Updates and Do-Overs.. -- Two Hot Takes Podcast Full Ep

[@fullysicksuperman]

I love how she says he doesn't like to argue but is willing to tell her she ruined his night by having emergency surgery. He actually makes my skin crawl

[@lyndsycarson8302]

Someone saying “I don’t like to argue” after they basically innitiate an argument is narcissist for “i want to attack you but i don’t want you to fight back, just take it and let me be right because i’m insecure and i know i’m wrong”

[@krisl6537]

Right? I'm the same age as her and I want to pull my hair out at the excuses she makes for her disgusting old man. He is an A-hole if they were living in the states and she said half of the crap he did, he'd probably have left her. But it seems like the OP is in a very mentally abusive relationship. I've been there before, it really changes the way you think. You can only be told you're wrong and a bad person so many times before you start to believe it. I feel so bad for this girl and her fiance should kick rocks.

[@Menagerie_K]

Oh, the irony.

[@skinsciencebymira]

Going back and listening to them read her post with the added context of her being pregnant… WOW. He said “if you’re going to stick around” to the woman carrying their baby

[@victoriakelley664]

@@skinsciencebymira holy shit I didn't think about that. What a MONSTER

[@rio__chakraborty]

well, Justin was wrong, i feel like at this point we will listen to absolutely anything you guys upload lol

[@cellycrystal]

Right?! Lol

[@annesekimberly2844]

Agreed! As long as it’s an hour…I’m watching 😭😂

[@ccroque1]

Right!! 😄 Loved this episode!

[@lifeofmindi]

TRULY

[@lrkur]

100%

[@riksstaden4927]

I think you should do a "comments episode" where you read and respond to our comments, including stories, opinions and questions. Love you guys!

[@TwoHotTakes]

I love this idea!! I'll probably do it over on @thtunsupervised so it doesn't get lost it the sauce but will have to set up asap

[@katiewren1507]

I don’t think it’s a bad thing to revisit some of your “hotter” takes. It takes a lot of maturity to say, “I hear you and this is why I agree/disagree” as opposed to just avoiding the controversy at all costs.

[@ESPHMacD]

I agree. I think its worth acknowledging too that we all come from different backgrounds and have different implicit bias when it comes to some these takes. Like Lauren's take with the selfish mom comment. Its nice to understand how they came to form their opinion, even when they disagree, especially if their opinion hasn't changed with new information.

[@lacromabianca942]

I agree also is amazing seeing content creator saying “I’m sorry, I said something wrong”.

[@mcsaism]

Also most people IRL will have an opinion one day and change it the next, but you can’t film a podcast over several days in order to have a well rounded opinion

[@lavenderbubblies]

We​@@ESPHMacD

[@madisonmckenny5899]

silly justin. this episode was genius. y’all are human and misspeak just like the rest of us. id love to see more of these bc as y’all said opinions are so ever evolving. luv y’all

[@SavvyGirl751]

The story about the gf treating her like a surrogate: we probably aren’t going to get an update. She left the state to hide. Reddit updates aren’t worth her children’s safety 💜

[@test-kf2zv]

Yeah. Plus, it's possible (I honestly hope) she's taken legal action, and may have been advised to not say anything until the case is over. Or even in the long term, because restraining orders don't actually prevent people from doing bad things, they just make it harder because of legalese.

[@Ilikefrogs..]

I sincerely hope she’s safe.

[@brec1589]

Let's not forgot one of Karen's goons found the post and sent it to her, causing Karen to go ape shit at op's job. Also, the story was a publicized by buzzfeed, daily mail, and several other news outlets. Joe and Karen would both have to be dead for us to get an update out of op.

[@NameName-yj7lp]

I know everyone is worried but knowing that if OP did update it would have to be a shit shit hole. Like can’t get any worse. They most likely are ok for now

[@Brenaylmao]

This was the one I’m so invested in!!!! I hope they’re okay 💕

[@beeboca]

I really love Lauren, she comes across as so genuine and kind, even when i don't agree with her opinions i can tell she's coming from a good place

[@erikasmiley9643]

Listening to why lauren made the “mom is selfish” take hit home for me. Listening to your parents talk poorly about the other is traumatizing as a young child. Even if they are the best parents. I very much relate and appreciate her explaining her point of view

[@OGimouse1]

It's very traumatizing as an adult when you find out it isn't true

[@vsailorsv]

The baby in the car ...I stand by my opinion. As somebody who suffers from post partum anxiety 17 months after my son's birth (still)...the thought of my partner ignoring my request to consider our son's safety would send me into a tailspin. The father had every right to have a freak out. He had every right to take his son out of that car and drive the f home and call her to tell her to pack her shit, too. All it takes is one time for things to go wrong. There are no second chances with a child's life.

[@TeamRonify]

I feel like they didn’t consider that A. Fathers can also have strong emotions and act on impulse and B. IT IS HIS CHILD. He has every right to demand HIS child be cared for a certain way and not endangered. I hope the mom gets the help she needs but damn he’s just protecting his baby

[@vsailorsv]

@@TeamRonify THIS! Just because he is a man doesn't mean his feelings are more "in check" during the post partum period. He is adjusting, too. Postpartum depression is no excuse to knowingly put your baby in danger. She admitted she knew she was doing something wrong, was given a heads up that it was not ok, and then chose to do it again. I'm sorry I know it's hard to ask for help but when you know you are risking your baby's safety it becomes your responsibility as a parent to seek help.

[@breemarie4804]

@@TeamRonify I agree completely!! I was so mad during the original episode when tefi said “who does this man think he is?!” Ummm the child’s father!!! His wants and opinions on raising the baby matter just as much as the mom!! Hate when people think just because dads don’t birth children that their feelings matter less. Mom sucks, dad was in the right!

[@nitsku8263]

I agree 100%. I don’t usually agree on testing your partner or pulling big stunts. However, this one was NECESSARY because the mom did not seem to care about the child. As you said, there are no room for oopsies in childcare. You get it right in one go or it’s gone (in this case, quite literally).

[@lilydawson1556]

@@breemarie4804 exactly. Once the baby has exited the uterus it is a 50/50 split between the parents opinions. Yes before birth the mother has more say but the second that child takes a breath the father is entitled to his opinions

[@engelstraene3]

I was going to comment that I truly hope that the woman with the 40 y/o fiancé sees the red flags and leaves him because this is an abusive marriage in the making. I was kind of devastated to hear she's pregnant. I feel so bad for her, and I'm truly sad that she doesn't see how badly her fiancé treats her. "I believe a girl shouldn't come between a man and his mum"?? Well I believe a mum shouldn't come between a man and his fiancée. The fact that this man is 40 and can't stand up to his mum because "he doesn't like conflicts" makes me believe that either he's a spineless asshole or he agrees with his mum. Both are red flags and she should get out while she can.

[@engelstraene3]

@Erika Canfield I couldn't agree more.

[@estefaniac233]

I feel the same way. Poor baby, poor woman. This is just an all around f*cked up situation and like they said, it's seems like she has no one to turn to so it doesn't seem like she'll get out of this environment

[@Mssalexis]

Since the first episode I have felt the same. I think about her a lot. Hoping my thoughts send energy into the world to help her find the right way.

[@rpstgag]

Glad I'm not the only one preoccupied with worry for her - I cannot stop imagining the misery she is going to endure if she stays in the relationship 😞

[@heezypeasy8611]

I totally agree. My ex husband was, and still is, so far up his mother's ass that it's disgusting. He rarely stood up to her and would take her side over mine. She is a huge reason as to why we divorced. She wanted me gone and I feel it's bc she doesn't want him to be with anyone. She wants him for herself and that's so gross. I hate that this girl is pregnant with that horrible man's child and wish she would have left him and seen her own worth before she ended up bound to him for at least the next 18 yrs. It's sad.

[@softpixels8145]

I feel so awful for the poor girl who was being poisoned by her boyfriend, I think she might be hallucinating the slugs, she mentioned she has OCD and bipolar. She's probably got PTSD now and the combination of those things is probably wreaking havoc on her psyche and her grip on reality.

[@_.mauvaiseherbe]

I'm literally trying not to cry it brokes my heart to listen how much he destroyed her

[@Menagerie_K]

I feel so sorry for her. I can't imagine losing my appetite and someone saying I'm fat anyways.... sometimes people suffer loss of appetite and weight loss due to other diseases and based on that, her physicians suck.

[@seriouslyobsessed947]

@@Menagerie_K not even mentioning that her physicians KNOW why this is an issue and still refuse to help

[@kellyrist8876]

Honestly by far the worst story I’ve heard on this podcast, she must be so traumatised

[@oz8724]

Shouldn’t she try to press charges against him? Like attempted murder or sue him for all the horrible health issues this has caused, he could do this to other people. Though I understand it could just be way too much to deal with at once cause it’s so traumatizing.

[@rynn5089]

Here's where the story with the stripper really grinds my gears. Even if the fiance WAS ambushed with the stripper by her friend, she still had the ability to say "no, my partner and I have drawn a very clear line and I choose not to cross it" and then payed the stripper for coming (as a courtesy) and asked them to leave. But instead she chose to not rock the boat and instead violate the boundaries her boyfriend had set with her beforehand. She by no means was forced to sit through a lap dance against her will, and any friend who would give her crap over that can kick rocks. So, again, whether she knew beforehand or not the fiance still chose to please her friends at the cost of her partner's trust.

[@rowanmaxwell2713]

Idk, peer pressure is real thing. The fiancé might be a non-confrontational person. I’m not saying she couldn’t have said something but would her “friends” have listened to her?

[@ghostlylex5083]

@@rowanmaxwell2713 then at that point she tbh should’ve left. Idk I just wouldn’t risk hurting my partner over a dumb silly party

[@thaissalee6]

@@rowanmaxwell2713 no one tied her up and made her be there , she’s at fault for staying and not texting her fiancé right away cuz if it was the other way around it would be a major red flag for yall

[@linaghoname6888]

@@rowanmaxwell2713 Peer pressure is a thing, but you're still not exempt from your actions because you were "peer pressured" into doing them. Imagine someone at court being convicted of murder and their excuse is "I was peer pressured into it". No. You still chose to do it regardless and that's on you, regardless of why you did it.

[@William1w1]

Okay, but imagine that your partner is really against you eating chocolate. Maybe you don't really like chocolate, so you're like, "Okay, that's weird, but I don't really like chocolate, so I'll agree that the two of us won't eat any chocolate." Then, unbeknownst to you, your friends order you a big chocolate bunny for your bachelor(ette) party. They're all really excited for you to share the bunny with them, and they all agree not to tell anyone about it. I mean, you could say no. Or you could take a bite of the bunny with your friends to make them happy. This is a good analogy to help you understand how people like me look at this. Sure. You made the "contract" not to eat chocolate with your partner. But come on. It's not a big deal. And if you're going to say, "But strippers are different!" No. Not in my mind. It's literally equally as ridiculous to me as the chocolate scenario. I'm not saying you're inherently wrong to feel as you feel. I'm just trying to offer some perspective on how others, like Morgan, might look at this situation.

[@ESPHMacD]

I’m putting this in a separate comment because its long, but our issue with you guys’ takes with the stripper boundaries story was that you all focused on calling him insecure and how he needed to ‘man up’ because its not like she could stand up to her friends and it wasn’t that big of a deal anyway. But it was a big deal to him, and that doesn’t make him a weak man or automatically insecure. He made sure to make an agreement with his partner beforehand so it must have meant something to him. I don’t know about you guys, but If my friends knew we agreed no strippers at our parties and still got one anyway despite that, they would no longer be my friends; and I would have had no problem leaving the situation, friends or not. Let’s not act like the only option in that situation is to go “oh well” and just let a stranger’s dick be danced near your face. And I’m going to assume/HOPE that if she didn’t want it or was visibly uncomfortable, that the dancer would have stopped, respected her boundaries, and not done something to her she didn’t personally want or say okay to. Its not about whether or not strippers in a club are great or deserving with respect (which they are, and they’re so incredible and fantastic, my body could never manage half of the stuff they do), the main issue was the disrespect between the partners.

[@bmachinena7268]

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯👏 Soooooo well said.

[@Lovinstories]

Thank you for pointing the actual issue out 🙏🙏🙏

[@bnnygurl]

Period! I think the no stripper rule is the same as saying no dancing with other people at clubs. Anyone would be devastated if they found out their partner was dirty dancing with someone else. Let’s be adults and admit that men don’t go to see how athletic a stripper is. They’re wanting to see half naked or naked women.

[@bmachinena7268]

@@bnnygurl And not even only the fact that it was a stripper. But from what I've seen most strippers don't dangle their dick on your face? Like that is crossing a huge boundary. How did that even happen? And the very valid point of somehow she was just like "okay, I guess I have to do this since he's here 🤷‍♀️" But you literally have the option to say no to anything, especiallyif you and your partner already discussed boundaries beforehand. I just don't get it lol. Seems sus to me tbh.

[@monicavictoria7851]

Thank you!! They personally don’t see stripping as cheating so they’re not empathizing with him

[@Emily-ck9ji]

Damn. I was really, REALLY hoping to get an update for the "olives in the box" story. LMAO. I remember when you first posted the video talking about it. Hopefully we'll get lucky one of these days.

[@lizzyshepler517]

Same! I've heard that story from many channels and none have heard an update. It's literally the ONLY Reddit post I need an update for because of how insane the whole situation was lol

[@stirlingarcher7972]

@@lizzyshepler517 I think every redditor is waiting for an update on that one.

[@dianalizzeth14]

On what video can I find the story??

[@MoneyHouse3421]

@@dianalizzeth14 unhinged with morgan, justin and lauren. it’s towards the end

[@kellyrist8876]

I think about the olive box often

[@strawberryfairy1102]

about the mom who kept leaving the baby in the car: yes, ultimatums are productive sometimes, but I would NEVER wanna give my partner another opportunity to endanger our child by saying 'you have one more chance to stop doing this and then I'm leaving.' nope. absolutely not. maybe the way he went about it wasn't great, but the confrontation absolutely needed to happen right then and there. she does not need to be alone with her child in the car until she gets help for her postpartum depression.

[@Sydthebutton]

Pick me girls put other girls down but they do it for male attention, so making fun of them is not quite the same deal in my opinion. I’d love to see that episode!

[@shuhao2817]

One is shitty action and one is consequences of your actions aka getting shamed for it.

[@WintermelonChan]

I'm half white, half black. When I was a kid, I didnt like visiting the grandparents because they were so grumpy. It was... so crazy when I was told (I kept pestering) that my grandfather and great grandfather WEREN'T just "grumpy old men" They never spoke to me, looked my way, or even spoke to my mother if we were in the room. We had to wait/play outside so my mom could have a conversation with her grandfather's. After that I saw all the racism around me. I use to be confused when people saw a little brown girl run up to a white women. I can't tell you how many times I've heard "THAT'S your mom?" "Your mom is WHITE?" I was confused because that was all I knew, of course that was my mom. Who else would it be? In high school, I remember having a crush and once things were about to get official and we were speaking about meeting up outside of school, he basically says "I could never bring you home cause my father doesn't like black people". The crazyist part about that was, after that we stopped talking, a year passes and we awkwardly still have a class together. His father ends up passing. Couple months after grieving- THIS DUDE TRYS TO HIT ME UP ROMANTICALLY!!!

[@WintermelonChan]

@@yourlefttoe5003 Why would I write in all caps if I accepted it lol

[@annikagerlach7133]

Time stamps: Updates: 1. 2:23 (AITA for eating at the same restaurant as my husbands family) 2. 13:34 (AITA for causing drama during an important football game + AITA for making Christmas all about me me me) 3. 33:35 (I found out my partner was putting slugs in my food, I don’t know how to forgive him) 4. 45:13 (met my biological dad for the first time ever) Do overs 1. 58:54 (father takes the Christmas money for his brother to pay child support) 2. 1:05:03 (AITA for making my wife think our son got kidnapped) 3. 1:18:41 (stripper at a bachelors party = cheating?) 4. 1:27:50 (my grooms party doesn’t want me to tell my s.o about a secret bachelor party) 5. 1:33:01 (Brother doesn’t want to donate his sperm to his sister) 6. 1:38:05 (man invites son he didn’t knew about to his child free wedding)

[@lizgreene7921]

You are truly a saint

[@plzno1854]

Queen energy thank you for your service ☺️🥰

[@userrr2253]

Justin was wrong I honestly loved this episode so much! - Really interesting to hear your different perspectives on these topics x

[@AllysonRR]

Agreed!! In your face, Justin😂👋

[@ps_layne]

about the stripper story i think she letting the stripper do that things to her is what makes him sad and feeling betrayed, she did this because she wanted to not just because of her friends

[@kimmie.s.8616]

yess, I was thinking the same thing! the issue isn't just that the stripper was there, she could've easily let her friends do stuff with the stripper and she not partake at all. But instead though she let the stripper dance on her knowing that boundary

[@beeluna9526]

Yeah like if she really didn’t want the stripper she would participate….

[@_ariannaconcepcion]

The story with the male stripper, I’m sorry but I disagree that she wasn’t somewhat at fault. I understand if she still wanted to hang out with her friends and the strippers were present but clearly her friend sent a picture of this stripper with his balls in her face… I’m sure if she would’ve told him not to do that he wouldn’t have done that.

[@ELOWORA]

this!!! as far as i know strippers don’t just shove their naked junk in your face without any consent

[@Eatyourgreensplease]

I also still think there would be such a different reaction if the roles were reversed. I think if the couple agreed not to have strippers, and the woman didn’t and the guy did, people would think he was such a bad person. Especially if there is a photo of him with tits in his face and his only excuse is that he didn’t want to let his friends down. I know I’d be so hurt and embarrassed in that situation so I definitely feel for OP!

[@badrabbitts8503]

As a seasoned binge watcher of this podcast, I have to say I love the episode. I think it's great to have the awareness to look at past opinions and how your experiences since then might have changed or solidified your views. We watch the podcast for you guys and your personalities! Also, the updates are gold, coming from someone who vividly remembers almost every story you've ever done. Great episode, thanks for putting yourselves out there!

[@brittanynelson4107]

I feel like the girl who got surprised with a stripper very well could have put a stop to it. She could have been like "no this is crossing a big boundary I don't want this stripper" her friends potentially ruined her fun by hiring him after told not to

[@elisecuellar9439]

exactly! i would've asked the stripper to leave

[@prismmakeupartistry8675]

At the very least I would have immediately excused myself to call my partner, get myself hyped up to tell the person to leave, and then gone back out. I understand feeling like you can't say no, but you have to figure out a way to respect your partner. If you aren't going to respect their boundaries, don't marry them.

[@ELOWORA]

the photo was with his dick right by to her face so she had to have at least not said no to a dance which is very much crossing that set boundary

[@sofiamallo4992]

I was thinking this exact same thing, if she let her friends know that wasn’t something she wanted and they still did it they shouldn’t even get offended or anything

[@Gna_d54]

Right? If my partner and I agreed on no strippers and someone 'surprised' me with one I wouldn't' just be like.. welp not my fault, lap dance time. I'd tell him to leave, make sure he gets paid for the night and continue with the night without disrespecting my relationship.

[@taylorpnw612]

The story about the wife leaving the baby in the car might seem like a tough one but I think the mother is lucky that's all that happened. If he gives an ultimatum for one more time, he very well could find out about that one more time via the police telling him his baby has died. That one more time could be the time that something catastrophic happens. You don't give someone one more chance to risk your baby's life. He waited for 6 minutes but who knows how long she was in the store before he spotted her car. She's incredibly lucky nothing worse happened, and she clearly needed a scary wake up call.

[@TLemieux11]

Exactly!

[@arixoxoxo]

Agreed. He couldve called the police. He could then divorce her and try to file for primary custody citing her being a danger to the child. If it wouldve been the other way around, people would say he was an unfit dad and the mom made the right choice to take the baby. Just because shes the mom, doesnt make her actions okay. There are a dozen dangers you expose your child to by leaving them alone- car temps, kidnapping, etc. If its due to her PPD, she needs to be supervised while with the child until shes evaluated and safe to be around the baby. This is a BABY who must be defended to the fullest capacity. They are completely defenseless. Its a parents job to protect and care for them. Her feelings do not take priority over a baby’s LIFE. idk tefi but i really disliked her stance on this. this woman’s psychiatric illness does not excuse her putting a childs life at risk. actions must be taken to protect the baby till shes better. period.

[@AtomicPuffin]

@@arixoxoxo this was the exact point I made on the yt vid with this story on. I said that lets face it, had the roles been reversed ppl would b 100% on the moms side in teaching dad a lesson n crying for her to divorce him

[@b_jean755]

100% agree and said the same thing! Doesnt matter if it's even 2 mins you don't ever leave a baby in the car by themselves! So many different things could happen in those short 2 mins! Like fuck the other day my 3month old was laying on his tummy mat playing while I was right there and he puked and it only take me maybe 1 min or less to get to him and the puke wss coming out his nose by then

[@arixoxoxo]

@@b_jean755 im glad hes okay!! it takes seconds. parenthood is really difficult and it really does take a village. sometimes parents need to acknowledge when theyre struggling to provide care, so others can step in for the good of the baby. my mom sent me over to my grandparents all the time, and i respect her for it. my grandparents had the mental energy to play with and spoil us while my mom could relax and recharge. its okay to admit its too much, especially as a new mom

[@AJ-qe5xj]

“You can’t just expect him to be a dad right away…” I agree, it may take time to learn to be a dad, but there such a big difference between the expectations for me and women. Many people expect a “mom” to immediately be a mom when she has the kid, and many look down on women who need to to develop a bond with their baby, the fathers however, people are more supportive of them taking more time to develop a relationship or bond. This isn’t everyone, but women are more expected to dedicate and sacrifice themselves for children rather than fathers. It’s kinda like the dichotomy of a couple splits, both have custody but dad chooses to get the kids every other weekend, he’s praised for being involved in the child’s life. But, if the father had the kids most of the time and the mother only saw them a weekend or two a month she would be looked at as neglectful and unfit and uncaring of her children. We need to start evolving the standards that we hold people to make the fairer and more equitable.

[@kalynndfregia3349]

Me and my ex husband are in this situation 😑 he literally only sees our son maybe 2 ones a week and is late to every visitation or has an excuse why he can’t go. But if I did the same I’m “keeping our son from him” most men in general are just taught somewhere that it’s okay to act this way🙃.

[@annesekimberly2844]

THIS!!!!!!

[@sydneym9173]

It may take time for EITHER parent to want to be a parent. But that’s what that Prep time is for. Because whether anyone is ready that child is coming and deserves nothing less than love and care.

[@danganryanne9499]

I agree with everything but family courts are sometimes shitty when they give out custody, for fathers you need a lot and a lot of evidence of the mother being abusive to the children for the dads to have custody, sometimes they don't get it, and for the mothers they are just given the children

[@OGimouse1]

​@@sydneym9173 But...who is the one who is considered to be in charge of prep time? You still hear *to this day* "Dads aren't dads until they see the kid out and about but mom's become moms once their hormones shift." The same *medical* professionals who still practice the "Husband Stitch". Women are the ones expected to nest. Women are the ones that have to change their *entire* lifestyles and it's "rude," "selfish," or "unfair" to ask their partners to do the same. Even *after* the birth asking men to give up their sports weekends or poker nights is too much infringement on their time, even when the woman also works full time. Moms have to give up their lives the moment they understand they might be pregnant. Men are allowed to do it when--and only *if*--they choose.

[@monkeymaroon]

Morgan she could have left if the stripper being there means she is cheating she should leave. If someone says kissing is cheating and your friends dare you to make out with someone you can leave you don’t have to kiss them. Eggplant touching face means she was actively participates in what they’ve agreed is cheating

[@happyrainbow05]

i’m so ready for the tefi episode update. i personally did not agree but i’m excited for where you came from! love the pod as always!

[@jelly7128]

honestly i cried at the meeting his birth parents story :( such a beautiful thing I'm so glad they reconnected

[@jay_deavyon]

The “one more time” ultimatum could be the last time that baby would be seen alive so no. But the wife needed a wake up call and the husband was furious so he did the first thing he thought of. However he went about it I can’t be mad at him even if there were better options his child was in danger and he reacted. I’m glad they’re getting help though and hopefully the mom gets healing from her postpartum soon.

[@mariadoe9684]

I was sadden to listen the second story. That goes to show how different the dynamics surrounding relationships work depending on the culture. I read some of her comments that led me to believe she's middle eastern which explains why she doesn't see how problematic her fiance is. Middle Eastern men are usually abusive in our perspective but for them (including women) the way they threat their partners is normal and encouraged my their culture. That's why she said "he is a good husband to me", in her eyes he's not as oppressive and abusive as the men she grew up with.

[@honeyb1685]

Yes I agree, I'm middle eastern myself and that phrase "he's a good husband to me" is such a familiar saying. Not all men are abusive here, the younger men are much kinder but the older they are the more traditional and "toxic" they become. And in most women's mind as long as they support them financially and don't hit them they are a "good husband". The bar is in hell💀

[@peachbat6156]

I looked at the post and she said that she was from Europe my best guess is she’s from somewhere in Eastern Europe

[@taryltaryl]

@@peachbat6156 That's what I thought too. I'm Ukrainian-Canadian and when she said they celebrate Christmas Eve that jumped out to me. It's a pretty widespread slavic thing

[@FT-kh8pr]

She could be german, we celebrate on christmas eve... My guess is, her way of thinking is not necessarily culture based but is just a personality thing. she seems to have low self esteem and seeks for validation of her actions. Thats why she picked a partner like that.

[@ludmilamaiolini6811]

So sad that she is subjecting herself to that treatment with so little insight. That family is made os assholes.

[@notthingofnote]

I feel like public humiliation would make him the asshole, he safely had his son and he was able to confront his wife in private. Especially since it was about post partum, just goes to show everyone has a different idea of whats right or wrong

[@batmansuenos]

Completely agree with your statement. I feel like public humiliation would have made it way worse for the whole family and who knows if they live in a small town you don’t want everyone knowing your family business.

[@miajanaee9161]

I disagree. He already tried to talk to his wife privately more than once and she did it anyway. I wish he would’ve humiliated her tbh

[@notthingofnote]

@@miajanaee9161 i get that, i just think it would have given her way more ammo to say he was an asshole. Anyone saying he should've been nicer about it is wrong tho, she needed a huge wake up call!

[@hvnterly8388]

I’m glad someone brought this up. The true, highest ground someone could invent would be the dad taking the baby into the store, greeting mom like nothing happened in public, and addressing it when they got home. But I don’t think that method would have had the same effect and I don’t really see anything wrong with their handling of the situation. Tensions ran high on both sides, they both apologized, and then they cut through to the real root of the problem and created a plan to work on her PPD as a team with him picking up more of the childcare. Everyone’s reactions to inventing new and better ways to handle the situation are kind of good in terms of stimulating conversation but some of the takes (like a public fight in the gas station lol) are so much worse.

[@kerry0010]

I also feel like the inference from Morgan that the wife can’t take in any information because of the panic and won’t be able to learn from it is wrong. In reality, she will associate the panic with the action and will remember it everytime she goes to do it

[@littlevivz1684]

1:11:10 just want to say that the dad was probably not thinking much and acting entirely rational either. He just found his baby in a situation that he preceved as dangerous, and was probably acting before thinking. Its easy for us to judge because we have time to think about the situation and we are not emotionally invested because its not our baby.

[@kinseystubbs8609]

I agree dad instincts kicked in and ultimately baby was kept safe

[@madeleineamos4621]

Agreed! I definitely wouldn’t be in my right mind if I saw my child in such a dangerous situation!

[@Theanine95]

As someone who lives abroad with a partner of different nationality／ethnicity／language than me the story about the 40 years old British makes my BLOOD BOIL. I just wish she leaves his ass for a man that treats her better. It's just so sad.

[@LeilaleilaZ]

That poor girl has zero self esteem. I can't believe she allows him and his family to treat her like that. Love yourself girl, gtfo of there!!

[@sha2596]

This whole thing is screaming visa or immigration issues for this girl. Otherwise I cannot understand why she would submit herself to this abuse.

[@alibeexoxox6522]

Same but unfortunately jugging by description she comes from similar cultural background as me( guessing east Europe/Slavic background) and in these cultures loads of women come from generation trauma and women being lower than man perception. It have taken me years to not see it how many people back home still do. Plus her being here without family ( again guessing based on details provided) she might feel like she have to fit in to be accepted as after Brexit attitude towards immigrants especially east European . Its tough situation but hopefully after baby is in picture she will get perspective on things and make right decision. I wish her to find someone better than what we would call in UK Wanker ;)

[@OGimouse1]

​@@sha2596 This was my thought. What she must have gone through back home with her family and environment that getting verbally abused with an open door to physical abuse makes the next 7+ years worth toughing out

[@danaboo88]

Lauren I commend you for admitting you were “wrong”. You’re not an asshole- you explained yourself perfectly. I’ve had very similar personal experiences from my childhood so I get why that triggered you. But I’m also a mom and we truly are for the most part all as selfless as possible and it hurts when someone tries to make us believe WERE wrong when all we’re doing is everything we can to make our babies happy. Don’t beat yourself up over it though girl. Honestly that dads a dipshit and really chose someone else’s happiness over his own family’s. Your a beautiful and eloquently spoken young lady and I love your takes! 😘

[@elliedavidow9364]

STOP I was literally just about to rewatch something while I was cleaning and then I see you just uploaded this 9 minutes AGO?!?!? Thank you universe😂

[@bluberybooks2963]

Samee, cleaning rn and listening to this, it's so relaxing, a literal brain massage while doing the most boring tasks🤌

[@kiwistars]

she was actually in the store longer than 6 minutes, because when he saw their car at the gas station and pulled in, she had already been inside the store and left the baby alone.

[@ek3719]

With the stripper one, I’m just confused as to why she allowed the dances to take place knowing it was crossing the boundary just having a stripper there. Having the stripper there and participating/engaging with the stripper are different. I think she’s in the wrong for that reason, if she didn’t have a dance then she wouldn’t have been in the wrong.

[@TheLadyWondergirl]

Exactly! Surprise or not, if she allowed the dances and his genitalia to be near her face, it’s already crossing the boundary, and yes it might not be serious enough to cancel the wedding over this, but personally it makes me question if she respects the relationship and op enough… might be the kind of person to never take accountability for anything 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@rebeccapeeler4435]

My grandfather was an orphan and a few years ago we found out he had a brother who was adopted. We visited his home and got to meet him. My grandpa was in his late 70s and his brother in his 80s. His brother was SO much like him it was scary! My grandfather is pretty much my favorite person in the world so it was so special to meet this other piece of him

[@KCDonkey]

The adoption story is one of my favorite Reddit posts. It's so beautiful how supportive and loving everyone is.

[@skinsciencebymira]

Honestly, THANK GOD for the friend telling her with the slug story. I’ve watched so many true crime stories where friends were aware of what was going on and said nothing till after someone was dead.

[@AlondraQ505]

Story about the bachelorette party: I have to side with him. He went about it as an adult and voiced his boundaries and they BOTH agreed. She’s an adult, she didn’t have to go lock herself in a room but she could have been like “look we had an agreement, you enjoy the stripper, would any of my friends like to take my seat in the center?” I agree and hope it doesn’t break their relationship and is something that can be talked out but his boundaries shouldn’t be minimized. And she should call out her friends if they knew and still got one.

[@ghostlylex5083]

Here is the thing with the stripper story. I believe, in all relationships it’s within their right to figure out what that specific person counts as cheating. Some couples think kissing is cheating, some even think having sex with others isn’t cheating. In this case, he said it was cheating, and made a boundary. The fiancé, even though she didn’t plan for this, did not deny, or do anything to stop the stripper even though she knew, it was a boundary and was considered cheating to him. She technically did cheat, because that was his boundary and she crossed it. The issue with your guys take last time, was you called him weak and insecure and ignored that he set a specific boundary with his fiancé. Just because strippers aren’t considered cheating for some, doesn’t mean they aren’t for others. As a woman; if my fiancé had allowed this to happen knowing my feelings; I’d also reconsider the marriage. It’s a blatant disrespect for ignoring my boundaries that both parties agreed too. Besides that, agreed with everything else.

[@ms.tinygiant]

Amen

[@georgiejeremy811]

My thoughts on the story about the wife being left out of family dinners: I get your point about enmeshment and agree but I think that racism was probably quite a large factor tbh. It would explain why the mum didn't take issue with her other sons' partners. Also the fact that he answered "maybe" shows that at the very least, she's probably said some offensive things in the past so he knows that it could be a reason.

[@kinseystubbs8609]

I still feel like the baby in the car was handled really well. The dad taking his baby out of an unlocked car still feels like the best move to me. Mom has PPD she’s already not in the right frame of mind. He kept the baby safe, and then brought the baby to her to show her baby was safe and okay. She’s the one that freaked out. She was only mad at herself for creating that situation, and once she saw baby was safe then she took out all of her big feelings on the dad. I don’t feel like him confronting her or embarrassing her would have gone over well as most moms with PPD already struggle with not feeling like they’re doing a good enough job, internally she already knows she messed up. I think the husband was treating her with kindness and patience by not rubbing the “kidnapped” baby in her face. He simply took his baby out of a dangerous situation until she came back.

[@choleymoley]

Yes! I would have taken the baby out of the car just for safety. Maybe it wasn’t even the intention to teach a lesson in the first place. I don’t get the public humiliation recommendation. That’s weird. I don’t see how that would change her response, I think one would be more inclined to play the victim with how clearly the intentions would be with the embarrassment scenario. Your point is really good - he just took the baby out of the car.

[@instantea]

Okay?

[@liliya701]

But why didn't he say to her, through a text message or something? Who teaches someone through trauma? I understand that he wanted to teach her a lesson, but in such ways he is only destroying her trust.

[@kinseystubbs8609]

@@liliya701 I see what you’re saying that if he would have communicated with her quicker, that he could have maybe avoided her being so upset. However I don’t think he was trying to “teach her” anything, obviously I don’t know them and don’t want to assume, but I’d like to think of my self in her shoes, and what my own husband might do in that sort of scenario. I think he saw his baby in a dangerous situation and wanted to observe how severe his wife’s mindset was by seeing how long she left the baby alone.

[@stirlingarcher7972]

@@liliya701 he already tried to talk to her about it before and she lied and said she’d stop doing it. She’s already destroyed the trust between them by continuing to put their infant child in danger over and over and then lying about it. There is no trust when your partner is neglecting your child and it IS neglect. It’s literally criminal levels of neglect to repeatedly leave that baby in the car alone.

[@thatonecatlady]

Thank you for coming back to the stripper story, I was suuuuuper disappointed watching the original episode and seeing you guys putting the blame on the fiance for being "insecure"

[@trinidadmunozz]

im always so glad to see lauren idk why but she's very comforting! also i loved the tefi episode a lot it's one of my favourites so far people need to chill honestly. great episode, i live for the way morgan is always like "this is emotional incest" and she's absolutely right every single time go off queen

[@aliciaolvera4265]

I liked Lauren’s soda joke 😁

[@AJ-qe5xj]

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Don’t feel bad if your opinions conflict with some of your viewers, it’s perfectly fine as long as you keep maintaining the respect for other people to have their own opinions.

[@MsMoonDragoon]

Except there are some opinions that are just devoid of deserving respect. you don't have to respect every opinion someone spouts.

[@4theluvofshalyssa]

@@MsMoonDragoon but honestly that’s not most opinions, unless your opinion tramples on basic human/civil rights, you should be respected enough to maintain civil discourse as long as everyone is mature and can maintain emotional control.

[@lyndsycarson8302]

Slug dude is a serial killer, like he is testing the waters and pushing boundaries to see how far and what he can do to her until she dies. My God, some people are so brain broken. Mental health is not an excuse to be an asshole! I was narcissistic, adhd, ptsd, depression. I was an asshole, i got help, found jesus( sorta) got married and am the best mother and wife I can be and try to improve everyday!

[@SavvyGirl751]

“Brain broken” is a f*cked up thing to say about someone that is being abused. It’s called Stockholm syndrome/trauma bond. You have more work to do.

[@mandamercury]

Hey, I have ADHD and I just wanted to let you know that some symptoms of ADHD are similar to symptoms of NPD. So if you were diagnosed with ADHD first, and then NPD after that, it's actually possible you don't have ADHD at all; like a misdiagnosis. I'm not a doctor or a professional, but I have heard of this happening before.

[@jesschavez2802]

Killers usually have mental illnesses too and in some cases I think it does in a way “excuse” their actions. Not everyone has the resources to get the help and some peoples mental illnesses are a lot more severe than other’s. You can’t compare your mental illnesses with someone else’s because yours may not be as severe as theirs. It doesn’t make their actions acceptable by any means but that’s why in court you can plead insanity instead of going to jail you go to a mental health facility. Slug guy could potentially be dangerous if he doesn’t get help now. If he keeps going on the path he is, then yeah he’ll end up being a killer

[@dianamnajarro5119]

@@mandamercury you can still be and have both regardless of sharing similar symptoms. It's the differentiating symptoms that would tell us if it's one or the other or both. There is a list what they have in common and what they have different, it the differences that will determine what it is.

[@TheLILY567]

My dad always told me to lock up my bike… me being a lazy 12 year old one time I went to school and left my bike unlocked and my dad came to pick me up from school (I had no idea). He took my bike unlocked placed it in his trunk and waited to watch me panic and call him. I never left my bike unlocked after that 😂

[@hannahckirk]

This is absolutely something my dad would’ve done too & it really is effective lol. So that’s why I personally think what the husband did in that leaving the baby in the car story was justified. She needed to learn. Babies can die in MINUTES in a hot car. In this instance two wrongs do make a right because the life of their child is on the line. Yes she had PPD & I respect that’s why she did it. And was it cruel to make her think her child got stolen? Yes, but it was also cruel of her to leave her kid alone in the car everyday!! They’re both justified in being upset (him more so imo) but hopefully she gets over it & when she’s not suffering from PPD anymore she’ll be horrified by what she did & grateful her husband was there to watch out for their child’s safety

[@kristentucker1049]

It drives me nuts when people ask for other peoples advice and then when you don’t tell them exactly what they want to hear, they get defensive.

[@cydneychurchwell9213]

I worked at an inpatient psych unit. Unfortunately a lot of people with aspd don’t benefit from individual therapy because it can sometimes do the opposite of help. This is because people with aspd thrive from shock value and making people uncomfortable which is not beneficial in counseling.

[@kerry0010]

I’m happy you did this episode. I’ve been hoping for a revisit of the stripper story since the moment I heard it - I thought the take was so sexist and unfair that I almost stopped listening to the podcast. I don’t think the do over was all the way there, you’re giving too much credit to the fiancé. She could have done many things that didn’t involve her active and happily willing participation in crossing the one boundary OP set out. She was allowed to say ‘no thanks, ill remove myself from this situation’ but she chose to lie down and encourage it. This is what we all had an issue with. She actively participated and all you focused on them (and tbh, all you focused on now) was if what she did should constitute as cheating 😂 But regardless, I’m very happy you aren’t invalidating him and tearing him down like what happened on the first take. At least that’s an honest start in a good direction.

[@amylynnsgraphics]

Been binging your shows because it's fun to listen to while at work. My unsolicited advice to you Morgan as someone who's been married almost 10 years, the holiday stress is REAL!!! OMG I used to HATE Thanksgiving because of all of the drama especially when it involved my sister. If you and Justin ever get married or you can start this process now if you want, but this advice was initially was given to me by a Pastor, and I gotta say it's good advice. You and Justin, pick at least ONE holiday that you would normally spend with both of your families and it can be anyone you want, and spend it just the two of you, no extended family. This will allow you both to establish new traditions - your own traditions where you find out what you both like and don't like and what you want to continue to do. The other thing this does is reset the expectations of your family, it separates you and Justin as your own family unit and you will both pick and choose what holidays you decide to spend with them and releases you from all expectations.

[@mmemonarch]

Why the F hasn't there been an update about slug boy going to prison?! That's not just something you sweep under the rug of "personality disorder". This guy needs to be charged and held responsible for her medical bills!

[@hayleeofthevalley]

I think the reason he got a diagnosis is because he’s in some kind of mental health facility lol

[@arixoxoxo]

PERIOD

[@C0C0N0T]

I'm so happy to see Lauren!!! I love her on the show so much, she brings such a good energy!!❤️ Edit: Moral of the story; Lauren tries her best and we appreciate her. Thank you thats all.

[@c-3786]

If that one girl think she is a “good man for her” then at this point, they deserve each other. I hope someday she isn’t so damn blind; reminds me of too many people I know. I was stuck in an abusive relationship for three years; I know how hard it is to leave and it took me literally moving out, but so whatever it takes. Please. Nothing will feel more beautiful than your freedom, and certainly not this asshole.

[@LeilaleilaZ]

Right? I'm sorry, I have no pity for her. She's been told by multiple people that she's being treated like shit and there's even racist undertones to the issues but she just sits there and takes it. What is she going to do, keep posting on reddit everytime he tries to gaslight her with no outcome at all? She just accepts it and continues to be in that toxic ass relationship? Ffs, just leave the man

[@c-3786]

I kept listening and the fact she is pregnant now, I have a little sympathy, but she is kind of dumb, honestly, so my sympathy is for the child.

[@BisexualBeauty]

yea sad tho she preg now poor kid honestly some should not PROCREATE!!

[@juliaortiz6483]

@@LeilaleilaZ i don’t understand why she keeps posting just to tell everyone who comments that they’re wrong and don’t know what they’re talking about. like what’s the point.

[@en5038]

absolutely loved this update episode!! I’ve been listening to it over and over on Spotify since yesterday night hahaha 🤩 it’s super refreshing to hear anyone talk about either reaffirming their point of view or expanding and reflecting on their previous take- I haven’t seen any other pod I listen to do this before! super glad this episode happened! 🥳🥳🥳 PS! would love a pick-me episode, also would love to see you explore more subreddits in the future!

[@TwoHotTakes]

Thank you for sharing! I didn't think we were doing anything new so I love that this will be a recurring theme now. Ohhh do I have some wild ones coming!! NoSleep is on my list right now..

[@Thegiddyowl]

Baby in the car: dad is NTA, and if he brought baby in the store to shame the mom that would have put her in panic mode regardless. He did the right thing and now mom is getting help.

[@sugarcubexd8882]

The comment the docter made in the slug story reminds me of the first therapist i tried. When I told he rI couldnt bring myself to eat anything anymore she replied with "Okay but you can stand too loose some weight" She also told me "Your dad never loved you and probably never will" why are people like this in these professions? My docter recommended her saying she was the best in the area..

[@srtatropicalia]

Oof if she's considered the best in the area I wonder how many vulnerable people she has talked shit to

[@hvnterly8388]

A lot of people (like rich kids) have the money to access the higher education, either know it’s a good paying job (doctors) or find psychology “interesting.” And then lack empathy and other such emotions because the most struggle they’ve had in their lives was trying to stay up past bedtime to study for their exams, or normal life trauma like suddenly losing a family member. I speak from the personal experience of my well off friends only having the emotional capacity to say, “damn that sucks,” and you can see on their face they hope the deep conversation ends there. And then they’re in college going for psychology degrees. I’d never want to be their patient, despite loving them for other aspects of their personalities. I think the difference in whether they actually become good at their job or not is just personal engagement. It’s fine if a server just shows up to work to get paid and leave and doesn’t particularly care or love their job (I say as a server myself), but if my doctor or therapist was only there for the check I’D BE CONCERNED. The personality type who does the bare minimum needed to maintain their position, without the extra care and follow through of someone genuinely invested in their job. It’s depressingly common across all jobs, because humans will be humans.

[@adriennecgomez]

Girl you're fiance is a RACIST. Full stop, do not pass go, do not collect $200. Get out. He will give you nothing but misery. Not having this man in your life is what is best for you and your child.

[@MsBlackGrudge]

To me, Laruen's hypothetical locking yourself in a room in response to an unwanted stripper is the answer if your partner has a hard boundary.

[@alaskaroller2192]

Idk, if the fiancé didn’t know there was going to be a stripper, and then there was one without her knowledge, why would she hide it from her husband? If she was truly so caught off guard that she didn’t leave and all of that happened, she should’ve been honest and let him know what went on. She knew she was in the wrong. She hid it from him. It’s really nice to see an episode where y’all take a new look at things though. It’s so rare to see content creators actually say “maybe I was wrong here” and listen to the criticisms against them. This was a really nice episode :)

[@cinderellawithashotgun]

well, like they said in the video, she didn't get a chance to. he was told before she had the opportunity to

[@sydneym9173]

The second story has me scratching my head on what to think. I wonder how bad her upbringing was for her self esteem to be SO low to thinking she was wrong in either story, and to think he is an acceptable partner. The car seat one has me puzzled on her input. PPD is NOT an excuse to risk your child’s safety and life. That excuse ends when he had the conversation of don’t leave our baby in the car unattended and unlocked. She did it anyway and got a harsh dose of reality.

[@kalem339]

If the boundary was to not have $tripper$ then even if it was a surprise, she should've sent him home. She was 100% capable of saying "no"

[@hannahckirk]

I like all the regular cohosts but the episodes with Lauren are my personal favorite!

[@jayaitch88]

Soooo glad you addressed the baby in the car story. Tefi was all kinds of wrong on that.

[@jayaitch88]

A new episode?? And Lauren’s here?? AND we have time stamps?? Woohoo Christmas came early!!

[@Kitakat994]

Sadly, I think calling her out on leaving a child in the car in such a public place, it could be considered a form of psychological abuse because you’d be embarrassing her in a public setting as well as if anyone does overhear they could very well call cps. 😅

[@TheLadyWondergirl]

Embarrassing her? She put their child’s life in danger… with those things there are no “o next time honey…”

[@lilianapatriciavillarroels3249]

The story 1:16:17 I couldn't finish that video because of the way they didn't respect his limits, I felt vulnerable and it wasn't my story. Hearing a different opinion now is encouraging. 🙏🏼💪🏼

[@crashtatti]

ngl i don’t love how when lauren tries to keep certain things private then morgan is like, “oh yeah it was your parents wasn’t it??” like dude let your hosts keep their personal lives to themselves if they want to, keep oversharing if that’s your preference but don’t offer up information about friends & family without them giving the ok or in the case with lauren bringing up a smidge of her childhood & deliberately ommitting any names & morgan just offers up the info like that’s not something she just tried to keep to herself or when she just offers up deeply personal post partum depression stories from her sister in law like i hope these ppl are cool with sharing this stuff or at least take the hint when they aren’t as mentioned above

[@candicemorrison7696]

Anti social personality disorder is what a majority of serial killers have. Starts as a child with conduct disorder.

[@patriciadioknoia8822]

That was sooo scary 😬 He seriously needs to be removed from society.

[@bethsaltz7980]

I love this update episode so Thank you for giving it to us. As for the Father taking his son from the gas station to prove a point to his wife. I 100% agree w the father, your child should never be out of your eye sight.. ever!!. That father may just have saved his wife’s life & son because we do not know what else she was doing. But through Reddit he realized she needed therapy for ppd and hopefully got her help. Thank you for clarifying the issues with Tefis episode, that clears up a lot.

[@liamisaac1152]

Another cool similarity I just realized about OP and his birth father, OP mentioned at the end he’s started to like writing because it’s therapeutic for him. Meanwhile his dad also found comfort in writing (the journal he wrote for OP). Just thought that was kind of sweet

[@liviwall662]

Honestly the story is so wholesome, his adoptive and bio parents supported him so much and it's great to hear

[@isabellabzowski2625]

Him making her feel like the baby was gone was the best solution. Like yes she can’t understand the lesson right away but that feeling will stick with her so she will never do it again. I genuinely believe people never understand until they experience it in some way.

[@amymehany]

I looooove that you guys addressed the stripper one because that bothered me so much, but I feel like you still missed part of the story. Yes, she didn't want to kill the mood by making the stipper leave - they can still have fun but she did not respect the boundary by being like hey pls don't put anything on me or my face - everyone else still could have enjoyed. Then when he asked her about it she kind of was like ya it happened but I didn't plan it so no biggie. She's not at fault for the stripper or not wanting to kill the mood, but she didn't respect this very important boundary in the moment or afterwards when apologize. He is questioning if she dosent respect this then what other boundaries as well. I hope this gave you food for thought and I major respect that you did this!!

[@TheatreFreak72]

You said you wanted us to be honest in the feedback for this one sooo I’m gonna. Love the updates part! But on the do-overs it got a little messy. It felt like Lauren was genuinely listening to the comments and understanding where people were coming from. Morgan felt like she was trying, but at the end of almost every story she back tracked and just double downed on what she said the first time. There’s nothing wrong with standing in your own opinion, but when you are saying it’s a “do-over” it felt kinda invalidating to just have the other opinions talked about and then pushed aside. I think it’s a great idea for an episode just think the format needs to be adjusted. Maybe have more people on for the do-overs to have a much bigger discussion about the topics rather than just having one person kinda be the devil’s advocate for the audience. I promise I’m not trying to be mean, i genuinely love listening to you guys! I drive a bunch for work so y’all help with that A LOT. But I know you want your audience to give honest feedback, so that’s what I’m trying to do. Love you guys!

[@biitchstix]

Yea idk I felt some of the stories and responses were really glossed over. I think it would be better done reaction-style so everyone can reply to the original version as it plays.

[@juliaortiz6483]

i agree!

[@waaxiu]

Totally agree! Would love if they just added a segment on the end of future episodes for updates and whatnot

[@MathildeRo29]

Agreed she just kept the same opinion, why the do-overs if youre not listening to us

[@mysticdigital5936]

I disagree. I think she stood in her opinions, which is fine, but elaborated on why she felt that way, which is the important part.

[@Valeria.Abarca]

I love this episode and I’m so glad you guys made it!! I hope you make more update episodes, I’ve listened to every episode and I always want to know what else happened to some of these stories. I want another Morgan, Lauren and Alejandra episode soon!

[@juliadupont7252]

You just SAVED my day Morgan, thank you for this episode ! This channel is a confort space (? You get it)

[@TwoHotTakes]

Happy to help

[@cooking.withkatt]

not y’all not seeing how tefi is wrong 🤦🏽‍♀️ that’s a child’s life at risk!. no grey area in leaving a baby in a car. don’t say it’s tough one. it’s simple don’t leave your child in the car alone!

[@jennagrooms2466]

I talked with my boyfriend about the baby in the car story because I know I would’ve reacted differently with him than I would have if I was still with my ex. With my ex, I would’ve done exactly what the dad did. If she thought she was right and I was wrong about something, she would continue to do what she wanted and I would have to get dramatic in order to get my point across. In that situation, taking the baby out of the car would’ve been the only way she would understand how serious I was being. But with my current boyfriend, if I say, “don’t do that,” he would listen and respect my wishes without hesitation. That for me shows how toxic my last relationship was compared to my new relationship and makes me think there are different ways for serious issues to be handled by each couple and the only way to figure out what works is to communicate and listen to each other. I’m glad in OP’s story they got to the bottom of their issues and are working together going forward to do better by each other. But I agree on both counts that the situation could’ve been handled better by OP, but also that might’ve been the wake up call she needed to understand how bad her postpartum depression had gotten.

[@rai1578]

Hey, I love this episode, and I also think it's an important reminder that people's opinions can change and that sometimes our own life experiences can create a bias. I might get a bit of hate for my own horrible take, but I have a little story I want to share of how I had a bad take on a reddit story and the response I got. To start off, I am a disabled person. I have several different conditions and they interfere a lot with my life. And my whole life I've been very used to people complaining about how inconvenient my disabilities are for them. It's something that I always saw as very normal, and in a way, justifiable. So when I saw a story about someone who was disabled who's brother complained about them being really slow with cleaning and things..... I said that it was understandable because while they're not our fault, sometimes our disabilities do inconvenience others. Well, I got pretty heavily downvoted, some harsh comments, and notably.... someone even gave me the facepalm award. Somebody paid money to tell me I was being a stupid ahole. It was embarassing, but I'm SO glad it happened. Because that helped to recontextualize a lot of my own experiences and be more aware of my internalized ableism. As a result, I've been able to be more forgiving to myself for how my disabilities affect others, and I've been a better advocate for both myself and other disabled people. We're never done learning or growing, and just because somebody had a bad opinion doesn't mean it can't change.

[@TwoHotTakes]

Thank you for sharing 🤍 I’m so glad you’ve been working on that because no one deserves to feel like a burden. Yay Reddit even though I’m sure it sucked in the moment

[@KenzieKullen]

Slug girl still finding slugs in her apartment: I was wondering if the BF put some (idk if slugs have nests?) in her apartment before they broke up to mess with OP and now they’re just… there. Like the cup under the sink still had slugs, i totally feel like he is the type to do a longcon to impact her mental state

[@nancybarrera137]

I’m really bad at debating so I can really appreciate when people like you guys have the courage to put your opinion out to the public, I don’t agree with everything but it is refreshing hearing different opinions besides mine even if I get angry at first lol, love you guys, greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽

[@poppycottee8707]

I honestly think if the baby story had been on any other episode Morgan's reaction would've been completely different. Typically, she is incredibly defensive over babies & bad parenting etc, so I really think her reaction came from mirroring Tefi. As someone with autism myself, i know how hard it is to not mask and to maintain my own opinion without feeling influence from others. I'm glad she's aware how she doesn't necesarrily express her true opnions at the extent of the guest (which is undertsandable) but it would be nice to see Morgan can grow to feel comfortable and solid in her takes on the stories

[@Tt-qm2xg]

#3 - slug partner I have PTSD and I hallucinate and have for many years that I see, hear and feel my ex. It's much better nowadays with exposure therapy. But this woman sounds like she had PTSD (seeing slugs everywhere and nothing stops them coming in).

[@HiiIamJu]

So, I listened to the episode on Spotify as soon as it came out and I've been thinking a lot about the "pick me girl" episode. I totally get where Morgan's coming from, the line between calling out pick mes and being a pick me is very blurry. So I though what if you make a "pick me" episode? About both pick me boys and pick me girls. Pick me boys are totally a thing and don't get as talked about as pick me girls, i think that would make an amazing topic and i'd love to hear your opinions about both phenomenons.

[@TwoHotTakes]

Someone messaged me this idea too and this is exactly how I’m going to do it. There’s pick mes everywhere

[@HiiIamJu]

@@TwoHotTakes I can't wait!

[@SammyLammy1D]

@@TwoHotTakes please include incels too. They are the absolute worst.

[@kaylasalazargrace]

Please do more like this episode! I loved hearing the updates, as well as going back and reviewing previous stories to see whether or not opinions have changed.

[@biitchstix]

Glad you talked about the stripper story bc that was the one take that genuinely left a bad taste in my mouth. I do enjoy the podcast for the most part but the one criticism I have is that, although it's usually not as bad as the response to that particular guy, I do think you + some of the guests can be quite dismissive of mens feelings and issues often.

[@owltakeurman2563]

I just want to say thank you for pushing therapy and mental health as much as you do. I have been binge watching your podcast for months now and finally took the first step in getting help with my mental help that has been struggling for years. You make it feel like such a comfortable decision to get help and really helped me make my choice in getting help! Thank you for being so open and supportive to all your listeners! You are amazing! ❤️

[@wtchove]

i am so happy the birth mom story has an update!! it made me cry that night when i heard it

[@nataliaos5656]

ok min 39:10 when they talk about the 100 pound Sisters, there is a really funny part of the show where one of the sisters tells the doctos "I think that I am pregnant because I'm having weird cravings" and the doctor is like "what cravings" and the woman is "water" 😂 and the sister in the off camera interview " You are not pregnant you are f*king thirsty"🤣🤣🤣

[@Ali-ew4zx]

The first story.. literally my MIL. I am not black and I couldn’t imagine that being mixed in with a mother in law who is so obsessed with their son so much they won’t let their son be happy with anyone else. This poor woman, my heart goes out to her, especially hearing the husband is content with how his mother acts.

[@Draxxdemsklounst]

I'm so glad they came out with this episode! The updates were satisfying, and hearing the redos was super impressive! It takes a high level of maturity to admit that your take on a topic might not have been the best. Tbh, I was extremely put off by the episode with Tefi, to the point that I stopped watching the podcast for a while. A few weeks later, i started watching again, but the whole thing had soured me a bit on the show. Hearing Morgan talk about it now has erased any residual negativity I felt. I know I'm just some random listener, but I bet there are others in the same boat as me. Great job! 🥰

[@sarabohn5417]

Nope, never leave the baby alone in the car, not even for 30 seconds. Being right next to the car where you can see the baby is fine. But even just running in real quick is not ok because you never know what could happen.

[@MinkusTheCat]

Mad respect for this video. It’s interesting to see how some of your opinions have changed after reflecting and I really appreciate how you both opened up about biases that may have affected your judgement

[@LeeannG]

I think it’s also important not to blindly congratulate weight loss also. Every time a patient tells me they lost however many pounds, I always ask if it was intentional. Unintentional weight loss can be from stress or depression, or even things like parasites or cancer.

[@Kate-xv7hl]

My doc literally told me she was happy that I “wasn’t fat” when I mentioned my weight loss. Turned out to be cancer 😒😒😒

[@LeeannG]

@@Kate-xv7hl that’s awful and I’m so sorry that’s how your symptom was addressed. I hope you are in the road to remission, if not there already. ❤️

[@Estherangel101]

I agree! I don’t even like to comment or ask about anyones weight, but I also react the same when people tell me they gained or lost. It’s so important to understand the context but also find ways to support them.

[@abbystarheart1]

I dont think i heard it mentioned but its worth noting that when people talk about "sociopathy", they usually actually mean ASPD, as sociopathy isnt a diagnosis!

[@Refpup]

Thank you so much for this episode!! Best thing I could have woken up to! I, and surely many others, were hoping the baby in the car would be part of this episode as soon as I saw the title. Fair warning, this is a long comment but I promise it's worth the read!

[@sleepyspacegremlin]

I have several chronic health conditions and I can't tell you how many medical professionals have said some absolutely vile garbage to me. It haunts you forever. Luckily, you can submit a complaint. I now have what's known as "white coat syndrome", which is when your blood pressure goes up around doctors, nurses, etc.