Two ROCK Fans REACT to The Rise of Bangtan Chapter 7 Persona

[@mac9822]

War of Hormone got trashed because it's an "idol" song. RM's solo is a rap song which is more explicit. There are many solo rappers in Korea who are more explicit than that. Idol songs are expected to be clean and for kids/teens (maybe).

[@cnot4948]

Firstly. The Rise Of Bangtan (official channel) still has 134,000 subscribers even though she deleted all the videos. The channel that you are watching from is a re-upload of the original videos. I am subscribed to both as the love I have for this series is immeasurable. When the creator deleted the videos it came as a shock and there were many people who hadn't even finished watching it. Although she wasn't able to explain why she deleted them - she did give permission to the other channel to re-upload the videos that they had saved on a google drive as they came out. So thankfully because of that, many people are still able to watch this amazing series and I have mad respect for both - the first for creating this and the second for preserving it so others could continue to watch it. Now on to War of Hormone. There are people still to this day that say the song is misogynistic. For those who aren't sure - here is the definition of MISOGYNY 'Misogyny is hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls. It is a form of sexism that is used to keep women at a lower social status than men, thus maintaining the social roles of patriarchy.' (definition from Wikipedia) While it can be argued the the song may be a bit sexist it is no where near misogynistic. The sexist part can be argued that things being talked about are the physical attributes as opposed to a persons personality. But the reality of life is that the first thing that attracts most people IS physical appearance (whether you want to admit it or not, that is just reality) For myself (as an older female) I have zero problems with this song. Young men or women talking about their attraction to other people and how that makes them feel is just honesty. And honestly, RM taking this and doing research on women's studies is a far better response than just defending the song because if they went into defense mode - the haters would have had more to lean into as well. By responding the way he did it gave them no ground to walk on if they tried to keep attacking the group for the song. And yes, a lot of music nowadays is far worse (not just in rap or hiphop). When a song like W.A.P. came out it was praised all over the place for female empowerment. For the people who thought that you have a lot to learn. Leaning into the sexualization of women and and having it done by women is not empowerment it's just giving people who are already oversexualizing women more of what they want. As for RM's song 'DO YOU' it is not about drug use. Definitely watch it but BTS never promotes drugs. And if you watch War Of Hormone (usually shortened to W.O.H.) please check out the dance practice titled 'War Of Hormone (Halloween dance practice) 'War Of Hormone (real war)' 'War Of Hormone (real war) on crack' You will get a real laugh out of all 3.

[@fy3845]

Aneesa, the creator of the Rise of Bangtan had worked this passion project for over 4 years. She had never expected for this series to blow up as it did. She felt a lot of pressure and needed an emotional / mental break from the project. She made the decision to abruptly end it after Chapter 21. Even though she had already edited Chapter 22, but never posted it. She and I DM each other once in a while and I repect her decision and never question her choices. She started this documentary as her way to thank the guys for helping her through some difficult times as well as she wanted to create something to share with her friends and family why BTS are so important to her and many others. She is an extremely talented and introverted young woman. She is now working as a successful film editor for a company who works with major studios, so she is very busy with work. Also, with Disney+ releasing their BTS documentary series starting in December, it will be very interesting to see how they will tell BTS's story. What makes Aneese's series special is she tried very hard to use the guys' actual words to tell their story and not assume their situations. She lived through their journey personally. She is a pre-debut ARMY and even was in the line to watch their Amercian Hustle concert at the Troubadour in LA back in 2014. (she just missed the cut off to get in!) Finally, other Korean speakers said the english lyric translations for War of Hormons are incorrect and made it sound more "misogynistic" than it was!

[@cnot4948]

@@fy3845 I know. Aneesa is amazing. I was one of the people who watched this series from when it started as well as watching her live streams. It is the only time I jumped through hoops to support her patreon (being one of the many people who encouraged her to start one). I am very ashamed of the people who were asking for their money back when she deleted the videos. Unfortunately I'm not on social media so I got most of her updates through her channel and the comments. I wish her nothing but the best and hope she is doing well because I also know that this series put a massive strain on her health mentally and physically.

[@fy3845]

@@cnot4948 Awwww! I also started watching TRoB a little after it started airing as well. Aneesa's livestreams were fun, although I thought she was crazy to do 7+ hour livestreams! haha! At least she got to practice her Korean and we got interesting stories and answers to our questions! She wasn't working then, so she had some free time. What is great is now she actually is living her life and not be consummed by this series! (She recently even went to Busan to spend time with one of her best friends!) I'm happy for her! How horrible about some of her Patreons asking for their money back! She was always open on how the money was used to upgrade the software to edit the series as well as the rest of the money donated to BTS related causes! She even post receipts of the donations! She never even wanted to have a Patreon account but some viewers kept insisting for her to create one to help "support" her efforts! Uuugh!

[@cnot4948]

@@fy3845 I'm glad to hear she's doing well and yes I loved watching her live streams - she even answered a few of my questions. Honestly I think of her as my spirit animal lol (we think so much alike). And yes I did encourage her for her patreon and I did support her (there are many of us who did) but those who were horrible to her after the videos were deleted were inexcusable. It's like buying an album and after the band breaks up you demand your money back. It was ridiculous and like you said - she was very transparent about everything the money was used for (with the 'receipts' to prove it). It was nice chatting with you. Maybe I'll catch some of your comments in more reactions to this amazing series.

[@fy3845]

@@cnot4948 Nice chatting with you too! I'll keep an eye out for your comments in the near future! I found another really good reactor channel you might like. It's a well known Vocal Coach/Artist and another songwriter. They give really good insights! The channel is Throga - Vocal Gym. Check them out!

[@cutebunn5908]

You are right about their duality. Half of the members are introverts including Jin, JK and Suga. 💜💜💜

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Lol I thought so💜💜💜

[@sandralovecchio7597]

@@TripTipsPodcastJimin is very shy behind the scenes, but on stage he is the opposite.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

@@sandralovecchio7597 very true

[@TripTipsPodcast]

@@sandralovecchio7597 which is crazy lol

[@mev9752]

@@TripTipsPodcasthi, It wasn’t “fans” that were upset , cuz of the song , were haters , specially of other big idol male groups at that time cuz BTS was getting a lot of males fans cuz the song was relatable to them , I mean how could not , that’s what a teen boy or younger adult act cuz of the hormones , the females that get upset are the cringy typical ones that get all exited when they see their fave male member showing their abs lol. This song is just honest , they presented dark and wild as an honey album. As you see BTS get targeted for nothing cuz they were a threat for those groups and even now they still are one but in a bigger scale cuz they are a threat to any act.

[@njjm5003]

It's so fascinating to see behind the scenes into this industry and world....but really BTS are the first that have given this level of intimate access into their world from day 1 to now.... we are so privileged and they are still so incredibly humble!

[@sweetlorre]

Trueeeee. And now every group tries to recreate their format but seems a bit forced and staged. Where BTS really did everything organically/naturally..

[@njjm5003]

@@sweetlorre yes, they were so natural from the very beginning...it was just another part of who they were!

[@choym8730]

This father & son tandem genuine reaction on videos is enjoyable.... as Jimin said "you're nice keep going"💜

[@TripTipsPodcast]

😊 thank you

[@JeonJungkook-wr4yr]

When these guys cry i cry as well like its so emotional.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

I came close

[@iabsstar8023]

for some of us its just life.. I am an international student and see my parents after 2-3 years every time.... even though I miss them badly want to be with them in festivals.. but that's how life... that's why can relate to their logs soo much

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Totally understand 😊

[@Hehehehehehe7]

24:60 Ikr, it's the Duality they have, it's something tht makes them real... 29:22 Right, idk wht was wrong with people 😂.... (btw "Do You" contained the core message of the mixtape advising listeners to lead an autonomous life free from society's standards)

[@cutebunn5908]

I can't remember if it was during the time jHope eas receiving all the hate or predebute but jHope did leave the group and RM worked hard to convince him and everyone that BTS needed him. jHope came back because he trusted the guys. 💜💜💜

[@TripTipsPodcast]

The trust between the guys is amazing.

[@LPnerd]

JK cried and hung on to him to try to keep him from leaving. J Hope talks about it in a movie I think. says, " I came back because I trusted you guys.".

[@TripTipsPodcast]

@@LPnerd awww

[@marinal.]

Jhope left the group before debut i think.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

@@marinal. interesting

[@njjm5003]

Really great reaction as ever... thanks guys Lots of interesting points as ever.. when Jhope was receiving that awful hate, their mentor from American Hustle Life (you saw in previous episode) Tony came out and actively spoke up for him &that Bangtan need all members. You're spot on about just finding anything to attack BTS and discredit them especially as they became more popular, still happens from other fandoms now and others. Sabotage is ever present. An interesting point is that BTS can go places incognito, Jimin said recently what he likes to do in his free time is meet friends & go to food stands in his sweatpants. He also runs daily by the Han River. RM is often out& about unrecognised so there is still some privacy especially in Korea.... less so when they are abroad at times. Jungkook went to a travel service station while filming his camping vlog & got food for him &his crew without being recognised. Sometimes there are leaked photos... but considering how famous they are....it's pretty good. . Polaroid photos, it's become a bit if a niche hobby & Jhope, V & Jimin still take Polaroids now. They all do a lot of personal memory making. You're right about the split personality...we call it their duality..... The channel that put these videos together closed a couple of years ago and only recently restarted again on this channel. We were in mourning for ages!!! There is soo much more to come!! Oh... you mentioned in the last video about them having to video themselves, they always have done mini logs, vlogs, twitter videos etc as well as their protocol team videoing. In the early days they did more obviously but Jungkook has always had a special interest in videography and set up his own series called the Golden Closet Films - he did all the filming and editing himself. They are all still on Bangtantv.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Thanks for the info 👍 We’ll check out the films on Bangtan TV

[@sweetlorre]

Thank you for typing this out 😁 I smile whenever Jeremy notices their duality.. That is how dedicated they are as performers. Their earlier concerts/stages are very playful since most of them are just teenagers that time..

[@njjm5003]

@@sweetlorre absolutely! It's also how they relieved the pressure at that young age and still often is.... we still talk about their duality all the time 😂 and love them for it. We get to see the whole of them!

[@sweetlorre]

@@njjm5003 trueeee ☺️ I miss them together. 💜🫰

[@h.vgavriel5838]

For war of hormone, the real text means "girls are like equation, we try to SOLVE them"., so basically, women are mystery. The term "we do them" was a poor translation, but I have to say it has a double meaning only for english speakers (most in the US) , because for non english speakers like me, it has no sexual meanings at all ! This song is funny, full of teenage hormone ebullition, and not mysoginistic at all (and I'm a 59 yo feminist woman ! ). It was just a pretex for some Kpop fandoms to throw hate on BTS, as they always do, till these days. But the Compagny, BTS and RM manage it very well and with a lot of wisdom, and they grow and mature for this expérience.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Still love this song.

[@sandralovecchio7597]

Rise of Bangtan was released about 3 years ago and each episode had over 200,000 views each. Aneesa worked with a couple of other girls to put these together, but took all the chapters down and , not sure if it was her, re released them again just recently. She said the series was to be 23 chapters in total and that she was almost finished putting the remaining two when they were taken down.

[@selenacarrillo6113]

I have been subscribed to Anissa's channel (The Raise of Bangtan) for a long time, she really deserves it, her work is extraordinary.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

She deserves all the success

[@deedeemartinez7828]

"I'm trying to find what people are so obsessed about"😂 sameee. As a woman I don't find those lyrics bad at all. Are simply innocent thoughts of teenagers that everyone has had for sure. People like acting like they never were young lol

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Seriously smh 🤦

[@Kookiepookie2025]

bts also struggled with the fame things they have like 3 or 4 introvert members they are used to it now and armys try to educate each other to not bother them on their free time , jungkook asks crazy stalkers to not follow him . i hope they get to walk in peace freely . yeah they saw their families once or twice a year so they had to cope with it its sad

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Yeah that’s tough

[@justvibing2171]

13:32 Yes I wish they would have just changed a couple of the lines & continued to perform the song. The song is really catchy I like it a lot it’s a shame to never see them perform it again. They could just change the lyrics that offended people & replace them with new ones. 19:03 yup 36:10 It’s a lot of pressure for sure

[@ericweinman9447]

I am totally convinced had War of Hormone been a tv show about pubescent teens there would have been little brouhaha. It would have been contextualized as theater and judged as well done or poorly done. Misogyny talk would not have occurred. Rather, talk would have been about was it exaggerated or satirical and did this make for good theater. But it wasn't a tv show. It was a creative musical work squarely in the sights of a certain big corporation fandom which had already been shooting quite a few derisive internet attacks at BTS. War of Hormone gave them the opportunity to make BTS pariahs. They were characterized as rebels with no respect for women who made up much of the commercial following for idols. If one says something on the internet, no matter what that is there are some who will believe it to be true. And those influenced by your statement will like and pass it on creating a snowball rolling down a mountain. These stans of a certain SM group got a ball rolling which rolled over BTS almost squashing them had BTS not had ARMY and the skills to adjust when faces with real adversity. Despite the immediate statement of RM which tends to be highlighted in documentaries, the HYYH era was the real adaptation. BTS adapted by showcasing a new kind of creativity. This would not stop those SM group fanbase desk chair critics but would allow the public to evaluate BTS in a new light. And needless to say that light shone brighter. As to RM's Do You not getting trashed on, it was not BTS. That SM group's fanbase was determined to erode support for perceived competition. A mixtape by a BTS member was not commercial competition so would not attract the same level of attention. As a rap mixtape it was not Idol music.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

I think we all know why they made such a big deal out of it. Because they hate BTS and want to sabotage them

[@lynimperial5590]

The original uploader /creator of THE RISE OF BANGTAN documentaries is deleted her channel her name is Anessa luckily have army save and uploaded the videos on the new channel ❤

[@njjm5003]

Great minds think alike, I was just writing this! Such an important series to save!

[@LPnerd]

this wasn't trashed because it was a mixtape. also, it so damn good, how could they say a word without looking stupid, also, it dumped the drugs, smashed, turned it into powder.

[@agnieszkam.1378]

Hey! I don't know where you watch the episodes of this series, but the original Rise of Bangtan channel is closed and still has 134k subscribers. The creator of the channel contacted us throughout the creation of this series and finally informed us (about 8 months ago) about the decision to remove the series from YT. (I'm not sure, but probably due to copyright issues and the official biography being created for Disney) still, this is an amazing and very valuable series!

[@TripTipsPodcast]

👍👍

[@valenciabegay3489]

It was offline for awhile and came back on.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

@@valenciabegay3489 glad it’s back

[@lisas44]

The lyrics War of Hormone - I don't know what they were so upset about either. Especially compared to US.

[@abhinponi1030]

yeay..going home after work, watch this is the best.. 🎉😊

[@TripTipsPodcast]

💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

[@Kookiepookie2025]

war of hormone is simply about mocking boys hormones and their silly thoughts as teens it is so obvious but it got alot of hate i love the song and im a woman lol the lyrics translations is always tricky the translation is not always 100 accurate

[@TripTipsPodcast]

That’s what we found out

[@cutebunn5908]

I laugh everytime I hear it because it is truely depicts how boys battle hormones. 💜💜💜 I am female as well.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

@@cutebunn5908 love it

[@JesusOurLordandSavior]

​​​@@cutebunn5908ugh, my nephew (13) he has been caught watching stuff he shouldnt be watching, his step dad takes him fishing or just hangout to have a talk about his changes, my sister is really grateful because she didnt know how to handle it, but her husband assured her that its a normal phase. He once watched hentai on my phone, I didnt know what it was, it was in my history, I asked him and his expression was the funniest guilty look I have ever seen, he didnt know you can delete the history. My daughter is 16 and thats a whole different issue....

[@mev9752]

@@TripTipsPodcast It wasn’t “fans” that were upset , were haters , specially if other big idol male groups at that time cuz BTS was getting a lot of males fans cuz the song was relatable to them , I mean how could not , that’s what a teen boy or younger adult act cuz of the hormones , the females that get upset are the cringy typical ones that get all exited when they see their fave male member showing their abs lol. This song is just honest , they presented dark and wild as an honest album.

[@lealarsen2017]

BTs can´t curse on title tracks but they can on free soundcloud songs and on bsides. that is because kpop mainly target teenagers so parents wont allow that so it has been like that for ages. soundcloud is not accessible to most koreans because they use samsung and it´s free. so that´s why RM wasn´t judged on that. it´s mainly on the MV and performances they do on tv programs that has teenagers watching.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

I see. That makes sense

[@sailormean1743]

Ummm this hasn’t been true for BTS for a long time. Considering RM shouted “put your motherfucking hands up” at multiple BTS concerts I don’t think they care about appealing to children and parents sensibilities . Sugas solo tour absolutely wasn’t for children either. They make the music they want to make as men in their late 20’s. They aren’t The Wiggles.

[@eileencritchley4630]

@@sailormean1743 So true

[@MinMeows_Booty]

Cussing in your songs with get your an explicit rating = no music show, no awards. This is why “clean versions” are released

[@sanrad7439]

War of hormon has the funniest MV ever, really don’t care about all idiots who attack them because of this song. I love it. What would happened if JK’s Seven come out in that time. 😂😂😂

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Omg people would be so mad.

[@JesusOurLordandSavior]

That would be even worse, he would still be a teen and talking about making babies 7 days a week.....

[@aishwaryaahirrao]

​@@JesusOurLordandSavior😂

[@asiaha78]

The correct translation is 여자들은 방정식 우리 남자들은 해 (Yup) The girls are equations, and us guys are solutions (Yup)

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Thanks 😊

[@memoria.7]

"Woman is the best gift" 🎁

[@m8p499]

Actually its just in translation. Girls are like equation, we just do them. Its only because in the west "do" has a sexual conotation. Buts its like Girls are like equation we solve them. Its like girls being a puzzle to men. But the translation given is we just do them, meaning you do the equation, you solve it.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Oh ok that makes sense

[@Lydia-rb8so]

25:00 Their duality, yes!

[@TripTipsPodcast]

👍💜

[@giny2633]

I don't know if you recognize me hahaha, but I'm a true feminist and I'm also an corporate social responsibility analyst educated in issues such as gender equality. And I did not see an issue in the song "War Of Harmone". Maybe if they were 40 year old grown men, that wrote these lyrics then I'd think they were just ignorant of the social stance of women. But teenage boys talking about their own hormones going crazy, which is literally what happens and there's no controlling it? It's actually the funniest song. Also about female rappers, I hope your view can change over a long time. It's women taking back the image on women. We can have sex, we can be dirty, we can be nasty. But we are not a man's object, we own ourselves and we own our own image.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Yes we don’t care what anyone does with their own body. Everyone has their own right to do what they want. I personally don’t like hearing women that rap degrading themselves. The only thing I can do is just not listen to it.

[@melvaburke2608]

​@@TripTipsPodcast🙏 I Agree! (wap) Didn't Like It! I Mean, Why!! 🙏 ..My Humble Opinion.. 💜 *Watching from New⚘️Jersey, USA 😎

[@TripTipsPodcast]

@@melvaburke2608 Thanks for watching and for your support 😊

[@Берутольдо]

yeah there is a difference between women talking about THEMSELVES sexually and men obviously objectifying women

[@TripTipsPodcast]

@@Берутольдо very true

[@silviaabidzar2901]

OMG, i wish everyday is monday 😂 Love your Reaction 💜

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Thank you for sticking with us 🙏❤️

[@JesusOurLordandSavior]

I know, but they also release throughout the week, so thats okay, some is not Bts related but thats okay, others deserve recognition as well, but I am mainly here for Bts.

[@HailToTheMeep]

The other song got trashed because it was under “BTS” which was considered “idols” and are held in what I see as unrealistic standard. That early solo “Do You” was a “mixtape”. In their solo personas, the rap line aren’t bound by the idol’s expectations and can do or say whatever they want. I guess that’s why SUGA has an alter ego called Agust D. Who we think have both merge now into the man Yoongi.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Oh that makes sense

[@angelinasantos8516]

Muito obrigada pela reação.

[@bell3320]

You have to remember that the majority of accusations come or start from antis. they will twist everything and then spread it around making it look like a big problem. leading public opinion to bring down BTS careers. danger & war of hormones was the moment when I started to interested in BTS, and I didn't feel offended in the slightest when I heard those lyrics it's just a playful song that describes the feelings of a teenage boy for me.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

👍👍

[@karenagen6757]

Great reaction as usual

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Thank you 😊

[@Department_of_Justice]

"Do them" was a inappropriately translated lyric. It's an innuendo in English slang. That whole attack was ridiculously blatant anti behavior, though considering their lack of clout at that time, it could have been fatal to the group & agency... which was the bully's objective.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

I saw. It’s so sad.

[@eileencritchley4630]

It has 3 meaning here in the UK depending on the situation but it's mainly non sexual however it's is a threat of violence. Eg 'I'll f~king do ya' If you hear that from some large angry red faced bloke my advice is to move away asap. otherwise you're likely to get punched in the face. Also it can be simply mean 'Be yourself eg do you' which is the way RM use's it.

[@MaritesTalastas-n5q]

❤❤❤ wow congrats for growing subscribers.chapter 7 here i come...thanks a lot Army..

[@TripTipsPodcast]

@@MaritesTalastas-n5q thanks 😊

[@yammylattan2821]

As expected ...great reaction

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Thank you 😊

[@kimjames16]

As a Korean, I really like your reactions! Korea is not a conservative society, but foreign kpop fans are really left-wing! Korea has been very tolerant of high-sex physical contact since ancient times because men also wear makeup and the concept of lgbt is very recent from the United States! No one would think it's a lgbt even if they hug each other on the streets of Korea. Because of this cultural difference between Asia and the West, foreign fans especially Western fans accept kpop in a lgbt-friendly way, so foreign kpop fans seem to have a lot of leftists. I think I saw the news that there are over 100 gender in the United States! I think you are good people who value freedom and capitalism. FYI, I think there are a lot of late left wing feminists who are supposed to be communists in kpop fandom I am sorry that I am not good at English😭📃📃

[@kimjames16]

I'm looking forward to your reaction this time, too! Common Sense Reactors Rare to See!

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Great observation on the West. Everything you’d said is pretty spot on. Your English is perfect by the way.😊

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Thanks hope you enjoy 😊

[@wiwikwijayati9891]

I like your reactions. I learn to kpop. Indonesia kpop verry femous

[@TripTipsPodcast]

@@wiwikwijayati9891 Thanks 😊

[@aldilinanascimento3524]

Realmente gosto muito de suas reações.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Thank you we appreciate your support 👍💜👍💜

[@lealarsen2017]

the channel of rise of bangtan is not the original owner. it was reuploaded again on a diffrent channel from another army. because the maker quit her YT channel. so they got permission from her to reupload it. the original videos had over a million views but the creator didn´t want any money from this. this was just made as a hobby for her. that´s why she can upload all the clips and music without it being blocked because she dont own it. she just edit it togehter to make it into a story format for fans to watch. it´s really amazing. imagine trying to find the right clip to use and then in the end she always show a conclusion to what the episode is about. she is really amazing at putting it all togehter.

[@lealarsen2017]

the original creator has over 200k subscribers i think and she only had this serie.. nothing else on her channel

[@TripTipsPodcast]

I heard! That blew my mind. I feel so bad for the person that made this amazing series. She should get compensated. Most people don’t understand the amount of work it takes to make content consistently. I feel bad for the owner.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Wow.

[@Gg-wq8uu]

In “War of Hormones” The phrase in the song about the equation. I think it’s all in the interpretation. I interpret it as males trying to understand or figure out females. As always people will interpret things the way they want. With that said the English translations are not exact so…. Agreed there are songs out that are worse. Again thank you for your reaction. 💜

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Agreed👍

[@marinal.]

Hi, I am back. Good reaction, ty. RM is the 4 oldest in the group. I don't consider them all to be the same age. It's actually not often that a younger member is the leader. Bang PD is so deep. He is such an innovator. Adore his forward & thoughtful thinking. I have never been to any concert before 2023 period! But now I am open to BTS if they come to NYC. A twt moot was telling me they have done performances in the past in Citified and another stadium in NJ. So 2 hrs trip by bus and train for me. Wince. There is also a stadium in the Bronx they could use. The ticket acquisition leaves me scared though if this occurs. So i have been asking moots to buy a ticket for me. And i finally went to D1 LI NY for Suga's D-Day tour. It was my very 1st concert ever and I am 4 years an army. He slayed so good. I also saw JK at Global Citizens Festival. He was great too.I have watched concerts online and in cinemas too. All great experiences. =0] Adore Born Singer. It is a fab song no MV though. Many cry. It's so heartfelt. There are 3 versions updates of the song. I had fun rewatching with u. Hugs. -NY USA 2019 Army💟

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Aww thanks! hugs from Las Vegas 🤝💜💜💜💜

[@marinal.]

yvw @@TripTipsPodcast

[@T____BTS7]

kim namjoon the true definition of the ultimate leader please

[@haifayassin2842]

He became a leader at a young age, 19 years and he is only one year older than jimin and V

[@TripTipsPodcast]

That’s a ton of responsibility

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Seriously

[@haifayassin2842]

@DANDJREACT ofcourse, Rm has suffered all the hate bts gets alone. In the beginning he used to translate hateful comments to good ones to the boys since they didn't understand English. Still now he still receives hate. Two days back he opened up to us ,that there's a moment he wanted to just die cause of the so much hate he used to get, but now he realised that many love him ,he no longer cares about what haters say about him. We have solos in the fandom who only love one member and hate on the rest,ever since RM assured as about the reunion of 2025,many become mad,cause their want their favourite to go solo ,yet non of wants to go.Also other fandoms want bts to disband, cause they think bts is limiting other groups to shine which isn't true,they focus more on bts than the groups they support. And even if bts disbands,there's no guarantee that those groups can be bts.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

@@haifayassin2842 yea that has nothing to do with not letting other bands get their spotlight. If those other bands were good they’ll get spotlight

[@Hehehehehehe7]

1:20 Same bro, how the lyrics r mysogynistic, These r kinda flirty tho bt not something against women ig. People were just crazy abt how to put BTS down.. 5:03 Other kpop group also have mentors to advice them, i think every company do this for their idols' introspection. Also, there r many companies who want their idols to write music (under company's guidance) like Bighit do 😅

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Got it 👍

[@Hehehehehehe7]

@@TripTipsPodcast 💜❤

[@eileencritchley4630]

But you forgot to mention that didn't happened until BTS made it popular. Before then only a tiny few were able to take part in the song writing. BTS were even looked down upon for doing it. It was BTS artist freedom that other companies realised was a tool they weren't really using and maybe their groups could get as big as BTS if they tried getting some of their groups member a bit more involved in writing lyric's.

[@anneprendergast7834]

To my dying day, I’ll think that the criticism of war of hormone is from people with zero sense of humour, willing to find offence at the slightest thing.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Exactly

[@geraldinebayok1435]

Bts💜💜💜

[@haifayassin2842]

Also kpop fans are so toxic,they pay attention more on bts alot on everything they do,recently they accused RM for inserting Islam by just listening to the song called bad religion which has nothing to do with the religion. Imagine accusing some just be listening to a song just cause the own has his own bad history but want to impose it on RM, how the two related. The hate for bts among other fandoms has made them lose reasoning.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

I noticed the toxicity as soon as I got into this space

[@haifayassin2842]

@DANDJREACT it's too much to an extent of spending death threats to the boys, stalking them ,being picky on their personal lives,but the only way to avoid them is blocking them cause even if you explain to them they don't listen .Although they are many good fans but the loudest one's are the toxic ones. The media uses that toxicity on social media to worsen the situation.

[@JesusOurLordandSavior]

And I love that he didnt apologize for that BS accusation, he said he didnt mean to offend anyone, also, he didnt even write the song but listened and liked it, why didnt they go after the creator instead...

[@eileencritchley4630]

@@JesusOurLordandSavior Also the song was about the singers own story were he was questioning his own Christian teachings from the Roman Catholic Church it had nothing whatsoever to do with Islam.

[@madmaddox1139]

When the not-dry feline song is even more mysoginist than the WOH song. And yet people are more receptive of it than that. I grew up in the MTV generation so I have seen my fair share of pop culture. I can name in my hand the current artists now with million followers not batting an eye for objectification of people, dr*g use and other stuff in their lyrics and mvs. People have really skewed morals tssk. Btw, really enjoyed rewatching this with you. Borahae 💜

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Thanks for your comment. We appreciate you taking the time to watch our video. 💜💜

[@T____BTS7]

bts intro+ No+we are bulletproof mama 2019 please

[@njjm5003]

I love that....one of my favourite performances

[@TripTipsPodcast]

We’ll check it out

[@mariamfaizul2839]

💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

[@AnaMower-x2e]

This song war of hormones, first time i heard it lol i do not heard anything wrong is like a teenager going thru their hormones lol I heard worse words from other artist that are more vulgar and explicit. That's what I love about them off stage they are like kids, always playing around , they still humble and active on Vlive all the time.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Love this song.

[@lindafarsi8098]

It wasn’t bad, the haters made it a big deal. They We’re teenagers and young men.

[@bereasonable8018]

I would definitely vote for Namjoon (RM) as my leader.

[@T____BTS7]

AGUSTD D-day+ Huh please

[@TripTipsPodcast]

We’ll work on it

[@raenikuletz2673]

Translations were lost Equation we just solve them is the word maybe Like the problem for courting a girl is a hard equation to solve right?

[@CChanHI]

The translation should be girls are an equation, us guys just SOLVE them

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Yea for sure

[@eileencritchley4630]

RM is right in the middle so 3 are older and 3 are younger than he is. Jin being the older and there's 5 years between Jin the oldest and Jungkook the youngest.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Thanks for the info

[@shanis_kim95]

War or hormones era is the time abecame a bts army 2014 War of Hormones is my face song of them I'm 28 and im still A BTS Army 4 life 🇵🇷👉🏾👈🏾💜💜

[@TripTipsPodcast]

You’ve been a fan for a longtime wow🤩

[@shanis_kim95]

@@TripTipsPodcast yes I have borahe blood 4 Life love your reaction guys 🇵🇷🫰🏾🫶🏾

[@TripTipsPodcast]

@@shanis_kim95 thanks for the support 💜

[@eileencritchley4630]

It's glorifying drugs it's about just being yourself it' against drugs and plastic surgery just to fit in be seen as the beautiful in the Korean standard for beauty it's very anti all the toxic stuff and saying just be yourself.( Do You) When you see the whole song you'll get it.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Thanks for sharing this with us

[@ashlee4063]

In America its okay, just a normal song with explicit version.. but in Korea and other asian countries some people are conservative on explicit version

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Makes sense

[@eileencritchley4630]

But there was nothing explicit to the song.

[@LPnerd]

It was haters that looked for reasons to go after them. Many were paid to do it by the big # agencies. In fact they took it to court and won. The song WOH, was explaining how boys in their teens and 20's deal with it that war. What I found ridiculous is The K pop girls dress and dance like window dressing in Amsterdam and yet this song was bad? I just laughed about this. RM took it very seriously. Haters kept picking until they found the week link. J Hope, our sunshine took this to heart. ARMY took to twitter and trended;"#J-Hope you are perfect," for a month!

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Haters will never stop unfortunately

[@LPnerd]

@@TripTipsPodcast it's much less since Big Hit has gone after them in court. They even published warning on weverse that no mercy would be given. It's Korean law that once a case has been accepted to court, no one can speak about it publicly until post verdict and charges. So, we don't learn about it until after.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

@@LPnerd I see

[@aliciaenriquezk]

💜💜💜🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽💜💜💜

[@sherb9841]

As a feminist - there is nothing wrong with the song War of Hormone. They were kids and that’s kind of your experience as a kid lol. Hormones. I will say tho - Korea is much more conservative as a society so you don’t see explicit lyrics often if ever in the mainstream.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Makes sense

[@Rox7ne]

I'm gonna copy the comment-essay-rant I made on another video about War of Hormone bcs honestly it's SO frustrating 😂: ​I personally never saw it as misogynistic but as the perspective of a guy simply mentioning what attracted them to a girl. In WOH, they literally say "girls are a gift" and even a lyric that was translated as "women are like an equation, us guys are the solution" also translated as "women are an equation, us guys do them" and it's those small instances in translation that can also generate misunderstandings, like with the change in "do them". Bcs it's been analyzed by many that, yeah you can take it with your interpretation (as them being misogynistic), but I've seen many ARMYs agreeing that it can also mean that the lyrics explains that, if the "equation" of women/girls equal the "answer" aka guys/men, BTS actually meant that men and women are equal. And if they acknowledged the so-called "problem" in the lyrics, it was bcs of the backlash. Bcs they realized their lyrics could be seen as misogynistic but it doesn't mean that was their intention in the meaning of those lyrics. They realized the lyrics could be hurtful, but that doesn't mean it was intended to be hurtful or that everyone thought that. And like I said, to me, personally, there was no misogyny. My country's native language is spanish (I'm latin american) and ppl listen to raeggaeton 24/7, and most of those lyrics and mvs are misogynistic AF. And honestly?? From what friends living in the US tell me, ppl love reggaeton over there (and even love songs like WAP bcs that's somehow female empowerment when the only thing it does, imo is give more leeway for women sexualization bcs it's now "acceptable" then) but that aspect is never mentioned bcs of the language barrier and ppl simply bopping to them; the songs translated to english can even sound very romantic bcs like I've said, the translation will never be the same as the OG song's meaning. So it's not to excuse but to also remember that essence in lyrics is lost, especially in languages like korean or japanese, where many translations will never even capture a bit of the meaning due to english having no word for the emotion/feeling described. 🤷‍♀🤷‍♀🤷‍♀🤷‍♀ So honestly haters will always nitpick anything, even if it's an innocent song 😂

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Thank you for your detailed response 💜💜

[@T____BTS7]

💜💜🇩🇿 more BTS 👑

[@TripTipsPodcast]

More coming Check out our video premieres for release dates

[@MariaHannahPuller]

are youu noww partt of the ARMY?????? PLEASE HAVE ANNOUNCEMENT SOON IF YOU ARE!! WE ARE WAITING AND GLAD TO WELCOME YOU TO THE FAMILY!!! BORAHAE!! 💜

[@TripTipsPodcast]

I think posting this once would be sufficient

[@mihriy2758]

I love your bts reaction videos. You should react to bts festa videos

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Thank you we’ll check them out 😊💜😊💜

[@choym8730]

Yes please specially their 2022 festa dinner💜

[@TripTipsPodcast]

@@choym8730 👍👍

[@shre33]

the FANS didnot perceive them as misogynistic its an organised hate from fans of groups that bts was catching upto at this time and even the companies of these groups paying media to write negative articles and tarnish their image among the general public its all just ridiculous mediaplay

[@heatherkulet3467]

The original creator of the rise of bangtan is aneesa she deleted her KZbin account this was re-uploaded already it's is so sad that she deleted the account because of haters, she can no longer manage the account because of personal reasons 😢 but glad that I personally supported her from the beginning and sad at the same time because she did not finish the series she says there are 2 more episodes supposed to be but sadly was not able to finish it

[@TripTipsPodcast]

I wonder what the last two episodes were going to be about?

[@heatherkulet3467]

Sadly she said she won't do it no more 😭😭

[@heatherkulet3467]

I am just sad because with all the effort and time she spent to create the series is a lot of work and she is an army since 2013 f..k the haters telling she spend the donated money for personal use but not she have all the receipt

[@TripTipsPodcast]

@@heatherkulet3467 that’s messed up.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

@@heatherkulet3467 wow. She shouldn’t let people bother her

[@B16pal]

It was complete b***sh** & hypocrisy for antis and media to zero in on BTS and this one song in an *entire industry* that's 100% laser-focused on making sure their idols are thin and attractive; not to mention the kpop fandom (both male and female) who lose their minds over idols they think are hot....ARMYs these days are never going to be able to see/hear this song live and I am pissed because it's one of my favorites thanks to that slammin' guitar

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Yea it sucks

[@HailToTheMeep]

Kpop stans are a bunch of drama heads. There are here not for the music, but for the hate, the drama, the power trip. Hopefully ARMY, their fanbase, is different. I think they are.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

👍👍

[@DarkWing494]

Here is my (older Asian male) perspective. Feminist is outraged by being treated as a sex object and be thrist over so bluntly. So the boys have learn how to show it more smoothly, the way that most female would be comfortable with to be "real man/not misogyny" to them. 😂

[@TripTipsPodcast]

😂❤️

[@serenity3209]

This is not the original video of the ROB Ep07… 🤔I wonder the owner of this channel with this ROB 07 credited the original channel of Rise of Bangtan🤔

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Thanks for watching and for your support 😊💜

[@aliciaenriquezk]

I didn’t see the chapter 6? Is not up?

[@BAMMIE7613]

yes it is

[@TripTipsPodcast]

That came out last Monday Look in our BTS or RoB playlist

[@TripTipsPodcast]

@@BAMMIE7613 👍

[@aliciaenriquezk]

👍🏻

[@secretyidentity2833]

I haven’t even finished the reaction but I wanted to share my thoughts on the misogynistic lyrics thing. As a woman I have no issue with a song like “Boy in Luv”, bc it is just describing *A* high school crush (and it could be from a man or a woman). “Women are the best gift, gift” “Who said women are cold icebergs, let it go/Females that make me go crazy, they stimulate me every day” - However, lyrics like this in War of Hormone go beyond the “crush” and start objectifying and generalizing ALL women, basically idolizing and “mystifying” their nature, instead of treating them as humans, I do find it dehumanizing, it makes me feel like bc I’m a woman I’m supposed to be put on a pedestal (I never asked for) to have my beauty (as if that’s the only thing I have of value) to be admired by men. “Her hair, body, waist, legs, and areas that can’t be said. If anyone SAYS HE’s not interested in them, I’d be dumbfounded AS A MAN” - this one is a bonus one bc it means gay men didn’t exist in the BTS lyrical universe yet (this is a joke ofc, but this lyric does also kinda erase the existence of men who just aren’t attracted to women, or at very least places some heavy judgment on them for “saying” they aren’t interested). Anyways, the boys, as all of us, are human who are products of their environment (a misogynist society that teaches boys from a very young age to objectify women). I care much more abt their reaction and response once they were called out than the fact they ever wrote these lyrics. And my respect and love for them only grew from how they handled the situation, specially RMs openness in an interview they did a while back where he talks abt how he received a lot of criticism abt his lyrics regarding misogyny and it made him do a lot of self reflection abt if he hadn’t been dismissive of women’s struggles and how he talked abt women in his earlier songs. I understand many vintage (older) army don’t find a problem with the lyrics, but I see many younger army’s who did/do, that to me solidifies that we are walking towards a more critical society where this kind of language and attitude towards women, specially young girls in school isn’t normalized. That’s just my take on it. War of Hormone is definitely a skip for me and I’m glad they’ve learnt from this.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

I thought it was a little overblown. However I know why the media was trying to attack. They hate how successful BTS are.

[@secretyidentity2833]

@@TripTipsPodcast yeah, I wasn’t around back then, I listened to the song on my own and didn’t really like it bc of the lyrics and later found out ppl had this issue with it as well. Bts aren’t perfect ppl. I do think they deserved criticism for it, but it should come from a place of understanding and leave them enough room to apologize and change (which they have), not relentlessly put them down for their mistakes. I think any army who has had an issue with the song has been respectfully critic of it, but bc of how toxic the kpop fan scene is many fans from other groups and K-pop journalists will use this as ammunition to hate on BTS and make the issue a lot bigger than it ever needed to be. Regardless, this is definitely something that’s in the past and that armys and BTS have moved on from.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

@@secretyidentity2833 they have moved on and 100% learned from that experience. At the end of the day you know for a fact these boys didn’t make this song to purposely hurt anyone. They wouldn’t do that.

[@eileencritchley4630]

Do them as in we have to solve the them eg we don't understand them yet not something sexual.

[@yasminesb7947]

RM's song "Do You" isn't about drugs or sex at all, I'll explain it to you the day you'll react to it. Also "War Of Hormone" isn't misogynistic at all, as you said a lot of corporations wanted to shut BTS down, already early in their career, it appeared that BTS were becoming the most popular korean group in the US and for those corporations it was out of question to be humiliated by a group coming from a small independant label.. So since they were already owning a large portion of the mainstream medias, they made sure to release tons of deffamatory and negative articles against BTS, it was honestly the hell for BTS to endure... They used wrong translation of the lyrics and the scandal became so big that BigHit were forced to apologize because they still had no power and a lot of debts at the time.... Even the editor of this series used the wrong translation (especially Suga's verse), you can check the right ones on the original MV or Genius or Doolset.... Keep in mind the editor is a kpop fan in general not just BTS, so sometimes she blurred the lines or twisted some contexts to spare the other groups or labels. Also often medias check the social medias and pick what the haters are spreading about BTS even if its wrong and release articles without fact-checking... there was even a big scandal where haters were literaly contacting and feeding medias with fake infos regarding a political affair involving Japan, and a lot of medias including overseas ones like The Guardian, Billboard or NYTimes headlined it without fact-checking.. You'll come to that affair and I'll give more details.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

I put war of hormone on one of the voting polls coming up. You think it’ll start drama on my channel if I react to it?

[@JesusOurLordandSavior]

​@@TripTipsPodcastNo, Armys know what the concept and storyline, its only people who dont like Bts or dont know about them and their music process that will start.

[@yasminesb7947]

Nooo at all... ARMY will love it@@TripTipsPodcast

[@TripTipsPodcast]

@@JesusOurLordandSavior I’m still going to post it. 😁

[@rdmname]

i seriously don't know what drove those wannabe feminists. if a guy tells them women are great, they're misogynist according to them, if a guy tells them they can't do something cause they're female, they're misogynist. those two don't even compare. if a woman is offended by being called a gift, there's something substantially wrong with her and her relationship with being female, her perception of herself as a woman. those fake feminists are imposing their usual complaints on them by reading more into the lyrics than there is by habit. it's completely thoughtless and is simply the most basic expression of lesser emotional, impulsive responses. the guys still had a teenage mindset regarding dating etc., so it's only understandable how they're describing their experiences of noticing women more and what going through puberty/end of puberty does to them as men. i can't think of one single song that talks about male hormones during or after puberty, especially in shocking honesty. it's still done tastefully, they're not like " damn those titties are great!" even if that's what they might actually think. so what? a guy liking or being attracted to the female body is a bad thing now? what do those women actually want? if a guy is being honest it's considered offensive but it's actually something they're demanding. it's psychotic. they were also complaining about converse high, where they're expressing their preferences, saying they like this one girl even more when she's wearing her converse. they're simply expressing their discovery of personal preferences or a type they fall for more easily. it's nothing to be mad about. we, as a society, need to stop treating attraction or love as a currency or a checklist. we need to stop creating an environment of where sameness is desirable and pretend that's normal, shaming everything that's different. love lies in our differences and accepting otherness, not in forced sameness. conclusion: you can't fix stupid. sorry for the long ass rant, dearly, a feminist with common sense.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

No worries. I think you spoke for 95% of us 🙏💜

[@eileencritchley4630]

Just so you know we can't read what's on the screen as you need to enlarge the screen a bit more.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Ok thanks

[@bada2839]

Nothing wrong in War of Hormone neither any of the other songs, no ARMY thinks is misogynist, just haters hating.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

I figured

[@valenciabegay3489]

I am almost 65 and I don’t get why there was a negative reaction to this song. Even the lyric they are an equation we just do them. What is an equation? Adding up things and to me they are adding up what appeals to them ina female. Women do the same thing with men. I feel this was way too negative against them. I feel it was the people who don’t like them who brought up this negativity. I love and think they are amazing! 💜👏🏽🫶🏽😊

[@TripTipsPodcast]

I think so too

[@geli8097]

I really hope you will react to born singer in the future. It's such an awesome song.💜

[@TripTipsPodcast]

We’ll check it out

[@amandaheimbach7283]

War of hormone I love that song. I don’t understand why they get so offended there are worse songs out there.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

I don’t either

[@sanggeetha8355]

Korean culture don't talk or write lyrics like cursing words.that's why

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Oh I see

[@TheTwil1]

There isn’t anything wrong with the songs. What you have are Karen’s from other fandoms (notably exo and big bang) trying to create controversies. Not to mention underhanded tactics used by competing labels. ARMY has damning receipts. BTS was never meant to be successful. It’s an incredibly dog eat dog situation in South Korea as most if not all their power is soft power, and the music industry had a nice little racket going on. See “Burning Sun Scandal “ that’s just the tip of the iceberg.

[@TripTipsPodcast]

I see

[@leighwalton959]

I agree that the war of hormone controversy was ridiculous, but your comments about female singers embracing their own sexuality disturbed me. You come off a bit ignorant. I had to stop the video at that point

[@TripTipsPodcast]

We will be reacting to war of hormone in a few weeks. Can’t wait 😊

[@michellemichougraham198]

As a Caribbean/West Indian Army Mom who've been with BTS. Since 2015. And LONG BEFORE "D&J React - YT Chanel - drawn into the Massive World Wide BTS ?? Really - Sir and Son? Do you have 'any' Idea....how many of us ( Global Army) have seen 'You' both? ....reacting to BTS vids? ......Thanks @njjm5003.....💜💜. Kinda watching this 'Dad n Son' channel and not convinced. Son seems like the type who probs murdered his GF like 2 yrs ago......never found her body (father helped him. Made SURE - type thing). .Probs good to keep an eye on these TWO?? And any 'Missing Girlies' in their 'Aussie State'. One never knows 😑😑. D&J React: Also Son? I remember the 'Night/day' you reacted to a BTS vid.......on your own. Years ago. We Loved your BTS reactions. ..... Borahea 💜💜💜💜

[@TripTipsPodcast]

Awe thank you so much for all your love and kind words of support. We’re so happy to hear how much you love each of us and our channel. Your love and support means the world 🌎 to both of us. Thank you so much for being our #1 super fans and supporters. You’re the best 😊💜😊💜

[@MariaHannahPuller]

are youu noww partt of the ARMY?????? PLEASE HAVE ANNOUNCEMENT SOON IF YOU ARE!! WE ARE WAITING AND GLAD TO WELCOME YOU TO THE FAMILY!!! BORAHAE!! 💜

[@MariaHannahPuller]

are youu noww partt of the ARMY?????? PLEASE HAVE ANNOUNCEMENT SOON IF YOU ARE!! WE ARE WAITING AND GLAD TO WELCOME YOU TO THE FAMILY!!! BORAHAE!! 💜

[@TripTipsPodcast]

I’m pretty sure we are. Take a look at our channel and watch our videos. I mean we even created a new video series dedicated to BTS teaching us how to speak Korean.

[@MariaHannahPuller]

yeyyyy!! but u gotta announce that cause the armys will be glad if u make it official and trust me we will support you all the wayyyy! @@TripTipsPodcast