Ty Cobb asked who was the number 1 baseball pitcher he ever faced then

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@RichardSmithII 3 ай бұрын

Wow! Hearing Grantland Rice and Ty Cobb is frankly quite amazing in 2024.

@barryosullivan8697 4 ай бұрын

Wow. Ty Cobb and even Grantland Rice. What a treat to listen in to this. Thanks for the post.

@joeross9478 4 ай бұрын

Ty Cobbs voice reminded me of Roy Clark. That was a very clear recording. Thanks for posting it.

@m.t.fisher4655 4 ай бұрын

He really does sound like Clark. Excellent point.

@WilliamHELLHASEYIS 2 ай бұрын

Walter Johnson!!! Ty Cobb was a fierce beast Thank you for this

@common12 4 ай бұрын

Cobb was very analytical, detailed and well prepared which I think would have been unique for the time. I understand his stellar performance better after listening to him. Besides his physical talent, his greatest talent was his head!

@derricktalbot8846 4 ай бұрын

Baseball is 90% mental and the other half is physical - Yogi Berra Can you imagine slow rolling a pitcher for 2 years just so you can use an idea at the most critical moment???? Cobb would have hit .500 if he had todays data and technology to analyze his own game, and the opponent. Also... glad I missed that that Pratt wrote.... some people's kids? Am I Right, Eh?!

@DexterHaven 4 ай бұрын

Yeah, he might be the source for the saying baseball is a "thinking man's game."

@Diogenes-ty9yy 4 ай бұрын

Amen! Cobb understood that baseball is a situational game and the situation changes with every pitch and he thought out what to do. I believe the old term, as people describe John McGraw's Giants, is "inside baseball." Each situation analyzed and the correct thing to do then decided. I wish I could get in a a time machine and go back and see some of these old time players and their games rather than seeing a succession of pitchers throwing as hard as they can and batters swinging for the fence each AB. (And, looking at the box scores in a 1908 newspaper, 9 inning games took no longer than about 90 minutes to play.)

@nedludd7622 4 ай бұрын

He was also a vehement racist, so much for his head.

@ScottPalmer-mp1we 4 ай бұрын

You put it very well. I had no idea how cerebral Cobb was with regard to the game of baseball and its tactics.

@scottabergermd 27 күн бұрын

Wow, the voice of the great Ty Cobb!!! Fabulous interview. One of the things that I am extremely happy has finally been set straight about Ty Cobb - is his prejudice against Black people. Not only was he NOT prejudiced against Black people, he helped those in the Negro leagues a lot, and there are many photos of him with some of the great black players in the Negro leagues. Everyone thought because he was from Georgia. He had to be prejudiced, but he was absolutely not and I am happy to report that as well.

@josephosheavideos3992 4 ай бұрын

Ty Cobb played in the Dead Ball Era when home runs were rare. That made his feat of winning that pennant-clinching game in 1907 even more remarkable (and might explain why he would remember it so clearly).

@jacobgreengas7121 3 ай бұрын

He played in the live ball era as well. In 1925 he told a reported that for the first time in his career he was going to try to hit home runs in order to show that the reason he didn't get them was because he chose not to, not because he couldn't. In the next game he went 6 for 6 with 3 home runs, and in the game after he went 3 for 6 with 2 home runs. He then returned to his normal style of play and ended up with a total of 12 home runs over the entire season.

@Steve-gx9ot 2 ай бұрын

Impretty sure thatCobb remembered many more plays than you canimagone. A REMARKABLE MEMORY and Every detail was Important to him to get an edge in future games. He was a great brain and played all out all the time! No friends on the field! EXTREMELY RARE HUMAN

@dogsoldiertoo1099 4 ай бұрын

It's a really strange feeling hearing the voice of a distant cousin talking from the past. My grandpa and Ty were born the same year. I have a couple of old pictures around somewhere of them hunting together. Grandpa died in 1956 when I was three and Ty died in 1961 when I was around nine. Unfortunately I never got to meet him.

@thareelhelloagain 3 ай бұрын

I spoke with Herschel Cobb, Ty's Grandson, on the phone once. An extremely nice man.

@steverenom.299 4 ай бұрын

What a fantastic post!! My guess was that he would say Walter Johnson and I loved the Hal Chase story. Thanks so much for posting this.

@jimmurphy834 Ай бұрын

Hustle, stretch the defense, steal bases, bunt the runner over, observe, react, set the table, bat .367 lifetime... Things that you will never see today.

@davidready6372 2 ай бұрын

Excellent interview....

@repentandknowjesus8674 3 ай бұрын

He understood that making the other team do things they don't normally do makes them prone to committing errors or rushing them. Like running from 1st to home on a single.

@RaysDad 4 ай бұрын

Watching old film it's clear that Walter Johnson would sling the ball with a rubber arm motion. Modern pitchers don't do that because it would cause injury. How Walter pitched all those years and stayed healthy is beyond me.

@patrickmorgan4006 4 ай бұрын

Funny that modern pitchers might think that Johnson's motion would cause injury, but so many of them end up getting Tommy John surgery. Maybe Johnson had the better way to do it?

@RaysDad 4 ай бұрын

@@patrickmorgan4006 Walter played 21 years and won 417 games, almost 20 games a year playing for the worst team in baseball (Washington Senators), so he must have been doing something right.

@patrickmorgan4006 4 ай бұрын

@@RaysDad That's always been my position. Yes, I know all about Johnson.

@jamesfisher5193 4 ай бұрын

Maybe because they didn’t baby him and take him out after five innings, so he was used to it

@NoellaScott 4 ай бұрын

I think the answer is to do what's best for you. No one can be Johnson, Koufax, Ryan, Maddux, etc. and far too often teams and coaches from childhood on up try to impart a standard set of ideals on a player without fine tuning everything to each individual.

@djacidkingcidguerreiro9780 4 ай бұрын

Greatest ball player ever.

@gregcable3250 3 ай бұрын

Sure, except for Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Ted Williams, Roberto Clemente, Mickey Mantle, Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Stan Musial and about 50 others I could list off the top of my head.

@sammyweed4771 2 ай бұрын

@@gregcable3250go back to sleep

@Petes-jb5ic 2 ай бұрын

@@gregcable3250Mays, Williams, Ruth, Gibson, then Cobb. Rest of you mentioned were never ahead of him.

@gregcable3250 2 ай бұрын

@@Petes-jb5ic Much better than Cobb. Mays, for example, was faster, stronger, a better fielder, great arm. Not even close. My grandfather saw Cobb play in his prime and thought he was great, but then saw these other guys and never thought so again. So was Aaron, Mantle Clemente, Gehrig. All better than Cobb. Not by a little bit. He was mostly a singles hitter, like Rose. In fact, Honus Wagner, from roughly his era, was better, too.

@Petes-jb5ic 2 ай бұрын

@@gregcable3250 lack of ball knowledge 😂 mostly singles hitter topped the league in every single aspect including homeruns (1907), hits over 700 doubles. Lol Honus Wagner must be one or two to mention over Cobb. I agree with that. But Clemente? Nah.

@phils5423 3 ай бұрын

That was fantastic thank you

@spy1965 Ай бұрын

I didn't recognize any of the 3 pitchers that gave him the most trouble

@donaldwycoff4154 3 ай бұрын

This is another ball player I've ready about over the years. This is the first time I heard his voice. Some how I think I expected a stronger accent, "Georgia Peach" and all. Given his age in the interview, he sounded good.

@Rangerfan62 4 ай бұрын

Regarding Walter Johnson. Ty would crowd the plate, knowing that Walter didn't want to hit him. Johnson would throw a couple wide ones. Then Ty would back up, and wait for the "Get me over" fastball and drill it.

@Petes-jb5ic 2 ай бұрын

He actually never drilled it. Cobb hit .230 verses Johnson. Sir Walter was just too fast for anyone to get it over.

@csnide6702 4 ай бұрын

Wadell could bring it....... Walter Johnson was revered by his peers but even he said "nobody throws harder than Smoky Joe Wood"........

@Dac54 4 ай бұрын

For all of his greatness, Ty Cobb never played on a World Series winner. The Detroit Tigers did make the World Series three consecutive seasons, 1907-1909, but lost all three. As for Walter Johnson, it took until late in his career for the Washington Senators to become good enough to contend for and win AL pennants. Thus, he played only on one World Series winner, as the Senators won the Series in seven games over the NY Giants in one of the best World Series ever played. He would appear in one more World Series the following season, losing in seven games despite being up 3-1 in the Series to the Pittsburgh Pirates. It goes to show how fleeting championships are in professional sports.

@Petes-jb5ic 2 ай бұрын

Johnson might've won 2, if not for countless mistakes made by his teammates in game 7. Instead of firing his teammates, Johnson gave a warmthful hugs.

@traviesoarcefan3063 2 ай бұрын

The Pittsburgh Pirates have won five World Series Championships and all five went seven games. Being a Pirates' fan takes years off of your life but sometimes it's worth it! 🏆1909🏆1925🏆1960🏆1971🏆1979. Beat 'Em Bucs!!!!

@michaela.sugarman5044 Ай бұрын

@@Petes-jb5ic Johnson didn't get the call on Cuyler in game 7 in pouring rain, but always said the pitch was perfect and he had him struck out. Pittsburgh's owner was ready to call the game and give the Senators the championship because of the rain but Washington owner insisted they keep playing

@us-Bahn 4 ай бұрын

Ty. My god.

@ProudGoyim666 2 ай бұрын

George Herman Ruth and Tyrus Raymond Cobb = Two Best Players Of All-Time, next to John Wagner.

@ggeorge4144 4 ай бұрын

In many ways the greatest ballplayer ever. He played when it took a lot of thought, the games were close because the home run was very difficult to achieve. Base stealing, bunting anything to move a base runner into scoring position. The home run and lively ball ruined baseball. It no longer was a game of thinking, bunting, advancing a man to third, it was a game for sluggers. Scores went from an average of 2-3 runs per side to teams slaughtering others by 8 or 10 runs. It drew the crowds and destroyed the game.

@WernerVonWeener 4 ай бұрын

yup

@RoofDoctorsJoanne 4 ай бұрын

@@WernerVonWeenerreally? In 1920?

@Diogenes-ty9yy 4 ай бұрын

To combat the HR, I remember the '50s and '60s White Sox management used to put the new baseballs in a freezer to deaden them before the Yankees came to town. The Sox, not scoring many runs, tried to prevent them from scoring a lot, too.

@cahg3871 4 ай бұрын

I have always been a fan of manufacturing runs-base stealing,bunting etc.Too often teams rely on the homerun instead of fundamentals.

@RoofDoctorsJoanne 4 ай бұрын

@@cahg3871 In the 1970's & 80's astro turf brought that type game back. Speed etc. It was a better game than this crap. Baseball today is like watching a beer softball game.

@BravesFan30281 2 ай бұрын

1:11 The game he is describing occurred on September 30, 1907. The game ended in a 9-9 tie after 17 innings due to darkness.

@fenwaypark1725 4 ай бұрын

Look up an article from a journalist who was with Ted Williams and they met Ty at a seedy motel and tied one on and talked hitting. I’ve got the article

@joemarshall4226 Ай бұрын

Willie McCovey said that he would purposely look bad striking out ina situation where his team was way ahead or way behind. Then when a big situation occurred against the same pitcher, he would sit on the pitch that he struck out on, knowing the pitcher would try to use it again. He had the Nationa League record for grand slams for a long time, so I guess it worked. He was known, like Big Papi, as a great clutch hitter.

@roguebossa 2 ай бұрын

This is pretty great

@sailordude2094 4 ай бұрын

Anyone else wondering why it isn't Tommy Lee Jones voice? lol. Great channel, thanks!

@oldcremona 3 ай бұрын

Hopefully by now everyone realizes that the movie Cobb was based on books by Al Stump which presented a thoroughly false portrait of Ty and have been utterly discredited.

@osphranterrufus 3 ай бұрын

Where do you find these recordings?

@Dumballa 4 ай бұрын

Tyrus Raymond Cobb

@danielcunningham9771 2 ай бұрын

Ty Cobb stands alone alone as the greatest MLB player that ever lived for one reason. I knew the man. Ty simply could not conceive of trying/competing any less than the best that a baseball player could envision given any opportunity. Say what you will...

@jayare2620 3 ай бұрын

The degree of thought that baseball players put into the game is levels beyond that is used in today's game.

@jimralston4789 3 ай бұрын

BS. These guys nowadays scout every single detail about the opponent with libraries of data and analytics and that is the stuff they go over before every game.

@USMCArchAngel03 2 ай бұрын

@@jimralston4789 I think the truth is everybody involved in baseball has always thought about baseball all the time. But you're right, I've watched a few "day in the life" videos of young pro baseball players. There's so much information coming at the modern player it's almost paralyzing. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that right now somewhere there's some 20 year old trying to remember what the pitcher he is facing usually throws after after a low and outside fastball on Tuesdays in August when it's below 85 degrees.

@joeswampdawghenry 2 ай бұрын

Yeah... Jus look at the yankees.. Lol

@Boris_Chang 3 ай бұрын

His favorite guitarist was NOT Jimi Hendrix.

@bobhunton8775 4 ай бұрын

The best pitchers he faced: Mogridge (George), Carl Weilman, and who? Carter? I wonder who that was?

@SelectCircle 3 ай бұрын

I asked Bing Copilot who this Carter was and it don't even know.

@jhbombb 3 ай бұрын

I'm guessing he misspoke and meant to say Harper. Harry Harper

@SelectCircle 3 ай бұрын

@@jhbombb YOU are next-gen AI. Seriously - AI needs to consider surname assonance. BUT Copilot tells me Cobb batted .364 against Harper. So ... he might not exactly have had Cobb's number. 8 D

@jhbombb 3 ай бұрын

@SelectCircle Put in a good word for me with Microsoft? :) Dug a bit deeper: the lefty who REALLY had Cobb's number was Bill Bayne, against whom he batted .179 BA in 43 plate appearances. Bayne otherwise finished his career with a losing record and 4.84 ERA

@wi54725 3 ай бұрын

General Crowder was a right-handed pitcher that Cobb didn't have great stats facing. Ensign Cottrell was a lefty, and Cobb went 0-4 against him, which I don't believe could make him the one. My guess would be another lefty, Ray Collins. When Cobb hit .409 in 1912, he went 4-20 against Collins.

@stocksgoupward5922 4 ай бұрын

These old interviews are great. I heard one recently with Lou Gehrig. now Cobb talking about a 17 inning game makes me wonder what he would think about the Ghost runner on 2nd base in the 10 inning? now it started during Covid. and we were just glad they were playing baseball because the NCAA tournament was cancelled. but here we are 4 years later and its still there. and its pathetic. now ok in the 13 or 14 inning you want to do that? but the 10th inning? the reason its still there does anyone know the reason? The reason its still there is NO ONE GETS PAID FOR Extra innings so they want the games over. This is a pathetic reason and its high school girls softball who started this. I am embarrassed that this is the reason and that this is how MLB is now.

@ducttape82 4 ай бұрын

It's largely because if teams need to travel after the game they don't want to have a game go 15 innings and mess up logistice getting to the next city they have to play in, possibly the next night. Likewise, fans who paid for tickets and need to get up for work the following morning don't want to stay for a marathon that goes until midnight either. Both teams get a runner on second, it's fair for both. I have no issue with the change.

@charlesnye1736 4 ай бұрын

Sounds like he´s reading the answers off a paper.

@fepatton 3 ай бұрын

Pretty sure he is. I’m thinking it’s to make sure he doesn’t ramble or say anything that will get the broadcaster in trouble with the censors. My guess is they they asked him the questions, then wrote down and cleaned up the answers. I’d love to know if someone can confirm it.

@ralphromeo7066 3 ай бұрын

Tommy Lee Jones had it half right. Ty was far more erudite.

@DexterHaven 4 ай бұрын

Wow, he didn't say that the great CHRISTY MATHEWSON was a tough pitcher to hit. He won 373 games. He led the Giants to their first World Series championship in franchise history in the 1905 World Series by pitching a single World Series record three shutouts. He also holds the record for career shutouts in the World Series, with four.

@lawhamel66 4 ай бұрын

Cobb likely never faced Mathewson

@Ken4Pyro 4 ай бұрын

It would have been relatively impossible for Cobb to have ever faced Matthewson, as they played in completely different leagues. Cobb is also widely quoted as saying the only thing he was ever afraid of was Walter Johnson on a cloudy day.

@douglassun8456 4 ай бұрын

No interleague play back then, and I can't recall if the A's ever faced the Giants in the World Series. He faced Johnson multiple times a season.

@douglassun8456 4 ай бұрын

@@Ken4Pyro Interesting. So weather affected visibility that much.

@Ken4Pyro 4 ай бұрын

@@douglassun8456 I believe Cobb was making the point that Johnson threw quite hard, and not seeing the coming ball clearly was dangerous.

@joemarshall4226 Ай бұрын

Foist means first

@GreggRobinson-rb3xy 3 ай бұрын

Pitching coaches should take note: pitchers had rubber arms back then because they threw all the time from when they were kids, not every third or fourth day. The ball was heavier back then also. They were men then, not spoiled and pampered kids.

@Cujobob 2 ай бұрын

The mound was significantly higher which reduced the strain on the arm because they were essentially throwing downhill. This culture war nonsense is never accurate, do better.

@wolflover789 2 ай бұрын

Agreed that men were tougher back then. 100%. Not because of some DNA difference, but because society was tougher in general and life harder. Most of those guys grew up hard.

@poopshoes7579 2 ай бұрын

@@Cujobobthe mound also varied by each park

@mikepants35 Ай бұрын

They literally got to play baseball and have fun because the generation before them fought a civil war.

@basehead617 3 ай бұрын

it's weird, I'm sure it's just their style of talking but it sounds like both of them are reading a (poorly written) script and acting it badly.. very odd

@somerandomguy5977 3 ай бұрын

I'm surprised you can type with how young you are.

@gerardovaldezjr.7532 3 ай бұрын

@@somerandomguy5977 🤣

@SelectCircle 3 ай бұрын

It sounds like a Kamala Harris press conference.

@barrygordon5323 2 ай бұрын

Number 1,,,367 lifetime batting average,,,,,he hit 420 at a time when batting averages were know higher then now ... Over 4000 hits...896 stolen bases ...what else needs to be said.

@allenkrueger8352 2 ай бұрын

Probably the biggest mislabeled sport personality ever.

@DonTrump-sv1si 4 ай бұрын

Tyrus was and is lied about a lot

@SelectCircle 3 ай бұрын

Yeah - his bad rep was all a vast conspiracy that everybody was in on. Worst hoax since a round Earth.

@keithmotsinger918 4 ай бұрын

Nice , and it gets purty tiresome about Cobb ,racist,bigot, Most players who played with him said "he was rough shure , but fair " Southern peckerwood bias . Grandland Rice nice surprise inthis . THKS , p.s Honus Wagner and Tyrus Cobb with the Babe Ruth were the best.

@markreetz1001 2 ай бұрын

The story of Cobb being a bigot were made up by a biographer that didn't like Cobb.

@MrSpuzzz 4 ай бұрын

These old interviews sound so scripted. Maybe the interviewer gave him the questions ahead of time and he spent time writing down a thoughtful response.

@douglassun8456 4 ай бұрын

I've noticed that as well. I suspect that the novelty of recording technology had a lot to do with it and the fact that do-overs were, relatively speaking, a pain. I wouldn't be surprised if more preparation was involved, and people just approached it differently - more like a presentation than a conversation.

@ZephaniahL 2 ай бұрын

This does, but not all of them.