntertainment
@KingznQueenzEntertainment 2 жыл бұрын
Yup Twitch takes 100% of the profits nice help 🤣 Bye gifted subs down 20%
@AwesomeAutisticGamer
@AwesomeAutisticGamer 3 жыл бұрын
interesting development
@Fluttersai
@Fluttersai 3 жыл бұрын
😅 the people with a lot of money will do this all the time....
@SilvaShadow1990
@SilvaShadow1990 3 жыл бұрын
Watch there be live streams to see who can buy the most XD
@JordanPressPlay
@JordanPressPlay 3 жыл бұрын
What would be a smart move would be.. while the twitch streamer they usually watches runs ads the streamers who are using this are shown during the ads
@haruhisuzumiya6650
@haruhisuzumiya6650 2 жыл бұрын
This is pure greed
@DagnielMantilla
@DagnielMantilla 3 жыл бұрын
I saw your tweet
@456baykiller
@456baykiller 3 жыл бұрын
at all I really need help with this because twitch is the only way I make my income it is impossible for me to get a job because I am visually impaired and also albino so please if anybody can help me I will be very grateful
@MysticNinjaSoul
@MysticNinjaSoul 2 жыл бұрын
This has literally made me say to hell with Twitch, no lie.
@OldGamr
@OldGamr 2 жыл бұрын
Why?
@mrcarlostapia
@mrcarlostapia 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like Twitch becoming a pay to win...
@draco894
@draco894 3 жыл бұрын
Is pay to win
@draco894
@draco894 3 жыл бұрын
Would like to add yes, in the Dashboard I distinctly remember boost being touted as channel points as part of community goal
@draco894
@draco894 3 жыл бұрын
Ad spots?
@KDR-
@KDR- 2 жыл бұрын
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