Should Your Fairway Wood Shaft Match Your Driver Shaft?

[@evansnyder5948]

It’s cool to see a guy who has been professionally fitting for years and still learning and getting surprised from results. Great work.

[@smkgolf]

Always had a rule that if a teacher or a fitter acts like they understand everything, they aren't worth it. Best teachers are always the best learners

[@GolfLife_]

@@smkgolf facts. I love learning 😉

[@igolffff]

It's so great seeing Matt's smooth, consistent swing doing the testing

[@brint90]

This is the OG TXG vids that brought all the fans in the first place! Love this stuff keep it coming!

[@rowlandbarrett6594]

Wish I could go for a fitting with so many options. Great video & knowledge as always guys. Matt’s swing is just awesome 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾

[@chico3136]

Love my Ventus Blue in my TSI3 Driver so assumed the Ventus Red would be a nice choice for my TSR2 5 wood since I was looking for a higher launch off the deck. And the perfect example of why you get fit because I couldn’t get any height out of the Ventus Red lol. Went back to the stock AV Blue Raw and it works like a charm. Just Get Fit (feel free to use that as your new slogan TXG).

[@medfloat5001]

This was the type of testing that made me a subscriber and your interaction with each other kept me here. Great content again!

[@mjbone23]

I have ventus blk 6x in my driver. Have had issues finding a fairway wood I like, went with black 7 stiff. It was a great choice

[@sebastienjuteau2459]

This is one of the most interesting fitting videos I’ve seen! Great job guys!!

[@austinlee9253]

So happy to see this type of content coming out from TXG, again! Would love to see a deep dive on swing weight sometime. Maybe building up multiple 6 irons and drivers at different SW to see the effects. Could even have Mikey and Ian both go through it to see the difference with swing speeds.👍🏻

[@donkee9]

I play the graphite design DI 6s with ping g425 lst swing speed 110. I really want to give that ventus red a shot seems so easy to get the shape I desire more often.

[@Tov87]

Great video!I just had a fitting this weekend for a 3 wood and found something similar. My current driver is TSi3 w/ Ventus Blue 6x. Tried multiple shafts in TSr2 3 wood and thought we’d settled on Ventus Red 7x with the aim of increasing launch and spin. At the end we tried Ventus Blue 7x in the 3 wood and it blew everything out the park. Higher launch and better spin! Didn’t expect to be fit into the same as my driver!

[@djmico0713]

In a prior fit, I had the same shaft in DR and 3W (3W just shorter and the next weight up). Recently went to CC for a long game fit and was looking like it was going to be the same thing with 3W and DR until the fitter said “let’s just try the ventus blue TR and see how it does” I then hit the best 5 shots with my 3W. The fitter then put a ventus blue in the DR and I saw a further upgrade over the shaft he had originally picked. Finished with Ventus Blue 6x in the DR and Ventus Blue TR 7S in the 3W

[@chrisb.4496]

Sucker born every second...

[@JLXPOfficial]

Were you keeping with 6x in the fairway woods or did you move to 7x? I notice almost all Tour players who have Ventus throughout woods go 6x driver -- 7 or 8x in 3w and then maybe 9x in 5w

[@cryptoking8060]

I actually went the other way. I bought a 7 wood of all things and unbelievable how easy it is to hit a high draw. It has the Red Ventus in it. I have the Blue in my 3 wood and love it. Now I want to put a Red into my driver. Currently have the Diamana Dialed mid kick shaft. Like it but not even close to as good of flight and feel as the Red Ventus in the 7 wood.

[@danthompson9264]

These guys are the best. I’ve learned so much about equipment watching this channel

[@mulvihillmatt]

Really interesting test. The peak height for all seemed to be mostly the same which I found surprising. The Red is just a beast in a fairway wood.

[@thegolfingmusician6345]

I have Tour Edge C721 fairway woods with Ventus Red shafts and myself as well as my playing partners are blown away by the performance I get out of these.

[@FullContactDrummer]

This is a great video. I just had a fitting and learned my shafts are not stiff enough. I'm going to get a new driver, FW and probably a hybrid and was wondering about this.

[@docomo661]

I play the Ventus TR Black 6S tipped 0.5” in my G430 LST driver, and the Ventus TR Red 6S tipped 0.75” in my PXG 0311X Gen 4 7 wood. Need the lower launch and spin off my driver, and the higher launch in the 7W to land them nice and soft from 210-220 yards out.

[@keithfinley2939]

That black tracer looked badass...

[@JMSBeale]

Ian's description that the softer flex tip section on the Red kicks the club head further out and further forward was incredibly helpful. In order to center the strike on my hybrids and and woods, I have to stand slightly further away from the ball than I do with my irons...even though all of them are custom-fit for lie angle and shaft length. It is nice to finally understand the physics of why this change of my address position is necessary. Thank you for sharing your expertise on the channel so generously!

[@dougmael]

I play the Ventus TR Blue (6R, tipped 1/2”) in my driver, and just recently put a Ventus TR Red (7S, untipped) in my 4 wood. I was formerly playing a 77 gram stiff shaft with a very similar profile to the Ventus TR Blue in the same 4 wood, and I definitely prefer the Ventus TR Red in that fairway wood. I get the ball flight that I prefer (mid-high flight with a hair more backspin and about 10 yards more carry) with that Ventus TR Red 7S. From off of a tee, I would be happy with either shaft, or a Ventus Blue, in my 4 wood, but from the fairway on par 5 holes the higher flight with more backspin that I get with that TR Red is certainly welcome to give me a softer landing shot with less run-out.

[@uwrossl]

That TSr2 3 wood sounds incredible. Powerful sound. Love it.

[@ChrisJackson36]

Really neat to see that the results aren’t always so straight forward. Makes you wonder if you should go back to the driver and check the red and black as well to see how yardage spacing works with those against the three in the fairway wood. Lots to digest here.

[@TimKelly-ov9jq]

Great video. I have the Ventus Red TR in the driver, loved it, so I put it in the 3 and 5 fairway with same specs/weight and it's perfect for me/my swing.

[@The_sunday_lout]

Great video guys, I recently had a fitting for a new 3 wood shaft. Long story short, Tsi2 with Tensei blue shaft. Thought I was you average joe, SS 96mph with the 3 wood so mid launch mid spin shaft blah blah blah. Just wasn’t getting what I though I should out of it. So went and got fit for new shaft, at fitting discovered (fitters info) I have a slow/smooth tempo but a harsh transition. So the softer tipped shafts Tensei blue/VA slay we’re just getting left behind, blocks left and duck hooks with no spin (leftie). Fitter changed it up, stuck a Diamana DF in and boom. Spin jumped from mid 2000s to mid 3’s. As confidence grew, so did swing speed. Ended up maxing out at 103mph with spin @ 3700. So we decide to go for the DF in stuff but tipped to make it play a little more stiff then stiff. My absolute favourite club now, next on list is the get a retro fit on Driver shaft as have a Va Baddazz fitted in that and feel there’s more to be got with the new swing info. Any suggestions guys?

[@jonathanbrown9245]

Just about to watch this, but thought I'd drop an opinion first. I'd say no, the lengths are different, as are the head weights. I think there should be a gentle progression in weight from driver, lightest shaft, upto wedge heaviest shaft.

[@jayhales3822]

I play matching Cobra S9-1M driver and fairway woods with the same Adila DVS shafts. I love the same bend profile and kick point which I feel keeps my swing more consistent.

[@jackychuang4692]

Driver with ventus black and 3w with ventus blue works perfect for me.

[@FF04RDF]

I just got a good fitting. Matching never entered my head. Have Graphite Design XC 6S in Driver and Mitsubishi C6 in both 3w and 5w. (The C6 was just brilliant in the fitting. Soon as I hit it I was sold. Tried maybe 4 or 5 different shafts but kept going back to the C6. Really great price too)

[@JohnnyRad769]

Have Velocore+ Blue on my Stealth 2 Driver and Velocore Reds on my 3 and 5 wood Sim2’s. I play them all well, Red adds some nice kick up on the fairway woods provided that you keep your attack angle slightly negative and are taking a divot. If you try to sweep or get too positive with Red off the deck, you get lower line drives…which is actually fine if you’re stuck under a tree on a Par 5 and need to keep it low!

[@qabanisolupafya3681]

Awesome work lads. The 3 Wood shaft vs driver shaft has been a confusing thing for me. Thanks for the clarification!

[@golfdoctorphd]

might sound odd but i play the ventus tr blue 6s tipped quarter inch in the driver, and the ventus black 6s tipped half inch in my 4 wood.

[@skylarsteel91]

I play ventus black 6X in the TSi3 driver and black 7x in my sim 2 TI 3 wood and atmos tour black in my 5 wood. All 3 shafts virtually identical and seems to fit me great.

[@SaltyDogPerformance]

I use the same series of Accra GX 200 M5 shafts on my driver, 3 wood, and 3 hybrid.

[@timseebold2355]

Great vlog, very interesting! Fit fit fit! 👍

[@evandh1989]

A clarifying question: Are these the same shafts, as in identical in length and weight? Or are they the same as in they’re each the Ventus Blue, Red, and Black, but still different weights/lengths to account for the difference between hitting driver and 3W?

[@curtvass6236]

I had the same question

[@jeremyrepp6544]

This was really interesting for me in my most recent fitting. Previously, I had been fit into the same shaft (save for maybe a difference in weight) in driver and 3 wood. My most recent fitting, though had an Tensei AV Raw White 65S in the driver and a VA Composites Nemesys 65R in the 3 wood. The matching shafts tried in each club had very different results.

[@CiTRusEnIMa1]

WOW, literally been thinking about this forever... excited for this one for sure

[@steinfonell4915]

love it! how great to see surprised faces ...

[@kylem1834]

My fitting at TXG a month ago came to 3 different heads with 2 different shafts (3 & 5 shafts are the same)

[@jimfarrell7196]

Definitely surprised by the Ventus Red. Thank you.

[@the1burger]

I play Ventus TR Blue 6X in my TSI3, and Black 7X in my stealth plus 3W, works magic for me.

[@pacypacman]

i can imagine that your 3wood goes really with such a low spin combo

[@maxwellbewley5494]

I have Tensei 1K pro white 70TX in my stealth plus. And Kaili white 80TX in my stealth plus 3W. Really good combo

[@chadjames1808]

Watching all of your videos makes me wish I could get fitted by you guys. Amazing content!

[@locobenno9435]

I've always been a proponent of using the same shaft and flex in drivers and fairways, just the next weight up for the fairways....regarding the Ventus shafts, I was fit into Blue for my current driver purchase but wasn't offered Red during my fitting which I'm spewing about now, because the Red is so much better for me

[@kevbloss]

Spot on guys, thank you. Exactly what I needed for some decision making!

[@maamold]

I love the Ventus Blue in my FW woods. Only other comment to the video is to not use black tracer, tough to see the ballflight between the other two on the grid view.

[@ipotato95]

This video is why people need to get fit. On the product page you would see the ventus red being the highest launch/spin and the black being the lowest, but people are unique and swing different. Makes it really hard to guess what equipment you should get

[@stepheningerski9177]

Did a TM fitting and was floored in trying to fit for a fairway. Couldn’t get an ADDI airborne, but the Ventus Black was so much easier to launch for me No logic to that based on the brochure characteristics - but just worked

[@hoopscoach2234]

I've recently added TM Stealth 5w & 7w and both have ventus TR red 6s and I hit them fantastic. Not happy w sim2 driver w hzrdus smoke 6.0 60g. Should I try red TR in driver?

[@gothic8]

Very impressive data!

[@zacharymilos392]

Any time I see comments online where people ask for a "high spin" or "xyz" shaft, I'm just going to send them this video. I really wish this kind of info made it's way into golf magazines and forums alike - the masses need to be educated.

[@Frozentoeww]

Some say it’s mostly better that you go with the same flex, but 10g heavier on the wood. But I agree with you. Definitely no problem if you put same shaft on the driver and the fairway wood.

[@brianbillings6815]

I have the opposite issue, love the shaft in my fairway wood and can't find a driver shaft. I get it, professional fitting helps but with all the makes and models of shafts available it's a never ending problem. It's the feel of the shaft that can't be quantified and that I haven't come close to finding.

[@ermangus]

I fit into a UST LinQ Black 8F5.... Since then all fairway wood shafts fell super light from the deck.

[@davehurley26]

Brilliant video 👍👍

[@chrisbye8203]

Great video, I think this highlights the choice at a fitting really well. The red was the stand out performer, but was it the best fit in relation to driver? The red might win on a launch monitor, but the blue would offer more versatility and be better on the course.

[@ConnorLyon]

For future tests can you guys substitute the black ball tracer for white? Much easier to see the white against the black background of the tracer chart. 😅

[@JLP2X81]

Red all day!! 🔥

[@walksax]

Matty’s back, had to re-subscribe!

[@paulbown3960]

England smashing Wales in the world cup and a TXG video. doesn't get much better

[@giooquendo]

currently rocking the hzrdus 6.5 blue in my ltdx and the hzrdus 6.0 black in my sim 2 3 wood. driver is good, wood is a hook due to stiffness

[@bobtaylor205]

I have the Ventus red. Velicore and would like to get the right 3 wood shaft.

[@michael93y]

Outside of this testing environment, when you're out on the course trying to shoot your lowest score you want to reduce your variables to the least amount possible. For the casual golfer that doesn't play as frequently this is great because the feels are similar. For the better golfer or one that plays more frequently they don't need reminding "hey my 3 wood the tip will be stiffer do I need to close the face more?, do I need to swing more aggressively?". It's totally up to the golfer's feels and how much they want to think on the course under pressure.

[@brandonhinderer226]

Great information!

[@ericft1]

Love this video! Any thoughts on shaft weight? Typical one weight class up in 3/4 wood but I noticed I do better with same weight as driver. Is this something you have seen in fits?

[@RayzTeeZ]

Excellent video!

[@retired8123]

When getting fit is being able to hit my start line more important or shot shape I desire. My Tsi2 7wood in B1 setting is great for hitting my start line . c3 helps my draw shape but my start line suffers

[@ccollinsworthov]

Quick question. Should I have the same stiffness of shaft in my irons as my Driver and fairway metals?

[@stevenogletree2762]

I have Ventus Red 5 S in Driver, what do you think I should play in the 3 wood?

[@craigmoy5457]

fitted for Blue in driver and GAPR and red in 3 wood, seem to work for me

[@paulmoscicki2038]

Very interesting, would it be worth the look to try Ventus Red in Matt's driver???

[@CoolestGuyEverGuy]

I know ultimately you should get fit, but if you live in a more rural place that doesn’t have walls of aftermarket shafts, is the driver shaft you like a reasonable place to start for three wood? What about hybrid or driving iron?

[@richardmarsh1769]

I have a driver and Fw that the heads match - got fitted for 3w first into RDX blue 75g 6.0 - driver later into a Matore-x F1 , x-stiff - feel really different but feel I can draw 3w

[@NathanRiggle-dm5kc]

but what about weight. There is 7 series in X,S, etc, but then 6 X,S, etc. I play a 55 gram S flex in my driver, then I go into a 5 wood. (3 wood goes too long to be effective for a club choice I'd ever use. So should the 5 wood be a 65 gram S flex, then if I go into a 7 wood, should the 7 wood be 10 higher at 75 or keep it the same as the 5 wood in the 65 gram weight?

[@paulmcgeechan8503]

It might have been stated and I missed it, but we’re the fairway shafts all 6X’s, same as the driver 6X, or did you step them up to 7X’s?

[@fransjooste2331]

Would this also apply to iron shafts? I prefer feeling a shaft load, but launch the DG S300 shafts I currently play way too high, so don't want to risk getting new clubs with 'softer' shafts.

[@rogerfleming8358]

Interesting video 👍🏻

[@adamhillian967]

Any of u guys use 70g X-Stiff Hzrdus driver shaft? If so, really curious what shaft you’ve paired with your 3 wood? I’ve got an older Fujikura Atmos 7TX in a 13.5 deg 3 wood, and my miss is left (over draw). I don’t feel like the shaft is heavy/stiff enough in comparison to my driver.

[@nicholasphi6616]

just a quick reminder for everyone out there. The Ventus Red is by no means a “high” launching shaft. It is high launch relative to the rest of the Ventus Line Up. It’s more of a mid launch shaft

[@axelbahr5795]

How would the driver perform with Ventus red ? Surprisingly good as well ?

[@travispronschinske6511]

If I play a 67 Gram driver shaft would it make sense to play the same weight in 3 wood and 5 wood?

[@russbrown9286]

Dumb question. If hitting balls lower on face, can changing a shaft with to a softer tip raise contact point?? Such as red vs blue. All variables being the same. I understand that ball position and tee height have an impact.

[@dstangs21]

With testing and fitting shafts, are you still looking at primarily ball speed and efficiency? Or looking for the combo that gives you the best delivery traits?

[@jacoe33333]

Should the 3w shaft be heavier?

[@SONOMA_VALLEY_TOM]

I play these shafts. I have Tour Edge Exotics E722 Driver, 3W, 5W and 5 hybrid. Driver and 3W have Ventus Red. 5W has Ventus Blue. On the practice range I consistently hit the 5W a few yards longer than the 3W. As the 3W, 5W and hybrid are fixed hosels I can't swap them out for experimentation. The shaft variety is because I bought all the clubs used. Got a favorable price for the set.

[@briangraham1725]

I have the Mitsubishi Tensei white shafts, is there a difference between Blue and White? I thought it was just cosmetics.

[@manskavewoodworking8616]

Did he mention if these were the velocore versions?

[@EdgarJFeliz]

Great video, nice to see the comparison and the results of these shafts on my want list.

[@freddym6643]

Should your hybrid shaft match your fairway wood shaft???

[@davidm7031]

Matching 3W and driver doesn’t work for me. Done that when SIM came out with Ventus Blue. I also had a matching Ping 3W and 5W with the same shaft. Loved the feel of the 5W but the 3W felt loose.

[@sayork100]

Great video. I play a Ventus Black 6TX in driver. Have been happy with it and It’s not that easy for me to go get a quality fit like y’all offer. So, I just paired it with an 8TX in my 3w and 5w. I am happy with the setup but this just makes me want to really experiment more and find somewhere to test out other stuff!

[@terrybrewer4296]

As an average golfer it's hard for me to spend another $350 (might as well say $400 after tip, grip, and tax) to match my 3 to the Velocore Red that's in my driver. Mostly due to the fact I may only use it a couple times in a round. Once I stopped thinking I'm a pro that can putt for eagle on every par 5 and started playing to a distance has been the best stroke saver for me. I also find it interesting the hundreds of videos about drivers and shafts, but I don't see many pop up about putter fitting. You know, that club you scream at and costs you the most strokes in a round.

[@greasby1golf871]

Im playing the full spectrum, Black Driver Blue 3w Red 5w. They each give what i want for that club just never a straight answer to the question what should i

[@Kentsandrasparky]

Please please do a "should your wedge shaft match your irons shafts?"

[@sayork100]

Yes do this ^^^

[@SiLoMixMaster]

Stiff black shafts are often the most rewarding

[@erickbauer8888]

Amazing

[@scottbangerter7289]

after hitting the Ventus Red so well in the fairway wood, the next question is whether Mattie should be playing the red in his driver versus the blue.

[@socalgolf9978]

All the dudes on the Internet forums immediately proceed to buy the black TX flex no matter what the data says lol

[@mrdudelove1]

TSR 2+ Off the tee video pleasssssseeeeeee