Two-State Solution Debate | Manal Cheema | Proposition

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The Motion: This House Believes a Two-State Solution in the Middle East is Unattainable.
Manal Cheema opens the case for the Proposition, as the first speaker of eight in the debate.
The speaker in this video is a competitive debater, and therefore the views expressed may not necessarily represent his or her beliefs.
The motion was defeated.
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[@jakeandrews8393]

upload these in a logical or numbered order please. cmon

[@AlejandroMartinezVelasco]

You can access the playlist which displays the videos in order.

[@byronmaxad9679]

lol words like understanding, democracy being banded about. I wouldnt like to say it is a simple problem but what it boils down to is power. Israel has power so it has the right to subject Palestine to whatever it sees fit.

[@brandenmerritt1]

That doesn't make what Israel is doing right or moral

[@byronmaxad9679]

in what world do you live???? what is right what is moral ... invasion of iraq ? afghanistan? expansion of nato ? ...voltaire burke and rest of ur old idealists r dead... all ov the west follow the ideals of Machiavelli and the protection of ur nation states is the upmost importance even if it mean "selling ur soul 2 the devil"

[@byronmaxad9679]

***** how did ukno................. vagina u caught me out how did u kno i was a corbyn supporter :)

[@byronmaxad9679]

toddjon stevenson love the way u speak like Israel got no help at all. Like it didn't have support from the superpowers of the world. I applaud the mental gymnastics you performed

[@byronmaxad9679]

gee shaggy hve a scooby snack

[@HM-yv9xk]

I enjoy the way they jest but become serious when necessary.

[@winistan]

I like her so I will agree with whatever she says

[@pingadol1555]

I'm waiting for Harry Potter to pop out of her snatch.

[@thomasmcenery5035]

she would look down upon you if you met her. even if you are more moral or intelligent than she is. university has gone to heads of these entitled narcissistic women.

[@adamp_]

@@thomasmcenery5035 are you ok Thomas?

[@137mathe]

I would like to see also a Kurdish Issue in Turkey, or more broadly in the middle east, debate.

[@asafaie217]

Reality is none of these "countries" in the middle east should have been created in the first place. People from all backgrounds lived in peace and harmony under Ottoman rule for centuries until the Brits fucked it all up

[@nirprizant4228]

@@asafaie217bull shite the ottoman rould with an iron fist and killing people just like that with no trial using the hazuk method off executing innocent people on the stabs off the police station fence and the Arabs were ever they were wonted to get read off them and self roull the British made it possible just like they made it possible for us to create the state off israel

[@luisyouchicago2238]

@@asafaie217 Under ottomans rules, fir the first few hundred years it was massacres by the ottomans against everyone else. Yes they lived in harmony and fear. Your stupidity and ignorance is funny

[@asafaie217]

@@luisyouchicago2238 hey moron that was the case in every corner of the world in the middle ages. Wasn't specific to Ottomans ya nimwit.

[@user-kc6zh8rf1z]

@@asafaie217 "peace and harmony under Ottoman rule " huh. Armenians and Assyrians who were massacred under the Ottoman flag do not agree with you.

[@martinwhyms2806]

Fantastic x

[@RakidulAlam]

excellent

[@jojacs221]

BDS.... Or BDSM......a womanizer and cocktails party.....so prove a point by attacking the debater instead of the debate

[@nananananananananana1926]

It's traditional for the Oxford Union debaters to make a joke for each member of the opposite side of the House.

[@aziebtefferi6376]

ONE STATE SOLUTION!!! Equal rights must be given to the Palestinians as Israelis. The two state solution is dead and buried ages ago.

[@gili41]

Unfortunatly its impossible as well, once israel will opened all the borders and remove the security fans terror will start in the israeli cities. I dont see solution for this conflict

[@SyrianApostate]

@@gili41 Had you not shipped in millions of foreigners to a land they don't belong to (without employing extreme mental and historical gymnastics) then there would have been no conflict to begin with

[@gili41]

@@SyrianApostate did you ask yourself who started the war in 1948 to begin with? israel accepted the partition plan made by britian, its the arabs that didnt and started a war, thinking they will be able to kill all the jews and have all the land, but surprise, they lost snd now they are crying? You got to pay for your aggression, and 750,000 arabs left during that war, not millions, they become millions now. So you want us yo bring all the millions now to israel? Nice joke, guess what they will do then....and the millions of jews that came to israel are not immigrants, they are the owners of this land that was occupied

[@AdvocateSpirit]

@@SyrianApostate About 700,000 of the Jews that came to the land were from middle Eastern countries that forced them to leave. Some were killed over there. Really strong anti-semitism. Not quite "shipped" in. More like fleeing

[@mortef]

@@gili41 You know fully well how israel look at international agreements, it's pure hasbarah cherry-picking. "None, with the possible exception of the 1948 War of Independence, were what Israelis call "wars of necessity." They were all wars of choice-or, worse, folly." - Zeev Maoz. "We must understand the motives and causes of the continued emigration of the Palestinian Arabs, from both the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, and not to undermine these causes after all, we want to create a new map." -Moshe Dayan.

[@gagansinghbatth5604]

just imaged to see canny way of targeting the opposition

[@gagansinghbatth5604]

instead the every debate is very well prepared and covered ..............................

[@megshan09]

'At Oxfaaard! Woof it's really scary

[@andrespena2382]

What a stupid debate. This looks like a game for children .

[@HoldenNY22]

She is pretty and speaks well. I didn't hear an English accent from her. Is she American or an American Immrigrant?

[@ChannelMath]

these kids are so bored

[@attiqjanjua4621]

I agree with Manal CheeMa. truth is truth.

[@zeeve284]

All are lies, excuses, and blaming the Jews for the stupidity of the Arabs. That's not the way to resolve the problem!

[@Truth2Eyes]

Palestine state thats demilitarized is not sovereignty? Tell that to Costa Rica that has no military:)

[@theendlesslights]

So a fairly low Israeli support for a two state solution is a reason why you shouldn't do a two state solution but an insanely low support for a 1 state solution isn't proof you shouldn't do it? This woman is a hypocrite

[@SyrianApostate]

600k Israeli illegal settlers in the west bank are a reason not to do it. 600k reasons infact. Are you willing to evacuate them?

[@theendlesslights]

@@SyrianApostate Yes

[@SyrianApostate]

@@theendlesslights I'm sorry but I don't believe you and even if I did, it wouldn't really matter. Because your opinion doesn't count as much as that of your new prime minister and you can go ahead and look up what he thinks about a Palestinian state if you don't know already. The fact is no Israeli government has ever truly wanted to allow a Palestinian state. The Israeli government likes the status quo in the west bank very much as they continue to swallow more and more of its fragmented territory. Naftali Bennett is only more honest since hes stated the facts clearly, Israel intends to annex the majority of the west bank into Israel proper while continuing the illegal occupation in the remaining parts. Thanks to Bennett Israel is now officially and without doubt an apartheid state. Congratulations.

[@davidradaku5869]

WE SHOULD LISTEN THE PALESTINIANS TOO!TO JUDGE AND THINK IN THE RIGHT WAY!

[@zeeve284]

She is Palestinian. You literally listened to a Palestinian.

[@jonsmith9379]

Who gives a shit.. The fact is that we Americans don't care and are sick of hearing about it.. It's the region's issue, not the world's.. If the entire area disappeared, then we'd be just as happy and relieved..

[@zachary813]

If you want peace, teach peace; stop teaching Jew-hate.

[@DonMrLenny]

what about the palestinian part at the fall of the oslo agreements im sure that they are truly "innocent"

[@leary4]

How about a state and a state-let.

[@ariesfirst]

Once the Palestinians will embrace reality and will agree to receive all they CAN as opposed to all which they WANT there will be peace.

[@hassanm2357]

Alex's Channel .. Lol , the Whole world knows who doesn't want peace .. Israhell has no intention for peace. The only goal is have the whole land and to declare ita Jewish State to fulfil the zionistic dream ( Evangelicals in Us may also self fulfil the prophecy lol) Get your head up and speak openly , stop this hypocrisy .. Dont worry no one is able to stop you .. So enjoy you golden era.

[@lp.m302]

NONSENSE

[@Danny-bv6zv]

0:23 hehe ? :D

[@thomasellner6331]

Why should Israel refrain from building settlements if Abass refuses all deals ?

[@SyrianApostate]

The reason why Israel builds those settlements in the first place is to stop abbas or any half sensible Palestinian from accepting a two state solution

[@AdvocateSpirit]

@@SyrianApostate so what was stopping the deal before 1967? (Before there were settlements)

[@SyrianApostate]

@@AdvocateSpirit The fact that Israel never accepted for the 750,000 expelled Palestinians to return back to their homes? Let me put to you this way; If I steal your house by force and kick you out to the kerb and then offered to give you back only the toilet would you accept my very generous offer?

[@Desfleeding]

@@SyrianApostate lmao perfectly put. This is what so many people who engage on this issue dont realise. Their overblown sense of nationalism has decayed their minds so much to the point where they start thinking violating someones palestinians human rights and committing decades of war crimes in the name of their religion is acceptable.

[@m.abdurrahmanabed219]

save Palestinian from terror Israel.

[@nightknight669]

Rahman Abed you got it backwards buddy

[@mortef]

@@nightknight669 As an ateist Viking, I'm sure it was Lehi, Haganah and Irgun that brought terrorism to the region, and formed the only terrorist state in history.

[@freetobememe4358]

Brilliant young woman.

[@zeeve284]

An idiot young woman who came up with the worst excuses why there could never be any solution in that region.

[@emilianosintarias7337]

As much as 1 state solution sounds great aren't there several problems she ignores. 1) younger palestinians don't want 1 state with Israelis, they want 1 state and the Israelis to leave 2) the palestinians are muslim, most versions of their religion hate Jews, the arab muslims most of all but the whole muslim world do and they will have influence in the new state 3) the last time jews christians and muslims lived in one polity before zionism (under the ottomans ) the Muslims oppressed the others. The jews were also oppressed as 2nd class citizens in almost all other muslim countries, and 700,000 were displaced to Israel in 48 4) middle east is a culture of revenge, now that the Israelis have oppressed the Palestinians, they will do revenge once they have demographic majoirty inside one state 5. I think the best solution is remove settlements, pay reperation to palestinians, 2 state confederation with a single military. Make Israel the Jewish homeland as a matter of demographic majority but except for that, full legal, linguistic, and religious equality for others living there, and special rules to protect that equality.

[@luisyouchicago2238]

Manal It’s not a conflict ... it’s occupation Only legal countries have the right to defend themselves, Israel doesn’t have that right legally, because it’s an illegal entity ...

[@thejordanianphilosopher6666]

Bullshit emotional nonsense.

[@mebratuhagos3559]

Two state solution is not God's plan for Israel . Ref.Bible (Psalms.83:1-18;Amos.9:14-15;Joel.3:1-3;Ob.17-21;Jer.27:5)

[@ELJason2006]

I don't agree with her at all. But she spoke very eloquently.

[@zeeve284]

She didn't convince me at all, so, no, she was not a good speaker at all.

[@thomasellner6331]

just what thhe world needs anothher terror state .

[@yung_cheezy]

Awful speaker

[@EternalNetzah]

The territory for another Arab state in Israel would be unnatural. It's logical that it will not be fully independent (as she already mentioned with the military part). A simple look at the two state map shows what kind of a twisted idea it would be. I see no problem for Israel keeping Judea and Samaria, and receive back Gaza. Israel proved over and over again that it's a democratic country that protects human rights and respects freedom. In a short period of time, it turned from a developing country to a developed one.

[@EternalNetzah]

***** 1. Israel has two official languages: Hebrew and Arabic. 2. Citizens of Arab decent are as equal as any citizen. 3. Since they are equal as every citizen, they enjoy freedom and have their rights protected just like any citizen. 4. Arabs will usually receive more support due being a minority (Free housing, more time in exams, no need to go to the army and etc) 5. If you are a son to parents who lived in Israel before it's establishment, and denied citizenship, you have the chance to receive at the age of 18 that citizenship and not suffer your parent's decision.

[@EternalNetzah]

***** Do you see them enslaved? Murdered? Raped? Do you see them being censored or not allowed to carry cameras? These Jordanians are in good hands. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law:_Human_Dignity_and_Liberty

[@EternalNetzah]

***** Nope, we are defiantly discussing Jordanians. That are the people you talk about, not Israeli Arabs. You cannot have "Palestinians", since there was never a country called "Palestine". Thus, "Palestinians" would refer to what it was called during British mandate. Defiantly not the same version as these Jordanians try to claim and create a new fake identity. Jordan was also the first attempt for a 2 states for 2 people, which people forgot so now Arabs keep cutting the cake in their favor. We might also call them Syrians, as majority of them decent from there.

[@EternalNetzah]

***** That question you should ask the person. Does he identify more with his citizenship? Does he identify with the country where his parents came from and their (relatively short) history there? Does he identify with this Indian heritage? If he's a normal person, he will identify with all of it. He'll identify as British, and he now builds his history there. He'll identify as a Pakistanis, as that's where he came from (His children however won't), and he'll identify with his Indian heritage as it's also his history and culture. I really doubt that if you ask him, he's going to create a new Identity called "Everest" and declare that his "Everest" people are getting killed, and that they need to create a country in Britain called "Everestina" with it's capital being London.

[@Mas_Tun]

They are not as equal as any other Israeli citizen. Or Commission stated otherwise back in 03, and journalists have pointed out that the discrimination has not improved since. While that happens anywhere, don't take it further by acting like they get even more support because they are minorities. Their communities are underfunded in proportion to the taxes they pay, their schools are eligible for less funding than Jewish schools (including the haredi ones which don't even teach secular subjects), they have trouble getting permits to build or do repairs etc. And there didn't need to be a sovereign Palestinian state for there to be a Palestinian people. They only need to identify themselves as a nation - which they do - who have a common heritage - which they do. A nation is nothing more than an arbitrary social construct which is not dependent on sovereignty. And the majority of them do not come from Syria. That nationalist propaganda on which Joan Peters based her pile of crap book was never taken seriously outside of some echo chambers.

[@deeXaeed]

Israelis don't suffer.

[@davidjesussaves2740]

ISRAEL BELONGS TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE :A common misperception is that the Jews were forced into the diaspora by the Romans after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem in the year 70 A.D. and then, 1,800 years later, suddenly returned to Palestine demanding their country back. In reality, the Jewish people have maintained ties to their historic homeland for more than 3,700 years. A national language and a distinct civilization have been maintained.The Jewish people base their claim to the land of Israel on at least four premises: 1) God promised the land to the patriarch Abraham; 2) the Jewish people settled and developed the land; 3) the international community granted political sovereignty in Palestine to the Jewish people and 4) the territory was captured in defensive wars.The term "Palestine" is believed to be derived from the Philistines, an Aegean people who, in the 12th Century B.C., settled along the Mediterranean coastal plain of what is now Israel and the Gaza Strip. In the second century A.D., after crushing the last Jewish revolt, the Romans first applied the name Palaestina to Judea (the southern portion of what is now called the West Bank) in an attempt to minimize Jewish identification with the land of Israel. The Arabic word "Filastin" is derived from this Latin name.The Twelve Tribes of Israel formed the first constitutional monarchy in Palestine about 1000 B.C. The second king, David, first made Jerusalem the nation's capital. Although eventually Palestine was split into two separate kingdoms, Jewish independence there lasted for 212 years. This is almost as long as Americans have enjoyed independence in what has become known as the United States.Even after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem and the beginning of the exile, Jewish life in Palestine continued and often flourished. Large communities were reestablished in Jerusalem and Tiberias by the ninth century. In the 11th century, Jewish communities grew in Rafah, Gaza, Ashkelon, Jaffa and Caesarea.(www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/The_Jewish_Claim_To_The_Land_Of_Israel.html)

[@robertcovarrubias1109]

Mr. David Jesus Saves, who say these lands belong to the Jewish People. Who told all the Jewish people to leave these lands. Palestine was derived from the Philistines, I have not read that in the BiBle. What resources do you attributed that to. My question to you, why did the Jewish moved out of these lands. What took the Jewish so long to get back to these lands You says that Americans have enjoyed their independence of their lands. Second question, do you know how the United States acquire their lands in America. You do not know that? How did they? Do do you know from the Bible, there is no difference between Jewish and Gentile people ,now? It is stated in the the New Testament, Do you know that? I believe you need to up date your data and information to make it true. I believe you need to read the total Bible and comprehend the real purpose of the Bible. How do these communities flourished as you stated. What do you mean by flourished? Is it something good or bad? Have a nice day.

[@MSufyan01]

Jews were already living their happily. Eastern European Zionists are not Semitic jews

[@davidcorner4507]

this is the kind of idiocy associated with zionist apologists

[@allondb]

Bravo !

[@MSufyan01]

@Frost what does that have to do with the Jews that are not Semitic

[@zonnekat1]

One state solution ... Israël

[@mysticjedi6730]

Better solution; ditch religion and tribalism

[@mongolianbornaparte7217]

She is a Pakistani what else do you expect.

[@zoharsutton8029]

Manal Cheema - we already have a two state solution - its called Israel and Jordan because Jordan is mostly Palestinian.

[@hassanm2357]

MARK SUTTON .. There will be a one state solution ans it will be Palestine .. Now just enjoy yours .. 😉

[@user-qm2xg3zn4n]

The amount of nonsense in this speach is amazing. her conclusion is correct, a tow-state solution is impossible, but not for the reasons that she listed. The land of israel belongs to the jewish pepole, and I am not relying on the bible (eventhough I am religus and belive in the bible). The question that we need to answer is this: is occupying a land from an other people by force gives the occupyer a right to own the occupyed land? however, the answer to this question is actualy irrelevant, because if you say that it does, then israel occupyed the land and has the right to it. And if it is not, the land should be returned to the people that can prove the most ancient ownership of the land, and that people is the jewish people, because the people that were here before us have disappeared a long time ago, and we don't know who their descendants are. therefore, a state for both the palestinians and the jews is completely immposible, not to mention unfair, because none of the tow partys in the conflict will accept it. and should not accept it either.

[@anzhelamagdalene6472]

Only for jewish people??

[@anzhelamagdalene6472]

Your people is selfish.

[@SyrianApostate]

Judaism started in Egypt and the Jews moved through sinai to ancient Palestine (call it Judea or Narnia if you want also). Lets go ahead and look for who lived on the land before the Jews moved in shall we? Or does history only start and end where you want it to?