We Converted Our F-14 Into a Super Tomcat

Nearly a year later, we upgraded the Freewing F-14 80mm twin 1680kv outrunners to 1920kv inrunners. The exact motors we used are here: www.motionrc.c... - you'll also need a pair of 100 amp ESCs. The MiG-29 ESCs will do the trick: www.motionrc.c...
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0:00 Introduction
0:30 Flying Stock Motors Compared to Inrunner Upgrades
1:35 Build Quality
2:37 Flight Quality
3:25 Bigger Flies Better & Stall Talk
4:48 Wing Sweep Characteristics
5:33 Lights & Top Speed
6:24 Wings Extended High Alpha
7:15 Aerial Cobra Maneuvers & Heavy Batteries
7:40 Final Thoughts

[@jordancoleman2402]

I set mine up with 21,000kv motors and YGE opto 135 ESC's and it absolutely insane!

[@jared6072]

I 100% agree. Been loving mine with 12b inrunners for the last three years

[@aerospacematt9147]

Technically, the Freewing F-14 is a D model “Super Tomcat” already. (At least in terms of the airframe design) But, I see what you did there, and I must say, it looks even better with the upgrades (if that’s possible!)

[@TwoBrosRC]

The stock motors hardly qualify as a Super. 😉

[@aerospacematt9147]

@@TwoBrosRC Ha! Oh, so you know how Freewing sells 8s power systems? Do you think it would be a worthwhile investment to put 8s in the F-14?

[@TwoBrosRC]

@@aerospacematt9147 We generally don't believe in adding wing loading for additional thrust. The idea is to reduce weight, not add to it. The model is already extremely heavy. Adding an 8s system to it is not going to help any stall characteristics.

[@Finalmile_FPV]

Those sunset shots, 🔥🔥🔥🔥. She does have a presence my goodness.

[@SupaAidole]

Damn it's afterburner in your hands

[@jlphhs2003]

Your flying style is A+. What a time to be alive

[@JMaxRC]

1:20 Hell Yeah!

[@MrAxel1666]

I use the 80mm 12 blade with the 3658kv 1920 kv , and 120 amp hobbywing esc. Before I try the 9b 1920 and the 12b 1857kv. Installed In F14, Mig 29, Avanti, Griphen, Mig21, F5. And i love much more than the original combo. Ok more amp draw but now the vertical is more than ok 😉

[@notoo7]

Thats some of the most awesome flying I have seen to date😲😲😲👍👍👍

[@velcro62]

Thanks for putting all the links in the description!

[@KB_RC]

Awesome man!!! So cool! I need this jet sometime!

[@Swiss_RC]

thanks for sharing your video. i have make these upgrades. my F14 flys great. 10/10

[@TwoBrosRC]

Great to hear!

[@juliandevr1]

Love the shots from the drone😍 maybe we can get some pov footage from inside one of your jets

[@TwoBrosRC]

We'd need a FPV hookup to do that. Not quite there just yet.

[@rays8935]

Loved mine....but I flew it too slow with wings retracted and stalled badly into the ground. Us my favourite edf so far

[@williewideback]

Always wanted this F-14, But upgrades and improvement are much needed for the asking price

[@TwoBrosRC]

It's worth it to be able to fly a Tomcat.

[@friendlyreptile9931]

@@TwoBrosRC If he just want's to fly F-14, he can also buy the e-flite model or the flite test thing but the Freewing is another leveln, even if not top notch b.c. that title goes to the Skymaster F-14

[@thomasseeley8124]

This this thing is super sick!

[@tughillrc6327]

Very informative video, decent footage with multiple view added through was very nice. The FW F-14 Tomcat is a expert level jet for the seasoned pilot. The intermediate level pilot would have there hands full and probably end up crashing it in a stall. The upgrades are wonderful and as you stated much needed. Alpha/ Motion RC should probably offer a V2 of this with the upgrades installed. Including the landing gear beef up.Would it be worth the price increase?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Yes, absolutely.

[@thomaspuma434]

Great Video

[@txkflier]

Very nicely produced video..

[@ausboy9251]

Great video guys

[@jimjones9239]

Amazing

[@thomasusowski2155]

Super cool video! 😎

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Excellent video brother Jon! So so well done. You have come a long way. Very well narrated and your changes are very fairly explained. Great edit, and a great airplane. You have really brought out more from the F-14 than they ever intended. To me...this is the best video you've done that I've seen.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Thanks so much Adam. It was very painful recording this one because COVID caused a persistent cough that makes it difficult to speak, much less record audio. I had to do a bunch of voice compression and adjustments to sound even semi-normal. Very much looking forward to being able to talk properly again.

[@troy551000]

Guys motion rc have a new f16, only a 64mm , handy bird to have when you've aload of 4s 2200's.would like to see what its capable of with you guys on the sticks

[@TwoBrosRC]

That's not really a jet we're interested in, but we appreciate the thought!

[@themadscientistg7804]

Another informative banger!

[@djjay9974]

Great review and especially sunset flying shots! How do you think it compares to the new smaller Freewing F 14 tomcat? Have you tried that yet?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Check our long form vids. We covered the comparison!

[@DavidRJones82]

They need to release the V2 before I'll consider buying this.

[@TwoBrosRC]

You can make your own V2. It's worth it.

[@hadjnabil4811]

good job!

[@michelefantini9414]

Hi guys, great video, great tips! I'm thinking about making the engine upgrade. Did you use the stock fan with the inrunner motors or did you use the one that are in kit ( the one in the link you posted)? Plus, can you provide the link for afterburner light? Thx

[@TwoBrosRC]

We used new motors and ducts. All of the links to what we work with are in the description.

[@Donkey_Balls]

Get some👊

[@335iN54Enthusiast]

Whats a safe cruising speed for this plane 50% 75%???? Also for landing same question

[@TwoBrosRC]

You'll have to feel it out for yourself!

[@Mrbaileyrox122]

Do you think a spectrum power system would work well? Maybe two of the 80mm eflite F-16 power systems?

[@TwoBrosRC]

There wouldn't be a benefit since two tied together doesn't provide telemetry.

[@Mrbaileyrox122]

@@TwoBrosRC yeah and I guess I don’t need telemetry on it. I am looking at buying the ARF model and building it right from the start with power upgrades and the gear upgrades. Is this the main video for your build or do you have something on the forums kind of laying out your specs?

[@TwoBrosRC]

@Mrbaileyrox122 All the info should be in this vid or linked in the description.

[@Mrbaileyrox122]

@@TwoBrosRC thank you!

[@A.M.-RC]

Having started in the hobby with cars, that use inrunner motors, never could really understand why most planes use outrunners and what the benefits of each type are.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Inrunner vs outrunner is really just a choice of what's suitable for a specific application. Here's a good overview: www.radiocontrolinfo.com/brushless-inrunner-vs-outrunner-motor/

[@cwb7143]

can you guys do the banana hobby SU-47 and try to fix its common problems? i would love to get one myself but i dont want a shelf queen

[@TwoBrosRC]

Pretty sure they don't sell it anymore, and we don't buy from BH anymore.

[@cwb7143]

@TwoBrosRC oh, any particular reason? I see the just airframe go up often and I've seen the reviews. To me it seems like with the FWD swept wings people don't know how drastically the CG and center of lift shift on them. I know Banana hobby has some iffy reviews but like I said I've really contemplated on getting just the airframe and putting in spektrum servos and a much needed power upgrade, along with the proper location of CG with Center of lift (that the totally fun part) on it. I know the SU-47 isn't particularly are favored aircraft cause it looks wrong 😅 it's on top to me with the F-14, F-104, P-63, and P-38 lightning.

[@TwoBrosRC]

No idea why they discontinued it.

[@TheSkinon]

Would you be open to sharing the spektrum setup files? Can you even do that...

[@TwoBrosRC]

Already did. Check the setup vids in the description. The files are in their descriptions.

[@TheSkinon]

@@TwoBrosRC legend, your vids have upped my skills from 400mm volantex to 1.4 Mustang. Massive salute!

[@rolandtheheadlessthompsong4346]

Hey Jon.... I was wondering if you had considered the FMS 2000kv motor.....

[@TwoBrosRC]

Nope. The 80mm 1920kv from FW is light enough to get some load out of the wings and significantly improve performance.

[@rolandtheheadlessthompsong4346]

@@TwoBrosRC yeah …good call…from what you say the last thing you need is more weight in that bad boy

[@flyjets305]

This is a FW 90mm F22 question. When I land the plane it will coast straight for the first 10 feet and then veer sharply and then tip. When it taxi’s or takes off it tracks straight. Any suggestions?

[@flyjets305]

@@jbgamers1627 no, maybe you misunderstood what I’m describing. It’s not a stall because I’ve landed and as it rolls out after 10feet from perfect landing it veers sharply. I don’t think you can stall once it’s on the ground 🤣

[@TwoBrosRC]

No idea except maybe a loose set screw on your gear.

[@stevemartin9498]

May I ask what camera you use to get such clear footage?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Sony AX53

[@brian1740]

were do buy your smc battery's

[@TwoBrosRC]

smc-racing.com

[@friendlyreptile9931]

Technically, this was not a Cobra. If you fly straight and do a cobra, the angel has to be greater than 90 but most ppl don't know that for some reason :D

[@TwoBrosRC]

It doesn't have to be beyond 90 degrees AoA.

[@friendlyreptile9931]

@@TwoBrosRC I'm sorry but it has to be be. The definition is that the plane is in level flight and than pitches at least vertical (90°) while remaining at almost level flight, and then levels to a regular flight attitude. Everything else is not a cobra manouver and you can do your own research about that maneuver that is also known as "Pougachev maneuver". I also have to add that this fact dosn't make your video and flight skills less impressive.

[@TwoBrosRC]

@@friendlyreptile9931 There is no requirement to exceed 90 AoA for a cobra maneuver. All that's required is a vertical pitch up moment without gaining much altitude, with a return to level controlled flight. Anything else is embellishment.

[@friendlyreptile9931]

​@@TwoBrosRC I have to disagree on that.The reason why it's called cobra, is b.c. the snake "stands" almost straight up with it's head a bit to it's back to scare away predators. It was first flown by "Viktor Pugatschov" and seen by the world at the "Le Bourget" airshow in 1989. His definition is that you have to reach between 100°-130° and since he invented it, that is also the official definition that you can find with just a bit of research. The AoA limiter of the SU27, limit's the AoA to 29° and needs to be manualy turned off to archive that. I know that a lot of people call stuff like we see in this video "cobra" and say "the F22 can do it b.c. it has thrust vectoring" but it's both wrong. The reason why the SU27 is able to archive that (it has no thrust vectoring), is that the plane is build in a way that it flies very instable without the computer system b.c. it is designed tailheavy.

[@TwoBrosRC]

@@friendlyreptile9931 It was invented by Swedish Draken pilots and was demonstrated long before any Russian pilot performed the maneuver. You're welcome to disagree but every valid source we use for aerobatic performances does not require 120 AoA.

[@edwardcase]

price points on ALL foamies...way too stupid. Box of foam for 600 dollars?

[@TwoBrosRC]

We're sorry you don't like the current prices of foam aircraft, but we're not a customer service portal and have no interest in arguing about prices. If you find them unacceptable, simply don't buy them.