Two Ways to Build a Rainscreen - Make Your Siding Last Longer

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50 Acres & a Cabin

50 Acres & a Cabin

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@texasjustice1861
@texasjustice1861 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoy watching your videos. I currently am between deciding if I want to spend the money to fix my home or not. Seeing the rain screen is a little encouraging because I want to stay with hard wood on my home.
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
I am kinda the same way, I know its a lot of maintenance and work but I just love the look of real wood. Good luck fixing up your place.
@texasjustice1861
@texasjustice1861 5 жыл бұрын
50 Acres & a Cabin thank you. It’s a enormous task , just like yours.
@chrisbenoit1035
@chrisbenoit1035 5 жыл бұрын
@@texasjustice1861,please shoot us an email and we would be happy to point you in the right direction and give you options on where to source our products in your area. Thanks! cbenoit@obdyke.com
@markgoode4109
@markgoode4109 5 жыл бұрын
always a pleasure to see how the cabin is progressing. Small steps this week, but they all add up and take you a step closer to the finish line. Congrats on the 16K subscribers; an impressive number. Good info in the sticker max product; I'd not heard of it before. Thanks for sharing and best wishes.
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark I appreciate the kind words.
@debbiee6535
@debbiee6535 5 жыл бұрын
I watched a lot of Thise Old House and what I am seeing is right off of it. God job sir.
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Debbie
@lenellamaxwell6934
@lenellamaxwell6934 5 жыл бұрын
It is exciting to watch things come together. Even your little solutions. I love the way you do things your way instead of buying everything premade. Great job!
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lenella, I appreciate you watching the channel, glad you enjoy it.
@garya3056
@garya3056 5 жыл бұрын
Rain screens are a nice touch... 👍
@JerrysThisandThat
@JerrysThisandThat 5 жыл бұрын
Cabin is coming along nice Mike, glad you got a bit of product from the manufacture... thats cool of them.
@JerrysThisandThat
@JerrysThisandThat 5 жыл бұрын
Just thought of this, a muffler on that air vent from the heater might work.
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Yea I think that could do the trick, I'll have to try to figure out a good design for one.
@chucktrow8577
@chucktrow8577 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely looks like summer heat has arrived at the cabin. That rain screen slicker max looks awesome. It rolls on pretty quick which will save you some time. Look forward to see the siding going on this summer.
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Oh boy was it hot. Thanks for watching Charles.
@DiddlyPenguin
@DiddlyPenguin 5 жыл бұрын
U are making good progress now. The shingles will look very good. I think the cabin will blend in very nicely with its surroundings. Good work
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Carol!
@BarnStangz
@BarnStangz 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Mike! And that's so awesome that a company sent you out a product that you believe in! That is some great advertising that you gave them! More companies should rally behind your build and let you know about their products! Can't wait to see the cedar shingles, they're going to look nice! And don't worry, I'll be down this fall to help!
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
thanks man, can't wait to get you out there, we'll have a blast.
@thizizliz
@thizizliz 5 жыл бұрын
That product looks brilliant. Really functional. It will be fascinating to see how you like it over time. Gonna be a sweet cabin.
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
I'm very excited about it.
@davidkilbourne8308
@davidkilbourne8308 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you. Your making progress for the vent, and have it in soon. Can't wait till the siding comes in and the cedar shakes are started. Love the ways things are coming along. Its going to make a great siding. It takes awhile but its coming together, Love the videos and very informanal………...………. .
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks David!
@joharmon2148
@joharmon2148 5 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see some outside siding. You really are good at what you do.
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jo!
@oksteve5709
@oksteve5709 5 жыл бұрын
I had heard of rain screen but never have used or seen it. Living in the deserts most of my life I wouldn't have too much use I don't think. Nice job on the exhaust fan.
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Yea that makes sense, In dry climates I think it doesn't matter as much.
@jessiepapabear4272
@jessiepapabear4272 5 жыл бұрын
Thats cool wrap....rain screen. Thanks it was what i been thinking about for my own.
@mhazel4777
@mhazel4777 5 жыл бұрын
thank you missed your new buddy so good to see you at the cabin coming along thanks again for the video
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael!
@calebfuller4713
@calebfuller4713 5 жыл бұрын
OK, regarding that noisy heating vent, I'm doing thought experiments based on my knowledge of acoustics and musical instruments... 1st - Pipe diameter controls the pitch, but also volume, in that a narrow pipe will make a higher pitch noise, but need less air, while a wide pipe will make a lower pitch, but also need more airflow to achieve the same noise. So... step 1 - use a wider pipe and vent. If the joint at the furnace is fixed, can you use a funnel to channel the air into a wider pipe? The bigger pipe and vent, the more you'll see both sound volume and pitch reduce. 2nd - The wooden box is acting as a resonant amplifier! Just like acoustic guitar and pianos, having this vibrating pipe solidly mounted to a wooden box is transferring the vibrations to the wood which then resonate and amplify the sound-waves. So, to reduce this, you want to mount any hardware with some kind of vibration absorbing gasket, like foam, rubber, etc. The less direct contact, the better. The more the noise generating hardware can shake WITHOUT directly contacting wood or metal, the better. 3rd - Remember - noise equals air movement equals vibration. The more you can dampen down any potential vibration transfer, the quieter it will be. Good luck!
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
That makes a lot of sense. Someone had mentioned the wooden box amplifying sound, I was meaning to change that, the pipe size is a great suggestion, I'll have to give that a try as well.
@dper1112
@dper1112 5 жыл бұрын
- It has been mentioned elsewhere that roof snow and ice guard can be used as a relatively inexpensive but fairly decent sound absorbing material. Or rubber sheets, the thicker the better, available at any home center. Drywall also can be effective, although it's not as good, but you might have some lying around. And as mentioned, a larger diameter pipe and vent should help. Well, one general rule of thumb in sound insulation is that noise goes wherever air goes, and everything is in the fine details. - One totally different idea that might be effective is to put some sound insulation on the inside of that wooden box and make the cover of the box a large vent. In other words, you'd have 1' tube that flows into the area under your bed that has a large vent into the room. - Computer fans are available in many sizes and speeds. The larger sizes can run at lower RPM to provide equivalent ventilation, which makes them quieter and gives them a longer life. It looks like you're using a 120mm fan, and if the noise on that bothers you, try moving up to a quieter 150mm fan, or (at the cost of air flow) install a throttle and lower the RPMs. That being said, noise in the kitchen is far less of a nuisance than in the bedroom.
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
@@dper1112 One thing I failed to mention is that it's not really the running noise of the fan it's more the change in noise when it kicks on or off. (It's on a thermostat). And yea I don't worry about the kitchen noise its only the bedroom that wakes me up at night. I think We can solve this now with all these suggestions. Thanks for commenting.
@dper1112
@dper1112 5 жыл бұрын
@@50Acres Good luck! I've been doing all sorts of noise reduction stuff in my home, and it's interesting and useful to see you working on a somewhat similar issue.
@DarrenC_1024
@DarrenC_1024 5 жыл бұрын
@@50Acres While I have no experience in house building or air vent building, I'm a science nerd and would contribute a bit here... I'd suggest switching to a larger fan spinning at lower RPM, this will get rid of the high pitch jet engine kinda noise. If you are concerned about changing the size and speed of fan would affect the performance of the furnace, just calculate how much volume of air was shifted by the current fan, and find a fan size and speed that matches the numbers. Also, put the furnace in another room and direct the hot air to your room via an air duct would help reducing the noise further.
@estellaknox4488
@estellaknox4488 5 жыл бұрын
Good morning 50 Acres I enjoy watching you build it going to be a great cabin
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Estella!
@marshasmith6320
@marshasmith6320 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Looking forward to seeing the siding going up.
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marsha
@edwardjanowiak
@edwardjanowiak 5 жыл бұрын
Your cord game has improved immensely, and I was hoping you were going to say something about it as you were wrapping up that hose at the end well done sir well done👍🏻👍🏻
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Ha ha thanks Ed!
@chrisbenoit1035
@chrisbenoit1035 5 жыл бұрын
Great Video, can't wait to see the siding go up! Thanks!
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris, I really appreciate Benjamin Obdyke donating the Slicker Max and I'm very impressed with it.
@PlanetMojo
@PlanetMojo 5 жыл бұрын
We built our home with a rain screen in 2011 -- before most people ever heard of a rain screen. Ours is over 2" of EPS on the outside of the home which makes it super insulated. I never seen the Slicker Max product, but I don't think it would work on the external foam system -- but I will definitely keep it in mind for other projects! We are currently working on an addition to our rain screened home which is kind of an interesting challenge -- attaching through 2" of foam and all! The cabin is coming along nicely!
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
I would have liked to use XPS on the outside of the cabin, but the cost is getting up there and ended up skimping. Good luck on the addition.
@chrisbenoit1035
@chrisbenoit1035 5 жыл бұрын
You can certainly use a rolled rainscreen over external foam, shoot me an email @ cbenoit@obdyke.com, will be happy to shoot you a detailed instruction manual, and I can answer any questions. thanks!
@PlanetMojo
@PlanetMojo 5 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbenoit1035 Hi Chris. Just sent you an email. We are actually in the process of building an addition to a rain screen home that also has an exterior foam rain screen over at the Planet Mojo channel. I am interested to hear how this would work! I just sent you an email...
@chrisbenoit1035
@chrisbenoit1035 5 жыл бұрын
@@PlanetMojo I didn't receive your message, please resend to cbenoit@obdyke.com, look forward to speaking with you, thanks!
@PlanetMojo
@PlanetMojo 5 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbenoit1035 -- I just sent a second email. Maybe check your spam folder? I sent the email from my Engineering Automation company email address.
@ralphtaylor3796
@ralphtaylor3796 5 жыл бұрын
always enjoy watching ,will be looking for your next postings. thanks again...
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Frank!
@TerraFirmaX
@TerraFirmaX 5 жыл бұрын
When I first saw the title I thought it was going to be a Matt Risenger video. Great progress my friend
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Ha, nope that guy, he takes it to a whole new level!
@TerraFirmaX
@TerraFirmaX 5 жыл бұрын
50 Acres & a Cabin every time I watch him my build cost goes up. Lol
@curiosidadesextrano
@curiosidadesextrano 5 жыл бұрын
You are doing such a great job on your cabin. I like how you do the step by step instructions. I think the noisy furnace my actually in time act as way like the white noise and might help you guys sleep. If not I hope you find the solution thanks for sharing and congratulations on getting those free rolls.
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Curiosdades, The noise of the fan itself isn't so bad, but when it kicks on or off automatically that wakes me up. I'll probably get used to it, and once we have our wood stove in, it won't even get used that much.
@OffgridwithJayandJen
@OffgridwithJayandJen 5 жыл бұрын
Many years of working with noise reduction methods of similar situations to yours, lead me to the perfect solution..........install the wood stove. YOU ARE WELCOME. Lol, best wishes.
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
haha you are so right. I will get one in before winter!
@OILME651
@OILME651 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. if done right which it looks like you are will last a life time. Great job so far. Keep it up. Progress! I love watching
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marsha!
@sciwolf359
@sciwolf359 5 жыл бұрын
Fast becoming one of my favorite channels! Are you worried at all about having a fire right under your bed in the winter? Not gonna lie it kind of freaks me out a bit LoL
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rooster, Yea I am a little bit but it's designed to be in locations like that and lots of people use them in their westfailia vans without fires...
@sciwolf359
@sciwolf359 5 жыл бұрын
50 Acres & a Cabin oh, gotcha.
@LWYOffGridHomestead
@LWYOffGridHomestead 5 жыл бұрын
Cabin is looking good...looking forward to seeing how the fan works
@bwcok7947
@bwcok7947 5 жыл бұрын
Would you be willing to build your heater it's own box under the cabin further away from where it is now and run to more vents to the rest of the cabin? You should be able to close and control each register and that would still dampen the noise factor your are having. The furthest register away from the heater should be your bedroom. All of it should be insulated and boxed in metal to keep the critters out since it will be under and outside of your cabin. Keep up your awesome work and great videos. Thank you and stay safe!
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks BWC I'll keep that one in my back pocket. It would be a good deal of work to move it but If I need to I will.
@shawnharalson3764
@shawnharalson3764 5 жыл бұрын
Great job! I think it’s quieter😊
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Shawn
@gmag3253
@gmag3253 5 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the next post!
@postaadem
@postaadem 5 жыл бұрын
great work
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@marcofonseca4511
@marcofonseca4511 5 жыл бұрын
Another great and education video.. I am very excited to see how your cabin will look outside..👏👏🍻
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marco, I can't wait to get the siding up.
@gilligallou
@gilligallou 5 жыл бұрын
rain screen is cool, must check out that roll , thanks for sharing
@theredrose777
@theredrose777 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, you knew exactly what you came to do.
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@DebbiesHomeplace
@DebbiesHomeplace 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! It's going to look awesome no doubt. Take care and stay cool!
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sojourner
@detroitredwing919
@detroitredwing919 5 жыл бұрын
Nice work 😃
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@meandnature6452
@meandnature6452 5 жыл бұрын
keep it up! remember to have airflow behind the siding so it can dry out
@suenorton873
@suenorton873 5 жыл бұрын
The siding looks like it's going to really make the cabin.
@davevanden1
@davevanden1 5 жыл бұрын
going to to be starting my cabin soon so taking some great advice from you, love your workmanship you are fussy like me :)
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and good luck on your cabin, have fun with it!
@davevanden1
@davevanden1 5 жыл бұрын
@@50Acres I will i keep you updated on it
@franceshenry2239
@franceshenry2239 5 жыл бұрын
Love your video's.thanks.
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Frances!
@larryjacobs5713
@larryjacobs5713 5 жыл бұрын
Looks great man! Wish I had half your knowledge!
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks Larry, as for the knowledge, I just learn one thing at a time...
@daviddove4851
@daviddove4851 5 жыл бұрын
Coming long good ever video you put out you getting close to being done One thing out a time it might seem like you not done anything by the time you go home But It all counts to the end goal and you are doing a excellent job when you finished It going to be be beautiful place to stay with the wife and specially boys weekend way BBQ and beer or bourbon around camp fire keep the video coming I really enjoying You journey god bless stay safe
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you David, glad you are enjoying it.
@lorettapresswood1135
@lorettapresswood1135 5 жыл бұрын
As far as the heater..that is like the bunk heater in my semi..my bunk heater is relatively quiet.. and is under my bed also..you might just try running it at a lower speed.. sorry..but this is the first time I've seen one of your videos..but I will follow you now
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Loretta, I've got some good ideas for the fan noise...
@barryseverns5139
@barryseverns5139 5 жыл бұрын
you are continuing to move forward, trip by trip
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Barry
@ruby055
@ruby055 5 жыл бұрын
Reduce the air speed with a series of baffles, in the tube this is a common problem in propellsion science too, no noise at the intake lots of noice at the exhaust. Baffles are a set of fins that channel the air in different angles slightly over a short distance, many ducted air conditioning and heating systems utilize them in arena's or theatres, same issue
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike, I will try that soon.
@edwardwilcox6712
@edwardwilcox6712 5 жыл бұрын
going to look good here soon
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@douggibson9084
@douggibson9084 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. What screen did you use at the bottom of water drainage and control the bugs
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Doug, I don't know off hand, I think I got it at Home Depot or Lowes. I'll try to remember to check next time I'm there.
@OldMan_PJ
@OldMan_PJ 5 жыл бұрын
There are duct liners that go on the inside of a duct to filter noise coming through the duct itself. Very common in the home theater industry to keep noise from travelling to other rooms. Maybe someone out their got some for a DIY project and has a bit leftover that would fit the short run you need?
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Yea that's probably what I need, Its just amplifying itself and coming out the end of the duct.
@almath9987
@almath9987 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@metamud8686
@metamud8686 5 жыл бұрын
Just curious and to learn: why did the top fastener have to be a screw and not a nail on those boards you attached in the first few minutes?
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Good catch, my reasoning was that nails have great shear strength and screws have great uplift resistance so I figured I'd try to get the best of both worlds.
@metamud8686
@metamud8686 5 жыл бұрын
Great idea. Thanks for sharing! :-)
@badbadbob1
@badbadbob1 5 жыл бұрын
I need to see if my box stores can get me some Benjamin Obdyke Sticker max. Thanks I have not seen it before.
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
If not I know you can order it on the internet or go to their website to try to find a supplier.
@AnAlaskaHomestead
@AnAlaskaHomestead 5 жыл бұрын
That roll of rain screen is pretty cool and it’s hard to beat the price. Unfortunately the fan in your room sounds the same. Good progress. I’m looking forward to seeing the siding put up. What time frame are you look at for the siding? Take care buddy. Have a great week.
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Same to you bud! I got some more good ideas for the furnace fan in the comments so we'll have to revisit it down the line. Looking like about 3 weeks to a month before the siding actually goes up. I thought that it was being milled while I was in Ireland, turns out the guy couldn't get the species he quoted so he waited for me to get back to ask me what I wanted so everything got delayed.
@Gsxrnoob
@Gsxrnoob 5 жыл бұрын
Any preparations on the land for deer season if you plan on hunting out of this cabin?
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
I am hoping to do a weekend with my brother in law of clearing some areas and making some improvements in those regards but I am not sure we'll get to it this year.
@SourBogBubble
@SourBogBubble 5 жыл бұрын
😎🤙🦅. I'll recommend echo dampener. Things used to record in echoing rooms. That'll make it mute if you line the box. Though this is before I finished watching.
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
I'll look into that, thank you
@coreygillum12
@coreygillum12 3 жыл бұрын
If you were doing the whole cabin in board an baton would you rather do the traditional furring strips or slicker max? What are the pros an cons?
@50Acres
@50Acres 3 жыл бұрын
Since board and baton is a vertical application, I think I would definitely use the slicker max, its a lot of labor time putting up furring strips twice. Plus even the strips can get costly. You can buy the slicker max so that it is a house wrap and drainage plain all in one. Saves a ton of time.
@WihGlah
@WihGlah 5 жыл бұрын
You need a silencer for the furnace - make a box it feeds in then a maze for the hot air to pass through. Sound insulate the box. Make the exhaust a lot bigger than the inlet
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Good idea!
@mostlymoparih5682
@mostlymoparih5682 5 жыл бұрын
Good video.
@MaximC
@MaximC 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@exundfluriba
@exundfluriba 5 жыл бұрын
Great video and nice work 👍 👁️👁️
@JF-fx2qv
@JF-fx2qv 5 жыл бұрын
The fan in the wall is for? Is it a PC fan? The air hose "cord" ... that kind remains a pain in the ass stiff kind.
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Yea the fan is a Noctua PC fan, my electrical system is 24 volts DC so I needed to get creative.
@johnhightower8737
@johnhightower8737 5 жыл бұрын
Great job. Press on with your awesome dream ! Looks fantastic so far. Shut the heater off and snuggle with your partner. Lol !
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks John, good idea!
@RobertJLessard
@RobertJLessard Жыл бұрын
Could that furnace be in the warmer part of your crawlspace and just have the duct part come through the floor? Or if it's just the movement of air in the duct oversizing the pipe woudl slow the air speed down but still deliver the de volume of air and should be quieter. I just started watching and now realize this is 3yrs ago maybe in future videos you already solved this. 😁
@50Acres
@50Acres Жыл бұрын
If I were to do it again I’d put the furniture under the floor in the crawl space and make a small system of ducts. I was able to quiet it by making a pipe out of carpet
@4philipp
@4philipp 5 жыл бұрын
What is your long term plan for heating?
@jfbutub
@jfbutub 5 жыл бұрын
Is the fan realy needed? As warm Air travel Up on his own i woukd give a go to a passive system ... Without any fan but using natural flow of Air!
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
The fan just speeds things up a bit.
@jfbutub
@jfbutub 5 жыл бұрын
@@50Acres so I would try to use the heater without the fan😉
@gabelumby8206
@gabelumby8206 5 жыл бұрын
Would the Slicker Max Rainscreen be a good product to use behind fiber cement siding?
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
yea I would think so
@davidgill8922
@davidgill8922 5 жыл бұрын
have the air come out more than one ducted opening
@americam4783
@americam4783 5 жыл бұрын
Make a muffler for your heater! That would be cool to watch.
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thats what I am thinking too!
@OffgridwithJayandJen
@OffgridwithJayandJen 5 жыл бұрын
30 dollar car muffler should work good.
@metamud8686
@metamud8686 5 жыл бұрын
Is there any way you can redesign that weird pipe thing venting underneath your bed? It's obviously just a design flaw and you can spend forever trying to "fix" the symptom of it being too loud, but will keep failing and bug you. Much better to just chalk that design up to experience and redesign where you have your heater and where it will exit (why would you have your furnace venting CO2 *and* possibly CO into your bedroom in the first place???)
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Yea, Its going to take some re-working thats for sure. The furnace has two more hoses that you didn't see in the video one that draws combustion air from the outside and another that exhausts that spent combustion air to the exterior so it's a fully vented furnace.
@mikesparks3398
@mikesparks3398 5 жыл бұрын
can you mount that under the home?
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
I think I could. They also make a version of that furnace that can be mounted underneath a van so I don't see why I couldn't encase it in a box underneath.
@mikesparks3398
@mikesparks3398 5 жыл бұрын
@@50Acres guess maybe it depends on price and necessity!
@canuckyank82
@canuckyank82 5 жыл бұрын
Glad I sold my houses before I had to retrofit them for rain screens. Wish that product was around over the last 40 years.
@anitablades6033
@anitablades6033 5 жыл бұрын
Just Subbed looking forward to catching up.
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@ezm69
@ezm69 5 жыл бұрын
Yea, insulation on the outside of a hard pipe isn’t going to do much. :) You’re fighting two separate things, first, hard surfaces are reflective not absorbing and so they’ll do nothing to absorb and dampen the sound. Second, sound is a wave and any wave will travel VERY well in a straight line and even fairly well through a turn with a hard surface. So what you have will transfer the noise extremely efficiently. You have to avoid those two problems and you may be able to do both at the same time. Now you could go with flexible duct with insulated interior and run it left and right a few times before coming out and that would probably help a lot. The issue there is most of that insulation being pink, I don’t think I’d want that under my bed. 🤠 I’d be afraid of it heating up and a, making my bed VERY hot, and/or b, I’d be afraid of fire given all of the flammable materials. A baffle box would be a better solution I think though it will also take up more space. Essentially you feed the hard pipe into one side, say the left, and it comes out the opposite side on the right. You can line it with rock wool insulation that is great at absorbing sound and you put a baffle in the middle with it’s opening to the right side (outlet side) back up on the end where the inlet is. And you’ll wang the rock wool on the baffle as well. So the sound will come in and have a straight shot at the rock wool which will absorb the sound, the air will have to push back up the baffle to get to the opening, over, and then back down again. All the while as it makes it’s way through the rock wool is absorbing the sound waves but letting the air itself pass through. That will solve most of your sound transfer issues. What you’re left with then is the sound of the air itself and the high velocity. If you want to kill it even further, your outlet should be larger than your inlet which will drop the velocity (and the noise further). Those are some of the techniques you would use in a recording studio to silence the heating and cooling systems. I’ve seen people use really large versions in studios to handle getting fresh air in and out and a 100 watt Marshall cranked (REALLY loud) isn’t audible outside, but the air can still move. A smaller version should do the trick for you but you still need as much size as you can get. I’d also insulate any open space between the blower and the outlet pipe. The noise from the blower is absorbed by the mattress but could transfer into the outlet pipe is it has an open shot. Again, sound is a wave so if it has a straight shot it’s going to transfer and resonate the outlet pipe. Your insulation you used this time would help with that (though that’s not most of your problem). www.avsforum.com/forum/19-dedicated-theater-design-construction/1477067-soundproof-ventilation-dead-vent-baffled-box-acoustic-box.html This has some good examples of what I’m talking about. Might not need to go as far as they do but you’ll get the idea. 😁 Looking good by the way!
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
That makes a lot of sense, seems like most of what I have done is just let the waves bounce around and then come out the outlet. I think I have a good design in my head that I will try out once I get the time to tinker with it.
@mattivirta
@mattivirta 5 жыл бұрын
lot better if heater have outside bedroom. and only air ventile come in bedroom at wall.
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Yea, that would have been a better strategy...
@dper1112
@dper1112 5 жыл бұрын
Or direct vent propane heaters, some of which don't require electricity. But then there's a hole in the wall, and probably those are far more expensive. In any case, it's cool to see all of this action unfold. :-)
@watztheuse
@watztheuse 3 жыл бұрын
God I wish my shoulders moved like that. Good on you!!!
@50Acres
@50Acres 3 жыл бұрын
Ha thanks!
@laynemacek2350
@laynemacek2350 5 жыл бұрын
The reason things take time, is it allows you to decompress. That way you do not rush to finish and make mistakes, that would take way longer to fix. Too bad your heater is not in another room or under your floor and insulated. That way you could add more pipe so that you could access the heat without the sound. FYI: beer is your friend. It's ok to embrace that fact..
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
A beer would have been nice that day!
@coldspring624
@coldspring624 5 жыл бұрын
Eliminate your original plastic duct and replace it with lined flex duct....same as your insulation but it has a liner inside. If you can hook up the same flex duct to your return also.Use plastic zip ties to fasten to your fittings. That will help with air flow noise. You may want to line the cavity your unit is in with duct board to help with the noise the unit itself makes. Odds are if you live around any large new home allotments going in the heating guys will have enough scrap to suit your needs.........nice cabin you are building by the way
@coldspring624
@coldspring624 5 жыл бұрын
I have been eyeing that Slicker max myself ....seems like a great way to go with cedar shingles
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you cold spring, I hope to give a follow up regarding the furnace noise in the not to distant future. I got some great Idea from a lot of viewers.
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed with it, if you shop around you can find a good deal on it, and when you factor the labor savings and cost of strapping it really makes a lot of sense.
@klatzig
@klatzig 5 жыл бұрын
The insulated tubing needs to be INSTEAD of the plastictubing that the sound bounces around in 😄 The sound hits the insulation and doesnt bounce back 👍
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Ha ha I guess I missed that detail! Makes sense...
@kathleenkramer6930
@kathleenkramer6930 4 жыл бұрын
Where is this place. What state
@50Acres
@50Acres 4 жыл бұрын
Hi it is in the Ohio River Valley Region.
@dmmaddex
@dmmaddex 5 жыл бұрын
I wish I had your skills.
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
I learned them all one at a time!
@gregpavone8485
@gregpavone8485 5 жыл бұрын
Where is the puppy?
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
I left her home this trip until I can put some stuff away and make the place more puppy proof.
@Barkeroni
@Barkeroni 5 жыл бұрын
I'd ditch that propane furnace and get a wood burning stove. I'm new to your vids so maybe I missed that plan for the future though...
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Yea the plan is for it to be back up heat, I hope to install my wood stove this fall and only use the furnace once in a while.
@Barkeroni
@Barkeroni 5 жыл бұрын
@@50Acres awesome, well done on the build. Slow and patient always pays off and it shows on the details so far
@waylonhartwell
@waylonhartwell 5 жыл бұрын
I think that fly screens going to fall off behind that board you didn't put enough staples in it:-)
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
haha uh oh...better put more...
@JF-fx2qv
@JF-fx2qv 5 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing on the "SLICKER" product. I'm doing the same work. BUT! there is no way in hell I'm paying $250.00 for a 4' x 5' roll. The noise you are trying to reduce is not from the duct. The noise is due to the fan. A quality fan would be quiet. You are a "PRODUCT" builder. All products are a way to make money. Cost of producing a said product is cut in some area in the name of profit. Once upon a time we built with what was from nature. Some structure have been standing for 500 years. None with the products today's market offers. To each their own.
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
I think the rolls are 200 square feet for $148, www.buyobdyke.com/slicker-max/ which seems expensive but strapping for 200 square feet costs a decent chunk of change too. Check out my videos where I made the door, window casing and trim, I make all that from rough sawn Ash that was killed by the Ash Borrer, no products involved there.
@chrisbenoit1035
@chrisbenoit1035 5 жыл бұрын
Our products are more affordable than what you have quoted, you may even find them cheaper near you. Let me know if you would be interested in a conversation, thanks!
@JF-fx2qv
@JF-fx2qv 5 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbenoit1035 Should read 44"x 61.5' - my mistake. Matters not, I won't pay $250.56 for a roll. That would add up fast. There are other alternative methods that have been in practice of decades that does the same thing. That is resist moisture and allow the surface to breath. Becoming hooked on products isn't the way to go. Its like why drive a car when a computer can do it for you. Eventually, with that way of thinking people will become helpless and useless. Kind of hard to earn an income and buy anything when you become obsolete. People are aware of the "rethink" indoctrination of a generation. If you want to sell it, you have to make it more affordable than the many other methods that work as well and cost far less. Homeowners no longer are willing to absorb the cost. I just told 3M good buy for their PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE.
@waylonhartwell
@waylonhartwell 5 жыл бұрын
And it looks like the hose is starting to adapt the memory I've been rolled up correctly.
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Yea it seems to be getting easier and easier...
@julieivers7375
@julieivers7375 5 жыл бұрын
No BB today 🙁
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
I wanted to do some puppy proofing before I brought her back.
@ourselfreliantlife
@ourselfreliantlife 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry the dampener didn't work. Great way to leverage the channel though.😆👍
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Free Swag!!!
@AndrewBryantPianoTuner
@AndrewBryantPianoTuner 5 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone put a gas heater under a bed?
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Seems strange, but it is designed for such locations. It's also designed to handle the vibration of being in an RV.
@davekrieger7172
@davekrieger7172 5 жыл бұрын
"Flash the window properly first", he says as he flashes the bottom window sill voiding his warranty.
@ohske
@ohske 5 жыл бұрын
🏠👍👍👍🙂👌
@gooberjr427
@gooberjr427 5 жыл бұрын
You put the rain screen on backwards. Watch this old house you well see how they use it
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
I watched the Obdyke instructions and that is the way they did it too!
@jamesveach6918
@jamesveach6918 5 жыл бұрын
That furnace is not going to be totally quiet besides I like the sound of it it just sounds like they air moving but it's not my place so where you marked it as a fail I would mark it as a win
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, it's not too bad if it's running, it gets me when it kicks on, since it's on a thermostat.
@allentruitt8632
@allentruitt8632 5 жыл бұрын
Im an over the road driver and have a diesel heater in my truck. I was stuck in 17 below zero and turned that thing on an it practically ran me out of the truck. It is quiet in the cab because it exhausts outside. Heres a link. Cant remember the brand. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fF7KfZ6fhsSsatk
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
I have heard very good things about those also...
@allentruitt8632
@allentruitt8632 5 жыл бұрын
@@50Acres The heater itself is about the same size as yours, but requires a 12 volt battery. My bet is, solar could handle it, but i could be wrong. Anyway, great video.
@gooberjr427
@gooberjr427 5 жыл бұрын
My bad the stuff this old house uses has a built in house wrap yours does not sorry.
@robsdeviceunknown
@robsdeviceunknown 5 жыл бұрын
More gimmicks. "what is a rain screen? - a product for suckers." What have houses for hundreds of years done with rain? Oh I know. Build the house right!
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
There's a part of me that agrees with that sentiment. I've replaced a lot of window sills, sistered in a lot of studs, and replaced my share of mud sills, on the one hand those parts lasted over 100 years, on the other hand I did need to replace them. I'm fine with the old methods of building but I like to try to do better when I can and there is always room for improvement.
@chrisbenoit1035
@chrisbenoit1035 5 жыл бұрын
It's not a gimmick, and you aren't wrong either. Old houses are drafty and didn't have to worry because they were built loosely with lots of ventilation, but some people want more energy efficiency because they hate being cold in winter and hot in summer. So with people building houses tighter and tighter there are issues that arise, doesn't mean one is right and other is wrong, just different. All the rainscreen does it offer a drainage plane and ventilation for siding and sheathing that you otherwise wouldn't have without compromising energy.
@Mrmobeenrana
@Mrmobeenrana 5 жыл бұрын
Take a few days off and finish the cabin
@50Acres
@50Acres 5 жыл бұрын
I would like to do that!
@rjonzun5828
@rjonzun5828 5 жыл бұрын
@@50Acres Personally, I've enjoyed the prolonged pace of the cabin build. It allows us to savour it. :)
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