Two Best Friends Play Silent Hill 2 (Part 4)

[@culturesh0ck280]

"I'm not aiming for a specific ending" *examines specific items that need to be examined for a specific ending*

[@TheDirtbaggrif]

Well, he has intentionally done a few things required to avoid that ending. I bet we'll see him waste a bunch of time in the next episode, counting toward the third ending.

[@mastermarkus5307]

Nemesis He seems to be playing it like I played it, but checking the items more. I got the In Water ending my first time, but only time will tell what the future holds for Matt and Pat.

[@kaebeelee]

I could also tell Angela was abused by the constant apologizing.

[@matthewleclair3189]

Another detail I noticed was that as soon as James asked if Angela's mother lived in Silent Hill (which I think most people would find is a reasonable assumption), she immediately becomes very suspicious of how James would know about that, showing some insight into how her abuse led to her developing a natural distrust of men. In her own anxiety/racing thoughts, she thought the only way he could possibly know about that is if he stalked her, and the only reason he'd stalk her is... well, y'know.

[@KageMinowara]

@Kaebee Is that a sign of someone who's been abused?

[@kate7896]

another thing that clued to abuse was her getting defensive when she thought James didn’t believer her. Victims tend to be accused of lying, especially in domestic sexual abuse cases

[@Ankylosaurus_mangiventris]

KageMinowara Yes because people who’ve been abused sometimes can always apologize as they fear they’ve done something wrong as if they did with their abuser, bad things would happen. So they’re apologizing out of habit to avoid that, pretty much. It’s actually a common thing. I’ve sadly seen it in a few people in my time.

[@kierancampire]

Hey, someone who's been through that and lives with/has many friends that have, all these comments are yeah, telling a truth to abuse and how it affects people, i know i relate to a lot of these things Another side to the apologising thing that no one has said, but i myself and most other people i know of share, is thatwe apologise out of guilt, we all think that we did something to deserve the abuse, that the abuse was correct in their actions, they were only doing it because they care, they wouldn't do it if we didn't do *insert blank*, so apologising comes from that Also, more so commonly with people who have experienced sexual abuse as a child they can have a childish personality/switch, and a few times she has exhibited childlike mannerisms which can point to that It's scary/sad/good the attention to detail and how realistic they made it with these subtle indications

[@JandJandJandJandJ]

"I'm going for whatever ending we get" *bumps super hard into Maria the second he gains control around her*

[@davidrichardson3514]

"Let's just take a look at Mary's pic real quick" EVERY. SINGLE. TIME PAT GOES INTO THE INVENTORY.

[@EdanR]

I love how awkward and unnatural the dialogue and voice acting is. Really makes everything just feel off; a good sense of the uncanny.

[@Chadius]

Edan R Yeah, I'm really enjoying this voice acting. I don't know if they did it on purpose or not (voice acting never got gud until the early 360 era), but the quality helps lend to how off center this entire plot is.

[@joeysingingchannel]

That right there is a chunk of why the new games just didn't work as well. The Downpour/Homecoming characters were all too normal or overtly strange/silly. In SH2, every scene with Angela and James feels like it's missing two or three lines of dialogue between each line, so it's basically like watching two institutionalized people talking. It's really unsettling and masterful. You get the ethos of everything unsaid between the lines that are said. I've read novels worth of character analysis on this game. Compare that to the likes of Josh or Murphy? You just can't.

[@LaithKhalil]

Joey's Singing Channel it is a case of "so bad it's good". I really doubt these characters have or were intended to have a ton of depth, but the fact that there are so many holes in their background and story begs the question of might be there. The new games were just trying to fix an objective flaw in the old games (shitty voice acting) but lost that " it's not a bug but a feature" quality of bad voice acting.

[@joeysingingchannel]

In some cases it might have been a case of Japanese translation, but I don't think there's any "bad" voice acting here. The goal was to be surreal, and they did it. And when every creature (minus the bugs) was meticulously made to be a reflection on James's psyche, I don't think you're giving the rest of the game enough credit. It's really not by accident this is a survival horror masterpiece.

[@Y2Jarlath]

***** What about Metal Gear Solid? It had great voice acting.

[@KnightofDarkSorrow]

"Not going for any particular ending" *constantly checks Mary's picture*

[@farmzombie]

I love the voice acting in this game. James comes off as totally normal, masking all the crazy going on in his head. Everything about Angela's voice is vulnerable and erratic with a hint of childlike, making her deeply off-putting, but also sympathetic. She's an unstable adult, but parts of her mind are stunted at the emotional level of a child.

[@suwatsaksri7191]

Better than The Evil Within where every voice is soooo serious to the point of being boring, I HATE THE WANNABE GRUFF BATMAN VOICES!

[@darrelsam419]

Suwat Saksri To be fair I was giggling at some points of Sebastian's dialogs because of how overly serious he ended up being, to the point of hilarity. I did enjoy the game, but I agree the voices were borderline ridiculous at many points.

[@suwatsaksri7191]

Dawn Darrell Samaitha Sebbies best line was "what the fuck?!?" to Joseph

[@darrelsam419]

Suwat Saksri Oh yes, that's one of em. Any time he expresses, or tries to express, disbelief or annoyance I start cracking up.

[@ShadowWolf936]

Suwat Saksri WHERE IS SHE MY WIFE SHES DEAD?!?! BUT THE LETTERS?!!?!!

[@hoaxslayer4244]

Pyramid Head has an auto-tracking overhand swing that one shots, confirmed for Dark Souls 2 boss.

[@elliew6765]

nah, not generic and boring enough

[@Grabehn42]

But he needs some ARMOR though, eh? EH?

[@elliew6765]

***** He either needs to be a bad reference to Dark Souls 1 because the designers have no creativity and for him to have absolutely no place in the lore, OR he needs to get rid of the pyramid head, put on some [standard fantasy armour] and share the exact same moveset as every other boss

[@GrugGangGrugGang]

Ellie Williams Nah, he was meant to have a AOE explosion and a enrage, but they could not figure out how to code it into SH2. Pyramid Head confirmed for smelting.

[@Bupernox]

Chuck Testa Nah, Pyramid Head still needs that generic Ornstein and Smough kind of music that every goddamn boss in DaS2 has.

[@TheDirtbaggrif]

Man, Maria is such a good character. I think she's an even better character than Pyramid Head in their symbolism. PH to me is much more heavy handed, as far as heavy handedness goes in this game. Spoilers, maybe. Pyramid Head is James guilt after what he did to Mary and it represents the way James punishes himself. That's about all he is, a totem for his guilt. Maria, on the other hand, is his guilt from before Mary died. It's Silent Hill rubbing in his face, like, "Oh, this is what you wanted, right? This is who you wanted Mary to be but instead you got the sick invalid." James is constantly being asked whether he really loved Mary or if he will continue to be selfish. It's cool how the story adapts to this. If you spend a lot of time with Maria instead of searching for Mary, James ends up being selfish and leaving with Maria. God this is such a good game.

[@Tuschi17]

The opening music gets me super pumped to listen to "Pat's soothing serious voice™".

[@BenCarmine21]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3fZpWWZg7iCl68 The entire soundtrack.

[@EpicShadow26]

What is that opening music anyways, I've never played this game.

[@michaelelmes2135]

EpicShadow26 a song from the soundtrack called "promise (reprise)" the entire soundtrack is phenomenal, and that goes for any silent hill game.

[@michaelelmes2135]

michael elmes shit no its theme of laura reprise. My bad

[@Ganerumo]

michael elmes The opening theme is not the Promise reprise.

[@pyrotechnicstars]

rewatching this lp. i miss them.

[@Goatllama]

I always say that when pyramid head leaves he just drinks the water, he's thirsty after chasing James around.

[@joeysingingchannel]

It's hot as a motherfucker inside that helmet. I like your addition to the lore. Also PH's rarest attack in throttling James and hitting him with a tentacle/sucker thing from inside the helmet. That tentacle can be the sippy straw.

[@Goatllama]

Joey's Singing Channel He does that during the first fight?? Damn! I don't know if I've ever seen that.

[@joeysingingchannel]

I'm sure you can find the animation in someone's playthru on youtube. It's rare, but it happens. It's just not many people would (for good reason) try to face fuck Pyramidhead during the boss fight.

[@McMeatBag]

I always felt so relieved whenever a door said "locks broken" when I played

[@Hulksmasher1995]

I have never played any silent hill game, only really heard that this one is the best. I have to say, this music during cut scenes is fucking amazing. That piano stuff during Angela's scene was god like

[@AugustusCeasar12]

It's so weird. I've never heard Pat talk to Mat in a calm, unangry way. It freaks me out.

[@pocketlint60]

I'm not sure what he might do!

[@Roflcrabs]

@Osvaldo Rodriguez like when he calmly says what he's gonna do to Stimpy and his German cousin.

[@alexanderotero1353]

Fun Fact about Pyramid Head's Pyramid Head They succeeded so hard at the 'uncomfortable to wear' aspect that when making the first Movie, they had to redesign his helmet slightly because the actor could not wear the 100% accurate version.

[@jorgepeterbarton]

haha yeh, the movie is technically 'tetrahedron head' i guess.

[@Bokkensword]

Pats such a liar! He's totally going for the water ending and trying to be sneaky about it!

[@LabTech41]

I always imagined Maria as the counterpoint to Pyramid head, in that while Pyramid head was the manifestation of James's guilt/frustration/rage, Maria was the manifestation of his love/lust; which is why neither can truly die until James accepts what he's done.

[@GreenGimmick]

Your not that far off

[@LabTech41]

GreenGimmick Well, in your estimation what have I left out?

[@parastroika2393]

Pyramid Head is James' subconscious personification of guilt (Super-Ego), Maria is the personification of his denial of that guilt (Ego). Her ending reinforces that. His attempt to move on with a dopple-ganger that behaves in a manner that James thought Mary was deficient in i.e. the way she dresses and behaves (Id).

[@jordanalves4052]

So Pats going for the "In Water Ending" I see

[@Garboreal]

Yooooo, are you the same Jordan Alves from the SMT network?

[@jordanalves4052]

AkaiCoat yep that's me

[@Garboreal]

Glad to know there's another TBFP fan in the group. Sorry, it's a bit awkward to randomly ask this in the comments. I just found it to be interesting.

[@jordanalves4052]

Not at all its totally fine. And yeah TBF is great, one of the main reasons I watch stuff on KZbin

[@Garboreal]

Same. There are a few decent LP channels out there, but nothing quite beats the Best Friends Zaibatsu. The podcasts are great to listen to as well.

[@gtaIVlord]

*_Silent Hill fact of the day_*: the Creepers/Giant Roaches aren't the only monsters that are part of Silent Hill's metaphysical design. The Mandarins, which you find later, are the basis of the Closers on Silent Hill 3 You guys missed some nice details after the scene with Angela. On the ground, there was a torn picture, with a mother, father, a daughter and brother. That's problably Angela's family, ripped apart between her and her father, relating to her story. Also, on Room 109, you found two door: the one to Angela. and the other one with wooden bars on it and a small teddy bear besides it, also symbolic to Angela's story I have one request: go towards Silent Hill Historical Society, if you haven't continued playing yet. There's something _really nice_ there

[@myaamgs]

What is the really nice thing?

[@ScaredOfClocks]

You forgot to mention that the Creepers are actually supposed to represent the player saying how small they are compared to the powers around them. And are also controlled by Alessa as a sorta "scout"

[@gtaIVlord]

***** Indeed, but not so much for SH2. After the first Silent Hill, Alessa's influence isn't so strong as it were when Cheryl and her became one (_and the same_) again and her nightmare became reality. On Silent Hill 2, the metaphysical influence, which was there since time immemorial, was what had effect on the town and surrounding areas. The "supernatural power" of Silent Hill is much closer to something like Stanisław Lem's Solaris, instead of a Judaic-Christian god. Only on SH3 Alessa's power had the effect it used to have.

[@ScaredOfClocks]

it was 2 different ideas clearly the first one was right.

[@soulreaverable]

What's the nice thing you'll find?

[@TheBoyHype]

Also, Maria says James' name without him telling her it

[@itsmeaustinitsmeaustinitwa725]

IT'S ME, AUS- OH WAIT! NO IT ISN'T! I AM THE PIANO MAN! AND I WILL DO YOU A GREAT MELODY! THE ENTIRE SILENT HILL SOUNDTRACK WAS MY IDEA! BELIEVE ME!

[@redquoter]

THIS LP WILL ONLY COME DOWN TO HOW OFTEN PAT EXAMINES MARY'S PICTURE AND HOW MUCH HE NEGLECTS HEALING HIMSELF. TEAM LEAVE VS TEAM IN WATER GOGOGO

[@nathaneskin3572]

***** I always felt leave was more fitting because James ends up surviving silent hill and not ending up like Angela or Eddy.

[@hazardousjazzgasm129]

I vote Leave, even though the happiness of it is kinda inconsistent, but in water doesn't have any of the cool ambiguity of the other endings and to me that is more inconsistent.

[@nathaneskin3572]

Jason Bissainthe Leave isn't that happy to me. I mean, he still has to live with what he did forever. It's not as sad as in water, and it doesn't have the horrible implications of Maria or Rebirth, where James slips the rest of the way off the deep end, but I wouldn't exactly say it's happy either.

[@hazardousjazzgasm129]

I find it extremely touching considering that Mary wanted to adopt Laura. Obviously considering the circumstances of her death, it's still dark but I found it so touching and respectful to Mary that it makes me feel joy for both James and Laura, a second chance at happiness. It definitely still has that brooding sense of tragedy, so you make a very fair point.

[@nathaneskin3572]

Jason Bissainthe It is the closest thing to a "good ending" in the game, I agree there.

[@CaptainMorganThe3rd]

I love how the top-down shot with Angela and her reflection is framed. With the stains on the carpet and the way her reflection mirrors her pose, it looks like a rorschach blot.

[@skiso7620]

I love how much respect for the game these two show in this lp, it is so different to everything else they do and it really makes this series great.

[@boheyo]

That image of Angela on the floor with the knife holds a weird significance for me because it was on the SH2 Director's Cut poster I put up in the bedroom of my first apartment

[@RobotEthanMars]

"there's always a better way..." Well, James, about the ending you're going to have...

[@altoria4857]

“I have more Nefarious Stuff to do.” -The main monster in a game known for subtlety. Perfect.

[@MDXDMusic]

The song at 3:04 is called "Promise (Reprise)" Getting that specific because both 'Promise' and 'Promise (Reprise)' have completley different tonal qualities with 'Promise' being in major and 'Promise (Reprise)' being in minor. I adore Akira Yamaoka's choice in melodic cadence with this specfic entry in the Silent Hill franchise. It's a certain musical quality that can't be replicated to any other video game.

[@templar19]

That little exchange makes me want to try to read Crime and Punishment again.

[@templar19]

***** But don't do it! It'll make your brain bleed outta your ears. :-/

[@alexf8314]

Its one of the greatest novels ever written so you absolutely should.

[@СтепанХудяков-у1д]

I don't like Dostoevsky that much, but yeah, crime and punishment is pretty great.

[@ajfernandez1430]

One of the best LPs till this day miss the channel

[@carefulyoshi6359]

remember being a little babby stayin up past midnight with my dad gettin all the endings for this game and I absolutely loved every second of it!!!

[@bryangutierrez6679]

At first i thought that Pat was editing their audio out of the cutscenes or something but when Matt's voice slipped into that cutscene the theory about Pat putting a knife on Matt's throat to keep him quiet gained a lot more of strenght.

[@angeladriano408]

I'm an abuse survivor and I can definitely vouch I have reacted like that when I was younger, my immediate response to a person trying to touch me was "!!!Danger!!!" and I would enter fight or flight a few times or just shut down mentally. I feel sorry for Angela :/

[@Mevenda1]

Prob my fav lp they did. These guys helped get me through some dark times.

[@2244juniper]

I love how these guys can be funny but, also appreciate the very theatrical and meaningful parts of a game.

[@AVB40000]

Pyramid Head: I'm done. James: W- What? Pyramid Head: I'm bored, you're boring me.

[@TirowVioleteyes]

Speaking as someone who watches your videos frequently, I have to say that this is one of your better LPs. You take it quite seriously and enjoy it a lot, and I can see why. Keep up the good work, guys, this stuff is really entertaining, more than playing the game from my perspective. The best part about this is that Matt isn't playing, and hasn't found an axe to throw into an endless pit like some sort of nerd. (Why did that control option even exist. You never really have to throw weapons in that game. Stupid game design decisions.)

[@kierancampire]

One thing i really like about this game so far, in a weird way, is how every character just seems so complacent and accepting of literally everything around them even though suddenly went from a hell scape where they are trying to be killed my their worst nightmares, like, no one seems to really acknowledge it or give it the reaction it'd deserve, it just kinda adds to the unsettling side haha

[@antidjhero2]

Did anyone notice that when Maria first meets James, she says ghost and it skips.

[@13DUH]

I will probably come back and watch this playthrough like 5 times

[@Linkmasterson]

***** nothing can be better than that playthrough that fucking york smile though

[@Kem1kal13]

They didnt reimport the Xbox lighting, because that is per-pixel lighting, which the PS2 hardware isn't capable off. You can tell by the way the flashlight hits the walls, its still vertex-based.

[@spyder5876]

What a perfectly timed, one off glitch they had. For some reason their game like, stutters on Maria saying "Ghost" and has it come out as "G-Ghost". That's a random one off bug, because I just refinished Silent Hill 2 today and it isn't supposed to have that stutter there. But theirs did, and it's just that little bit more eerie as a result.

[@Tentacle]

Natural ending. Sure Pat. Surreeee

[@Tentacle]

I'll be whatever your heart desires.

[@daanthedoctor]

I was not expecting that comment

[@jadevenator5659]

I LOVE listening to you guys go over the symbolism and meanings of things. I've never heard Pat so driven and excited just to talk about a game. It's quite enjoyable. Thanks again for doing this series, you guys.

[@amberlee656]

Nothing says survival horror like "I'm drowning in bullets"...

[@Brandonious15987]

I like how Pat says he doesn't care what ending he gets but keeps checking the photo.

[@BewbsOP]

there is definitely something wrong with this guy, he is looking for his dead wife, and finds a girl who looks and sounds just like her, and even has a name that is a derivative of her name, but doesn't find that weird. and he doesn't seem to find it weird that in a town filled with monsters, he finds a child, who just happens to know his dead wifes name. the fuck?

[@ZeonXGR]

Denial, repressed feelings, etc, etc.

[@BewbsOP]

Zavier Nestorov so basically he has everything wrong with him, i mean sereously, if i wen't someplace to find my dead wife, and there were fucking monsters, i would have booked it, i mean she;s dead, what does he sereously think he'll find.

[@suwatsaksri7191]

He doesnt have a life to go back to, nothing to lose so why not explore further, if he will get some answers then its worth it

[@ZeonXGR]

That's pretty much why he's there, he doesn't care about himself any more, he knows his wife is dead but can't get over it. So he goes to Silent Hill after somehow receiving a letter from her because he wants to see her again.

[@AnonRanGER01]

I've always considered Silent Hill as being a lucid dream-like experience. You react differently in a dream than when you're awake, and logic works differently, yet still makes sense in its own way.

[@TheSamuraiGoomba]

I actually forgot how good the cutscenes in SH2 are. On par with some films.

[@logandh2]

Without Guy Cihi as James the game wouldn't be half as good as it is. He sells the hell out of it

[@alexf8314]

The music, the the way the characters interact, etc... Its all just perfect. The cut scenes are just wonderful and this is easily my favorite game ever.

[@35november]

Up there with the greats... like Samurai Cop and The Room.

[@sialiasialis.]

@@35november I can't tell if you're being facetious or purposefully demeaning lol

[@bulliwyf]

The SH LP I want to see is The Room.

[@mastermarkus5307]

I am a fan of that one, though I definitely see it's flaws. I would like to know what Pat really thinks about it, and what parts he thinks work and don't.

[@SamanoskeMiku]

For a moment there I thought you wanted them to do a Super Best Friends Watch The Room. As in the horrible movie.

[@mastermarkus5307]

Detestable Gargoyle That sounds fun too.

[@Amyr28go]

YOU ARE TEARING ME APART, LISA

[@The_RedVIII]

Game Grumps are currently playing The Room, although they have not uploaded an episode of it for a long time now. Don't know if they finish it.

[@brittz1359]

I know that these two aren't making videos together anymore but I have to point out how much I love their admiration for the soundtracks of these games. I have pretty much every song and I will listen to them while I fall asleep. Creepy as they can sometimes be, Yamaoka's music is so comforting and beautiful I can't help but feel soothed and relaxed.

[@NARATO0]

Can I just how fucking amazing the OST is ? I mean just that scene with James and the woman sounded very mysterious but claiming. In fact 1 through 4 are all fantastic. I was just playing 4 again and the main theme "Room of Angel" still kick ass and Akira Yamoka a genius

[@jonahamason6254]

"cant get rid of hunger by feeding the world cancer". Nice reference to the Saints Row LP

[@mortified0]

Goddammit Pat, you know you're gonna get the In Water ending if you keep this up. Cut it out. Get the good ending, goddammit.

[@mortified0]

You must be seriously nihilistic to consider it the good ending. The Laura ending is pretty much the only objectively good one.

[@MasterAsra]

My Profile Picture is by Hatomame, will all you perverts stop asking Objectively the UFO is the good ending, since it ties the game series together.

[@AlainSTO]

Well it is the canonical one. I mean, if we were to consider anything here that.

[@Imaspookykitty]

I like in water the best only cuz it really feels like that's how it should end

[@mortified0]

Geruvah Has any ending ever been confirmed canon? In Water is just too sad, man. I can't take it.

[@headhunter0025]

These cut-scenes really are suberp. The music is incredible

[@wasted.experience]

Time to relax with horrifying bullshit. Best way to go to bed.

[@hyperspacey]

As far as the extra modes European releases of games got, you need to remember that back in the PS2 era the EU release of a game made in Japan was typically four to twelve months behind the US one, and many developers used this delay to fix or enhance the game (sometimes explicitly to reward the patience of fans). Konami were particularly good for adding extra stuff; MGS2 and Silent Hill 2 came with Making Of bonus discs loaded with material.

[@SteelBallRun1890]

Even Silent Hill is not safe from shit kids.

[@pocketlint60]

More like Silent Hill is *especially* not safe from shit kids.

[@Jibjabberwocky]

Flintstone's Chewable Morphine Hill

[@Linkmasterson]

the new silent hill's monsters are just gonna be shitty fucking kids telling you to do things and alot of them are using ducks and tractors to kill you

[@TheFunniBaconMan]

+DIO's Scary Monster and THE WORLD Silent Hill is *home* to shit kids.

[@007KopyKat]

Silent Hill 2 is a masterpiece, also loving how you guys are talking about the game and each scene. Keep it up!

[@holdmeclosertinyprancer]

I've always had a vague theory that there's something up with the relationship between Mary and Laura and cats, because the mural on the wall you see Laura on is of a bear and a cat together (and you find Laura playing with teddy bears later and a certain someone mentions Laura loves bears in Born From A Wish) and when you talk to Laura in the hotel she draws a cat in the dust on the window as she talks about Mary. I'm willing to believe that they're probably both just throwaway details that I'm giving too much importance too, but that's always stood out to me anyway.

[@cmo3195]

Welcome from 2020 anyone reading this! Miss the best friends!

[@danielsantiagomontoyaotalv1595]

I do, god damn Ido!

[@cmo3195]

@@danielsantiagomontoyaotalv1595 nice to see I’m not the only one revisiting the old videos

[@mysterymastermind175]

I am really enjoying this let's play. I love how Pat analyzes everything, it really makes you think about all the loving touches put into this classic. I REALLY hope you guys finish this, I think it's awesome! :D

[@platinumrevolver4082]

I live in an apartment so this REALLY sets a different tone here

[@DarkWraithKevin]

I love how everyone thought he was going for the Maria ending, I was guilty of this myself at the time

[@Lucidiasans]

Huh how have I never noticed this detail. (Just rewatching this don't mind me, I miss these guys) 25:23 "I wonder if its still there" James mutters while tilting his head. He absolutely forgot about the hotel. Later in the game maria mocks this very quote "You said you took everything, but you forgot that video tape we made. I wonder if it's still there." Proceeds to tilt her head in puzzlement similar to james. How did I not pick up on this before, She mocks how forgetful he constantly is and his thoughtlessness.

[@joshuas.8410]

I love the "In Water" ending. This one really fits more the story.

[@sadderall8]

Patt's voice in this playthrough is weirdly soothing

[@salvi016]

these need to be longer much longer. like an hour each or something PLEASE, i love this series. pats insight makes it so much better.

[@JonathanXLindqviust]

Actually Pyramid Head is much more part of Silent Hill than any other "Monster", from all the comics, lore and interviews I've come across (canon and somewhat noncanon) they state that Silent Hill draws people to it that feel, consciously or unconsciously, that feel that they need or deserve punishment. A sort of atonement, see the demons in Silent Hill take the shame of the characters inner demons, their traumas and "monsters", whereas Pyramid Head is the only one to stay the same for all just like the City: Because he represents the one true demon they can't kill, he represents their reason for being there, he represents their need for punishment which is why he is the punisher; He can only be stopped or "die" when the characters reason to stay in Silent Hill dies, when they come to terms with their inner demons. Pyramid Head murders other monsters because he's the ruling trauma, the ruling monster and the ruling reason for them. He's the city of Silent Hill personified... Slow, dirty, grueling and in agony. But with unending purpose.

[@TylerRuins]

An interesting hypothesis indeed, but Pyramid Head is a rather peculiar monster, one whose continued meaning and placement has become more and more unclear with time. I think that you are rather close to spot-on, but only in the case of Silent Hill 2. The existence of THE Pyramid Head in additional games in the series is often dubious at best, and outright ridiculous at worst (of course, his ridiculous and completely unimportant appearances are usually in spin-offs, which doesn't really matter) because of the characters whom he torments. In some cases it just doesn't make sense for him to appear.

[@RickardLejonhjarta]

These cutscenes are experiences man That pacing and dialoge is an abstract work of art

[@shooterb0y23]

Little does pat is that animators have already made animated 3d porn of the older RE cast....

[@Ya_Mosura]

That would be tits.

[@chriscobb9394]

Master of unlocking I laughed so hard when i read that. Quint and Keith... unforgettable because they were so forgettable in a series with oddly great characters that are also bad.

[@Ya_Mosura]

Chris Cobb Yeah they were both kinda douche-bags but great line tho, I also like > "Me and my sweet ass are on the way!"

[@Nobody-ve6dh]

I played this game way back when it first came out and the magic of the cutscenes never fail to captivate me even 15 years later. The vibes they contain surpass description; a beautifully strange and haunting melancholy.

[@SOMEdude7473]

I'm disappointed that the easter egg in the Lynn House didn't pop off.

[@kennedy727272]

You can tell how much Pat respects this game because he really pumped up the game noise in post to let us experience the subtlety. Thanks for this zaibatsu WE LOVE YOU :)

[@Tedfufu]

What would Woolie's version of Silent Hill be like?

[@datbear3891]

pie monsters that 1 shot him

[@TeamDeltaMAXXX]

Woolie IS Sillent Hill

[@joeysingingchannel]

Pieces of broken Hulk doll jangle around. Woolie has to escort a sexy pie around that has short hair.

[@aastralplane]

no green and holes

[@MasterAsra]

Joey's Singing Channel When he inevitably eats the pie does it turn into that one guy he killed?

[@arashi86]

something about this lp is really soothing to me, oddly

[@daniisaurushax]

I don’t know if they say it later because it’s my first time watching super best friends play silent hill 2 but Maria’s outfit is literally taken from a Christina Aguilera outfit

[@7Anakin7]

wow, you're right

[@alexismartinez1453]

You guys are amazing, this game brings me back so many memories!

[@ZhecoNol]

"I want a natural ending for us." >Examines the picture and knife like 5 times Sure. Gotcha

[@DrakeVagabond]

This LP is like the Cyber Sub-Zero vs Nood fight scene all over again

[@222CBK222]

Business Pyramid Head wants you to work late.

[@Kouyou160]

I just have to say, thanks for releasing these videos you guys. Watching your videos makes the week a little easier.

[@PPGIRL420]

"Will you hold this knife for me?" "Sure" *attempts to take knife* "NOOO"

[@gaminggoddess85]

You say you're not going for a particular ending but you're sure examining that photo and knife a lot, Pat. One interesting thing is you don't even have to shoot Pyramid Head in that encounter (it takes a lot longer if you don't though). He just GTFOs eventually. It was probably set up that way in case the player ran out of bullets rather than any symbolic thing though. The Lying Figures were never based on condoms Pat. Someone is obviously "lying" to you about that part. My sister looks creepily like Maria's ingame model. Makes what happens later kind of unsettling. And stop calling me a shit kid :c

[@Romanticoutlaw]

Woolie probably told him about the condom people

[@Tamacat388]

People like to add sex things in their minds I guess. Whenever something is up for interpretation it's "well, is it a sex thing? It's probably a sex thing."

[@MelBrooksKA]

He is making a reference to an earlier comment that a tiny detail about the lying figure seems like it is in a full body condom

[@fluffyzhangfei]

Thanatos388 Guess what? A whole lot of human psychology revolves around sexuality. And if people are too plebian for your tastes, the people who developed the game are as much human beings as the people playing them. So they probably thought about it a lot too. Hence why the monsters are depicted as metaphors for sexuality (sometimes).

[@LaithKhalil]

fluffyzhangfei or it was a technical modeling choice. A lot of game development is exactly that. To make monsters all one smooth texture has got to be easier than modeling and running with complex monster models. Occam's razor is really a good way to think about these things.

[@Andrex2311]

Am I the only one who want a Rsident Evil Remake LP?

[@ExtremeOverdoseTV]

Nope, but SH makes me happy too. Just wish it had a Sandwich...

[@mastermarkus5307]

It brightens my day when a new part of this goes up.

[@ciboxcibox222]

"purest experience possible" uses bullet cheat..... :-)

[@sagbag]

I'm definitely in the 'saw your other Silent Hill playthroughs and know nothing else outside of that' camp. And I have to say, if nothing else these videos are fascinating.

[@logandh2]

So my guess is that Maria is a projection of what James deep down wished Mary could've been.?

[@RedJester68]

I think you're on the right track. I kind of see it as him projecting his sexual desires onto Mary during her terminal illness and Maria is sort of a fulfillment of that.

[@TeeDubable]

logandh2 I don't think so. if that were true they wouldn't argue.

[@thenegromancer4695]

RedJester68 i thought he had sex with a hooker but thought of mary in the process

[@RedJester68]

That could be true, too. The beautiful thing about SH2 is that it's open to interpretation.

[@thenegromancer4695]

I wish i was smart as a kid to finish this game lol

[@DialUpConquerer]

This whole episode really makes me appreciate the music in this game. I never knew it was so good

[@CallMeFreakFujiko]

"I want the ending to be natural!" *Looks at photo of dead wife* *Looks at dead wife's letter* *Looks at knife* *Looks at photo of dead wife again* *Edit, again:* Hooooly shit! Thank you so much, everyone~! >w< I'm sorry if it seems like I was just milking it. I kind of needed it after um... Something happened to a family member of mine, and I found out that you can actually read about it on several news sites, and some of the comments... And then this person just comes out and says something like "aren't you the one with the horrible fan fics?" and some people were like, "OMG you're right!" So I guess the fact that I apparently made something that's infamously bad shocked my already shocked state. At LEAST critique the fics *on the sites I put them on.* So again, thank you soooooo much! But don't keep me from enjoying Matt and Pat... The same way I was trying to. Edit: *Tch* Thanks a whole fucking lot. Yes, I've wrote some years ago. I'm so fucking embarrassed now. Everybody who replied to that one comment, you're all assholes.

[@CallMeFreakFujiko]

Master Markus Yeah that's fucking nice! Fuck you, seriously. I'm so fucking embarrassed now.

[@mohawklogan]

I... I don't understand what's happening. is there more then one reply? I don't get it.

[@CallMeFreakFujiko]

MohawkLogan I forgot to disable comments. Basically, somebody asked me "Aren't you the one who wrote those *horrible* Walter/Henry fan fics?!" And people were like, "oh God you're right! I was so fucking embarrassed, I deleted those comments.

[@mohawklogan]

CallMeFreakFujiko Well now you just said you did it so removing the comments was pointless... If it's that embarrassing why not change your name?

[@CallMeFreakFujiko]

MohawkLogan I think that person will still get my reply, and I shouldn't have to change my username. There are people who actually *like* everything I write! But thank you for suggesting that. Now I don't know if I want to disable comments right now. I'm already pissed off and hating myself, so...

[@KostasMachete]

My favorite Silent Hill game is SH 3 but James is my favorite protagonist. He's just reeeally interesting. They really did an amazing job.

[@madalyngragg7764]

Anyone else think a LP of Silent Hill 4: The Room would be a good idea?

[@PublicEnemy04]

I really appreciate Matt and Pat holding back along the cutscenes and much of the game. It's funny because the reason I wanted them to do the LP was to giggle and squirm at some of the funnier aspects of SH2, but I'd forgotten what a tone setter this game was, even to this date. Also, it doesn't seem like Pat's going for any-one ending *specifically*. Thus far, he's been following the requirements and "anti-requirements" for all the base three.

[@SuprememessageNG]

But I like bugs. :( (Organic ones, not coding ones)

[@seveneyes77]

What the hell man.

[@every_username_is_taken]

Fuck bugs. Both kinds.

[@Casiian_]

I love it how you explain the game as it progresses. I don't think the face of Maria and Mary are the same. Sato Takayoshi said in a interview that the polygon count for Maria and Mary are exactly the same, but the polygons are rearrange differently therefore changing the skull shape. Either way you can tell a lot of thought went into this game!

[@dante36807]

What's the song at the beginning?

[@kanesoban]

Theme of Laura (reprise)

[@dante36807]

Csaba Zsolnai thank you

[@dragamation3266]

Oooooo this game is sooo good from what ive seen so far. The chats with other characters are so darn spooky

[@mex1jvr]

Durst!

[@erwin21381]

Rollin' rollin' rollin'.

[@itsmeaustinitsmeaustinitwa725]

Erwin Dedić ONLY MY SONG IS QUOTEABLE! STOP!

[@mastermarkus5307]

***** Uhhh.... "Sing us a son, you're the piano man, sing us a song tonight, Well we're all in the mood for a melody, and you've got us feelin' alright."

[@RadDude69X]

Ain't no rollin' in this game yo!

[@boheyo]

No one knows what it's like to read these comments. To be the sad man.

[@FEEBLEHT]

I actually really like Pat's tidbits of lore on the game. Also i always thought Maria's design was meant to reflect what James wanted Mary to be, like he wanted her to be less reserved and more sexual. I feel like he just remembers Mary and their relationship through rose tinted glasses now she's gone.

[@zgSH4DOW]

Not a huge fan of Matt and Pat quieting up for cutscenes. What's the point?

[@shooterb0y23]

Because they respect the iconic cutscenes and dialogue?

[@WhiteFangOfTheLeaf]

shooterb0y23 Dialogue? :D

[@zgSH4DOW]

shooterb0y23 How old is this game; 13 years old? That's a faulty excuse for taking breaks from your job.

[@gtaIVlord]

Because the game is serious and taciturn. All Silent Hill is asking, when Matt and Pat come home, is R-E-S-P-E-C-T

[@Sussy_Bottom_Boys]

zgSHADOW If that's your mindset then you clearly don't understand. Its about respect.