Two Best Friends Play Silent Hill 2 (Part 12)

[@icuseriously3346]

I really respect this game for the way it handles tough subjects. So many horror games/ movies use sexual assault and or mental illness as cheap plot devices. You know, rape for drama, metal patients as monsters. It never feels exploitative here.

[@alexf8314]

That was very well said. I love that aspect of the story as well.

[@BreadandFaxes]

I wish I was a Metal Patient.

[@Shieldwall100]

Dweebenheim it's what happens when you come down with the sickness.

[@blakelynch5986]

@@Shieldwall100 nice.

[@ProgressiveBoink]

@@Shieldwall100 NICE

[@Eaglesolidus]

*Shoots Eddie 15 times with a rifle "Eddie? Eddie?"

[@keystrix3704]

"ARE YOU OKAY?"

[@badrapsample2212]

Key Strix If you can hear me, say something.

[@louiesalmon3932]

People die when they are killed.

[@sir_stride]

"I hope this isnt Eddies blood..."

[@sumfintodowithSkulls]

Key Strix Kung Lao and James would be the best doctors

[@Naruoc]

Plot twist: The dog was actually Eddie's main high school bully. This thought is actually hilarious to me. Like, just a regular Rottweiler on all fours wearing a leather jacket and having a lit cigarette stuck in his dumb drooling mouth. The dog just barks at nerds twice his size while they flinch and shy away on the verge of tears and the dog yucks it up.

[@Orphan_of_Kos_or_some_say_Kosm]

I wonder if Pat even noticed that Silent Hill is basically laughing at Eddie the whole time with Laura insulting him, the pizza in the bowling building and the upside-down hanged pig corpses with skirts in the boss fight zone (which are clearly supposed to represent fat guys). Maybe that's why he went nutter and nutter as the game progress. The town is basically doing what all those people he killed did to him.

[@grimoireweiss5203]

5 years later... Well Silent Hill is supposed to be a place where some people get drawn to. Our protagonists are going trough a journey to face their fears and feelings. There are other games but mainly SH2 gives a big hint that other characters are going trough something similar. I don't think it's a place that makes fun of one character but decided to give a trial to another. It judges everyone fairly but it's up to those people to succumb to it or face it. I feel like Eddie just sticks with his "run away from his problems" mentality. He just became a broken person and was unable to fix it. Like he even mentioned that "that dog was laughing at him". He became so twisted as the game went on that he switched form denying doing something bad to embracing it. Wish we had these kind of games but with AAA game quality and at least decent combat.

[@Tw0DrunkGuys]

@@grimoireweiss5203 I like to think that, along with Angela's "burning staircase", the "frozen meatlocker" is a glimpse into Eddie's experience of Silent hill. Angela was a victim of a crime of passion, symbolised by the fire. Burning down the childhood she never had. Living through it again in a hellish landscape. Eddie was bullied by a lot of people. Treated COLDLY you might say. He in turn, grew icy cold in his heart. He is tormented in a frozen wasteland. James..... well, I'll not spoil the story, but he was broken by his wife's disease. He percieved it as a rotting away of who she was, a decaying of their life together. James is suffering through a Silent Hill that is full of neglect, rot, and ruin.

[@papafrita3645]

@@grimoireweiss5203 i still prefer the theory that the town is predatory and doesn't give a shit about being everyone's personal psychiatrist, but rather feed from their personal and mental problems, often driving them to death

[@KF-hf4nt]

The ending to this LP should be plague sitting in a chair in a room full of monitors explaining the plot to matt and pat ala the matrix reloaded

[@DeltaOmegaX]

Every Eddie Sequence Ever: "THAT KILLS PEOPLE, KARRRRL!"

[@randomfox12245]

Also, I dispute that Eddie killed the dog "cuz he's a sociopath" he clearly felt guilty about it, as evidence from the scene in the bowling ally. He explicitly says "the cops aren't after me.... no one would ever forgive me." He ran to Silent Hill because he was scared and ashamed. It's only AFTER he's been in the town and being exposed to its horrors that he SNAPS and is now claiming psychopathic enjoyment by the time of this boss.

[@MegaMiniMuffins]

Eddie is such an underrated character... most people don't sympathize with him at all, and even though he suffered probably the least out all three of the guilty characters, I still felt bad for him. It didn't really help that the developers made you have to fight him though :p

[@NefariousDreary]

***** I agree. He still has his demons.

[@badrapsample2212]

Vinny Raptor You mean he's already a demon.

[@tank7013]

The way he acts makes me think that he didn't feel guilty about killing the dog and shooting that guy, but rather that he felt guilty for enjoying it, and his experience in Silent Hill caused him to embrace it.

[@PureMetalDragon]

***** It's not sociopathy or psycopathy. I don't know the english term because my criminology classes were in french (it would translate to criminal thinking). In these type of people, the escalation of violence follows a predictable circle: the subject believes himself to be in control until something or someone makes him feel diminished and then takes the position of the victim, leading to anger and finally violence in order to return to a state of control. As these cycles repeat, we see a corrosion of internal dissuasive system: the subject feels more and more justified and has less and less remorse, and lose empathy toward their victims (Eddie goes from puking, to just shooting people at the slightest provocation). Subjects are also known to be unreasonably optimist (eating pizza in the middle of a town full of monsters), be egocentered (meaning they'll take care of what they need at the present moment, without being able to predict or care for the consequences of their acts) and be thrill seekers, who sometime commit crime for the fun of it (Which may explain why Eddie killed the dog). I'm not saying that Eddie was born evil, it's just that this combined with the bullying turned him into what he is, and he never took the chance to break the cycle before it was too late.

[@KaisN]

Sigh, Pat. What are we gonna do with you? He kills the dog of the bully who bullied him most of his school life, and then the bully comes after him, after revenge for his dog. Eddie shoots the bully in the leg, and flees to Silent Hill. He feels incredibly guilty about the things he's done at the start, but the longer he spends in Silent Hill, the more apathetic and disjointed he becomes, until... well. This.

[@frankficcle7081]

Also the Great Knife does not kill Eddie instantly, it just does a lot of damage.

[@DjFluffyCuban]

He mentions in the bowling alley that he hurt others before coming to Silent Hill, and that the cops are after him for this. Plus killing animals at a young age is common for serial killers, which Eddie clearly is meant to emulate.

[@maximutatro3176]

@@DjFluffyCuban but he also explicitly says that it wasn’t murder

[@felipeguidolin1055]

Stop being a freakin cry baby, James!!! When Woolie killed all those people he didn't shed a single tear!!! Not a single tear!!!

[@MTGallosaurusfan]

He even kicked a puppy,lied about it and ate a pie afterward as he sunk back into his hole.

[@Abon666]

diablospyro So Woolie is actually Eddie?

[@MTGallosaurusfan]

Abon666 Eddie is the white version of Woolie.

[@OldIronJohnson]

diablospyro *Kicked a puppy, lied about it to another puppy, and ate a puppy afterward as he sunk into a puppy.

[@lonesavior]

diablospyro Wasn't there something about a bidet, and Grandma Swamp?

[@_Francis_York_Morgan]

Matt, I'm looking forward to Kickstarting that David Cage amateur gunfight game. I think I'll call it... *puts on sunglasses* ...Cage Match.

[@slifer875]

you just got caged!!!

[@PureMetalDragon]

Cage match sounds like a good concept. As selectable characters you get David Cage, Johnny Cage and of course Nic Cage.

[@GrugGangGrugGang]

PureMetalDragon What about boss character Luke? Woolie needs a character to main.

[@_Francis_York_Morgan]

Can't forget Luke Cage. Soundtrack by John Cage because why the fuck not, let's go AVANT-GARDE.

[@Crazimo]

Don't forget about Christian Cage! The wrestler!

[@obermegalutschoar]

It's very clearly implied that he killed the dog of one of his bullies to get revenge, not for no reason. From the way he earlier said that the dog "walked all over" him, too, suggests that the bully might have actually used the dog to intimidate Eddie. Matt and Pat are very obviously oversimplifying Eddie's motivation. Eddie is also disqualified from being a psychopath because he super evidently has a very low opinion of himself. Psychopaths generally think very highly of themselves.

[@obermegalutschoar]

It's also very possible that Eddie didn't actually kill anyone. He suggests that the person outside the locker room is someone he knew for years. Why would that person be in Silent Hill?

[@obermegalutschoar]

***** His killing James is no indication that he killed actual people. They LOOK like people and he BELIEVES he killed people, but that does not mean that it's actually true. That's an important distinction.

[@KazulTheSelkie]

I want to tell you guys how deeply thankful I am about you being so thoughtful of Angela and her situation. Sympathy for victims of sexual abuse is super scarce basically everywhere, so hearing you speaking respectfully of what she's been through (even when it's just talking about the symbolism surrounding the boss room) means a lot. Thank you.

[@Sprech41]

Fun fact: those slabs of hanging meat happen to look a lot like Eddie. And that's not meant as an insult, they have like the EXACT same silhouette. Especially with that weird cloth hanging down that looks like pants

[@mohawklogan]

So pat was 14 in 1998 AND 2001!? Pat has to be a time traveler, nothing else could possibly explain this!

[@boheyo]

Some people are just 28 for a while okay, turning 30 is some heavy shit and you shouldn't do it until you're ready or incapable of convincing anyone you're in your twenties anymore.

[@BigPaja]

While Guy Cihi is not the best voice actor out there, the way he repeated the line "a human being..." was pretty adequate for the game's purposes.

[@templar19]

I've played SH2 at least 4 times, and I've never felt so much sympathy for Angela as I did when Pat gave that chilling analysis of the Abstract Daddy room. Also, sure hope they give Mary's letter another read soon. *hint hint*

[@gtaIVlord]

Pat deserves a _pat_ on the back... He may makes mistakes, but he understands a few- _wait, what the hell is he doing? Why is he pulling all the nooses?!_ Maria wasn't shot in the face, much less by Eddie, cause, you know, she doesn't exist to him. And you missed Walter's grave, too. Pat, you're awesome. I really understand your excitement when talking about this series. It is so great... And I don't care about the mistakes you make, I've seen much worse.

[@Sanatielify]

I honestly believe pat is dumb enough to miss the text next to the poem explaining the logic of the puzzle.

[@mastermarkus5307]

I'll give him the puzzle and missing Walter's grave, but thinking Eddie had anything to do with Maria is a weird mistake.

[@Tamacat388]

It's nice to see ignorant Matt get something right about the games story over Pat once in a while.

[@randomfox12245]

that and the comments about Eddie. He snapped and became psychotic AFTER coming to silent hill, he wasn't unhinged and violent like this BEFORE. Just lots of fail all around this episode.

[@mastermarkus5307]

randomfox How do you know he wasn't unhinged and violent before? There are a lot of implications that he at least _did_ actually kill that dog.

[@NARATO0]

"Only kill someone if there trying to kill you" LIKE THAT RED POWER RANGER !

[@Tamacat388]

What's with all the death in nerd culture lately? Jeez

[@vyxxer]

Hey, what do you say to a girl who likes Silent Hill on Valentines day? Point at your chest and say "There was a hole here, it's gone now."

[@vyxxer]

The Pickles The Reedus Fetus on a card that says "You've been chosen." and that's how you announce the pregnancy.

[@spencersdh1]

Tony Gonzales I have never heard it called the Reedus Fetus. That makes me chuckle.

[@NefariousDreary]

That's pretty Damn good :D

[@joinsideke]

_Awww._

[@pawouapproval984]

damn

[@KenChanNoodleStream]

Killing Eddie was an innocent crime, like punching someone in the dark...

[@joeywildman1100]

Ken Samps Is that a reverence to something?

[@MonsieurBig]

@@joeywildman1100 which reference?

[@djdexcat]

For some reason I always imagine that exchange with Eddie happening in a tabletop RPG or something. "Okay, I try to talk Eddie down!" [Rolls a 1] "Fuck."

[@ChrisDaPatriot]

"And a corpse can't laugh" Best Eddie line confirmed.

[@JMarsella9]

Wow, I made the exact same mistake when I first did the noose puzzle. Don't feel bad Pat, it happens.

[@Tamacat388]

Cue everyone giving him shit anyways for a mistake half the people playing the game make because you have no way of knowing that smaller sign is readable let alone necessary to complete the puzzle.

[@KnightofDarkSorrow]

Cryaotic is playing Silent Hill 2 as well and his most recent video he did the noose puzzle and he also pulled all 6 under the same logic... yet somehow he was rewarded. It's something I don't understand why it worked.

[@ryangallagher8194]

KnightofDarkSorrow I did the same. It's because the correct one is the last one of the six listed, so even if you solve it incorrectly like they did the first time, as long as you get the order right you WILL pull arson last. And that's all the game registers. But they went over to another and gave it a yank to test.

[@ryangallagher8194]

***** Yup. I never even SAW that note, only heard about it after I was done. Thought I did it right, ha.

[@AydarBMSTU]

JMarsella9 you both need to feel bad

[@manabluerose]

I want a David Cage and Matt battle so bad now. The area has to be a market. They can fight their way through chickens into the meat locker freezer.

[@ruggedlemmings9163]

I think what makes this section so creepy is, as Pat pointed out a bunch, the fact that the place you're in can't actually exist. You just keep going down, down, and down some more into absolute darkness. Even creepier than the prison are the corridors you're walking through towards the end of the section. Normal looking walls, old-fashioned wooden tiled floors, again: the all consuming darkness. Add to it the fact that you get to witness the personal hells for Angela and Eddie (considering Eddie is surrounded by bodies when you find him, I can only imagine that everywhere he looks there's someone insulting him). This is hell done right in a game: atmospheric and mind-bending. When you compare it to Homecoming or Downpour where you're literally taken to some lava inferno factory or flooded prison, respectively, and it really highlights how less is more when it comes to the visual design.

[@inferno232]

"Ohhhh I killed a human being, this weight will stick with me for the rest of my da-I wonder if my wife's really dead." *wanders outside* James... James, that's... You're trying to act like a regular person but you really aren't, are you? Also, why can't you take Eddie's gun? Is it, like, bound to his soul? Will using it compel you to eat pizza and shoot at people who look at you funny?

[@SolidMike84]

ID tagged soldier, carrying ID tagged weapon, nanopizza inside his body. War has changed.

[@TwiggyJack]

Hahaha

[@GSunification]

*MAYBE VAGUE SPOLIER????* Let's just say in that context, Jame's thoughts aren't as weird as you think it is.

[@inferno232]

Honestly? I sorta *know*. I'm just sort of putting myself in the mindset of someone who HASN'T had this game completely spoiled for him. Makes this LP much better. I still don't know why he didn't take the revolver, though. Maybe it was powered by how much pizza you consumed.

[@MasterBDG701]

It's super effective on dog types.

[@fahr]

eddie's voice acting is fantastic

[@WolfTeen2010]

O if whoever did Mary/Maria was the best, the guy that did Eddie is easily right after. That "Killing a person ain't no big deal" line delivery from earlier was chilling

[@cometome255]

MaelMakingMothersbaugh I really like the delivery of Angela's whole stairway on fire "you see it too? It's always like this for me" monologue. Ack, so good.

[@KMS2K]

It's a big leap in quality from the characters his voice actor voiced in T.R.A.G/Hard Edge

[@TheGraveyarder]

oh man eddie's script was getting interesting but "lets party" just fucking killed it for me

[@clockworkNate]

I thought it worked for him. He is crazy after all lol.

[@davidsilverman3794]

Woolie's Silent Hill would just be a ton of Daigos beating the shit out of him and then walking away like it ain't no big thang

[@davidsilverman3794]

i'd play that

[@TheMerkWithTheMouth]

If and when someone makes the Super Best Friends character-action game, I demand that the David Cage boss battle take place in a meat locker. And you have to dodge the QTE prompts that he throws at you (that's right, he straight-up throws prompts at you). And before the fight, the cutscene is a shower-scene. With supernatural ghost shit. For no raisin.

[@CallMeFreakFujiko]

James: "Eddie, you're crazy!" Eddie: "DON'T CALL ME FAT!"

[@bloodyidit4506]

That bit at the hanging rope is framed to look like james is going to put the rope on his neck, because his chin moves upward a bit, as if to imply that he's about to put his head in it. considering the In Water ending, this shit is foreshadowing in that case and creepy shit everywhere else.

[@thegamemechanic187]

In Eddie's Monologue... he used the wrong your. "It doesn't matter if your smart, dumb, ugly or pretty". That's the wrong one. Dammit. My attention to this kind of stuff is killing me.

[@GrAvYxxBooN]

This actually bothered me so much when I noticed it on my first playthrough.

[@faceless_man566]

i have never felt more drawn to watching a game being played, I feel like i need to play the game myself cause holy god this game looks good

[@GreenGimmick]

It is. Go play it.

[@faceless_man566]

i dont have a ps2 sadly, i have a xbox 360 and a laptop, any way to avoid the hd collection there?

[@GreenGimmick]

You could get the original Xbox version of Silent Hill 2. Doesn't play great on the 360 but it will work and you won't have to support the trash that is the HD collection. But you can probably get a PS2 and a copy of the game for less than the price of a new game.

[@Chadius]

Nicholas Ohmann I should dig up my PS2 and find a copy of this on EBay.

[@GreenGimmick]

Heck yeah you should

[@SteeScribbles]

Two words about the Eddie scene in the HD Collection version. WIND CHIMES

[@Boots43096]

i like how james knows how absurd maria's constant appearance is but he still takes it seriously enough to get sad when she randomly dies twice for no reason.

[@BornRemaining]

Abstract Daddy, also known as Ideal Father, is a monster James Sunderland encounters in Silent Hill 2. It is a manifestation of Angela Orosco's traumatic memories of her father, Thomas Orosco, or brother, raping and sexually abusing her on a bed. James first faces this monster as a boss near the end of the Labyrinth, while smaller, weaker, variants can be found later on in the Lakeview Hotel. The Abstract Daddy appears as two figures lying on a bed, covered in a "blanket" of putrid skin, with the two forms apparently having intercourse. The two figures seem to be trapped in a rectangular board, with the "male" or upper figure's arms and legs dangling out the bottom. On the bottom of the monster is a long vertical slit. It moves on all fours, and the lower portion of the beast has the appearance of a bed with four posts. The Abstract Daddy represents Angela's father, Thomas Orosco, and/or brother, hanging over her on a bed.[2] This is highly suggestive of the abuse she took from them. It is also noted that the figure beneath screams in torment, which is likely another representation of Angela's abuse, while their "mouths" resemble a vaginal orifice, further implying sexual abuse. The room the monster is fought in represents Angela's uterus. On the fleshy walls of the room are holes with pistons making thrusting motions, akin to a penis thrusting in and out of a vagina. These further evoke Angela's perspective of her rape: a mechanical, unescapable inhuman experience. It is possible every piston is symbolic of how many times she was molested (23). Later in the game, smaller versions of the boss monster make an appearance at the Lakeview Hotel, which may be an indication/foreshadowing to the player that Angela may be in the hotel somewhere. The smaller variants may also be representative of Angela's brother, while the bigger and stronger boss model is "Thomas". Another possible theory is that it represents abusive masculinity, in that James (SPOILER omitted), while she was in bed. This may be why both Angela and James can see the monster, as they are both involved with the mentality at hand. ~Official Silent Hill Wikia

[@BornRemaining]

The Silent Hill 2 BradyGames strategy guide by Dan Birlew erroneously refers to Abstract Daddy as "Doorman". However, this makes no sense because Abstract Daddy is meant to resemble a bed, not a door. "Doorman" is not used in any other guides.

[@jacklitterini]

Man i miss you guys

[@LordQuadros]

Yes, let's ask the dangerously insane man with the gun if he's gone nuts. Maybe James' suicidal thoughts bleed over into his conversational skills.

[@Mr_Diddles]

James is killing all the better voice actors so people won't notice how bad he is.

[@AydarBMSTU]

Mr Diddles this isn't hd collection version, so you are wrong

[@Toffeehammer]

Man, I would LOVE to see Matt and David Cage have a big old showdown. You can do it, Matt. We're all with you.

[@ceronosibex6390]

And it's revealed that Eddie is the guy you play as in Duck Hunt.

[@tonlito22]

This man was hung for the crime of calling Abstract Daddy "Doorman". Doorman. Door Man.

[@flamethrowerdude]

It is Donna Burke voicing Angela, she even made a song dedicated to the character called no one can save me.

[@repyukJC]

this really is the best LP that's come out of this channel in terms of quality, I like the effort Pat's putting into this. I'd really love to see a Pat solo LP some time, I keep thinking back to that catch-up episode from The Evil Within let's play, the Pat solo commentary was real cool I like seeing him be calm and informative from time to time.

[@inactive9544]

For those that may not understand: Eddie shot the dog in the gut, and the searing burn of the bullet panicked the dog into desperately wanting it out, so it tried to rip it from its guts until it realized the act was useless.

[@AydarBMSTU]

OnlyThePurpleFruitLoops where do you get this stuff from?

[@CharlieFoHammer]

[95% of videogames] "This is a terrible pile of shit. This failed to reach my lowest expectations." [Laughably clunky boss fight against a fat douche in a subterranean meat locker] "This gets a pass."

[@jmorel42]

It's like Matt with No More Heros. Everyone has their biases. But I agree if Pat was playing this game blind he would have shitted on a lot of things about this game

[@boheyo]

That's like the difference between some douche totaling his Lambo in a school zone and NASA losing contact with Beagle II.

[@Levio100]

This boss fight is over in 1 minute, while many games force you to trudge through BS for hours. That's a big factor.

[@NoName-mq5qy]

15:42 Many horror games today would have that shot with either dreading music or no music, then after staring at the corpse for long enough have the corpse jump/open eyes/hard cut to a shot overlooking James' shoulder to show something just behind him. But this game knows what it wants. It doesn't want to just scare you like many horror games. I myself have never played this game. But given what I've seen so far. I like to believe this game wants to tell me a story. And I'm still enjoying the ride Mr. Bones.

[@kami12kaze87]

Oh hey look! legit puzzles! I watched the whole Homecoming playlist and it had nothing but variations of "see lock, find key, use on lock" types of things and pass them off as "puzzles".

[@bunnygirle26]

I am loving these episodes. They are a lot of fun to watch.

[@5267851k]

"tht dog was walking all over him" lol mat awesome

[@TheKrawtch]

Silent Hill *would* have a graveyard a mile below the surface. You gotta bury these bodies after you bury em.

[@koquarian]

*Insert Xzibit joke here*

[@TheKrawtch]

Kenpachi Ramasama and then *insert Xzibit into underground grave because dat how Silent Hill roll*

[@YZKyleXY]

"...and a corpse can't laugh" is a pretty badass quote if you ask me. It could probably be used in better ways, but this was still pretty awesome to me.

[@GreyGaymer]

From my understanding (and I'm sure other people have commented this as well) The dog Eddie killed most likely belonged to the kid bullying him, and he killed the dog as a way to get revenge, then shot the actual bully once he showed up. It doesn't justify it at all, but it does give him at least a flimsy motive and direction, rather than targeting a random dog to take his aggression out on.

[@Chadius]

This game's writing is incredible, by the way. I'm not joking or being sarcastic here. The dialogue feels like it's missing something, but you don't know what, exactly.

[@Mythoriir]

That David Cage reference hahaha. I lost it there. Something I can't understand is how anyone made fun of you guys. You guys are hilarious. When I was in high school I played protector. No one fucked with me and if anyone tried starting something with my friends I stepped in. So I would of busted some heads for you, haha. You guys are around the same age as me and even tho I don't know a lot of the anime references you guys drop, it still makes me laugh. Keep doing amazing work, friends.

[@diovarela1215]

I can sympathize with Eddie for snapping after being bullied but killing a dog just makes him a piece of shit. It seems more like he's using the fact that he was bullied as an excuse to kill people and get away with it inside his head.

[@xTimeswordx]

Thank you based Zaibatsu! Right when dinner finished cooking, something to watch!

[@Whienzarth]

Pat's catchphrases throughout the years. "It's True." "Yeah, well..." "Yeah, a little bit." And I laugh everytime I hear them.

[@leonoradunbar4370]

this playthrough has really made me realize how much i love pat. matt is amazing too but pat is just there are no words

[@RaKeisu]

That entire scene with Eddie during the second half of the fight looked...amazing. Almost theatrical.

[@press_x_tojason]

"Look at how extreme this subject matter is! And it's handled WELL!" Glad we've got Bloober Team on the remake...

[@chriswolfe351]

I love how excited Pat is to be playing this game.

[@UrobourosZero]

I'm really glad they played on Normal Riddle Mode because the Dead Men puzzle riddle is the best riddle of all of Silent Hill, I think.

[@CAGEDSQUAD]

Mat and Pat pls just pls do more silent hill pls do silent hill 3 because i love your silent hill playthroughs because they are amazing

[@timthechef9242]

Its very fun that 7 years after this Woolie would also miss the smaller sign and just pull every noose. The best part is that because of the order theyre written in if you do just pull every noose in order of crimes listed you'll pull the right one last and think you did it right.

[@obblivionkr]

It's pretty dark if you imagine that most players would look down on Eddie through the game, even up to this point, when Eddie fights you. Maybe James wouldn't think like that, but you, as players, do look down on Eddie.

[@VoltageXXII]

Wow. I'm stunned. Pat was the first to slip up and talk during a cutscene.

[@Sucy1776]

The boat warning sign isn't for prisoners, it's for Kenny. Kenny's stuck there too. Everything is the exact same as what James sees only instead of Mary, it's just a floating boat.

[@BLK_MN]

Love that Plague-like "amazing"

[@kahir8642]

I can't even blame him because I did the exact same thing the first time I played this, but boy is that puzzle painful to watch when you know the solution. I'm having flashbacks of how long it took me to solve that. Edit: Oh thank goodness, you figured it out quickly. You're a bright young man, Pat.

[@MadamFoogie]

the dead men puzzle! I loved it so much that I can recite it. What an amazing delivery for a puzzle.

[@Tekh09]

Woolie is not black. It's Liam. It was Liam all along.

[@nubilepro]

WE ALL BOUGHT IT!

[@slifer875]

tell that to the dorito..

[@Stantasio]

I like how even Eddie basically pointed out that this silent hill pulled in murderers. (James/Eddie/Angela) so there's more weight when he acts like "your here for a reason buddy"

[@icuseriously3346]

I'm glad that last part is over with. That was a bad fucking time right there.

[@KajetSeifert]

I just watched the entire playlist for this game (or what there is of it as of this time) and while the game itself is unsettling I think the most... eerie part is how mellow Pat is.

[@PublicEnemy04]

We're finally out of the Woolie hole. ....dammit. And man had I forgotten how amazing this game is.

[@maroaltera4639]

25:03. The dramatic impact of James Tebowing in sorrow is truly astounding.

[@HikaruHikariKage]

Hearing about how that dog died broke my heart. Poor thing. also this applies to the last video but I might as well make note of it here -- James repeatedly trying to touch Angela, even trying to comfort her, shows what a shmuck he is. Like you'd think, after she freaked out that first time, that he'd remember and not try to do it again. ALSO on the subject of self defense -- the Canadian Criminal code excuses self defense as justification only to a certain extent. You can only defend yourself in proportion to what the situation calls for, so be careful.

[@TheDirtbaggrif]

Sure, Pat, it's the game that is messing with your ability to solve simple puzzles.

[@finalcord4662]

On using the Great Knife in the fight with Eddie: It doesn't end the fight, but it does immediately push Eddie into the next phase, in the meat refrigerator.

[@Immoral_Shrimp]

Pat, you missed Walter's grave.

[@FirelordHouses]

I really love the way Eddi's story plays out, because James never makes fun of him or anything, but when Eddie accuses him of doing it, you realize you probably did it in your own head whenever you saw him...... or maybe I'm just a terrible person.

[@JVarley9001]

The grammatical error in Eddie's subtitles really threw me off.

[@Tamacat388]

Well...you see it's symbolic of Eddies stupidity. It adds to the scene and allows the player to see how far off the deep end Eddie has gone.

[@JVarley9001]

The "yer" I understand, it's the "your" when he should have had a "you're" that bothers me. I could see it that way, but that's a pretty big lean on the Fourth Wall.

[@Tamacat388]

Eh, I was just joking anyway. Playing the "all errors are just symbolism" card that Silent Hill fans like to play now and then.

[@JVarley9001]

That is a card I was not aware of. --------------------------------* THE MORE YOU KNOW

[@RipOffProductionsLLC]

Mr. Creazil I knew this card existed, but have only ever seen it deployed in Evangelion related discussions... God do Eva fans love pulling "but that's how it's SAPOST to be! It's part of the DEEP and MEANINGFUL symbolism of the story!" when ever anyone criticizes the show/manga/movies.

[@Thecrazybrads]

Did that boss fight just play out like a really bad version of the fight between Revolver Ocelot and Solid Snake in MGS1? Ya know with Eddie using the Colt Single Action Army Revolver and James and Eddie running around shooting eachother in a boxed in style room... No? Just me? Ok...

[@CharlieRaspin]

Eddie's subtitles spelled "you're" as "your". My immersion is /shattered/.

[@fluidwolf]

I think Maria looked like she was smothered. Also Im not sure if i had posted this in an earlier part but during the nighttime section if you go back to where the radio was you will find that it is blocked off with police tape

[@Grubbo]

Maybe she OD'd. Barfed up blood all over the bed, then fell down onto it and died.

[@SerbianKnifeFight]

Grubbo I know this should be sad, but something about how quickly I read that made it almost comical.

[@PoisonedPocky]

UnbreakableJames Mary (and Maria, by extension) suffered from a form of melanoma that caused the skin to rot from the inside out.

[@WFoong98]

PoisonedPocky Damn, is it the same inspiration for those monsters in Silent Hill 3 too?

[@BreadandFaxes]

Pyramid head killed Maria. I get where you're going, but the blood doesn't coincide.

[@zoobyzoob]

11:48, and why would it? There's no part in this game where you're far enough away from a target for spread to matter. Maybe everyone's just use to the unrealistic depiction of shotguns.

[@M7S4I5L8V2A]

Slug rounds might have existed at that time

[@Chadius]

zoobyzoob Yeah. Shotguns have a ninety degree spread but a range of 10 feet, you know?

[@zoobyzoob]

Michael Silva That would only further its accuracy and my point.

[@ShinZmMusic]

A shotgun's spread is defined by three factors: 1. Barrel Length 2. Presence of/type of barrel choke (these can be internal and thus, not visible) 3. Shot type/Gauge. The go-to ammo for defense is either 00 or 000 Buckshot, which is usually 7 large pellets with a larger amount of gunpowder. Assuming Jame's is using that - even without a choke - The spread of that shotgun isn't going to be terribly noticeable until about 25-30 yards. (educated guess). 9 times out of 10, shotguns defy reality in video games. XD

[@zoobyzoob]

ShinZmMusic I was basically going to post this in my original comment but I'm glad you summed it up to. I can only think of a few games off the top of my head that treat shotguns in a near realistic way at all.

[@yoursonisold8743]

When James walked to Eddie and called his name I could only think of that Kung Lao scene in the Mortal Kombat LP where he asked a monk that was just brutally murdered "Are you okay?" And so did Matt.

[@Wanderer835]

To be fair if a dog started laughing at me I would probably go a little crazy myself.

[@AussieDragoon]

Fun Fact: Eddie voice actor in this game also voices Bryan Fury!

[@SpadeHand]

Don't feel bad about the hanged men, Pat. I was always curious what the "wondrously strange" punishment was, but no way in Hell I was gonna risk getting it wrong to find out.

[@gaminggoddess85]

SpadeHand I was always afraid getting it wrong would spawn a Pyramid Head in the hallway.

[@touchingisjustthefirststep]

I know this is late but Pat is so wrong about Eddie shooting maria when everybody except James can't see Maria...

[@sinisteroglop]

I'd just like to say that I'm re-watching the Downcoming playthrough at the same time as this, and seeing the best and worst Silent Hill has to offer is an almost religious experience.

[@seveneyes77]

Looks like Eddie writes KZbin comments.

[@Zato2009]

Eddie didnt shoot maria....pat continues to make up shit as usual :P

[@felixlucky13]

INTRO/OUTRO SONG: Theme of Laura (Reprise) Because some shitlord will ask eventually.

[@awkwardpendulum]

The Best Friends almost have 500,000 subscribers!

[@WateringCan]

The god damn lighting in the Eddie parts is sooooooo good.

[@PandoraOrosco]

god damn it, first Cry solving the puzzle incorrectly, now you guys xDD still enjoying these vids so much, would be awesome to see you guys do SH3