Destroyed & Reborn: 3 Years of the Freewing F-22, RC Jet Perfection

[@OrderoftheWarlocks]

Love the Ace Combat references on your planes

[@RC4ever]

Oh man... the feels! Shattered skies planted the passion seed for aviation in me... great vid!

[@TwoBrosRC]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@RC4ever]

@@TwoBrosRC 😘

[@anthonyC9199]

Love AceCombat! Was hoping you had this jet in your videos and the fact that the ace combat music is playing is so good.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Glad you enjoyed! Jon has been playing Ace Combat games since the late 1990s. We often feature liveries from the games, too.

[@jamesonclark5854]

Almost 6 years old, and it's still my favorite EDF!! Hard to beat the FW F22! Nice flying, Jon!!

[@mk6315]

ISAF livery goes so hard

[@TwoBrosRC]

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[@Pras33333]

F-22 is so nice, I hope there will be a video with AS3X+ settings soon. I'm excited to see what performance you get with it 🤩👍

[@TwoBrosRC]

Definitely something we miiiiiight be doing. 😉

[@qnoorani]

Couldn't agree more. The Freewing F-22 90mm is by far the best EDF I have ever flown. 8S or 6S it doesn't matter. Throw in some of the mods and it's next level.

[@nirlachman007]

Absolutely one of the best! Thanks for the Dubro tip Jon! 😊

[@itzjoeylo4501]

I think I’ll just live vicariously through you and your very Scale F-22 Raptor from Ace Combat franchise. One Ace flying another Ace…! Wow that is impressive, I wish I was good at creating mixes on my Futaba Equipment. Love the Content Jon…

[@airhammer6203]

Great video, Jon flying the MRC F-22 is always fun to watch (so is the full scale :). Big Thumbs up TBRC, AirHammer out!!

[@TwoBrosRC]

Glad you enjoyed it! We grew up playing Ace Combat 04 and it's one of those games that has a special place in the world for us.

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Holy crap dude, you have that thing freaking dialed in! With all the throw and power I can see why it is your favorite. It is as if this was made for what you like to do. I love the D series Hitec servos. Got some on the way for my H9 Christen Eagle. Great flying man!

[@TwoBrosRC]

Thanks so much Adam!

[@JN24185]

Two greats in the hobby! Thanks to both of you!

[@ltfadl1]

Outstanding video Jon, love that you got it back up in the air brother. I agree 10 out of 10, one of my most favorite jets in my hanger by as well. I have the 8s version and I run 4500 4s Lipos for weight savings but man does it scoot. Absolutely love it.

[@WeasleFireable]

Can't wait for a video about the F14-D with the Razgriz livery.

[@TwoBrosRC]

That'll be a long time from now, but possible!

[@JanGorales]

Really amazing jet model and great pilot's skills!

[@hamiltonshangar]

Very nice setup! I am building a pretty light and high quality one right now. More for scale than speed but it will be light enough to be aerobatic as well. Like you said the amount of things that you can do with this jet is unlimited! I went with D85 all the way around last time around besided the rudders, they are great servos. Especially with the soft start feature and prograrmming of the Hitec Programmer. Cheers -Ché

[@TwoBrosRC]

Happy to hear it, man! Looking forward to seeing it in action.

[@RaGeRC]

My Dream jet!! I already have it's little brother the 64mm version which I've customized with working rudders that plane is almost impervious to stalling so you can throw it around in the sky because it's so forgiving! But I need that 90! Can't wait to get my hands on one! Prob this spring I'll pull the trigger one one.

[@cliffdavis3247]

Just installed the thrust vectoring mod on my 8s version...all I could do was giggle at the things this jet can do.

[@leviathan351cleveland3]

Oh man, awesome!! I have a F-35 and I like it, I've been considering the F-22 and this vid has caused me to finish my decision. I will be flying the F-22 as soon as I shift around some priorities to free up some greens. I really like watching you fly because that's the way I fly as well. I have a SU-35 that I flew into some kind of tight maneuver so hard it snatched the Velcro battery straps loose and the canopy and battery detached from the plane at about 125 feet. Somehow the SU went into kinda a flat spin and slowed enough so when it hit the ground it didn't explode. You know what I mean, that kinda foam just goes to fragments when you wreck. Anyway thanks for the vids and info.

[@TwoBrosRC]

If only the F-35 70mm was anywhere near as capable as the F-22...

[@aerospacematt9147]

Alright Jon. You’ve convinced me. Big F-22 will be on the list!

[@Robinrms]

Very nice flying and review👍👍👍..Good that you give this wheel tips to people.. Freewing should put wheel/ suspension with better shock absorbance. It really helps. Have used this type of wheels + Avanti, Mig21 struts on many Edfs..

[@rcenvyyt]

Can't wait to fly one!

[@BashTillBroken]

You had way too much fun flying this jet and making this video 😂

[@TwoBrosRC]

We had to get AC04 running on Jon's PC to record that in-game segment yesterday, too. It was a fun trip down nostalgia lane.

[@BashTillBroken]

@@TwoBrosRC I could tell you were have some nostalgia love it keep up the good work

[@Gulwer-Su35]

Thx for the help i have now the f22 for almost 1 year and i do your recommendet Wheel upgrade. Now if the gear closes the current spikes about twice as mutch because there rly tight in. they are a bit wider than ther original once. is that ok for longterm? ore will i burn my retract Motor?

[@yamabushisama]

Did it again awsome !!!

[@ronclarke8546]

Amazing flying! Is it the jet or is or is it really your great flying skills? :-) Now that it's shipping with that great motor I want one again. I had it when it first came out but I was too inexperienced to really enjoy its true capabilities. I noticed that it was my easiest jet to land and that it was a floater - great lifting body. Thanks for showing us what it can really do!

[@TwoBrosRC]

Happy to help! Even decent flying skills can only do so much with a bad airframe. The jet is designed very well. Certainly one of the best out there.

[@fauziung3875]

Nice video 👍

[@alexdrex12]

Hi, I bought the wheels that you put on your F-22 but I cannot figure out how to remove the old rear wheels on the jet. Can you please help me here?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Hop into our Discord server. It's a bit of an involved process, but we can walk you through it. bit.ly/TBRCDiscord

[@alexdrex12]

Thank you! I just asked on the discord.

[@varadiadam92]

Great plane! I recently bought mine and have gyro installed. Is it better to have the gyro on the tailerons instead of elevator/aileron? Or have the gyro somehow control ailerons and also taileron?

[@TwoBrosRC]

It's best to have the gyro on all surfaces correcting for roll and pitch when possible!

[@varadiadam92]

@@TwoBrosRCwhat gyro can do this? I have hobbyeagle gyros and didn't see this kind of setup. Thanks for the very quick reply!

[@TwoBrosRC]

The AR10360T can do it. Follow our AS3X+ guide!

[@davidahlen2886]

Thanks for the awesome content on this channel! You’re in a league of your own on camerawork as well as commentary/expertise, editing and pilot skills. A short question on this particular jet: What would you consider the _least_ important of elevons, flaperons and crow mixing, for aerobatic versatility (and general fun)? I’m wondering whether it can be meaningfully set up for an intermediate pilot using only eight channels. As far as I understand (I’m a noob) you would need those eight channels to get complete freedom with each of the eight control surfaces and thus have all of the options above plus the rudder airbrakes. Sacrificing those airbrakes (which I assume are of little aerobatic use) and assigning both rudder servos to the same channel would free up one channel for the throttle. To free up the last one for the gears the same would have to be done for the elevators (sacrificing elevons), flaps (sacrificing flaperons) or ailerons (sacrificing crow). Again - as far as I understand. Thanks and cheers from Gripen-land!

[@TwoBrosRC]

Flaperons and crow mixing aren't essential. Differential stabilators are highly recommended though. Our current setup uses 17 channels, 9 of which are controlling all of the physical aircraft surfaces. It's great like that, but a simpler 8 channel setup can do most of it.

[@davidahlen2886]

Thanks a bunch! 👍

[@atabugrc9010]

Got another question. On my raptor, whenever i drop full flaps it pitches down every time. I have no down elevator mix when i drop take-off or landing flaps but still wants to go towards the ground. Should i put some up elevator mix for when i use flaps? Never had to or heard of having to do that before so i wanted to ask first. Thanks

[@TwoBrosRC]

You should feed in some elevator trim when the flaps are dropped to avoid this issue.

[@jakeclauson9863]

How effective do you think the center fin thing between exhaust would be if converted into a thrust vector deflector for the yaw axis?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Probably not very effective unfortunately.

[@dandork20]

Hello sir, how did you access the wing servos individually? Did you remove the ribbon cables? Did you cut them out or slide them out? Any problems fishing new wires through the model?

[@TwoBrosRC]

We ran servo leads directly through the fuselage and removed the ribbon cables to reduce weight. It takes a bit of work.

[@dandork20]

@@TwoBrosRC thank you so much for the reply. Did you have to cut the ribbon cables out of were you able to fish it out? I'm worried it might get stuck in the servo wire track that wraps around the central duct.

[@ALmyPaLFPV]

That was my Favorite ace combat game . The last level flying through Those tunnels to Destroy the missiles, so fun

[@dandork20]

Hello sir. Stock nose wheel is around 2.5", why such a small nose wheel for the replacement? Thank you!

[@TwoBrosRC]

It's more scale - the right size!

[@atabugrc9010]

Hi Jon, just have a question. You've stated that you use gorilla glue to fix certain things on a foamy. Well, the right main landing gear came off on a ruff landing and I was just curious if you use the regular gorilla glue or the no foam gorilla glue on your fixes?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Brown Gorilla Glue is what you'll want to fix that!

[@atabugrc9010]

@@TwoBrosRC thanks

[@atabugrc9010]

I watch every sat. You do great content and always answer questions. Much appreciated.

[@TwoBrosRC]

Happy to help - cheers!

[@luisdeleon1520]

I have the fw f22 90mm with the fms viper90 1950kv power setup. Does upgrading to the new fw 90mm 1960kv worth it or not? How do you compare the two power setups on the same platform? Coz ive seen youve used the fms setup before on your f22. Thanks

[@TwoBrosRC]

You can see the thrust difference in the vid. We directly compared climb rates between them. The 1960 is a superior choice!

[@wtfmimshag]

The G.O.A.T

[@TwoBrosRC]

🐐

[@TheRCAviator]

Yes, the Freewing 90mm F-22 Raptor is the best flying EDF I own. And I currently have about 18 EDF's..

[@kianwong4625]

Hi John -this jet look sooo stable. Is the freewing 64mm version stable and easy to handle like the 90mm f-22 freewing version? Thanks - look forward to your new vids..

[@TwoBrosRC]

No idea, we haven't flown it yet.

[@kianwong4625]

Look forward to all your new reviews. @@TwoBrosRC

[@NationChosenByGod]

Are you able to do a complete 180-degree turn or turn inside out with this RC F-22?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Yeah, easily.

[@NationChosenByGod]

@@TwoBrosRC Good to know.

[@EDF_FANatic]

Jon how did you get the wheels out from the mains ? Also did you have to do any shaving/sanding ti get that wheel to fit for the nose?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Join us on Discord and search for "F-22 wheel" in the #jets channel.

[@EDF_FANatic]

Love this jet but one frustrating thing for me is that the mains get loose on the shaft very easily. Freewing really shouldce made 2 sets of grub screws holding it straight and properly filed flatspots to hold the grub screws.

[@TwoBrosRC]

You're not wrong. Though it's hardly an issue on pavement, moreso on rough grass.

[@EDF_FANatic]

I've epoxies my mains in and they've gotten loose again. They got loose off our runway mat. Gonna have to cut in flat spots myself and reepoxy with jb weld probably. Just ordered the wheels you suggested too. Thanks for the vid

[@AllanG1914]

How does the FW's F22 compare to the Viper 90? My Viper is starting to get beat up (mostly from landing , ironically) and, if it goes down really hard, instead of an ARF kit, I may just pull the motor/fan ESC, and receiver to a FW F22 ARF kit.

[@TwoBrosRC]

The only things the Viper can do better are knife edge and high alpha, and the latter requires an 8 channel receiver. Stock vs stock, the F-22 is definitely a better jet overall, but not by much. The Viper 90 is E-flite's best jet in that class.

[@sampamnl.8964]

ขอบคุณมากครับ มันสุดยอดในการบินครับ

[@feelgooddany]

Freeeeeewing ❤

[@trevob123]

Taking yalls advice and bought the wheels. But uh...how do I get the main wheels off?? And did you use a different shaft for the front wheel?

[@TwoBrosRC]

It's covered in our Discord server. Check the #jets channel and search for F-22 wheel via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord The nose wheel needs to be drilled to fit the shaft. You can do this manually using a drill bit.

[@RedFuryIII]

Love this plane and your flying is amazing. Would the AR637T have enough channels for the setup you're running?

[@TwoBrosRC]

A 10360T comes closer.

[@RedFuryIII]

Thanks, for those of us not as experienced as others, do you have a profile setup we can download for this plane? My previous experience with the F-22 is the 64mm@@TwoBrosRC

[@TwoBrosRC]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIG1dotsjZaIb8k should cover it. Pretty sure there's an IX radio setup in the description too.

[@RedFuryIII]

Thank you@@TwoBrosRC

[@RichExclusive]

You should offer a complete plane like that for sale.

[@TwoBrosRC]

👀

[@RichExclusive]

@@TwoBrosRC I found it! Thanks haha. Oops.

[@CryptochroniclesYT]

Plz fly it with a fpv camra 360 you will enjoy it

[@TwoBrosRC]

Maybe!

[@stevemartin9498]

How highly do you recommend tailerons? I received the 10360t for Christmas. Advantages of which are just increased roll rate? High alpha control authority?

[@TwoBrosRC]

We highly recommend them. The full scale F-22 uses differential stabilators for roll control and it's incredibly powerful at model scale. Without them, you can stall out at higher angles of attack and be unable to recover as easily. It doesn't help with high alpha stability (nothing would except fins on the belly) but it does help recover from stalls and make it possible to perform post-stall acro like flat spins, cobra spins, etc.

[@stevemartin9498]

@@TwoBrosRC excellent thanks for the tips!

[@tonyyimbo]

I crashed my viper 70 in 30 seconds due to loss of fpv connection . Maybe this will be my new ride before a rafale

[@TwoBrosRC]

It's definitely a great trainer, but it can be so much more with some mods!

[@RedFuryIII]

What battery were you using and did it give you good flight time?

[@TwoBrosRC]

SMC 5300, 5800, 5900, and 6200 HV batteries.

[@ZawLwinOo-tl8qr]

How much pay for it?

[@TwoBrosRC]

$600

[@williamlane6374]

Hi, i want to get the F22 but am torn to which one to get, new 6s or 8s. Is the 8's a waist of money compared to the new 6s power system

[@TwoBrosRC]

The new 6s motor setup is super lightweight and powerful. Skip 8 and go with 6.

[@williamlane6374]

@TwoBrosRC the 8s would require me to buy 2 s packs, a good reason to go 6s. I have nothing that takes 2s

[@capitancairlblandford5785]

Does this EDF have reverse thrust?

[@TwoBrosRC]

If you put a reversing capable ESC into it, sure!

[@motoerhead1990]

So are you recommending the 6S or 8S Version?

[@TwoBrosRC]

6, absolutely. It runs the new Freewing 1960kv motor which is found in Eurofighter. It weighs almost as much as the FMS 1950 we used to run in our old F-22 yet produces 8s-like thrust with no wing loading penalty. It's absurdly good.

[@motoerhead1990]

@@TwoBrosRC thats awesome to hear! I would also love to get your take on their Mig 29 if you happen to have one! I really like your videos and how you improved over the last month. Keep up the good work! Cheers Toby

[@pratronald]

Where can we buy this?

[@TwoBrosRC]

Read the description, it's linked in there.

[@Estuardomendez13]

i crashed mine so im getting a new one already had the newer motor on my old one i swaped it out into the t45 once i crashed the f22 cause the t45 motor was terrible with only 2:30 min flight now i get 3:30 and more power

[@TwoBrosRC]

Sorry to hear that!

[@Estuardomendez13]

@@TwoBrosRC i mean i could get it flying again but the nose is so broken from multiple crashes and its already heavy from repairs i fly at 3000ft above sea level and adding more weight is just not a good idea anymore

[@robieosborne7369]

😎😎😎😎

[@insurancemann1]

Great video but not one of my favorites. Very under powered on 6s. Also difficult to see from a distance. I’ll take an Avanti v1 or v2 anytime over this.

[@TwoBrosRC]

It's definitely underpowered if you're not on the new Eurofighter motor.

[@insurancemann1]

@@TwoBrosRC yeah I had the original. I'm sure the new power makes a big difference 👍🏻

[@3v1Bunny]

why fly a plane that is meant to be fly by wire without the wires? 17 channels though that is something.

[@TwoBrosRC]

All the servos are connected by wires. ;) The setup uses the following channels: Throttle Left stabilator Right stabilator Left flaperon Right flaperon Left aileron Right aileron Left rudder Right rudder Gear Steering Gear light Gear door Afterburner AS3X/SAFE modes Pitch/yaw gain Roll gain

[@sachhai3985]

Please gimme one please😢😢😢😢😢

[@sachhai3985]

I am your subscriber

[@TwoBrosRC]

Appreciate the subscription, but we can't afford to send jets out to people.

[@sachhai3985]

@@TwoBrosRC can I know why not

[@ltfadl1]

@@sachhai3985 🤣

[@Planetery_Dragon]

first

[@TwoBrosRC]

🥇

[@Planetery_Dragon]

@@TwoBrosRC yay

[@wyattweaver3730]

Soooo happy you guys made it have Ace Combat 4 skin!! I loved that game as a kid, it’s a big reason why the F22 is my favorite plane!

[@ltk20]

Hi John, I’ve been digging through all your F-22 90mm videos in hopes of a link to a setup file for my transmitter. I know you’ve had a few variations on this plane but hoping for something to get me started. I’m running the ix14 with an 8 channel spektrum receiver. Thanks

[@TwoBrosRC]

Setup files are hosted on our Discord server via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord in the #spektrum-radio-setups channel.