Two VERY Different Fujifilm Lenses

[@Bahman.t.a]

I don't know why I am watching this. I don't own any Fujifilm cameras.

[@SomeUnremarkableGuy]

do you need to own fujifilm camera to watch video like these?

[@erichramone7812]

Same. Most of these shows (and I love this show) but they feed GAS syndrome....

[@ShamGod3000]

I watch because I like these dudes

[@surajravindrababu8986]

Soon you will…

[@aloysiusyudistianto3611]

Yeah, I just watch to see the both of them 😅

[@lackoliver55]

We definitely need more 500m talking head segments.

[@atselykovskiy]

That was 500mm

[@crhuynh8]

@@atselykovskiy Is this actually 500mm or 1000mm equiv to full frame 500mm?

[@lackoliver55]

@@atselykovskiy But Jordan should be 500m away to make the most cinematic experience. I want talking head shots that look like the opening scene of The French Connection.

[@drchtct]

@@crhuynh8 This is 765mm FF equivalent

[@atselykovskiy]

@@crhuynh8 considering its image circle it is at least 395mm FF equiv

[@praisem4267]

Telephoto lenses dimensions are dictated by front lens diameter for the most part, much less so by the field covered. Having made a killer sharp, fairly lightweight lens for medium format, Fujifilm has made a wise choice offering it for x-mount. Now they “only”have to get the concerning autofocus issues solved…

[@jessejayphotography]

This is correct and should be pinned! The sigma 500mm 5.6, 95mm front element. Nikon 500mm, 95mm. Not a coincidence.

[@Gemuesesuppen]

What are the physics behind this, because I dont get when they just needed to cover a crop sensor instead of medium format, why wouldn't they build a lens less big. I thought when using the design of the GF500, the outer parts are ignored on crop sensor.

[@everydaysamething]

What's the benefit of having smaller/bigger front element though?

[@jessejayphotography]

@@everydaysamething Front element size is a factor in how big or small of aperture and T-stop (light transmission) you can have.

[@falxonPSN]

Moving BILF to BILPH was a masterstroke of genius. 👍

[@JoeWalnut-r8k]

😂😂😂

[@lackoliver55]

That taped floating filter 🤣

[@simontramper]

Will be interested if you do a side by side comparison of the mk1 and mk2 to see just how much better the mk2 is

[@jamesk7777]

please do this PP

[@ItsMidasProductions]

This video may have just convinced me to get a telephoto lens for video lol. Definitely not as long as a 500, but a 300 sounds very doable! The compression is so uniquely beautiful

[@bingbong4848]

Lumix Leica 200mm. You're welcome.

[@ItsMidasProductions]

@@bingbong4848 I don’t shoot mft 😬

[@bingbong4848]

@@ItsMidasProductions well I suppose that's a good reason not to get that lens... 🙂 If you're a Fuji shooter check out a used or new 50-140 f2.8. it's the one I'm saving for. I've not actually used it but I've yet to see a bad review. (It's 76-213 mm full frame equivalent focal range)

[@kaneclements7761]

I had the old 16-55 and sold it. I now use the Tamron 17-70 f2.8. A great lens and price and weight wise it undercuts the new 16-55.

[@LightSkinJedi1920]

Question about the 17-70, is chromatic aberration a big deal with it? I remember when it first came out that was a factor. But I wonder how noticeable it is in an everyday situation. It's very tempting even with the OIS.

[@el_fucko]

The Tamron lens weighs 120 grams more than the new 16-55 f/2.8 II. You're certainly right about the price, though...

[@AminLGTV]

I have the lens you can definitely see it if you look for it at bright sun at f2.8 but I could correct it mostly in post. For me that never has been a problem for my casual shooting

[@monkeystation]

I'm seeing the Tamron weighs 530 grams compared to 410 grams for the new 16-55mm?

[@voorachter2733]

Are you su re? The Tamron should be much heavier than the new 16-55.

[@hammarbytp]

Be interesting to see a comparison of the Fuji 16-55mm with the equivalent Sigma version or indeed the Tamron 17-70mm. When the 1st version of the lens came out, Fuji had a lens monopoly, so it would be interesting to know what know you are getting for the ~$500 apart from an aperture ring.

[@brownbear100]

Even the Mki version of the lens was generally better than the sigma. And buying used they were actually a similar price. While the weight and size savings is very welcome now, and on the face of it the price is fair - substantially cheaper than the old version launched for in real terms - you have to really want its advantages for that money.

[@heiner71]

Wow, extreme Toneh.

[@sargisshirinyan207]

Fantastic Tony balls

[@Tempus__Fugitive]

Beat me to it!

[@markec123]

Hahaha came to comment same thing 😂

[@Edwin--]

Thanks for the initial views! Looking forward to a full review of the 16-55mm f2.8 II and maybe some comparison to the Sigma 16-50mm f2.8. I really like this lens, and think it would pair well with my X-T5 for photo.

[@인생은한번-e5h]

sigma 1850

[@mortenthorpe]

Before Fuji gets their autofocus in cameras up to speed, I am not investing one more dollar in Fuji gear… and I have too much to even try and summarize… but the H2S is currently s big disappointment! Just yesterday did a head-head shootout of birds in flight with the H2S vs. The T3… the t3 cam out on top, for multiple reasons, but also for handling… and the H2S subject detection is so slow that it is best left off for birds…Fuji, get your rear in gear!

[@JoaquimGonsalves]

The fact that Fuji built down a GFX lens for APSC while simultaneously reducing the weight and price is something Canon and Niklon should have done years ago in their dslr mounts.

[@noahkeepsrecording]

Traded in my 16-55 I for the new model. Always loved it but it definitely can feel very heavy. Looking forward to the lighter weight!

[@joeyc923]

That ND filter suspension rig is 🤌

[@Jeo-What]

Would love to see production unit tested with the yet to be released new firmware that suppose to fix the AF pulsing issue.

[@calsimeth1588]

I'd love to know what changes they made for the X mount version of the 500mm. I wonder if they considered just offering a speed booster adapter with AF for the GFX version. Who cares about weight savings when what matters is light and reach?

[@joliver4083]

Waiting for more Toneh samples.

[@sargisshirinyan207]

The cinema can be ours

[@Mutedimagery]

Bro had me laughing so hard with the BILPH comment! Thank you

[@Alsayid]

"BILFS, that's birds I'd like to photograph, not birds I'd like to--" Say WHAT!? How does a Canadian get that spicy out of nowhere?? LOL

[@shang-hsienyang1284]

Video starts at 1:40 for Microsoft Windows users.

[@amermeleitor]

The ad was great. Don't miss it, seems like something that could happen for real 😅

[@shang-hsienyang1284]

​@@amermeleitorthere, I have changed my comment.

[@amermeleitor]

@@shang-hsienyang1284 😅 I don't even use Apple products. But I liked the ad. It's funny!

[@markuspruudel23]

Still no OIS on the 16-55 is very disappointing for that price range. Lots of people still shooting with older bodies that don't have built-in IBIS.

[@obscurelines]

Are there actually any wildlife pros using Fuji x? Seems a stretch.

[@isaiahfurrow7414]

Id loke to see you guys conpare the new "kit" lens to the conparable Sigma and Tamron 2.8 zooms.... please... And thanks for the content

[@xmeda]

It will be interesting to do comparison between Fuji 16-55/2.8II and Pentax DA*16-50/2.8 PLM

[@minusinfinity6974]

Great you have a 500mm lens Fuji, now how about you build a camera with Af up to the standards of Nikon, Canon and Sony. X-H2s with AF half as good as the Z6III would be even a good start.

[@tommasocazzaniga9199]

Obsessed by your clean my Mac ad 😅

[@janbonne]

Same!

[@HKFIJIHK]

I wonder how the new 16-36 will feel on the upcoming XM-5

[@deadly7898]

What 16-36?

[@HKFIJIHK]

I meant 16-55 lol

[@fiore723]

I have an old 16-55 that I'm using with the xt5, besides the weight and the new video technology, does it make sense to change it for the new version?

[@chrisw443]

Finally a portable camera setup!

[@mikefoster6018]

I've taken my best ever street pics with Mark 1 16-55mm, so trading-up to the Mark 2 would be such an easy decision .... BUT I'm trying to get stronger at composition/discipline via the nice 33mm prime. Like Luke Skywalker, do I take the quick and easy path (16-55mm) or the harder path (33mm)? The 33mm can stretch to f1.4 (not f2.8 like the other lens), but as a street photo hobbyist, I'm usually at about f4-5.6 anyway - even in grim British weather XD

[@marcusoutdoors4999]

I wonder if the lightweight 16-55 f2.8 leaves the door open for something more special, maybe a 16-55 f2.4 or f2 even. I had no problem with the weight of the old 16-55 f2.8 at 655g, but better subject separation would have been great and would have stopped me moving onto FF. Great introduction review, and as it is, the new lightweight version is more true to the overall Fuji X system concept and no doubt be a stellar travel lens

[@FilipDePreter]

What is a "noct"?

[@bbc6rgf57ytty5yxyw5gt]

It's a Nikon lens.

[@J.R.Y.]

It’s inside baseball. (Played out joke at this point) Refers to a heavy Nikon lens called the Noct.

[@liselottepulver2819]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fl7YoHeZgN2dd68 Here you are. And they really do use it as a unit of mass since then.

[@EscapeSquad]

I ll watch it just for the algorithm of my favorite camera chanel! 👌👏

[@benoittissier58]

A very good medium format lens may not have sufficient definition for a high MP APS-C sensor. Looking forward to an in-depth test.

[@seth094978]

This lens is so good on a 102MP 44x33 sensor, though, that I highly doubt it's going to fail at 40MP APS-C. That's only about 22% more resolution linearly.

[@Paul_Rohde]

The GFX 500mm review on the Chris Frost channel was the first time I could see separate inner lines on his lens chart test. There's plenty of resolving power there.

[@d_r_e_g]

It's still an expensive modern prime lens. There's no way it's not sharp enough even with the extender.

[@jenesuispasbavard]

What's the point of an APS-C lens that's almost the exact same size as that made for a sensor almost twice as large?

[@heiner71]

You should have snug in a photo of Jordan's favorite non-waterfowl bird.

[@JoaquimGonsalves]

I think this video is doing more of a service to the X-M5 :P So tempted to make that a second camera.

[@abhinaybuiss]

Nice job Fujifilm! Bring more, especially XF 23mm f2.0

[@J.R.Y.]

I like that these reviewers have stuck with their relatively low production value approach. I grow weary of overly slick presenters and flashy sets. These regular, down to earth guys remind me of what made KZbin so special in the early days.

[@StefanoA128]

The 16-55 mk2 top! I would have preferred a 400 f/4.5...

[@geinko]

On the episode of BILPH hunters

[@BrendanEvan]

I always learn so much watching these videos, like today I realized I’m not into BILPHing

[@JokingJay]

I find the 500mm a little disappointing on X-mount -- I thought the whole idea was that we were getting APS-C-specific glass, so it could be as small/compact as possible for the given focal length; instead it covers a sensor with roughly 4x as much surface area... Also, F5.6 is pretty fast on medium format, but on APS-C... I get the benefit of saving on R&D costs, but this paired with the ongoing AF issues on X-mount really starts to sting.

[@mipmipmipmipmip-v5x]

Didn't Olympus relabel a FF telezoom for m43?

[@CianMcsweeney]

A 500mm lens is still a 500mm lens, no matter the format it's going to be large and anything brighter than f5.6 would be huge

[@Johnny641]

When strapped to a APSC body you are close to 800mm , go and look at the size of a 800 FF lens , they are massive and also very expensive.

[@minusinfinity6974]

Yuu clearly don't understand optics design. There is absolutely nothing you can do to make a 500mm lens physically smaller for APS-C or even m4/3. You could fake it like Olympus and market a 250mm f/5.6 lens as a 500mm f/5.6 and price it accordingly too, so APS-C you could build a 330mm f/5.6 and say it's got a 500mm FoV.

[@polygoncoco]

I don’t think you understand lens design. 500mm is still 500mm and f5.6 is still f5.6 regardless of sensor size. The field of view is tighter because of the sensor crop compared to FF - so you’d compare this with a 800mm f5.6 FF lens - which is significantly bigger. So we are getting smaller/compact.

[@rockabillyrebeljim]

what is a noct?

[@4honor]

Bilph?! Oh my~ 😂

[@edc5338]

When is the 16-55 being released?

[@DogZy9]

Late November

[@rivereee]

Birds I'd like to photograph lol

[@FidelisG]

Ooohh a bigger great white sharp Fujinon lens

[@aldiosmio]

TIL you can make a video with 500m lens, not just the standard lens. And that compression ❤❤❤

[@costafilh0]

I don't get it. What's the point of APS-C if you're not going to get smaller, lighter, cheaper lenses with similar capabilities?

[@SergeyProskurnya]

Waiting for 16 - 55mm lenses detailed review.

[@timothykieper]

My first NEW car cost $2600.

[@renashbellrn]

Why is there no 15-55mm for sonyv

[@pentagramyt417]

I would like ANYONE to make now x1.4 TC handle and x2.0 TC handle (especially this second one..) to see how it performs at 1000 mm f11, for my field 1200 mm is bare minimum and I would like to stop cropping my resolution half, from 900 mm.

[@omererdim]

Really really lumix gh7 perfect color. Perfect camera

[@spozitron]

BILPHs *golf clap*

[@Abc1987]

Smart idea to start downsizing the lenses! If they could find a way to do something similar with their 1.4 lineup they’d be on the right track

[@ekofotoz8260]

Loving the 500mm

[@lionheart4424]

Sadly AF-C in Fuji is lacking in this gen. But these two lenses look amazing. They are both well priced and particularly the 500mm looks just gorgeous.

[@eduvivan2562]

Man they FINALLY updated the 16-55

[@jackrussel9991]

2.02 "FUJIFILM high end professional general purpose zoom for X mont camera" ... Well better to fix the AF first. Otherwise No meaning in getting getting this glass.

[@trowawayacc]

Dang that 500mm can shoot the fleas of a dog.

[@tim.poirier]

I need to get my hands on that 500mm 😍

[@fauntfrancisco]

feels plasticky? Im starting to want the V1

[@johnvillalovos]

Anyone else distracted by the shrubbery stuck to Chris' jacket? 😊

[@niccollsvideo]

I was!

[@dccoletrain]

I wish they added stabilization at that price to the zoom lens… is it 2x better than Sigma.

[@lionheart4424]

It is sad that it does not has OIS, but compared to the Sigma it should be at least equally sharp, with better rendering, faster AF and it is weather sealed. I'm sure that we will get videos comparing the two from youtubers in due time.

[@qiangli4022]

that "why why" at 1.5 speed is hilarious

[@Jamm1eone]

That 500 would’ve been perfect for COVID videos

[@kart182]

Love the ad

[@antzpantz]

BILPHS!!!

[@atselykovskiy]

2:52 Leading '0' corresponds to 2020 year of manufacture

[@jayzn1931]

?

[@lumberjack3008]

Bokeh was the weakest point of the old 16-55mm. A sterile look.

[@dragSD666]

why make new lenses when they should fix first the autofocus from all their cameras

[@A.Edilbi]

Why they don't allow you to test the lens ? It's not like firmware that they can change something. No it's final .that's the lens

[@Paul_Rohde]

With modern mirrorless, there's plenty that can change. Algorithms for focus by various aspects, same with aperture control, distortion, vignetting, OIS, ...

[@A.Edilbi]

@Paul_Rohde he literally said " we can't test sharpness and bokeh " those are image quality. Not lens performance. Can't be changed with firmware

[@Paul_Rohde]

@@A.Edilbi I don't know your background, but for example, distortion correction info comes from the lens and is fed to the body. Algorithms related to the correction can affect sharpness. It's not like the old days where light goes through the glass straight to be set in film. Now the image processed to make up for glass shortcuts. There's been issues like with OIS in the post that have also affected image quality, etc Chris' statement was just a short hand way, without listing every nuance that could change in the final production lens.

[@A.Edilbi]

@Paul_Rohde distortion correct and vignette correction are dismissed when they review the lens .they shoot in raw and show us the distortion and vignette so the firmware is irrelevant. I never once discussed something with a photographer and get annoyed by their answers

[@Paul_Rohde]

@@A.Edilbi cool

[@yangsiyuan4]

Don’t care about the lenses. I’m here to admire the acting at the start😂

[@qawazauri3422]

Jordan's Xm5 setup just disappears behind the 500mm lens.😮

[@OdiumTV]

The dreadful Fuji autofocus is really showing at some points, they really need to fix their software...

[@cinegenies4651]

Autofocus is still not performing great on new Fuji cameras, even when the subject is standing still.

[@krishnakumarr9619]

18mil f2 mkii when?

[@nevvanclarke9225]

Changes to the filter size is annoying..I know I know step up rings 😮

[@elzonn]

That focus hunting in the long shot is really awful

[@warrenc2306]

All the gems in this video!! Next level guys!!!

[@godsinbox]

if you say rugged 5 times you summon Mick Taylor (from wolf creek)

[@Unboxious]

That 500mm is a huge disappointment. I was hoping that since it's made for APS-C cameras it would be smaller, lighter and cheaper. What's the point of APS-C if the lens is going to cost $3k and weigh a ton anyways?

[@J.R.Y.]

Can you think of any smaller 500mm 5.6 lenses for any format? I’m trying to think of some, yet I’m drawing a blank.

[@adycoke2]

the point is ...APSC,because you cant use GFX version on apsc,dont you?

[@polygoncoco]

What? 500mm is always going to be 500mm. If you’re comparing field of view then compare this with an 800mm FF lens - which will be significantly bigger. The smaller/lighter etc advantage is because of the crop in the field of view compared to full frame. Meaning you need less glass to get equivalent field of view.

[@MireyaGriese]

Thanks for the breakdown! Just a quick off-topic question: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). What's the best way to send them to Binance?

[@IanButterworthyyc]

At around 3:30 it’s not sharp.

[@Powerland56]

🤡

[@PHOTOBUFFEDDYed]

They are pixafiles ‘ lol 😅

[@andrewh2341]

Love you guys but kind of wish we could skip the “first look pre production” videos. They don’t really bring much to the table because you can’t talk about the meat and potatoes of the topic “do you want to buy this lens?” without actual testing and evaluation.

[@JoshNerius]

To each their own. I like these early videos for a variety of reasons. Helps me stay up to date on what’s coming and that’s useful in and of itself.

[@breadandcircuses5644]

With this new 16-55 aps-c lense I think a comparison of all currently available general purpose aps-c lenses would be great fun. At the end of the day, we photographers chose our camera based on the lenses available and what's more important than the quality of the lense you user the most?

[@noenken]

Same lens for a 44x33mm image circle on a 24x16mm sensor ... without being able to use it on both. What's the point of using APS-C if not even the lenses are smaller anymore? That's just silly.

[@noenken]

@@djstuc In my understanding when you design a lens for a much smaller image circle at the same (not equivalent) focal length and f-stop, you need less light to go through. A design specific to that smaller image circle could be quite a bit thinner at the very least. I'm happy to learn but I don't think that's a myth. (?)

[@Paul_Rohde]

Remember, although they're the same mm, their AOV are different. If the two lenses were made for the same AOV, they would be rather different sizes, and completely different lenses in construction. This lens does have elements tailored for APS-C, so they aren't fully the same and interchangeable.

[@noenken]

@@Paul_Rohde Nope, it is exactly the same lens. There are diagrams for both on their respective product pages and the entire optical design is identical. The only difference is the mount and layout of switches and the lens foot. Even the majority of the housing is the same. fujifilm-x.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/XF500mmF5_6_lensDanmen-1.jpg vs. fujifilm-x.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/gf500_img11-1.jpg

[@noenken]

@@Paul_Rohde @Paul_Rohde Nope, it is exactly the same lens. There are diagrams for both on their respective product pages and the entire optical design is identical. The only difference is the mount and layout of switches and the lens foot. Even the majority of the housing is the same.

[@Paul_Rohde]

@@noenken I thought they said on the x summit that some of the elements were modified, but I could be wrong.

[@thepadonthepondbythescum]

BILTPs!

[@ZappaBlues]

Bo-KAY or BO-kah ... I say BO-kah just to irritate people 🤪

[@J.R.Y.]

Bo-Kěh 👍

[@bigrobotnewstoday1436]

Chris is hacking into Valve looking for Half-Life 3 beta to play. And if they trace the IP just blame Jordan, problem solved. LOL

[@Maxfli82]

Made in the Philippines now? I don’t want it.

[@brugj03]

That it is even possible with the terrible fuji autofocus. They are more than 10 years behind, i wouldn`t even think about using it.

[@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel]

Hey Fujifilm, fix your autofocus.

[@Username_CC_]

16-55 with no OIS is just sad but love the size

[@NotAnotherChannel_Channel]

So you search the Dark Web for warning sign images? C’mon Chris! Up your game!

[@mfdoom808]

First