Twitch Plays Pokemon Showdown

[@FreezaiPokemon]

Update: Ending Twitch Plays Pokemon Showdown early due to lack of interest :( We did reach 1500 Elo in the end though, so good work everyone! Will pivot to focus more on event based ideas with this, like Can Twitch Beat X player or X's Chat vs Y's Chat, etc Feel free to post your ideas and opinions down below. Thanks

[@Random_Person2]

Might be interesting to do some custom game formats. 20 chanseys on field vs 20 chanseys on opposite side all at once with them all only knowing metronome and softboiled would surely be a skillful match that chat can solve. Could also have a set team with weird ass moves needed to be used to win escape room style like needing to forests curse to rototiller to then foul play with some sash/sturdy mons, and have us repeat battle over and over until we manage to beat it or hax it.

[@ash_sunday]

freezai chat vs jimmothy chat would feed families

[@somenonsense7997]

:( just saw the video

[@Raito]

What do you mean lack of interest? You didn't even leave it up longer than a day. It's the holidays, and lots of people didn't see the video, yet.

[@kenzo8096]

shame, it was so much fun!

[@nikres888]

It was definitely a fun stream. My question is why the megahorn heracross clip didn’t make it in here. At one point we were just spamming megahorn and swept an entire team

[@eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee9594]

They didnt expect crabhammer 1 time in a row

[@_Polaris042]

The cute thing about this was essentially Freezai being a teacher and guiding twitch chat into learning better and how to play better

[@AmbiambiSinistrous]

Freezai would be a good dad 😅

[@ivanpaijolin9128]

Yeah he mostly also trying his best to not backseat and asking us like why will you do now chat?

[@mx_sunny]

sigh, i admit, it was me

[@Crayvanitas]

U monster(idk what u are talking about)

[@mx_sunny]

@Crayvanitas threw the game, obviously

[@axr1798]

@@Crayvanitas But whyyyyy :(

[@dirtyneptunemain917]

Dio!?

[@mx_sunny]

@@dirtyneptunemain917 KONO DIO DA!

[@dlp6567]

That "Twitch" guy seems kinda ass, but has a very unique playing style. I hope he and Freezai do a collab again someday!😊

[@Idktoname]

I was so proud when we used tera fighting on palafin to hit soemthign with neutral stab, i believe it was the first tera for the entire stream

[@efdoesStuff]

If 1500 is average I suck alot more than I thought

[@SupahTrunks7]

Sameeee

[@Sonatism]

It really depends on ur definition of average for someone like freezai who's really good 1500 would seem average

[@haveagreatday6952]

Lmao it ain’t.

[@LordPhilipJFry]

The script gives chat only 5 seconds to select an action. There is no way to consider all your options and choose the best one in 5 seconds. It's basically setting chat up to fail.

[@danielgyila3662]

I suppose beacuse of the game timer he cant allow for more time

[@stelpher]

Another difficulty is the hive mind doesn't get a lot of time to think. When I was on the stream you got about 5-10 seconds per turn to think about the situation, type up your move and press enter. Not a lot of time to think the turn through or convince others to do something other than spam the super effective move.

[@MuDkipzCHancelLOr]

“Top 500” “Average player” Lolwut

[@skunkapestories4622]

Smogon has always had a default of elitism, and it's especially bad this generation when council pretty much only listens to OLT players. Suspect test choices, viability, teambuilding trends, et cetera are predominantly based on the experiences of that group, with people who casually ladder being considered unimportant. So "average" here is actually "average for the people who strongly prioritize their showdown stats."

[@Mespyy]

⁠@@skunkapestories4622Heavy on the elitism, it’s one of the biggest downsides of being involved with Pokemon Showdown in general. No chance 1500 is considered an average player, I’d say that’s substantially above average while majority of the real average players usually play around the 1200s

[@faaagamer]

did nobody actually check that this is rands and not ou, rands #1 goes like 2.4k+ since it has considerably more players than ou which needs teambuilding to be done to play. Personal opinion: good players on ladder in rands appear on 2k+ atleast

[@probablysam2744]

Honestly the hardest part about this was the short duration for some moves to be made

[@terryliu9015]

I like how freezai crabhammer gastrodon 5 times and gets triggered when the chat does it

[@Blissp]

Because if he didnt he would of lost either way..

[@R.P.Genocraft]

Crabhammer read in front of a Storm Drain mon? Chat learned it from the best of 'em 🔥🔥🔥 (Tho if you do this again it'd be cool if you made it so both mons' speed tiers are on screen all the time, I play randbats all the time and even then I always need to check them lol)

[@AlexandroGarcia6492]

I think chat should be given a bit more time to think their desicions

[@milkmolotov4167]

One way to improve the experience might be to filter move selections in the chat on the stream layout

[@inazuma-fulgur]

Chat has reached 1500 but we're still not very good

[@BushieHalf]

wisdom of the crowd experiment

[@icky_sticky_mars]

randbats tropius has a dragon dance set now? oh shit

[@furiouscorgi6614]

People got mad abt subseed being the only set

[@InvaltidWord]

hey freezai, what elos do you think represent different levels of player in randbats? if 1500 is average and 1200 is below average, what would be “noob”, or “bad”, or “good”?

[@kevinzhang8643]

based on my experience laddering, i’d say you start reaching “good” territory when you hit 1900+. from my observation players seem to understand positioning and risk/reward trade offs for making predictions. your average casual player probably sits around 1400-1800 ranges, hard to say though, since sometimes there’s also absolute geniuses that just don’t have the time to spend laddering and playing the game for that long. typically though, it’s where you see people start to use tera pretty well and also predict switches. i feel like 1200-1400 is a weird middle ground with people who are not “bad” but also not quite average. and then i think anything under 1200 could probably be considered similar to the skill level of a new player

[@misterme1134]

I wonder why YOUR CHAT would go for crabhammer with an adaptability Crawdaunt against a storm drain pokemon

[@Random_Person2]

There was another bug after killing a horoark where after the real mon came out that horo had disguised as, bot tried to use splash with enamorus instead of the move voted on. It was not very effective.

[@FreezaiPokemon]

Oh?! That is very weird, i'll have to look into it

[@Random_Person2]

@@FreezaiPokemon www.twitch.tv/freezaiyt/clip/SpikyAggressiveEmuMcaT-LqU_F1pDVvy6WHeB

[@Random_Person2]

Also at one point we were encored into 1st move, and using 3rd move barely won the vote over first, and I think bot did a random move and switched instead of doing the runner up vote of the encored move. being able to do runner up if winning vote is invalid might be a neat change.

[@vanesslifeygo]

That's the most emotion Cyrus has shown from the moment he... Wait, he didn't cry as a baby???

[@shadowdragun]

1500 is average? Since when?

[@chococroc5298]

This is awesome

[@Carnagemode]

Should have included the clip of chat critting milotic 4 the win

[@treverpontius2543]

This is an interesting way for me to find out I'm average...

[@adam5599]

great idea!

[@sawyer5072]

... You consider 1500 average I'm so cooked I've been playing for years now my best is not even 1400

[@erikcarp9359]

I mean if the top of the ladder is like 2400 and the bottom is 1000 I’d call 1700 average, halfway between them

[@drdca8263]

@@erikcarp9359average isn’t (min+max)/2. Actually, isn’t the mean ELO a constant? Because total ELO is conserved in each match?

[@skunkapestories4622]

It's average for the people who prioritize the game. If you have an actual life and showdown is an afterthought 1400 is fine

[@invisibilius1978]

@@skunkapestories4622 no think again I barely play anymore and my avg is like 1700. if it's this low you dont know mons or ur dumb

[@pyralockhart645]

You need 2 chats for commands and coordination

[@skyminoffline]

Twitch chat is cooked 😭😭

[@fogwzu]

Luck is a skill.

[@VOWARANT]

9:12 Excellent quote!

[@bananapickle]

revavroom kinda workin it at 4:55

[@egroeggany]

I think allowing text to speech could be really cool and let better players get their voice heard

[@HiggsBoson42]

I see that chat has listening to the machinations of the Dome Fossil far too often. In, all seriousness it would nice you could have a bot print the information the random battles plug-in gives in chat or displayed in some way.

[@shatterthineekey]

>randbats >fairest

[@yuhaoxin552]

Not me making a temp account and tryna stream snipe him 😂 (im 1900, unfortunately I failed)

[@glizzygobbler2810]

If 1500 is average and I’m above 2200 I’m above average 🗿

[@xdxd7908]

❤

[@triviszla1536]

I've seen AI smarter than chat

[@bossben22]

pog

[@haveagreatday6952]

Calling 1500 elo an avg team is pretty funny

[@skunkapestories4622]

It's based on inflated standards from the smogon forums, people who take showdown more seriously. If you're a casual player for whom showdown is an afterthought you're typically excluded from the discussion of skill

[@notsus3954]

Idk bro i think its about right

[@skittles1493]

interesting